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2 years ago by ๐ซ๐ท stotty1111 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Yes it is, with just forward reverse by paddle action, -- what else would you expect for something costing ยฃ15(almost 20 yrs ago)?
Keeps kids well occupied at model shows! The hull is sealed, by car tape along the hull and deck line, and the paddle action is sealed by a latex piece moulded using the wooden mould. There is a little water ingress via the rudder tube, normally coated with vaseline! ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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Stotty,
Thanks for posting the video clip. Interesting to see how it works. Steering looks to be controlled by a rudder. I hope to be able to steer with the paddle although I am planning to include a rudder just in case Graham93 ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง philcaretaker ( Commodore)
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Great Video clip !!๐
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๐ฌ Re: Kayak
2 years ago by ๐ซ๐ท stotty1111 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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๐ฌ Re: Kayak
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง philcaretaker ( Commodore)
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Bring it on Graham !!! I am looking forward to following the progress ! ๐โต
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๐ฌ Re: Kayak
2 years ago by ๐ซ๐ท stotty1111 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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2 years ago by ๐ซ๐ท stotty1111 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Basically a motor /g/box with 2 x cranks at 180', 2 x crankshafts run to 2 x fixed points, the cranks are slotted so that they can slide back/forward etc. There are also 2 x brackets mounted on the top edges of the crank on these flexible u's the paddle rests in these with 2 x small slots When te motor runs the paddle supports describe an oval movement as do the paddles to simulate real paddles.
A bit long winded, photos to come and possibly a video, I am currently repairing the paddle supports, broken in transit. More later! ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Kayak
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Stotty,
I donโt know what the limits are but I have loaded 10 or more at a time. I try to keep each photo to around 100kb in size. They look fine at that size, and donโt take up too much space on the server. It would be great to see some photos of the mechanism in your kayak. Graham93 ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Kayak
2 years ago by ๐ซ๐ท stotty1111 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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So, how many photos can i mount at 1 time and what size for the images ie mbs
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๐ฌ Re: Kayak
2 years ago by ๐ซ๐ท stotty1111 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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I have a child's toy kayak which is r/c, it was aimed at bath time use. Cost about ยฃ15 from Amazon!
I have had it for approaching 20 yrs, and it has been regularly used at model exhibitions where small man made ponds were available. It is about 18" long, I have photos somewhere of the mechanism, time allowing in the near future i will try to find them! ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism
2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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Soโฆ.veryโฆ.COOL!!! Nice job of engineering!!
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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Thanks Gary,
The head was being adapted When I filmed that. It will be attached to a servo in the body. That way, not only will he be able to see where he is going, he will also be able to look where he is going. ๐ Graham93 ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง GaryLC ( Captain)
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I really very much admire your patience and ability to fathom out the exact movement you are looking for, and not for the faint-hearted like myself. It seems to be going well in these early trials and looks very promising. As my electronic skill is zilch I am not in a position to offer advice or anything else, mind I am very interested in your project so please keep us all informed of your progress on this venture. (Please refit his head so he can see where he is going?) Regards,Gary.
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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Thanks everyone for the kind comments.
It was interesting to put together, but somehow it just didnโt feel right so I decided to explore an alternative approach.. Graham93 ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism
2 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Brightwork ( Captain)
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Just genius!!
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism
2 years ago by ๐ฆ๐บ stevedownunder ( Captain)
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Fantastic work Graham, even if it didn't work to your expectations.
It is quite a challenge I am guessing, to mimic a person paddling. Looking forward to seeing version no2. Cheers, Stephen. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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You never cease to amaze Graham, Oh to have your electronic knowledge along with your mechanical ability its truly a fantastic combination, I look forward to version 2
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob ( Admiral)
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What you have done in your first attempt is possibly way beyond what most, if not all, of us could have hoped to achieve. That you are re-visiting the project would imply that you may have surmounted the initial problems.๐
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Rob,
Yes, I suppose it was a success in demonstrating that it didnโt work!๐ค I should explain that Iโm in โcatch upโ mode with this blog as Iโve been working on this for almost a year. I scrapped the mechanism last December and the project then stalled until recently. Havenโt given up though๐ค Graham93 ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Graham.
"Back to the drawing board"....yes perhaps. Still I would regard this as a successful 'proof of concept' that just requires a re-think on more suitable hardware to achieve the desired action. Good work nevertheless.๐๐ Rob. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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Fantastic
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 2
2 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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Thanks Gary,
Kev is a possibility, together with Charlie as suggested by Rob. Plenty of time yet to decide on a name as the build has hardly started. Graham93 ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 2
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง GaryLC ( Captain)
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Yes, Kayak Kevin sounds about right, and Kev for the shortened version. I think your mark 2 version is bordering on genius, all those different movements from one servo motor, I wouldn't have believed that was possible. Please keep up the good work on this very interesting project of yours. Regards, Gary.
