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    Precedent 49" Perkasa
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    ๐Ÿ“ Precedent 49" Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant)
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    A few months ago my wife came across a Precedent Perkasa kit in a charity shop for ยฃ50. I've been restoring classic and vintage racing dinghies for the last 20+ years, have a collection of about 12 pond yachts and have a few r/c yachts, including a Vic Sneed Marblehead, an old 'A' class and a Robbe Jolle. I'd been considering a move into motorised boats for a while so the Perkasa kit looked like the ideal opportunity to start, and the money was going to a good cause.

    I ended up opening it on the floor of the charity shop and saw that it looked like everything was there, but it wasn't until I got the kit home I was able to get it all out and check everything off against the parts list to find out that everything was there.

    Luckily I have reasonably decent workshop kitted out for boat restoration and repair so work could commence.

    You'll have to bear with me when you see the pics of the build. This is my first model so it was very much learning as I went along, found I had to buy some smaller tools than I was used to and did most of the build using Epoxy with micro balloons where appropriate before discovering the delights of Cyanoacrylate.

    I'll put up a few posts in the next couple of days as I've finished the main build, now working on the details. Still have loads to do.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Precedent 49" Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ToraDog ( Captain)
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    The YouTube link works fine and the animation is terrific! I look forward to seeing her in the water!
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Precedent 49" Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง PeterJ ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Looks like it will be a fantastic model when it is finished, it may take a lot of time for the build.
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    ๐Ÿ“ Precedent 49" Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant)
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    I was a little concerned that the timber might have warped as the kit probably dates from the early 1990s, so all the keel sections and bulkheads were cut out and checked. I think this have have been a later model as the tooling used to stamp the components may have been a little blunt so cutting skills were put to the test.

    There was one sheet that had warped, mainly impacting on one of the bulkheads so this was dampened down and placed under some heavy tool boxes for a couple of days until it straightened out.

    Once the keel sections and relevant double thickness bulkheads had been laminated it was time to fit all the bulkheads and bow section before adding the stringers.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Precedent 49" Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ taffy ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Should look very nice when completed.๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Precedent 49" Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant)
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    Thanks Colin.

    It has been fun to look back at the photos, work started in July, but I'm not rushing. There's a 100 year old sailing canoe in the workshop getting a full restoration so the Perkasa gets worked on when I stop on the other boat. I'll do another few posts later to bring the build up to date.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Precedent 49" Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Great start to a vintage classic, looking forward to following your progress.
    Cheers Colin.
    ๐Ÿ“ Precedent 49" Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant)
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    So, next came the skinning. Probably the most frustrating part to do and the most satisfying when completed. Getting the chine right at the bow was a real pain - narrow laminates and balsa blocks. Had to spend a lot time looking at photos and plans of the real boat as the instructions have no information on the bow shape.

    I was getting concerned as the timber used in the bow was very brittle, I suspect the kit may have spent years on top of a wardrobe in a centrally heated room so the moisture content was low. As it happens they all pulled in OK, though I did add a few screws to hold the bow section in place while the epoxy cured, screws removed after the epoxy cured.

    The epoxy with red/brown micro balloons looks worse that it was. This is a fairing compound so sands really easily. The grey paint is a Hempel Multicoat, thin it by 50% and it makes a lovely primer, reduce the thinning to 20% and it is a nice satin topcoat. Multiple coats were applied and sanded back until the hull was as fair as possible.

    ๐Ÿ“ Precedent 49" Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant)
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    With the hull built I wanted to fit the motor, ESC etc before putting the deck on.

    Have to admit at this point knowing nothing about motors and ESCs. The last time I was involved in radio controlled motor boats was about 30 years ago when I built a 1:10 model hull of a Naval Picket Boat as a test bed for control systems for my PhD. In those days I had twin Hectoperms, a servo arm controlled speed controller and gel batteries to power a 240v invertor used to run a load of A/D and D/A expansion cards plugged into a 486 laptop linked to a GPS, fluxgate compass and log impellor.

