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    Row, row, row, yet another boat
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    ๐Ÿ“ Row, row, row, yet another boat
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    In response to Martin's call for more blogs to help see us through the isolation brought on by Covid-19 I thought I'd start this one.

    For a while now I have been thinking about building a rowing boat. I like the idea and the challenge trying to build something that moves using oars and looks right. There are several videos on YouTube. I especially like the attached one.

    But where to start? I have been collecting materials over the past few months but haven't started to build anything yet. The plan is to control the oars with servos and electronics, two servos on each oar. A microchip to control the servos to give the rowing motion and to allow control of speed and direction. 'Throttle' and 'rudder' inputs from the radio gear.

    As for the dingy I have found the attached plan which is a possibility if I scale it down. The rower will be an Action Man (acquired from ebay for 99p!) so the dingy scale will be around 1/6 to suit the rower.

    That is as far as I have got. Anyone here with experience of this sort of model? I would welcome advice from anyone who has tried this sort of thing. Is the dingy plan I found a good starting point or is there a better way? Can I simply scale the plan down to 1/6 by reducing all the dimensions pro-rata, or is there something I'm missing?

    http://www.fao.org/3/y5649e/y5649e00.htm
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Row, row, row, yet another boat
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Doug,
    That has now got me thinking now.
    Depending on how big the scale is i am sure i will be able to find something.
    My next move will be to keep a close eye on Grahams build log for more information on scale and control.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Row, row, row, yet another boat
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Graham,
    "Can I simply scale the plan down to 1/6 by reducing all the dimensions pro-rata, ..."
    Yes you can! (As the proverbial actress said to the bishop!๐Ÿ˜ฎ)
    Oops! Another slapped wrist๐Ÿ˜Œ
    AS LONG as you make sure that what you are measuring is the true 'plan' view dimension, and not something sloping away from the viewpoint, which would thus be foreshortened.
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Row, row, row, yet another boat
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "I will have to look around to see what i can make it out of first."
    Will about a dozen Kerrygold tubs do Martin?
    I've set them aside too, complete with diamond tread pattern foils.
    Yes they were in the dishwasher first!!๐Ÿ˜
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Row, row, row, yet another boat
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    That sounds like a good idea Doug.
    I will have to look around to see what i can make it out of first.

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Row, row, row, yet another boat
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง G6SWJ ( Midshipman)
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    Great videos


    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Row, row, row, yet another boat
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "I will be following this with great interest as i would love to make one myself."
    Then I guess you'll soon be needing the micro servos I've set aside for you Martin.
    Let me know when you plan on starting, will it be a 'fun break' between driving yourself nuts with teeny weeny pillows and coffee pots?๐Ÿค“
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Row, row, row, yet another boat
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Jacko,

    Thatโ€™s an alternative approach using a mechanical solution to producing the rowing motion. Iโ€™m better at electronics than I am at making cams,so Iโ€™m going to attempt an electronic version. Iโ€™ve written some of the code for the microchip already so the next task is to rig up a test bed with the servos so I can see if the movement is anything close to realistic.
    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Row, row, row, yet another boat
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Graham,
    I too have an Acton man that has sat around for many years.
    I will be following this with great interest as i would love to make one myself.

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Row, row, row, yet another boat
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง jacko ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    i did this


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    ๐Ÿ“ Test Rig
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    In order to be able to develop and test the electronics I decided to build a test rig for the rowing action. Each oar is connected to two servos to produce the desired movement. As a quick trial I connected one pair of servos to the receiver and tried to control the oar with two channels on one joystick on the transmitter. Not very easy to get anything like realistic movement๐Ÿ™„. I can see that this is going to be a long and challenging project!

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Test Rig
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง G6SWJ ( Midshipman)
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    I am in awe of this one - Hats off to this inventor - looks like some sort of clutch/cam arrangement - all that from just 2 servos and no microcontroller!!!

    Jonathan
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Test Rig
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง G6SWJ ( Midshipman)
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    This looks a very interesting movement - mainly linear

    Jonathan
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Test Rig
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Clever looking rig Graham, tricky action to get right!
    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Test Rig
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Doug,

    โ€œFor speed control I figured that instead of servos two miniature reversible motors with ESCs might do the trick.โ€

    The problem with using two independent motors is that you need to synchronise the speed and the phase between the motors to keep the oars working together when trying to go in a straight line. Really difficult to achieve and maintain that synchronisation unless you have some form of feedback (optical encoders?) I think on balance, using servos is probably going to be easier.
    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Test Rig
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Jonathan,

    Thanks for the Pololu link. I hadnโ€™t come across those before. They look really interesting and flexible. If my current controller plans donโ€™t work out, they look like a good alternative.