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 2
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob ( Admiral)
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Charlie ?
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 2
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Phil,
I havenโt come up with a name for the rower yet. Any suggestions anyone? Graham93 ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 2
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Stephen,
Yes, I think it does look promising. A much simpler approach than the stepper motor mechanism, but it will depend on getting all the linkages to right length. Graham93 ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 2
2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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Excellent Engineering.
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 2
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง philcaretaker ( Commodore)
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Awesome Graham !
What will you call kayak man ???? ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 2
2 years ago by ๐ฆ๐บ stevedownunder ( Captain)
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Great work Graham,
Looks very promising in my opinion. Cheers, Stephen. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 3
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi JB,
Canโt have the paddler eating too much honey, Iโve got to keep the total weight down. Heโs already undergone some drastic weight reduction surgery ๐ Graham93 ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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Amazing and ingenious bit of mechanization, (I think it's all the honey he's been eating)๐
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 3
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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Speechless.๐ค
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 3
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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Thanks everyone for the comments and encouragement. Iโm just back from a weekend away attending my granddaughterโs third birthday ๐.
Itโs taken several weeks of making and remaking parts of the mechanism to get to this stage. Iโve just realised that the video clip is of an interim version without all the changes. Iโll make another video and post it later this week. Graham93 ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 3
2 years ago by ๐ช๐ธ Julio ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Hi, Graham:
Is amazing!! It is amazing to see the operation of this mechanism!! Thanks for sharing it with us ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 3
2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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Truly Amazing, Graham!!!
Thanks for Sharing๐ Trev ▲
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2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ River Rat ( Captain)
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Wow! Just Wow! You are an Amazing man! Keep up the great work. Can't wait to see it underway. Thanks Dave
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 3
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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Fantastic Graham, Iโm on holiday at the moment so canโt download the video but Iโll comment further on my return
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 3
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง GaryLC ( Captain)
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Absolutely love this project along with the thought and sheer determination that went into it. I think your achievement is incredible bordering on genius. Your oarsman (Kev the kayak) has a very determined look about him and determination is what it is all about. Keep up the good work as a very interesting project if ever there was. Regards, Gary.
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๐ฌ Re: Mechanism Mk 3
2 years ago by ๐ฆ๐บ stevedownunder ( Captain)
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Fantastic work Graham,
Cheers, Stephen. ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Superb Graham, as usual.
How aboutโ The bees kneesโ for the name.๐ฌ ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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It's amazing, I could do with your mechanical genius in full size to keep me moving.
Well done shipmate, cheers Colin. ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง philcaretaker ( Commodore)
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Love it ,
Love it , Love it ! ๐ค๐ Brilliant Graham !! ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Graham.
A superb example of electro/mechanical design and prototyping. This project will be every bit as good a 'Bill & Ben' if not better. Great work! Rob. ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Fleet,
โ Why is Kayak Ken so snooty?โ - I have plans to improve his appearance..... all will be revealed. That is once Iโve made the changes ๐ ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Michael,
Like the comments ๐. The fancy electronics are optional and Iโm sure you would make a better job of the mechanicals than I have. โCan I build you one?โ - I donโt like making more than one of anything now Iโm retired, besides, it would be much more interesting to build your own rather than have someone else do it for you.๐๐๐คฃ ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Michael,
It's quite simple really๐ Pic 2 is spaghetti junction on toast, Pic 3 is the pizza version for mass production, (The special rectangular black olives can be clearly seen, not my taste๐) Pic 4 is the Fast Food version for microwave cooking ๐ Pic 5 shows the debugger for the software. Anything with 3 to 6 legs that comes along will be thrown overboard, or eaten to fuel the on-board methane gas generator. Thus trickle charging the main power system. Pic 6 shows the hall (proximity) switch, you know, the one that switches the light on ๐ก when you stagger down the stairs on a winter's morn. โ๏ธ Alles klar Herr Kommissar? ๐ ๐ ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฆ๐บ stevedownunder ( Captain)
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Fantastic Graham,
I wish I had the skill and knowledge to build somethin like that. Cheers, Stephen. ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Once again 'supercalifragilisticexpialidocious' Graham๐ฎ๐
a real 'head turner'. Just one question!. Why is Kayak Ken so snooty? He's always looking down his nose, to see where he's going, and at we mere vassals of course!๐๐ (I called him Ken cos Kevin always makes me think of the precocious kid in 'Kevin Alone At Home'๐) ๐ ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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Hi Graham again pure alchemy.