    I spoke to Dave at Prestwich Model Boats and ended up with a Brushless water-cooled 1100kv motor and 150 Amp ESC controller, this obviously meant running the plumbing for the water cooling. There's space either side of the ESC for a 5000Mah 3s Lipo, only one will be connected at anytime but the weight is equalised by carrying 2 batteries and the size of the model allows this.

    I was a bit twitched about not having an off switch with the LiPo so there's an automotive cut off switch from an old Land Rover Winch, look a bit industrial but at least when the key is out the boat is dead.

    I made the decision to use the IA6 receivers on all my yachts so if I have one fail I can borrow one from another boat.

    With everything fitted and working time to epoxy on deck with loads of boxes of brass screws providing suitable pressure.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Precedent 49" Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant)
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    Always happy for comments and suggestions, this is my first motorboat model so am on a learning curve.

    The coupling was the one supplied by Prestwich so I assumed it was fit for purpose. Iโ€™ll have a look around for possible alternatives, slightly restricted in changing as the motor and shaft assembly are fixed in place.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Precedent 49" Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง TerryH ( Midshipman)
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    If you don't mind me saying but you would be better off discarding that coupling and getting a powerflex or heavy duty coupling for her
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Precedent 49" Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant)
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    The water cooled motor mount came from Prestwich Model Boats. Iโ€™ve bolted it to some aluminium section that is attached to an aluminium plate.

    The ESC mount is the same section and plate, the ESC is a tight fit but wonโ€™t fall out.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Precedent 49" Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Stephen T ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    who's mount is that
    ๐Ÿ“ Precedent 49" Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant)
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    After the hull build and getting the deck on I finally started to uses CA rather than epoxy. Certainly sped things up when building the superstructure. The hull still needs the top coats but while I was moving it around the workshop thought I'd leave that until later.

    The aft platform took a bit of getting right, the instructions were useless. I ended up steaming the piece that wraps around the transom platform.

    Steam was also needed for the kick rail. The 1/8" x 1/8" timber supplied was extremely brittle and split even when steamed. The solution was to use new 3mm x 3mm obeche for the aft section and to make up a jig to laminate steamed 1.5mm x 3mm for the forward section.

    At this point the decision was made to paint the hull black below the waterline, many Perkasas are red but I prefer the black, also the decks will be Nato green rather than the lighter, brighter green seen on many models.

    ๐Ÿ“ Damn the Torpedoes!
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant)
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    In the words of Tom Petty, โ€˜Damn the Torpedoesโ€™ has been the phrase of the month in my workshop.

    Iโ€™m still working on the Perkasaโ€™s superstructure but the recent cold spell has slowed progress in my unheated workshop. Fine for working on full sized boats but standing at a bench for more than 20 minutes has me running back to a warm house.

    Iโ€™m using a mix of scratch built and items bought from Battlecraft for various components.

    This build is also my first attempt at airbrushing, though I have used a rattle can for some of the larger pieces.

    The first bits to get built and painted were the torpedoes and their stands. Three of the four torpedoes came out quite well, however the fourth one has caused loads of problems. I noticed that I hadnโ€™t masked up the yellow tip very well as when I removed the masking tape there was a mist of black paint on the yellow. I thought I could just overspray it in yellow, hadnโ€™t realised the masking tape Iโ€™d used had left some silicon behind, causing the yellow to immediately orange peel.

    So, after sanding it back, degreasing it and masking the black (this time using Tamiya tape) I resprayed the yellow tip and managed to drop the torpedo onto the concrete floor. Twenty minutes later Iโ€™d found all the pieces and glued the 14 pieces back together again.

    The torpedo now needed completely repainting, took a couple of attempts to get it right and had it at a point where the yellow tip was fine and the black body needed one more coat. Started to spray it again, dropped it on the bench and the yellow tip broke off.

