So...
I've had the superstructure removed from the hull for a few days starting on the driveline. So I popped it back on with my first run of light rust and panel details, I went very light to start. Just scratching the surface literally and figuratively on this tug. I am not sure how deep I'll go with a dirty wash over everything. Maybe too much grime is a mistake? Pix attached.
Another issue is the fire monitor. What I mean by that is that the NYCentral rail tugs dropped (took out of fire service) the four cabin-side fire hydrants and disabled the main monitor. So I may not install the hydrants, but keep the roof top monitor as old photos of #24 still has its monitor, but not the four hydrants. I may be doing my usual "scale obsession" with this decision. So that falls into the TBD department.
But, despite some slow progress in the detail department, a buddy just let me know that he has a nice, lightly used Futaba Attack transmitter with receiver and a stock esc so will move on that install as soon I get a chance to pick them up. We'll see if that'll work with the old motor. ESC Heat may be a problem with that big motor and prop....Hmmmmmm, I may be haunted by my "old school" approach! 🤣
BTW: Questions to follow about that "new old stock" motor.
More to follow and best to all!
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So...
I've had the superstructure removed from the hull for a few days starting on the driveline. So I popped it back on with my first run of light rust and panel details, I went very light to start. Just scratching the surface literally and figuratively on this tug. I am not sure how deep I'll go with a dirty wash over everything. Maybe too much grime is a mistake? Pix attached.
Another issue is the fire monitor. What I mean by that is that the NYCentral rail tugs dropped (took out of fire service) the four cabin-side fire hydrants and disabled the main monitor. So I may not install the hydrants, but keep the roof top monitor as old photos of #24 still has its monitor, but not the four hydrants. I may be doing my usual "scale obsession" with this decision. So that falls into the TBD department.
But, despite some slow progress in the detail department, a buddy just let me know that he has a nice, lightly used Futaba Attack transmitter with receiver and a stock esc so will move on that install as soon I get a chance to pick them up. We'll see if that'll work with the old motor. ESC Heat may be a problem with that big motor and prop....Hmmmmmm, I may be haunted by my "old school" approach! 🤣
BTW: Questions to follow about that "new old stock" motor.
Hey Gang:
Finally getting back to the shop after vacation...
Call me crazy, but couldn't resist the old stock Dumas 12V motor. So trial fitting has begun in earnest. I know it'll be noisy and somewhat inefficient (?), but going to take the plunge anyway.
Also have to purchase the Hobbywing 1060 ESC and go from there. Still much to do especially with tub and ballast tests. Have spare bricks on hand! 🤣
PS: Stumbled across a New-In-Box Graupner Neptun frieghter kit for $100. Couldn't resist! My wife's going to kill me.😉
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Hey Gang:
Finally getting back to the shop after vacation...
Call me crazy, but couldn't resist the old stock Dumas 12V motor. So trial fitting has begun in earnest. I know it'll be noisy and somewhat inefficient (?), but going to take the plunge anyway.
Also have to purchase the Hobbywing 1060 ESC and go from there. Still much to do especially with tub and ballast tests. Have spare bricks on hand! 🤣
PS: Stumbled across a New-In-Box Graupner Neptun frieghter kit for $100. Couldn't resist! My wife's going to kill me.😉
@jumpugly
I understand .... I'm pretty sure my wife has had a contract out on me for a while.
My latest "find" was the old build Seguin. I wish I had caught the look on her eyes when she discovered it .... 😲😠
Life is short, why resist?
Dave B
G'day Mates!
Well, I went and made what may be considered a hasty move. I stumbled across a NIB never used Dumas Products Model #2005 12V motor that was designed for the 2005 and up versions of my tug. I am also using the original off-set gear drive system designed for this motor. Now here's the rub... how should I go about finding and workable esc, best batteries for power, and trans/receiver combo; although with the later, I may just go with a trusty Futaba set-up.
Is my brain over thinking this new situation?
Any and suggestions deeply appreciated!
😬
G'day Mates!
Well, I went and made what may be considered a hasty move. I stumbled across a NIB never used Dumas Products Model #2005 12V motor that was designed for the 2005 and up versions of my tug. I am also using the original off-set gear drive system designed for this motor. Now here's the rub... how should I go about finding and workable esc, best batteries for power, and trans/receiver combo; although with the later, I may just go with a trusty Futaba set-up.
Is my brain over thinking this new situation?
Any and suggestions deeply appreciated!
😬
@jumpugly I pretty much use Hobbywing 1060's and 1080's in everything ....
I agree with people's concerns with Lipo, but I have given in, and started using them.
Wishing you the best of luck in the setup!
Dave B
@DWBrinkman
The 1060 ESC looks like a great call to marry to the old 12V Dave! And reasonably priced as well!
I feel that I should grab one for sure.
Many thanks! -- Guy
Hello Gang!
I work on the tug any chance I get nowadays. Pudding and bumper tires in place. And serious weathering is just about ready to commence: I think. Ballast tests coming soon.😉
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Hello Gang!
I work on the tug any chance I get nowadays. Pudding and bumper tires in place. And serious weathering is just about ready to commence: I think. Ballast tests coming soon.😉
@Ronald
LOL!
