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    ๐Ÿ“ Kayak
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Time for a new scratch built boat.

    A couple of years ago I built 'Scullduggery' a scratch built rowing boat manned by Bionic Bill and Ben.



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    https://www.fyneboatkits.co.uk/
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kayak
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท stotty1111 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Yes it is, with just forward reverse by paddle action, -- what else would you expect for something costing ยฃ15(almost 20 yrs ago)?
    Keeps kids well occupied at model shows!
    The hull is sealed, by car tape along the hull and deck line, and the paddle action is sealed by a latex piece moulded using the wooden mould. There is a little water ingress via the rudder tube, normally coated with vaseline!
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    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Stotty,

    Thanks for posting the video clip. Interesting to see how it works. Steering looks to be controlled by a rudder. I hope to be able to steer with the paddle although I am planning to include a rudder just in case

    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kayak
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง philcaretaker ( Commodore)
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    Great Video clip !!๐Ÿ‘
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kayak
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท stotty1111 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    video


    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kayak
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง philcaretaker ( Commodore)
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    Bring it on Graham !!! I am looking forward to following the progress ! ๐Ÿ˜Žโ›ต
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kayak
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท stotty1111 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    some photos, camera battery needs charging

    video mounting, same as with photos(there is a first time for everything, least that's my excuse!! :-()
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kayak
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท stotty1111 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Basically a motor /g/box with 2 x cranks at 180', 2 x crankshafts run to 2 x fixed points, the cranks are slotted so that they can slide back/forward etc. There are also 2 x brackets mounted on the top edges of the crank on these flexible u's the paddle rests in these with 2 x small slots When te motor runs the paddle supports describe an oval movement as do the paddles to simulate real paddles.
    A bit long winded, photos to come and possibly a video, I am currently repairing the paddle supports, broken in transit.
    More later!
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kayak
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Stotty,

    I donโ€™t know what the limits are but I have loaded 10 or more at a time. I try to keep each photo to around 100kb in size. They look fine at that size, and donโ€™t take up too much space on the server.

    It would be great to see some photos of the mechanism in your kayak.

    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kayak
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท stotty1111 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    So, how many photos can i mount at 1 time and what size for the images ie mbs
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kayak
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท stotty1111 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    I have a child's toy kayak which is r/c, it was aimed at bath time use. Cost about ยฃ15 from Amazon!
    I have had it for approaching 20 yrs, and it has been regularly used at model exhibitions where small man made ponds were available.
    It is about 18" long, I have photos somewhere of the mechanism, time allowing in the near future i will try to find them!
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    ๐Ÿ“ Mechanism
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    The aim is to achieve movement of the paddler that is as realistic as possible. Steering should also be by means of the paddle, rather than solely relying on a separate rudder.

    The rowing boat uses simple mechanics with software programmed into a microchip to achieve the required motion. That way the mechanics are easier to build, and adjustments to the movements can mostly be made by editing the software. The same approach is planned for the kayak.

    Two small stepper motors were purchased and a test rig assembled. The two motors can be seen, back to back in the first photo. They each have a brass disk mounted on the output shaft. Pushrods link the disks to the paddle via fixed pivots. The second photo shows the overall arrangement and the third gives an idea of how it will fit into the kayak with a cardboard template showing the internal cross section.

    The software controls and syncronises the two stepper motors allowing the paddler to paddle forwards, backwards or to use just one blade in the water to steer the craft. A short video showing paddling forwards and backwards:



    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    Soโ€ฆ.veryโ€ฆ.COOL!!! Nice job of engineering!!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks Gary,

    The head was being adapted When I filmed that. It will be attached to a servo in the body. That way, not only will he be able to see where he is going, he will also be able to look where he is going. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง GaryLC ( Captain)
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    I really very much admire your patience and ability to fathom out the exact movement you are looking for, and not for the faint-hearted like myself. It seems to be going well in these early trials and looks very promising. As my electronic skill is zilch I am not in a position to offer advice or anything else, mind I am very interested in your project so please keep us all informed of your progress on this venture. (Please refit his head so he can see where he is going?) Regards,Gary.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks everyone for the kind comments.