    After it was glued back together again it needed sanding back and it all repainted. I had it all done, standing in jam jar so the prop could be painted. Finished working on it, went to leave, opened the door and the draft from the door opening was enough to cause the torpedo to fall over with a thud and the prop end broke into three pieces.

    After several weeks, and plenty of swearing the torpedoes are finally finished. Plenty learned along the way. Hoping the painting of the Bofors and Oerliken will be less stressful!

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Damn the Torpedoes!
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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    You could just respray them using Tamiya semi-gloss clear, TS-79.
    Peter.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Damn the Torpedoes!
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant)
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    Hi Martin

    I have to say I agree, Iโ€™m currently spraying a load of other bits, using the Hempel that gives a semi gloss/satin coat that Iโ€™ve used everywhere else. In fact today I repainted some black components again with a less glossy paint.

    I was thinking the torpedos were too shiny, but with the grief I had with various paints reacting with each other Iโ€™m not sure I can cope with doing them again! Though when the boat is finally finished I may redo them before final fitting.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Damn the Torpedoes!
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi neil's,
    I have just been reading through your build log and you are doing a fantastic job building her.
    I do however think that gloss paint on the torpedoes dose not look right.
    I personally think that the majority of model boats should be painted with matt or eggshell or semi-gloss paint, especially warships.

    If You were building a luxury yacht then yes definitely gloss paint.

    Martin.
    ๐Ÿ“ Painting the Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant)
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    Now the weather has warmed up it is a balmy 16 degrees C (or 61 degrees F) in the workshop so its back to painting the Perkasa. With the boat upside down I took the opportunity to laminate a GRP cradle for a stand to be sorted later. Thought Iโ€™d better do this before the final coats of black and grey to the hull.

    Having learned a lesson about masking tape when sorting the torpedoes Iโ€™m only using Tamiya tape, very impressed with the clean line it gives.

    Iโ€™m still using Hempel for the hull - a mid grey Multicoat for above the waterline and black Multicoat for below the waterline. The advantage of the Hempel Multicoat is that if thinned it acts as a primer, with 5% thinning it is a semi gloss topcoat.

    The final coats of grey and black went into the hull nicely, I removed the waterline masking tape (treated myself to a laser level for getting the waterline right) and finally have a sharp line.

    The two parts of the superstructure had their final topcoats. The rear section needed a bit of attention as it had picked up some overspray from the yellow for the torpedo heads, another lesson learned - clear the bench of all parts when spraying.

    With the hull painted the next job is to sort the inner edge of the toe rail, now so much easier using a selection of Tamiya tapes.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Painting the Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Len1 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    In regards to the masking tape, I agree about the use of the Tamiya tape as being one of the better tapes to use. They are thin and do not leave sticky residue behind like the home store blue tapes.
    I thing Trev made a comment about how to apply the tape in a previous post that I was not able to respond to for some reason.
    He recommended spraying matt varnish over the tape joint before applying the actual contrasting color coat to help seal the tape joint and to minimize any bleed thru under the tape. This is an expellant idea but a take off on this is to spray the joint with the same paint that you used and you are trying to mask instead of the varnish. This way if there is any bleed under it will be the exact same paint you are trying to protect.
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    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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    Nice work Neil.
    I agree with you about Tamiya masking tapes. They hold firmly but are very easy to remove after drying.
    Peter.
    ๐Ÿ“ Precedent 49" Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant)
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    I have declared the hull and superstructure to be painting finished, mainly as I realised that some of the imperfections will be covered by other components or you'd have to be a contortionist to see to odd mistake.

    I have spent a fair bit of time collating the various fittings. I've found that the Precedent plan and the fittings bought from Battlecrafts don't cover the full fit out. Was fortunate to pick up a couple of Vospers books and spent a lot of time looking at pictures of the Perkasa when in service and equipped with the torpedoes. this has led to a bit of scratch building of various fittings, cabinets, vents etc.

    With the main painting declared finished, the next few weeks are going to be spent finishing off the fittings, painting and fitting.

