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📝 HMS Dreadnought
7 years ago by 🇨🇦 Gdaynorm (
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Decision made. 1875 battleship Dreadnought to 1/96. Hoping for NMM drawings. Have two photos so far off Wikipedia. Wish me luck.
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📝 Progress 12th January
6 years ago by 🇨🇦 Gdaynorm ( Warrant Officer)
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Bridge structure nearing completion. Railings need some straightening and windows glazed. I assume the decks would be planked. This is one difficult unit to build! Anyone confirm that?
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💬 Progress 12th January
6 years ago by 🇬🇧 Smiffy (
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Hi
I was just reading your build blog and realised that I had seen a picture of HMS Dreadnought somewhere - it was taken about 1888 in harbour at Malta and shows her with decks cleared for action. I don’t imagine it will help a lot with your build but might be of interest. (My original scan is the right way up but it looks as if it has been turned upside down when I attached it.) All the best Smiffy 
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📝 Frustration
6 years ago by 🇨🇦 Gdaynorm ( Warrant Officer)
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Maybe I'm getting old, but I have never had so many 'don't like it make it again"! Part problem is the drawings I have don't always agree with photos. But there is progress.
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💬 Frustration
6 years ago by 🇨🇦 Gdaynorm (
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Thanks mate. The foredeck shot will be a great help.
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📝 Focsle
6 years ago by 🇨🇦 Gdaynorm ( Warrant Officer)
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Progress at last, but have no info for focsle arrangement, winches etc. Assume would be similar to Nelson's, even though twenty years previous?
From what I can see, her guardrails were mounted on the deck planking rather than outside on the steel
From what I can see, her guardrails were mounted on the deck planking rather than outside on the steel
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💬 Focsle
6 years ago by 🇨🇦 Gdaynorm (
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Actually you sent me the bow shot some time back. What I am missing is the layout of anchor winches and anchor chain runs. I guess they will be similar to Nelson. Pity Greenwich has got SO expensive!
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💬 Focsle
6 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich (
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Hi Norm, maybe this GA dwg and bow shots will help a little?
Cheers Doug 😎 
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📝 Progress
6 years ago by 🇨🇦 Gdaynorm ( Warrant Officer)
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At least she looks like a warship at last. I wonder if her anchor winches would be different to those twenty years later. She had multiple booms for torpedo nets. I assume they were mounted to the hull a few feet above waterline and swung out from there. Were they wood or steel does anyone know? Must have been quite an operation setting them out!
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💬 Progress
6 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich (
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They were wooden spars Norm, but removed a few years later when net cutting torpedoes rendered the nets useless, and just a time consuming encumbrance. Depends what you want to build: As built or As in Service.
So far so good 👍 Cheers Doug 😎 ▲
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📝 Winches
6 years ago by 🇨🇦 Gdaynorm ( Warrant Officer)
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Doug, Have you any info on Dreadnought's anchor winches? She now has all,I think!, of her portholes, well over a hundred. Anchors next, then guard rails around the focsle.
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💬 Winches
6 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich (
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Sorry Norm, Got a bit carried away 🤔That's HMS Hood, but I strongly suspect that the capstan / anchor chain arrangement would have been very very similar. After all Hood was only 10 years or so later and much from the Dreadnought was used again and/or improved.
Suspect that, as you said, foredeck arrangements were virtually identical on the Nelson class. Cheers, Doug 😎 ▲
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6 years ago by 🇨🇦 Gdaynorm (
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Really great, thanks. The view to the bridge is odd. Did she undergo a major refit. The entire bridge looks different.
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💬 Winches
6 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich (
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BINGO!!
Just found a photo of the foredeck showing winches (capstans) and chains.😊 Hope it's not too late 😲 Cheers, Doug 😎 
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💬 Winches
6 years ago by 🇨🇦 Gdaynorm (
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Hi Doug,
As I already have six working models, my lady suggested they were enough to take to the lake, and I did actually agree! Most of them are 1/96, only Nelson 1/192. The smaller scale is a bit vulnerable. Illustrious at 1/96 would never fit in my workshop, which also has a washing machine and dryer. But yes, I would have liked her to sail. ▲
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6 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich (
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Hi Norm, very glad to help. You have already proven with your magnificent Illustrious that it's well worth the effort.
I'm only slightly sad that we will never see Illustrious or Dreadnought at sea! 🤔 Nevertheless, super builds👍 Keep up the good work, cheers Doug 😎 ▲
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💬 Winches
6 years ago by 🇨🇦 Gdaynorm (
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Thanks Doug. Help appreciated! X turret pic very helpful for the after mast set up.