    It was interesting to put together, but somehow it just didnโ€™t feel right so I decided to explore an alternative approach..

    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Brightwork ( Captain)
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    Just genius!!
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ stevedownunder ( Captain)
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    Fantastic work Graham, even if it didn't work to your expectations.

    It is quite a challenge I am guessing, to mimic a person paddling.

    Looking forward to seeing version no2.

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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    You never cease to amaze Graham, Oh to have your electronic knowledge along with your mechanical ability its truly a fantastic combination, I look forward to version 2
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง robbob ( Admiral)
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    What you have done in your first attempt is possibly way beyond what most, if not all, of us could have hoped to achieve. That you are re-visiting the project would imply that you may have surmounted the initial problems.๐Ÿ˜€
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Rob,

    Yes, I suppose it was a success in demonstrating that it didnโ€™t work!๐Ÿค”

    I should explain that Iโ€™m in โ€˜catch upโ€™ mode with this blog as Iโ€™ve been working on this for almost a year. I scrapped the mechanism last December and the project then stalled until recently.

    Havenโ€™t given up though๐Ÿคž

    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Graham.
    "Back to the drawing board"....yes perhaps.
    Still I would regard this as a successful 'proof of concept' that just requires a re-think on more suitable hardware to achieve the desired action.
    Good work nevertheless.๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜€
    Rob.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    Fantastic

    Just love it !
    ๐Ÿ“ Mechanism Mk 2
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    The project stalled for several months while I got on with the rest of my life! However I did find a short video clip on YouTube which looked promising so I had a go at building a replica.

    A small geared motor at the left rotates a brass disk to which are attached two pushrods. The brass plate in the middle pivots on a screw. The other end of the plate will connect to a servo to move the plate from side to side. This movement of the plate will provide steering as it will tilt the vertical shaft on which the paddle is mounted.

    A short video clip to show it in operation:


    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 2
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Ref Name,
    No contest! Continuing the 'Flower Pot Men' theme it has to be "(Little) Weed" ๐Ÿ˜
    'Loblob' job on the mechanism btw Graham๐Ÿ‘
    I was wondering; have you made Bill and Ben their 'Flobberpops' yet? ๐Ÿ˜‚
    No? 'FLOBABDOB'๐Ÿ˜ 
    "Babap ickle Weed"
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 2
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks Gary,

    Kev is a possibility, together with Charlie as suggested by Rob.

    Plenty of time yet to decide on a name as the build has hardly started.

    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 2
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง GaryLC ( Captain)
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    Yes, Kayak Kevin sounds about right, and Kev for the shortened version. I think your mark 2 version is bordering on genius, all those different movements from one servo motor, I wouldn't have believed that was possible. Please keep up the good work on this very interesting project of yours. Regards, Gary.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 2
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง robbob ( Admiral)
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    Charlie ?
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 2
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Phil,

    I havenโ€™t come up with a name for the rower yet. Any suggestions anyone?

    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 2
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Stephen,

    Yes, I think it does look promising. A much simpler approach than the stepper motor mechanism, but it will depend on getting all the linkages to right length.

    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 2
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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    Excellent Engineering.
    Trev
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 2
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง philcaretaker ( Commodore)
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    Awesome Graham !
    What will you call kayak man ????
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 2
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ stevedownunder ( Captain)
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    Great work Graham,
    Looks very promising in my opinion.

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
    ๐Ÿ“ Mechanism Mk 3
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Before going any further, I needed to check that the mechanism will fit inside the proposed kayak as there isn't a lot of room. A test rig was set up by cutting cardboard frames with holes representing the internal size of the hull. This jig only represents the middle section of the kayak. A cardboard template to represent the cockpit was added as everything will have to be installed through the cockpit hole in the hull.

    The Mk 2 mechanism just fitted in the planned position, but could not be fitted into that position through the cockpit. Based on the experience testing the Mk 2 I also had concerns that the geared motor I was using had limited torque and may prove to be inadequate to drive the craft. Hence, I decided to build the Mk 3 mechanism which is a rebuild of Mk2 with a different drive motor..

