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๐ฌ Re: Robbe PT15 cabin and bridge..from scratch...
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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Iโm using CA for the wood to styrene. I scuff the plastic at the joint to promote bonding. Iโll probably strengthen some of the joints with Stabilit.
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๐ฌ Re: Robbe PT15 cabin and bridge..from scratch...
4 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Super job Cash.๐
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๐ฌ Re: Robbe PT15 cabin and bridge..from scratch...
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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I reckon that's pretty damn good Cash๐
Especially for a first effort with plasticard. Reminds me of the way I built the superstructure for my H class destroyer all those years ago. 0.5mm ply and 3mm square section obeche stiffeners back then, but the method was exactly the same๐ KUTGW. Looking forward to seeing PT15 back in action on the Red River Patrol. BTW: warn Lt jg Errol that the Fleet Admiral has his eye on him๐ค We don't like junior officers with ATTITUDE !!๐ Ten days reduced Catnip rations! Cheers, Fleet ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Robbe PT15 cabin and bridge..from scratch...
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Looking good cash,
What glue did you use to join the balsa wood to the plastic.? Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Bridge
4 years ago by ๐ฟ๐ฆ redpmg ( Commodore)
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Hi Cash - looking great so far - doing very well for a first scratch build in styrene. Looks like the build will be as good as original. Re the windows - does not seem to be much point in having them unless you detail inside - you could add frames from fine styrene strip to add a bit more realism - and perhaps add a clear view ring in one from a piece of round tubing.
While looking through another site for something else came across a reference to a PT 15 Superstructure - lo & behold another case of lost superstructure and another scratch build - so its been a problem before. Unfortunately had to shut down and now cant remember which site - if its important can search again ▲
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Remove Ads ๐ฌ Re: The Bridge
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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Yeah Doug I see your point. But, I know my limitations, and to be quite honest, Iโm surprised it looks as good as it does.
There might be a workaround to this whole thing however. Got ideas, yโknow๐ Oh...about the magnets. I used craft store magnets that obviously were not up to the task. Also, I may have not had the right size to begin with. Thatโs another thing Iโm going to re-engineer, along with getting the balance right. I think I know what my problem was, as this boat calls for 8 cells, and I was setting her up for 6 cells or 2 Lipos. She looked okay in the tub, but Iโm pretty sure I need to add at least 3-4 ozs in the stern to keep her stern planted and stable. Weโll see. Cash ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Bridge
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Meanwhile ... Back at the Blockhouse!๐
So far so good Cash๐ You know, I can understand your excuses .. er justification .. for not fitting proper windows but, if you're anything like me it will bug you in future, especially at the lakeside๐ค Can't see that the windows would substantially weaken that 'box' structure. Perhaps in fact the contrary? Surely just like a good weld in steel is stronger than the plate around it a plastic window 'welded' into the structure with the right solvent glue ought to strengthen rather than weaken. Just a thought. I still get one now and again๐ Cheers, Doug ๐ PS Don't forget the magnets this time!!๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Superstructure assembled
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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Thank you Martin.
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๐ฌ Re: Superstructure assembled
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Looking good cash.
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๐ฌ Re: Dance of the Fiddly Bits!!
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง marky ( Commodore)
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Hi Cash ,
Great job ,you and your family stay safe (and the cats). Cheers Marky๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Dance of the Fiddly Bits!!
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi cash,
It is surprising what you can make from Lego. You are doing a great job. Keep it up. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: More fiddly bits!
4 years ago by ๐ฟ๐ฆ redpmg ( Commodore)
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When you have completed it Cash sure it will be hard to distinguish from the original - making a really good job of it.
Stay well away from your customers and please wear a mask & gloves - want to see more of your builds in future. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: More fiddly bits!
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi cash,
That is really starting to look like the original. Well done. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Attack of the Fiddly Bits!!
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Martin. Donโt know about scratch building right now, but I can see it happening in the course of time. However, I have 2 Deans Marines kits in my stash, a โWacht Am Rheinโ that I got in a trade, partially built but has quite a bit left to do, and a new โCanned Heatโ PBR. Looking at the plans I can see where what Iโve done an learned so far will be a big help building those two kits.
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Cash,
After you have completed this i can see you will be doing a lot more scratch building projects. Great work. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Attack of the Fiddly Bits!!
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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Thanks!! The handrails were painted gray on the original. I had painted the bridge then painted each detail added as I installed them, or after. I had to touch up the bridge several times to correct scratches, etc from various installs. My reasoning now is to install everything thatโs supposed to be gray now, with the exception of the mast, then give the structure several light coats, touch up where needed, then install the mast and other non gray components. Think itโll come out better that way.
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๐ฌ Re: Attack of the Fiddly Bits!!
4 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Really coming on well. Will you remove all of the handrails for painting.
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๐ฌ Re: Fiddly Bits on the Roof...(yeah, itโs a stretch)
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sorreeee!๐
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4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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Fleet, sad to say Iโve not seen the posts the lifting problem was discussed. The Tamiya paints are a synthetic lacquer, I primered the hull donโt remember if I primered the superstructure. Only trouble Iโve had is some of the brass parts I had to redo originally, but I had decanted some of the spray paint and brushed it on. The whole thing will get several light coats of TS26 Tamiya after a light scuffing with 1000 grit. Might have to scrounge up another can of primer this week.