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6 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich (
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Hi Norm, as far as I can make out Dreadnought had the same steel chain 'runways'. All manufacturers versions of the model show them as well.
Re: 14pdr AA guns. Some pics attached, including fwd turret. 1. Fwd turret 2. 'X' turret 3. Mid & Aft turret. 4. Stern view, Portsmouth dry dock 1916. Hope these help, cheers Doug 😎 PS: you might find this useful! From the 'Know Your Ship' series. 
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💬 Winches
6 years ago by 🇨🇦 Gdaynorm (
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Hi Doug,
What a beautiful model. Whose? Keep seeing things differently. The 14pdr gune set up on the main turrets on that model seems a bit different from the photo I have of a rear turret. I will stay with what I have done and say a prayer or three. Have started on anchors, see pic. The shot you gave me of the bow shows the ab nchors very well. They were huge! Don't look too closely at my pic. There is all sorts of cleaning up to do! I am surprised the anchor chains seem to be hauled across the deck planking. Nelson had steel runways for the chains to run across. 
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💬 Winches
6 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich (
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Evenin' Norm,
Best I can do are GA drawings, focsl photos are as rare as rocking horse droppings 🤔 They don't seem too complicated though. Just simple capstans with the drive motors 'downstairs ' near the bilges. So far so good with the build 👍 keep it up, cheers Doug 😎 
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📝 Catheads
6 years ago by 🇨🇦 Gdaynorm ( Warrant Officer)
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Hi Doug,
Your shot of the foredeck is great, but I cannot find any pics of the clump catheads. They must have had some sort of winch, so I assume they were just a heavy protrusion with the winch mounted behind it?
Your shot of the foredeck is great, but I cannot find any pics of the clump catheads. They must have had some sort of winch, so I assume they were just a heavy protrusion with the winch mounted behind it?
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6 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich (
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Clump or Clamp! 😲
This is basically what they looked like I think, see J6 in attached pic. 😎 
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6 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich (
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Hi Norm,
Why a winch? I believe the catheads are only there to hold the chain away from the side and stop the anchor bashing the hull until it is fully weighed. Hang over from wooden ship days. Or "Small projection from ship’s side just abaft hawser pipe. Used for suspending an anchor when cable is disconnected and used for mooring to a buoy." See pic of 1/192 version from John R Haynes, Cheers Doug 😎 
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📝 Ctheads etc
6 years ago by 🇨🇦 Gdaynorm ( Warrant Officer)
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Hi Doug, What ship's foredeck was that? Hood maybe? Looking at the bow shot you put up I cannot see any catheads. From the drawings I have, which are not Admiralty, she had three capstains feeding the chains into only two lockers. Odd. There is also a very large capstan about twenty feet aft of them.
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📝 Foredeck
6 years ago by 🇨🇦 Gdaynorm ( Warrant Officer)
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Hi Doug,
How does this look to you? Still working on the guard rails.
How does this look to you? Still working on the guard rails.
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💬 Foredeck
6 years ago by 🇨🇦 Gdaynorm (
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Thanks. Had not forgotten the big capstan, and there may have been four 14lb guns but difficult to tell from photos. I can alter the base plates for the anchor winches easily enough.
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💬 Foredeck
6 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich (
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Hi Norm, not bad 👍
Coupla points: 1 Weren't the two capstans on the stb side mounted on the same base plate? See attached GA drawing. 2 And there seems to be a slightly larger general purpose capstan on the centre line slightly forward of the anchor winches, and a few other 'doodads' dotted about the foredeck. 3 The hawser pipes should be more elongated and angled towards the hull side. Neat work nevertheless😉 Cheers Doug 😎 PS: the bollards on the port side seem to be just forward of the anchor winch.
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📝 guardrails
6 years ago by 🇨🇦 Gdaynorm ( Warrant Officer)
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I have always painted guardrails to whatever grey the vessel is in 1e home fleet, mediterranean etc. But in one photo of Dreadnought they look darker, maybe black. Anyone have an opinion?
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5 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich (
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Hi Norm,
I believe they (splinter padding) were grey, but I have also seen tan on other ships. Mostly WW2 though, like the Flower class corvettes. Maybe tan in peacetime grey at war!? Cheers, Doug 😎 
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5 years ago by 🇨🇦 Gdaynorm (
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Odd query.
Canvas dodgers. Grey or tan? Tan looks better on a model - gives some contrast to the eternal grey, but better to be correct. ▲
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6 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich (
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Go grey young man ! 😉
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