Truth be told, these NYCentral tugs had these massive rubber "puddings" on the bow and not the old style gigantic rope ball bumpers. So, in a way, I took the easy way out, but got the scale look I was looking for.
😉
Hello me Matey’s!
The small stuff abounds with this one. But the really work is yet to come, especially as ballast testing to how I am going to power this beast! Confusion abounds. More on that later. 😉
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Hello me Matey’s!
The small stuff abounds with this one. But the really work is yet to come, especially as ballast testing to how I am going to power this beast! Confusion abounds. More on that later. 😉
@jumpugly Morning bud!! Hey, I understand radio silence. At 65 years old, I still work 50+hours a week, so my time on this board is limited...I post my build blog updates and bail. So don't feel bad brother.
About the transmitter...I'm not sure if the protocol for the Harbor Tug is Spektrum or not. My transmitter is a Radiomaster 16s, which has the 4in1 module installed on the board. i can bind to Frsky, Flysky, Spektrum, Joysway, some variants of Futaba, and more. Ive tried to bind to that esc/rx combo that came with the boat, but so far I haven't found the right protocol. Also, I have found no reference to what light does what when you bind the receiver. Sometimes I think Spektrum goes beyond proprietary, think they're trying to be the DARPA of the RC world. So, long story short, I'm not using the supplied transmitter. From what I can tell it works fine, has multiple channels (4, I think) and does a decent job.
What transmitter are you planning to use? If you need help sorting out I'll do my best!!
@Cashrc
Thanks agin for the reply
In general I like the old tried and true 2Channel Futaba's. They are inexpensive used, but the trick is finding the right ESC to use with them. I am also a bit down on Lipos, although with my Traxxas Spartan I've been able to negotiate the charging and storage issues. Nothing about them is as simple as the old style Tamiya Nicads...or even nimh batteries for that matter. Although I do like the idea of going with one 2 cell lipo for the tug, just to move her around despite the prop size. My wife thinks I'm nuts putting my tug in the water, and she wants me to detail it out even more for display. LOL!
It seems a bit wrong not to put it in the water! Be that as it may there's a ProBoat dealer not too far from me. I'll see what he's got for sale or I'll just go to an outfit like OmniModels and get it the electronics there. I also see a ton of new stuff coming from China that seems good and very cheap! I'm just not sure yet.
😉
Hello Gang!
When I'm not trying to understand the science of Lipos for my Traxxas Spartan, I run down to the shop and do a little more work on the tug, with some of the crew taking a smoke break.
I picked up a wrecked Pro Boat and ripped out all the electronics and hope to transfer them in this hull...I hope.
Cash! post pix of your horizon tug innards! 😀😉
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Hello Gang!
When I'm not trying to understand the science of Lipos for my Traxxas Spartan, I run down to the shop and do a little more work on the tug, with some of the crew taking a smoke break.
I picked up a wrecked Pro Boat and ripped out all the electronics and hope to transfer them in this hull...I hope.
Cash! post pix of your horizon tug innards! 😀😉
Ahoy Mateys:
Detailing continues, albeit slowly, but happy with the results so far. May stop with the window dressing for now to focus on the mechanicals for a while. It's going to swing a large (3") heavy brass prop, so I may ditch the offset system that Dumas originally called for and go direct drive. I am open to suggestions. But, keep in mind that after some research it seems that this beast will require upwards of 19 pounds of ballast to get her to sit right. And I prefer not to go Lipo with this one. Much to consider. We'll see.
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Ahoy Mateys:
Detailing continues, albeit slowly, but happy with the results so far. May stop with the window dressing for now to focus on the mechanicals for a while. It's going to swing a large (3") heavy brass prop, so I may ditch the offset system that Dumas originally called for and go direct drive. I am open to suggestions. But, keep in mind that after some research it seems that this beast will require upwards of 19 pounds of ballast to get her to sit right. And I prefer not to go Lipo with this one. Much to consider. We'll see.
Thank God for railroad decals! This is not perfect, but it's pretty close to what I was looking for and a difficult task, but decal wrangling when it works makes all the difference in the world to us modelers! Much to be done especially weathering.
😁
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Thank God for railroad decals! This is not perfect, but it's pretty close to what I was looking for and a difficult task, but decal wrangling when it works makes all the difference in the world to us modelers! Much to be done especially weathering.
😁
Hey Folks!
Railings and skylight roughed in. Shame to paint the railings, but the NYCentral went with a grey/black on their railings. We'll see.
😉
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Before and after update…
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@jumpugly Jumpugly,
What a remarkable transformation already.
The difference between the earlier stage and the latest photos is striking, and the tug is really beginning to develop that heavy, purposeful Brooklyn harbor character.
The hull lines look superb, and the new paintwork gives the model tremendous presence. I especially like the contrast between the black hull, red bottom, and the muted wheelhouse color — very clean, very classic, and exactly the sort of working finish these tugs carried.
The proportions also look spot on. Even sitting on the stand in the workshop, it already has the unmistakable “weight” and stance of a real harbor tug. That is not easy to achieve in model form.
You are building a beautiful piece of maritime history here, and it is wonderful watching the project evolve step by step. Looking forward to seeing the next stage of detailing and maybe weathering.
Outstanding work so far. ⚓
Absolutely beautiful, Jumpugly; the sailor on the railing is a touch of exceptional realism and beauty.