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    Speranza 01
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    ๐Ÿ“ Speranza 01
    7 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    This is one that i,ve yearned after for some considerable years. Had the plans in the 1960's, I think, but it was always put on the back burner. But needs must, we have a big sailing lake now and a Sea Queen looks ideal on this water.
    Speranza, built from Plans, first thing source the timber, 5mm ply for keel and bulkheads,and Obechie 6mm X 3mm laminated for stringers and chine lines. Transferring bulkheads/frames to the timber can be daunting, but several methods can be applied. Personally i prefer to Trace the outline and detail then pin prick the outlines onto the timber, you can do this direct from the plan, but using tracing paper or drafting film saves the drawing from disintegrating. Have used carbon paper in the past, but I did find this a bit messy, a personal choice.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Speranza 01
    6 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช Dampfgerd ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    ๐Ÿ“ Speranza 02
    7 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    After the marking out, start on the cutting out external lines, then remove the unwanted internal ply, a dry fit or several as progress develops. Regards Muddy....

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Speranza 02
    7 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    ... ๐Ÿ˜Š lol .. No pressure then ! .. lol ๐Ÿ˜Š
    I,m afraid this may not be a quick build, because it is an "infill" build.. Always try to have two models on the go, as sometimes waiting for glue or worse still, the paint to dry that's a lot of wood cutting time wasted.. Regards Muddy
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Speranza 02
    7 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง AlanP ( Lieutenant)
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    Watching this with interest.๐Ÿ‘

    Alan
    ๐Ÿ“ Speranza 01
    7 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Started on the Stringers and Chines, some of the stringers are Spruce, 1/4" x 1/4" , one cracked on the bow curvature, not immediately it was glued and pinned, but about an hour after, should have laminated these spruce stringers as in 1/8" x 1/4" times 2. Another one has cracked since but they are repairable..
    Mixed up a weak solution of PVA and water and painted the rest, hoping this will soften them up and be more pliable. Started on the transom, this is angled with a sharp centre line, but there was a lot of off cuts of Obechie lying around, so it was planked with a curve, first Modelers License applied. A few more dry fits and the bow and transom were assembled up, using stringers as alignment tools, anything will do in these instances even strips of ply. Some of the upper-works combing has been fitted around the transom area. Muddy....

    ๐Ÿ“ Speranza
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Only three years ago, i shelved this one, and what with the other's receiving paint i was stuck with nothing to do, a quick look into the started cupboard and there she was, Speranza, first purchased the plans in about 1966-ishhh, and in those days a 40 " boat was big compared to the Aerokits and Veron's, Down to the repair to the spruce stringer which cracked because i did not laminate it, as usual practice, applied a splint trying to close up the gap created by the split and added a strip of Obechi to the outer inbetween the first two formers as this had pulled square instead of being slightly curved, Here's hoping tomorrow i can attack it with a sander.
    Muddy ..

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Speranza
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Genau Muddy๐Ÿ˜
    (Exactly!) Very good๐Ÿ‘
    No heel clicking please, a simple grovel will suffice Warrant๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ
    Good luck with the rest of your build, glad you are recovered and up to it again๐Ÿ‘
    Never heard of laminated stringers before, but it makes sense when such strength is needed.
    Doubles the work though๐Ÿค”
    More power to your sander, keep well.
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Speranza
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Doug, I believe this is the translation -

    "PS: I'm Fleet Admiral, not Fleet Admiral !!
    Painful heel cracking is not absolutely necessary"..

    Keep smiling and better still, Keep Safe. atb.. Muddy..
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Speranza
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Thank you Fleet, ( I think ) lol..
    Laminated Stringer, I'll try, if the drawing states 1/4" x 1/4", one would laminate 2 off 1/4" x 1/8", glueing together, thus making up the required size of a 1/4" x 1/4".
    Hope that helps.
    OK about Colin, he has passed me a few "Likes" in the past..

    Not sure abt the P.S. I'll try to decode this later on..

    ATB Doug de Muddy..
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Speranza
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Stand easy Warrant!
    Explanation accepted. Trust you are now passed A1 Fit For service ๐Ÿ‘
    (Next time get a Chit from the Fleet MO๐Ÿ˜‰)
    See what you mean with the stringers, s'pose you weren't expecting to leave them for so long.
    Not quite sure what you mean with 'laminated stringers' but I guess we live and learn.