    The geared motor was replaced with a metal geared servo. The servo was dismantled and the electronics removed. Wires were added to the motor so that it could be connected to a standard ESC. A metal pin fitted to the final gear was also removed to enable continuous rotation.

    The Mk2 mechanism was rebuilt onto both sides of a plywood panel. Most of the mechanism was reused, although some parts were remade (several times!). The steering servo was also mounted onto the panel (a couple of times).

    This new mechanism fits into the test rig through the cockpit.

    Wanting to keep the total weight down the rower underwent some drastic surgery. Action man figures are made from thick plastic so that they are very durable, but it also makes them relatively heavy. I found that the joints on the original arms were quite stiff, even after surgery, so the arms have been replaced with a couple of linked springs. A mini servo mounted in the 'abdomen' is linked to the head with a flexible drive shaft. This will enable the paddler to look where he is going! Once he has his waterproof on, he looks OK to me. The arms of his waterproof will be lightly stuffed with soft toy polyester stuffing to bulk them out a little.

    A short video showing it in operation driven from an ESC which gives forward and backward paddling:


    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 3
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi JB,

    Canโ€™t have the paddler eating too much honey, Iโ€™ve got to keep the total weight down. Heโ€™s already undergone some drastic weight reduction surgery ๐Ÿ˜‚

    Graham93
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    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Amazing and ingenious bit of mechanization, (I think it's all the honey he's been eating)๐Ÿ˜‚

    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 3
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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    Speechless.๐Ÿค”
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 3
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks everyone for the comments and encouragement. Iโ€™m just back from a weekend away attending my granddaughterโ€™s third birthday ๐ŸŽ‚.

    Itโ€™s taken several weeks of making and remaking parts of the mechanism to get to this stage. Iโ€™ve just realised that the video clip is of an interim version without all the changes. Iโ€™ll make another video and post it later this week.

    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 3
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ Julio ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Hi, Graham:
    Is amazing!!
    It is amazing to see the operation of this mechanism!!
    Thanks for sharing it with us
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 3
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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    Truly Amazing, Graham!!!
    Thanks for Sharing๐Ÿ‘
    Trev
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 3
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ River Rat ( Captain)
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    Wow! Just Wow! You are an Amazing man! Keep up the great work. Can't wait to see it underway. Thanks Dave
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    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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    Fantastic Graham, Iโ€™m on holiday at the moment so canโ€™t download the video but Iโ€™ll comment further on my return
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    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง GaryLC ( Captain)
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    Absolutely love this project along with the thought and sheer determination that went into it. I think your achievement is incredible bordering on genius. Your oarsman (Kev the kayak) has a very determined look about him and determination is what it is all about. Keep up the good work as a very interesting project if ever there was. Regards, Gary.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 3
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ stevedownunder ( Captain)
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    Fantastic work Graham,

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 3
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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    Superb Graham, as usual.
    How aboutโ€™ The bees kneesโ€™ for the name.๐Ÿ˜ฌ
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    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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    It's amazing, I could do with your mechanical genius in full size to keep me moving.
    Well done shipmate, cheers Colin.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 3
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง philcaretaker ( Commodore)
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    Love it ,
    Love it ,
    Love it ! ๐ŸคŸ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    Brilliant Graham !!
    ๐Ÿ“ Controls
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    I've ended up with four controls for the kayak:
    1. Paddling - speed and fwd/reverse
    2. Steering - tilting the paddle to port or starboard
    3. Rudder - traditional rudder on the stern of the kayak
    4. Paddler head turning - so he can see where he is going!

    These could simply be allocated to separate channels on the transmitter with the paddling speed and head turning on the left stick, and the steering/rudder on the right stick. However, I like to add custom electronics to my builds where this helps with the realism of the model and/or it makes it easier to control.

