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๐ฌ NAXOS - Fishing Boat
6 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi hecrowell,
limewood is called basswood in your neck o' the woods! Thought this (bass or linden) is a fairly common tree in N America!? Has nothing to do with the citrus fruit lime tree though. Obechi is very similar to the hardest grades of balsa. Balsa and obechi trees don't grow round here (Munich) either but there's no shortage of it in the model shops / online stores. I'm still wondering about 'rolling ply' as well๐ฒ๐ค Cheers Doug ๐ ▲
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6 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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At the risk of being really stupid, what is "rolling ply"? I have never heard that term before.
Obechi or Lime? Fat chance that I would ever locate that in this part of the world. Fir, Spruce, Oak, Birch would be my best bets. ▲
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๐ฌ NAXOS - Fishing Boat
6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง onetenor ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Use thinner ply and make it rolling ply IF you can get it? I last saw it in B&Q.๐
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๐ฌ NAXOS - Fishing Boat
6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง onetenor ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Obechi or Lime for the keel/keelson and skeg.
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๐ฌ NAXOS - Fishing Boat
6 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Hi Zdneck
Just looking at that build of the NAXOS. Had a good look at all of the images and from what I can see, the frames/Keel does not seem to be made from plywood. it looks solid like maybe basswood or similar. Can you give me any pointers on the type of wood best for framing? I would think that even though Ply may be stronger, it will be quite hard to fair when applying planking. Only my thoughts. ▲
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๐ฌ NAXOS - Fishing Boat
7 years ago by ๐ธ๐ฐ watson220 ( Leading Seaman)
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I use the sound module on my ship from the Slovak manufacturer to give her a preview of what sound it has.
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๐ฌ NAXOS - Fishing Boat
7 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Zdenek, thanks for helping out again๐
I agree with you, doesn't look much different in the basic construction! Na zdravรญ! Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ NAXOS - Fishing Boat
7 years ago by ๐จ๐ฟ Zdenek ( Leading Seaman)
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And one more:
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๐ฌ NAXOS - Fishing Boat
7 years ago by ๐จ๐ฟ Zdenek ( Leading Seaman)
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The plan is from the era of "Czechoslovakia" and the design was inspired by an italian fishing boat "Susanna". it is not a true-scale modell.
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๐ฌ NAXOS - Fishing Boat
7 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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More likely the Aegean Sea, Naxos is a Greek island, the largest of the Cyclades group. Since the plan seems to come from Bratislava,capital of Slovakia, you're probably right about the language. Maybe inkoust can help again there? Happy building anyway๐ Doug
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๐ฌ NAXOS - Fishing Boat
7 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Speaking of plans - here is what I have managed to dig up. Obtained online and bearing no copyright marking, i am hopeful that I am not subject to copyright infringements...if I am, they will be imediately removed.
Lots of reference numbers, but no key to let me know what they refer to. Plans are in unknown language to me, but I suspect Slovak. ▲
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๐ฌ Full Size Plans - NAXOS
7 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Can't quite recall about the Hungarian, but I read it somewhere among my searches. it was quite obvious that the remark was not right.
Actually, my printer is a scanner/fax and can handle A3, A4, US Letter and US Legal, so I may be on the right track. ▲
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7 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Yep, quite right Wingcoax ๐, it's called a 'Skeg'. Also protects rudder and props from damage by grounding.
@ hecrowell; can thoroughly recommend an A3 scanner/copier/printer for such jobs, don't cost the earth these days and in the long run much much cheaper than print shops, never used one myself! BTW: thanks for the credits!๐ Where did you read about Hungarian? it's Czech! Confirmed by a native speaker. Cheers Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Full Size Plans - NAXOS
7 years ago by ๐ต๐น Wingcoax ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Quite a common method of support, it steadies the bottom end.
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๐ฌ Full Size Plans - NAXOS
7 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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QUESTION:
On the bottom end of the rudder, there seems to me a curved bit of material with one end I suppose supporting the rudder and the other end extending into the keel and keelson. Looks to be item 30 maybe? Can anyone enlighten me on that arrangement? ▲
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๐ฌ An experiment with foam board
6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง onetenor ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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A ruler might help check the plans. My 75 yrs old brain can't get it right LOL
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๐ฌ Engine question
7 years ago by ๐จ๐ฟ Zdenek ( Leading Seaman)
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What I know about fishing boats of this type, they usually use diesel engines (approximately since WW II).