    Hope you find what you need in the cupboard.๐Ÿค“
    Looking forward to the rest of your build.
    Colin_H is a very experienced and expert vintage model boat restorer near Hereford, and Second in Command MB Navy South Western Command. ๐Ÿ˜Š
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    PS: Ich bin Fleet Admiral, nicht Flotten Admiral!!
    Schmerzhaften Fersen-knacken ist nicht unbedingt nรถtig๐Ÿ˜‰
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Speranza
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Thank You FLEET, Your comments are always noted.
    My only excuse was Illness, and for that i stand guilty.
    There have been Spasms of enthusiasm, but the ongoing projects were to big, thats why i started the trawler My Susan. Slowly building up to get back into it... !

    It's a long time since i,ve been on the carpet, and not a military one either.
    Will await communication(s) from Colin, ( Who is Colin )..? Besides my regional/Divisional Officer.
    Speranza is back on hold, no timber for the hull, so i,m looking in the cupboard again..
    I never steam or soak strings, i would rather laminate, the usual practice is to rub glue into the timber before applying to the bulkheads etc: this usually works for me, but on this occasion i was trying to rush the job along and chance my luck.. well you can see the resault.
    lol.. The other timber on the frame is well dryed out now as you say, but no other nasties are showing.
    Been adding a few bits to the frame and some filler paint to the Transom, so Sander and Mask tomorrow, here's hoping lol ..
    Regards Muddy.. ( Clicking heels )..
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Speranza
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Wondered what had happened to 'Speranza' Muddy.
    Seem to remember we were digging around for plans and photos some time ago.
    You've been AWOL since then Warrant!๐Ÿ˜ 
    Think I may need to have a word with your Division Officer; Commander Colin_H!
    As your CO he will decide if disciplinary action is necessary๐Ÿค”

    In the meantime carry on Warrant, Steady as you go๐Ÿ‘
    Maybe steaming or soaking the stringers before fitting would have prevented the cracking?
    On the other hand, they were left a rather long time to dry out and 'do their own thing'.
    Happy sanding; don't forget the dust mask!!
    FLEET// ๐Ÿ˜
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    ๐Ÿ“ Speranza
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Sanded down the hull, stringers and Transom ready to accept the hull skins, but when opened the wood store the cupboard was near bare, the allocation of ply had been used up, dont ask where, the memory cells are on strike. The combing was added and the propshaft supports, as there are going to be two shafts or twin screw. After these jobs were done i was in limbo and as the frame is rather flexible if not on the point of being flimsey because of the lightness of construction, not my idea. Made a start on the foredeck, with Mahogany planks and a caulking strip, this again was a bit hairaising because of the light framework, but the main hull structure started to be more rigid, here's hoping. There's not a lot more to do because of the materials shortage. More to follow, but not in the near future, not my fault !
    Keep smiling and safe..
    Muddy ..

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Speranza
    2 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช Dampfgerd ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hallo
    Found on Ebay a Speranza
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/184949005023
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Speranza
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช Dampfgerd ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Nice to see that it goes on. We had spoken at the time because I also have the planset, but mine is still sleeping.Now you make me hungry lol
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Speranza
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Thank you Sir.. Now i dare not take any close ups ! lol..
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Speranza
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Hello Ron, A mixture of both realy Ron, where the holes are tight up against the combing they were drilled, and the others a bradaw was used, but the timber was old mahogany and as tough as old boots, easily split. Tend to use Tightbond, the standard stuff although if i,m working on bare wood finish then i use the brown Tightbond think its Tightbond 3. The standard Tightbond is not a waterproof glue , but as nearly ebverything is either painted or varnished i cannot see the point, the Tightbond 3 is a waterproof version as well as being brown in colour..
    The reason for using this glue is that it is an Alphatic, and dries hard so one can work it with sandpaper etc: and it does not have that rubbery texture when dry.
    Hope this helps .. Muddy ..
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Speranza
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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    Very nice. Good wood working.๐Ÿ‘
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Speranza
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Admiral)
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    Amazing workmanship! Did you pre-drill the holes before putting the deck nails?

    What glue are you using?

    Ron
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Speranza
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    The words " ... you'r not having that ! " Ring quite loudly in my ears on a regular basis LOL!!!

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Speranza
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Hello Martin, Thanks for the comment, I was merandering around the outhouse not so long ago "inspecting" an old chair, and there was a loud bellowing " ... your not having that ! " needless to say i did not need further encouragement ! .. lol ..
    Stay safe Muddy..
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Speranza
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi muddy,
    Looking good so far.
    Shame about the shortage of materials.
    If the lockdown lasts much longer you will end up cutting up the coffee table in to strips LOL!!!

    Martin555.


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