Pictures - 1 - I understand diagram๐ 2 - is a total brain block๐ค 3 - as 2 above๐ค 4 - yes, thats a plastic box ๐ 5 - yes, plywood with electronic bits ๐ 6 - switch and magnet I understand ๐ 7 - Yes - that's a video that blows your mind๐คฃ 8 - can you build me one? ▲
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2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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Pure Genius, Graham๐๐
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง philcaretaker ( Commodore)
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Probability, suitability, feasibility all seem ticked now Graham, ๐๐
We all will be watching this space !!!!?! Well done !!๐ค ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฆ๐บ stevedownunder ( Captain)
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Great work Graham,
I like the idea of using a spread sheet, I will try to remember that one. Cheers, Stephen. ▲
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2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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WELL, DONE, Graham๐๐๐๐
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2 years ago by ๐ฆ๐บ stevedownunder ( Captain)
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Thanks for clarifying that Graham,
Yeah what could go wrong.... Cheers, Stephen. ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Stephen,
The hull will be made in two halves over the formwork. These will then be separated to allow removal of the formers and strongback before gluing the two halves together. Sounds simple enough, I just hope it works out that way! Plenty of opportunity for this to go wrong ๐ค Graham93 ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi JB,
The deck will be strip planked before everything is fitted in. I havenโt quite worked out all the details of how Iโm going to do that๐ค Graham93 ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฆ๐บ stevedownunder ( Captain)
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Hi Graham,
Great progress. This maybe a silly question, but how are you going to remove the formers and strongback? Cheers, Stephen. ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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Looks interesting Graham, - is the deck going to be strips or sheeted once everything is in ?
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2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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Anxiously anticipating the next steps, Graham.
Great description of the work done.๐๐ Trev ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Milling the strips
2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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I'm with you, Graham.
I have a problem parting with anything, as I know it will come in handy later. Trev ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Michael,
I did think about using a power plane, but I was concerned that it might grab and shred thin strips. Iโve managed to sand some strips down to just 0.8mm thickness. I was always told โwaste not, want notโ by my Lancashire born Dad. Perhaps thatโs why I have two sheds full of bits and pieces that may come in useful one day, including many bits I inherited from him ๐ค ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Milling the strips
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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Hi Graham I do a similar thing but using an old Black & Decker electric plane I built a spring mechanism to keep the strips against the fence and pushed down on the blades, so first I circular saw to near finished size then they are put through the planer
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2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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Great, Thanks for sharing, Graham
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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Thanks everyone, glad you are enjoying the blog.
I found a plan on-line for the sander. It's basically a rotating drum wound with abrasive. The table below the drum is adjustable to set the thickness using the screwed rod. It's important to have dust extraction with a sander like this, especially when sanding cedar. Graham93 ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Milling the strips
2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ River Rat ( Captain)
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If you cant find it make it. I like your style. Still amazing me with your talent!
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๐ฌ Re: Milling the strips
2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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Me Too, Colin
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๐ฌ Re: Milling the strips
2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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Spot on Graham.๐๐
I would be very interested in more info on your thickness planer. Trev ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Milling the strips
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Graham I am loving this blog, your pictures along with the detailed description is enthralling.
Can you tell us how your sanding thicknesser works ,I'm intrigued. Keep it coming shipmate, cheers Colin. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Stripping the hull
1 year ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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When I saw the title 'Stripping the hull' in my mailbox my first thought was,
Oh dear summat's gone south and had to be removedโน๏ธ, the man is human after all. But no! Of course not. On opening the post I discovered that it is another lesson in mini-master carpentry - bordering on marquetry. Brilliant stuff with lotsa food for thought. Cheers, Doug๐ ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง GaryLC ( Captain)
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Hi Graham, a very interesting project from day one, and the excitement builds as your project progresses, especially now that we can see the Kayak taking shape before our eyes. Definitely, some rather cunning and devious thinking on the problem-solving front, mind, well worth all the effort as the end result is bordering on absolutely brilliant, a master class in robotics and invention. Keep up the good work on this mind-boggling project. Regards, Gary.
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๐ฌ Re: Stripping the hull
2 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Brightwork ( Captain)
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You can never have to many clamps!!
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๐ฌ Re: Stripping the hull
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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Coming on really well, I do like to repurpose timber its so satisfying to make something out of nothing
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๐ฌ Re: Stripping the hull
2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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Looks Good, you seem to have it well under control, Graham๐๐
I have the same problem with hot melt, the strings go everywhere. Trev ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Stripping the bottom
2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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Great job of Planking, Graham๐๐๐
Very symmetrical Trev ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Stripping the bottom
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง GaryLC ( Captain)
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Great bit of planking and looks extremely streamlined, it will go through the water like a knife through butter. Great stuff and brilliant when a plan comes together.
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