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๐ฌ NAXOS - Fishing Boat
6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง onetenor ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Regarding measuring up the plans!Would a ruler help? He He He! At least You got the tiling right which is more than this 75 yrs old's brain can get right.
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6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง onetenor ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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As an afterthought visit a distant club now and then and establish a connexion. They may be able to assist fixing yourselves to start your club.๐ Cheers John
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๐ฌ NAXOS - Fishing Boat
6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง onetenor ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Pity about the lack of clubs but I hope my waffle is useful.Also log on to model boat mayhem forum and see if anyone there can help๐ out
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๐ฌ NAXOS - Fishing Boat
6 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Thanks for the response/info, onetenor. Boat clubs in my area are scarce - like none. Myself and a few other interested "boaters" are thinking of recreating one that used to be very active here. it faded out because of age of membership and no newer and younger members.
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๐ฌ NAXOS - Fishing Boat
6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง onetenor ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Depending on what voltage you intend using governs what gearing you should use commensurate with size and weight of model and prop size ,
IE small boat and prop ,low voltage direct drive would do. As you go bigger then consider gearing.Bear in mind the torque produced by the drill. You could build a large boat with a fine turn of speed using that motor. The thing is there are so many possible variables you could experiment till the cows come home. The thing is how big a boat can you handle without putting your back out. LOL. if you remove the existing gear and replace it with one secured by grub screws and a "GearBox" with easily changed cogs you can achieve something suitable. You shouldn't need cooling .Remember the drill had none and your motor will have free space round it in the hull. if you decide you do want cooling annealed copper tubing can be wound round the can and one of the plastic tubes used to couple this to the scoop and the outlet. One way of making a scoop is a length of tubing with a slot cut in it and a cap soldered (or glued depending on material) on the end when in place under the hull the cutout will face forward. Preferably in the prop wash.Or buy a ready made scoop from a model shop. Much simpler as the mounting method will be incorporated in it already. Here is a page of suitable shops.-- ▲
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๐ฌ NAXOS - Fishing Boat
6 years ago by ๐ต๐น Wingcoax ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Water scoop is normally sited just behind the prop and offset to enable the prop to push water up the scoop, the outlet is usually in the transom,although i have seen them mounted in the side.
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๐ฌ Re: Naxos - finally, some progress
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hecrowell,
Congrats on your promotion. Martin555. ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Welcome back Hec,๐
Looking forward to progress reports. Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Naxos - finally, some progress
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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I am glad you are feeling better.
I will be following this build. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Naxos - finally, some progress
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ Joe727 ( Commander)
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Hello,
Glad to see you are feeling well and back at the build, I can identify with that, great to have the energy and enthusiasm back! ๐ Good recipe for homemade modpog... Joe ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Slight holdup
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Gerd,
Stimmt, aber- Ich glaube wir haben dass ganz am Anfang diese Geschichte schon geklรคrt! Der grรถรte Insel der Cycladen. Grรผร, Doug ๐ ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Dampfgerd ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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๐ฌ Re: Slight holdup
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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๐ฌ Re: Slight holdup
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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Bad luck, I expect a similar mishap every time I switch on my saw. It is over forty years old, a Swiss magnetal saw from Hgbbies whilst they still had a shop in London and it cost ยฃ42. I've had my money's worth.
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๐ฌ Re: Slight holdup
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sorry to hear that.
Not a good start to this project, but hopefully you will get going again soon. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: NAXOS - build started
4 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Hey - cโmon, Ian. The water is fine. Jump in and do it. If you wait, it may never get done....I nearly found that out the hard way!
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ianed57 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Great stuff, looking forward to this build as I always liked Naxos. It's a boat I would like to build if I live long enough!๐ค
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๐ฌ Re: NAXOS - build started
4 years ago by ๐ฟ๐ฆ redpmg ( Commodore)
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Great ingenuity - so as Martin says "well done" . Enjoy your building - its a great looking boat. The coping saw might well come in handy too.
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๐ฌ Re: NAXOS - build started
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Good work and a great idea.
Well done. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: NAXOS - build started
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Great ideas come from necessity. Well done.
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๐ฌ Re: Cabin and wheelhouse for the SAXON
4 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Much easier to seek forgiveness than it is to get permission. (Hehe)
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๐ฌ Re: Cabin and wheelhouse for the SAXON
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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"In the vegetable steamer" you naughty boy LOL!!!
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