    The first photo shows a block diagram of the controller. A single connection from the receiver carries all the channels received from the transmitter. The controller then processes these and feeds out separate signals to the ESC and the three servos. With suitable software programmed into to PIC microchip the controller will provide the following functions:

    1. Pulse stretching for the head turning servo to give more rotation than the standard 90 degree servo output.
    2. Driving both the steering and rudder servos from a single Tx channel as this is more logical. The range of movement of each servo can be independently set as they need to be different.
    3. When stopping, automatically position the paddle horizontal with the blades out of the water. Tricky to achieve this manually from the Tx.
    4. When turning, the paddle is tilted to one side, such that one blade is in use, and the other is held clear of the water. When the turn request from the Tx reaches maximum turn, the paddle stops moving and switches sides to place the opposite blade in the water thus acting as a pivot point for turning.
    5. Using the rudder to compensate for the turning effect of the paddle stroke. On each stroke of the paddle, the kayak will tend to turn away from the stroke. On full sized kayaks, it is normal to use the rudder to correct for this turning movement on each stroke.

    A lash up of the controller was put together to test the circuit and for initial software development. Once this was working, it was rebuilt in its final form and fitted into an ABS enclosure.

    To sense the position of the drive motor (necessary for functions 3, 4 and 5 above) a small magnet is fitted to the brass disk on the drive motor shaft and two Hall effect magnetic sensors are mounted either side of the drive motor. These provide the controller with reference points for the paddle position.

    The video shows the operation of different functions of the controller.



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    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Graham.
    A superb example of electro/mechanical design and prototyping. This project will be every bit as good a 'Bill & Ben' if not better. Great work!
    Rob.
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    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Fleet,

    โ€œ Why is Kayak Ken so snooty?โ€ - I have plans to improve his appearance..... all will be revealed. That is once Iโ€™ve made the changes ๐Ÿ˜
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Controls
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Michael,

    Like the comments ๐Ÿ˜†. The fancy electronics are optional and Iโ€™m sure you would make a better job of the mechanicals than I have.

    โ€œCan I build you one?โ€ - I donโ€™t like making more than one of anything now Iโ€™m retired, besides, it would be much more interesting to build your own rather than have someone else do it for you.๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ
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    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Michael,
    It's quite simple really๐Ÿ˜‰
    Pic 2 is spaghetti junction on toast,
    Pic 3 is the pizza version for mass production,
    (The special rectangular black olives can be clearly seen, not my taste๐Ÿ˜)
    Pic 4 is the Fast Food version for microwave cooking ๐Ÿ˜‹
    Pic 5 shows the debugger for the software. Anything with 3 to 6 legs that comes along will be thrown overboard, or eaten to fuel the on-board methane gas generator. Thus trickle charging the main power system.
    Pic 6 shows the hall (proximity) switch, you know, the one that switches the light on ๐Ÿ’ก when you stagger down the stairs on a winter's morn. โ„๏ธ
    Alles klar Herr Kommissar? ๐Ÿ˜‰
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    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ stevedownunder ( Captain)
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    Fantastic Graham,
    I wish I had the skill and knowledge to build somethin like that.

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
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    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Once again 'supercalifragilisticexpialidocious' Graham๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ‘
    a real 'head turner'.
    Just one question!.
    Why is Kayak Ken so snooty?
    He's always looking down his nose, to see where he's going, and at we mere vassals of course!๐Ÿ˜Œ๐Ÿ˜
    (I called him Ken cos Kevin always makes me think of the precocious kid in 'Kevin Alone At Home'๐Ÿ™„)
    ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Controls
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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    Hi Graham again pure alchemy.
    Pictures -
    1 - I understand diagram๐Ÿ‘
    2 - is a total brain block๐Ÿค”
    3 - as 2 above๐Ÿค”
    4 - yes, thats a plastic box ๐Ÿ‘
    5 - yes, plywood with electronic bits ๐Ÿ‘
    6 - switch and magnet I understand ๐Ÿ‘
    7 - Yes - that's a video that blows your mind๐Ÿคฃ
    8 - can you build me one?
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Controls
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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    Pure Genius, Graham๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
    Trev
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Controls
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง philcaretaker ( Commodore)
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    Probability, suitability, feasibility all seem ticked now Graham, ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘
    We all will be watching this space !!!!?!
    Well done !!๐Ÿคž
    ๐Ÿ“ Lofting
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Having gained enough confidence that the drive mechanism has a fair chance of working, it's time to start the build. The blog posts so far have been catching up with a build that started almost a year ago. The remainder of this blog will be close to real-time.