    I did however get the first batch on the rear gunnery platform and engine room. Feels great to get some pieces attached as the painting of the hull, superstructure and torpedoes have taken a lot more time than I thought they would. Now these parts are off the bench I have space to make the rest of the rear platform fittings and can think about the bridge controls and fit out.

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    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant)
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    Hi Pete

    The torpedoes came as a 3 piece kit from Battlecrafts, the rear section had props attached so I only had to paint them bronze. The pic shows them before I painted the props.
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    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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    Lovin your build Neil, I have a Perkasa myself, only it's the 1/24 version, would like to know how or what are you going to use for the props on you torpedoes?

    many thanks, Pete
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    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant)
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    Hi Mouldbuilder

    I have the Oerliken as the rear gun, just put the primer coat on today. Iโ€™ve mounted it on the platform this evening so you can see it in scale. The Oerliken as well as the forward Bofors is motorised, both on 180 degree servos, so they rotate from side to side.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Precedent 49" Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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    Looking very good.
    Do you have the gun that is mounted at the rear built yet. I would really like to see it because I am partly through refurbishing a PTB that I built as my first effort about 40 years ago. Battle craft recommended a gun to fit but it looks enormous. The platform looks quite big on your model so maybe it is ok.
    Thanks, Peter.๐Ÿ˜Š
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Precedent 49" Perkasa
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ gcladd ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Love the progress you are making on this build. I have the 1/32 scale Precedent Perkasa that I started many years ago. I found the kit has a bit to be desired if you are looking for true accuracy. I should look into the reference books shown in your photo.

    I bought the 1/72 scale Tamiya Perkasa as a reference around the same time and started to measure with mic and Vernier all the parts on the parts trees and redraw them in AutoCAD (yes I am crazy) as starting point to rescale and build from scratch. Drawing work is always progressive as I build each part. Eventually I will get a laser cutter and do what John Drain does with his stuff on pt-boat.com.

    Perkasa build has been on hold for about 3 months but I will go back to it soon since I hope to paint the hull in the spring. Shown is one of many parts I have built from my rescaled Tamiya drawings. This part was difficult and had many modifications made to suit the Precedent's hull geometry.
    ๐Ÿ“ Devil in the detail
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant)
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    Seem to have spent the last few weeks squinting, measuring and removing small components superglued to fingers.

    Lots of progress with the smaller parts, the bridge is starting to look like a real boat. The job I didnโ€™t want to do was fitting the windows. The big mistake I made was fitting the side windows before I made the decision to fit window frames, so the acrylic windows had to be cut out when I fitted the frames. This meant the replacement windows had to be fitted by applying canopy glue and inserted blind into the cabin sides.

    The front windows were slightly easier to fit as there was more room to manoeuvre them into place.

    The brass hand rails went in a lot easier than I thought they would, quite pleased with the results.

    The bridge fit-out is coming along, mainly made from plasticard, Iโ€™ll be adding a few more controls later.

    The trickiest part has been the construction of two pieces of the foredeck equipment, 50mm long with 12mm bracing pieces. Took a while to get them to be square, now in paint.


    Loads more detail to add, should to starting to fit the deck gear once the workshop warms up a bit.

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    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ taffy ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    It is looking fantastic so far. hope to see it completed๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿคž
    JB
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    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Nice work Neil, coming along well.๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

    JB
    ๐Ÿ“ More fiddly stuff
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant)
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    After seeing Garthโ€™s video about stanchions I decided I couldnโ€™t put off fitting mine. These are 2 hole stanchions and the lines are 0.7mm brass. Iโ€™ll paint the lines a metallic grey when they are all fitted - thought Iโ€™d scrape the paint off if I painted them before fitting. Still needs a little bit of fettling but quite happy how it went.

    The starboard side and foredeck are coming along nicely. Bofors, Oerliken and rocket launchers are in paint at the moment, nice to get on detail on them. Hopefully can start on the port side in a couple of days.

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