Cash PS...donโt know if the cabin can be lit as the bridge is solidly glued on and access...hm..wait, I could come in from underneath in the main structure....Doggone it Fleet you did it to me again๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ PPS..โlifting processโ...Bwahahaha!! Iโll keep that twixt you, me and the forum lest one of us limps for a while..๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fiddly Bits on the Roof...(yeah, itโs a stretch)
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Whoooo? Li'l ol' meee!?๐ฎ๐
Now that's what I call 'Pushing 'limits' Cash๐ Wasn't sure if you would risk it, but I'm sure you'll be glad you did - WHEN it's done and dusted๐ Especially if you illuminate the wheelhouse.๐ก BTW: Before you rush into your first coat of Tamiya grey I strongly recommend that you precede it with a thin coat of light grey primer. That should help prevent any of the 'lifting' problems that Martin555 and others experienced. (Unless of course 'the Commodore' is looking for a new 'lifting process'! ๐๐) (Good that we have the Atlantic between us!!๐ฎ) Since you've built with styrene use plastic primer if you can, especially if the styrene wasn't prepared by lightly rubbing down with a 600 - 1000 wet n dry, e.g. Tamiya sponge. But any other 'normal', e.g. auto primer will do. Also cheaper than Tamiya paint for showing up any defects which need filling/sanding etc.๐ In view of the alacrity of your repairs Fleet Command will defer a decision on holding a General Court until they are completed, and waive it on successful completion of Sea Trials and commissioning into active service. Carry on Sub. That reminds me, I believe your next Promotion Board is coming up soon .... ๐ Cheers, FLEET// ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Up Before the Mast!!
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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Goodish news on the job, but my advice is submerge yourself in the family and modeling, It will all come right eventually, keep smilling.
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4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Liked the work you've done there Cash๐ but not the news๐
The employment laws (or lack of them and social insurance) are the main reasons I turned down a transfer to the US, (Lake Success, Long Island, New York) in '87 and decided to stay in Munich. Never regretted it. Best of luck for the future๐ค enjoy your extended workshop time. Helps to take the mind off the damn bugs!โ๏ธโ๏ธโ๏ธ Cheers, Doug ๐ PS Message from Chief of Staff: Your fictitious salary as Sub Lieutenant in our fictitious Texas Navy Detachment will continue to be paid into your fictitious Cayman Island account for the duration of the emergency ๐ FLEET// ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Up Before the Mast!!
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Cash,
I bet you are enjoying making this instead of assembling the kit. You get more satisfaction knowing that you made all of it. Really looking good. Well done. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Up Before the Mast!!
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง marky ( Commodore)
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Sorry forgot to say ,the mast and superstructure are looking great .
Cheers again Marky๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Up Before the Mast!!
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง marky ( Commodore)
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Sorry to hear about your work ,lots in the UK in the same boat ,if your furlouged here the government will pay upto 80% of your salary to a maximum of ยฃ2500 per month ,a bit more tricky if your self employed where the formulas a bit weird and difficult according to my brother.
Stay safe and try to enjoy the time with your family. Cheers Marky๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Up Before the Mast!!
4 years ago by ๐ฟ๐ฆ redpmg ( Commodore)
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Sorry to hear about your work problem Cash - one wonders how many are in the same boat. At least you are taking a positive view of it . We are in pretty much the same situation as all Laser orders have stopped and better half's small business is closed for the duration - so both her part time employees have no income either.
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๐ฌ Re: Hauled Up Before the Mast...Again!
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Cash,
Looking good๐ "Doohickey" is not exactly unknown to us Pommes either๐ Probably imported by the USAF, or maybe my Dad picked it up during his Thor Missile training in the States in '58? Anyway, your spidery doohickey at the top of the mast is not part of a radar. Looks more to me like the ground plane (i.e. electrical counterbalance) for a coaxial UHF antenna. The actual antenna being the thick stub above the spider. See attached pics of such antennas from Rohde & Schwarz, which I used extensively in my naval ship COMMS system designs. The E version being the later one with extended frequency range for DATALINK compatibility. There was always a departmental 'fight', COMMS, ESM, Radar, for prime position at the top of the mast to get maximum range๐ The 'trombone slide' on the starboard boom looks like a VHF folded dipole for Low Band VHF. The 'downpipe' on the port boom is probably a straightforward VHF High Band dipole. What I miss is a couple of 5 or 7m, maybe even 10m (30ft), HF whip or rod antennas? And of course, MOST important, the combi TV and AM/FM radio antenna!!๐ Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Very good work cash.
I like the โdoohickeyโ I bet you are really enjoying making this. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Hauled Up Before the Mast...Again!
4 years ago by ๐ฟ๐ฆ redpmg ( Commodore)
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Hi Cash - if anything that superstructure is going to look better than the original - really good work you are doing there.
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