    The book by Nick Schade contains 'tables of offsets' for three different kayaks. The book also describes in detail how to use these tables to draw plans. This is new to me and I struggled with understanding the tables and the terminology, but worked it out eventually with the guidance from the book.

    The nice thing about having a plan made up of lots of numbers in a table (of offsets) is that it is relatively easy to scale the dimensions to any desired size. This can be done manually but as there are several hundred figures to be scaled, I opted to use a spreadsheet.

    All the numbers were typed into a spreadsheet and then scaled and converted from imperial to metric using a simple formula. The graph function of the spreadsheet was then used to draw a half profile of each form. These graphs were copied and pasted into Photoshop. In Photoshop, each half profile was mirrored to produce a full profile for each of the 16 forms.

    With the plans drawn, at last it is time to start making sawdust ๐Ÿ‘

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lofting
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ stevedownunder ( Captain)
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    Great work Graham,
    I like the idea of using a spread sheet, I will try to remember that one.

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lofting
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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    WELL, DONE, Graham๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
    I love your thought process
    Trev
    ๐Ÿ“ Formwork
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    The kayak will be built from wood strips glued together over a temporary formwork.

    Templates for each of the 16 forms plus two endforms were printed, glued to a sheet of 3mm hardboard and then cut out. 20mm square holes were cut into each of the forms to allow them to be threaded and spaced out on a 'strongback'. The strongback is a 20mm square aluminium tube. Sighting along the forms showed any which were not quite in line. These were adjusted until the forms sighted true. The end forms are threaded into the ends of the tubs and are screwed in place. The forms are spaced apart with plywood spacers. An adjustable spacer tightened with wedges ensures that everything is rigidly held in place. Finally, the edges of the forms were wrapped with plumbers PTFE joint tape to ensure that when the planks are glued together, they will not also be glued to the formwork.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Formwork
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ stevedownunder ( Captain)
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    Thanks for clarifying that Graham,

    Yeah what could go wrong....

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Formwork
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Stephen,

    The hull will be made in two halves over the formwork. These will then be separated to allow removal of the formers and strongback before gluing the two halves together. Sounds simple enough, I just hope it works out that way! Plenty of opportunity for this to go wrong ๐Ÿค—

    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Formwork
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi JB,

    The deck will be strip planked before everything is fitted in. I havenโ€™t quite worked out all the details of how Iโ€™m going to do that๐Ÿค”

    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Formwork
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ stevedownunder ( Captain)
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    Hi Graham,
    Great progress.
    This maybe a silly question, but how are you going to remove the formers and strongback?

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Formwork
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Looks interesting Graham, - is the deck going to be strips or sheeted once everything is in ?

    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Formwork
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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    Anxiously anticipating the next steps, Graham.
    Great description of the work done.๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
    Trev
    ๐Ÿ“ Milling the strips
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Western Red Cedar is traditionally used for strip built kayaks as it is strong, durable, flexible and lightweight. The strips used on full sized kayaks are typically 22mm x 7mm. Scaling this down to model size results in a size of 4mm x 1.6mm.

    I couldn't find a source of ready made cedar strips but a few years ago I made a pair of garage doors from cedar and had saved a few offcuts. These are around 1m long, 95mm wide and 15mm thick. Ideal for cutting into strips.

    Two boards of different colour were selected and cut on the bandsaw into pieces measuring 15 mm x 5 mm. These were then sanded to 4mm thick using a home made thickness sander. The thicknessed pieces were then cut into strips measuring 4mm x 2mm and again sanded to a finished size of around 4mm x 1.7mm

    The two boards yielded 100+ strips in two different colours which should be plenty for the hull. I still have several more boards left over from the garage doors so I can make more strips if I need - or perhaps another boat! ๐Ÿ‘

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Milling the strips
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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    I'm with you, Graham.
    I have a problem parting with anything, as I know it will come in handy later.
    Trev
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Milling the strips
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Michael,

    I did think about using a power plane, but I was concerned that it might grab and shred thin strips. Iโ€™ve managed to sand some strips down to just 0.8mm thickness.

    I was always told โ€œwaste not, want notโ€ by my Lancashire born Dad. Perhaps thatโ€™s why I have two sheds full of bits and pieces that may come in useful one day, including many bits I inherited from him ๐Ÿค”
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Milling the strips
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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    Hi Graham I do a similar thing but using an old Black & Decker electric plane I built a spring mechanism to keep the strips against the fence and pushed down on the blades, so first I circular saw to near finished size then they are put through the planer
    "Yorkshire thrift"
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Milling the strips
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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    Great, Thanks for sharing, Graham
    Trev
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Milling the strips
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks everyone, glad you are enjoying the blog.

    I found a plan on-line for the sander. It's basically a rotating drum wound with abrasive. The table below the drum is adjustable to set the thickness using the screwed rod. It's important to have dust extraction with a sander like this, especially when sanding cedar.

    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Milling the strips
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ River Rat ( Captain)
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    If you cant find it make it. I like your style. Still amazing me with your talent!
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Milling the strips
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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    Me Too, Colin
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Milling the strips
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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    Spot on Graham.๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
    I would be very interested in more info on your thickness planer.
    Trev
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Milling the strips
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Graham I am loving this blog, your pictures along with the detailed description is enthralling.
    Can you tell us how your sanding thicknesser works ,I'm intrigued.
    Keep it coming shipmate, cheers Colin.
    ๐Ÿ“ Stripping the hull
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    The first strips to be fitted run along the shearlines either side of the hull. Temporary short sticks were clamped onto each form to position the top edge of the first strips along the shearline. The position and angle of these sticks was adjusted while sighting along the length of the formwork to ensure that the first strip would lay fair along the length. The top edge of the strip was beveled to match the angle of the temporary sticks. Once happy with everything, the strip was glued to the forms using hot melt glue. I really dislike using this glue, as I find it very messy, and not very good at sticking anything, but in this case I need a temporary fix so hot glue works OK.

    Once the first sheer strip was in place, the process was repeated for the other side of the hull. Great care was taken to ensure that the two strips were symmetrical on the formwork, with lots of sighting and measuring.

    With the first two strips in place, it was then simply a case of adding more strips alternately on each side of the formwork. Each strip had its edge chamfered where necessary to fit with the previous strip. The strips are glued edge to edge with the previous strip using a waterproof white glue. While the glue dries, each strip is held in place with notched plywood pieces clamped to the forms. The PTFE tape wrapped round the forms should ensure that the strips are not glued to the formwork ๐Ÿคž.

    A small section of the hardboard endforms was removed and replaced with a shaped cedar stem to which the strips are glued.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Stripping the hull
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    When I saw the title 'Stripping the hull' in my mailbox my first thought was,
    Oh dear summat's gone south and had to be removedโ˜น๏ธ, the man is human after all.
    But no! Of course not. On opening the post I discovered that it is another lesson in mini-master carpentry - bordering on marquetry. Brilliant stuff with lotsa food for thought.
    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Stripping the hull
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง GaryLC ( Captain)
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    Hi Graham, a very interesting project from day one, and the excitement builds as your project progresses, especially now that we can see the Kayak taking shape before our eyes. Definitely, some rather cunning and devious thinking on the problem-solving front, mind, well worth all the effort as the end result is bordering on absolutely brilliant, a master class in robotics and invention. Keep up the good work on this mind-boggling project. Regards, Gary.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Stripping the hull
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Brightwork ( Captain)
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    You can never have to many clamps!!
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Stripping the hull
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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    Coming on really well, I do like to repurpose timber its so satisfying to make something out of nothing
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Stripping the hull
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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    Looks Good, you seem to have it well under control, Graham๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
    I have the same problem with hot melt, the strings go everywhere.
    Trev
    ๐Ÿ“ Stripping the bottom
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    With the sides of the hull completed, I was able to add two strips along the length of the keel. The spaces either side of the keel were then filled with strips, working from alternate sides for each new strip.

    With the hull strips all completed, it's nice to see the slender form of the hull emerging.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Stripping the bottom
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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    Great job of Planking, Graham๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
    Very symmetrical
    Trev
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Stripping the bottom
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง GaryLC ( Captain)
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    Great bit of planking and looks extremely streamlined, it will go through the water like a knife through butter. Great stuff and brilliant when a plan comes together.
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