    Iโ€™m planning on using a PIC 16f microchip programmed in Assembler code. When I started work in the early 70s my first job was programming a PDP11 in assembler as a CNC system for a lathe. After that I moved on to program a whole range of different processors for different applications, but always in assembler. I never really graduated to any higher level languages.

    The programming is coming along well, I might have something that I can connect to the test rig later this week.
    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Test Rig
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Mornin' Cap'n,
    Now that's a neat idea Nerys!
    Problem with paddling as such would be shifting the paddle from one side to the other๐Ÿค” Otherwise, especially considering the form of a coracle, he would just spin on the spot. Until he gets dizzy and falls overboard๐Ÿ˜ฎ
    BUT, now you've triggered my hyperactive imagination!
    I could envisage a larger 'two man' coracle -
    with you and Alice paddling it ๐Ÿ˜€
    As far as possible in these topsy turvy times, HAVE A GOOD DAY U2๐Ÿ‘
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Test Rig
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    You are right Doug, nothing I haven't seen before. I remember my son having a half clothed Action Man.

    I'm following this with interest , I haven't seen many model rowing boats, but always think how clever their builders must be.

    On that theme, What I would like to build would be a man paddling a coracle, but I'm afraid the mechanics would be way beyond me.

    Cheers, Nerys
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Test Rig
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "At least he kept his pants on ๐Ÿ˜Š"
    Even if he hadn't Graham, I don't suppose he'd be showing anything that our esteemed Captain hadn't seen before ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ™ˆ๐Ÿ™Š

    I'll be intrigued to see which way you finally go with your rowing machine.
    However good the electronics are you can't avoid some good mechanics for it to actuate! That's the tricky part๐Ÿค”
    For steering I've been considering two micro switches on a micro servo to simply disconnect power to one side or the other as required, the opposite side to the direction you want to turn.
    For speed control I figured that instead of servos two miniature reversible motors with ESCs might do the trick.
    Thinking further; using 'tank control' one could steer by decelerating one side!?
    To spin on the spot reverse one side!?
    That'd tax the coordination of any rower!!๐Ÿค•
    Been trying to visualise the movement required:-
    Lift - Back - Dip - Stroke; Lift - Back ... etc etc.
    Good luck๐Ÿคž
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Test Rig
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง G6SWJ ( Midshipman)
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    Hi Graham,

    Great project....

    I scratched the surface of this 3 years ago - but did not progress it very far.

    I was going to "reverse engineer" things a little.

    I intended to move the oars manually to get the shape of the movement whilst connected to the servo's and read/capture the servo position/time electronically which could then in theory be reproduced.

    What controller are you using?

    Are you familiar with the Pololu Maestro Servo Controller range? - would be a doddle using scripts. The Maestro can then be controlled via a serial link from your microcontroller


    https://www.pololu.com/docs/0J40/all#4.c
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Test Rig
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    MouldBuilder,

    โ€œDo you think Action Man should be wearing a shirt. Nerys might see the blog.โ€

    Ha Ha!! Hadnโ€™t thought about that. I do hope I havenโ€™t got anyoneโ€™s pulse racing ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚

    Fact is he worked up quite a sweat from trying to get the oars working like they should. Rest assured he will be fully clothed for his first trip out to the pond..

    At least he kept his pants on ๐Ÿ˜Š
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Test Rig
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks Martin,

    Iโ€™d seen the IOM video, that has been part of my inspiration to attempt this. The GoPro video was new to me. I might have to adopt that arrangement of linkages as Iโ€™m not sure that the current one will work.

    Graham93
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Graham.
    That looks an interesting setup.
    Do you think Action Man should be wearing a shirt. Nerys might see the blog.๐Ÿ˜€
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Graham,
    Just seen this.
    Some different types of mechanisms.


    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Test Rig
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Graham.
    This is getting interesting already.
    I am closely following your progress.

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ“ First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    It has taken a week to write the controller software, but I now have it sort of working.

    I'm using a FlySky FS-RX2a receiver which outputs all control channels as a string of pulses on a single wire. That connects to the PIC based controller. Software in the controller decodes the string of pulses to extract the 'throttle' and 'rudder' commands. These are used in the rest of the software to control the rate of rowing and, eventually, the direction. So far, the software only controls the oars for rowing in a straight line. The 'throttle' input does control the rate of rowing although it does attempt to row far too fast. I know the oarsman will be Action Man, but I don't think even he would have enough stamina to maintain the rate at which it can row! There is more development needed to slow the rate of rowing, and to use the 'rudder' commands to control the direction.

    The video shows the action at a reasonable rowing rate ๐Ÿ˜€

    Graham93

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    They're 'new eggs' for me Graham๐Ÿ‘
    Can see I'm gonna have to investigate this PIC business.
    CU in six months๐Ÿ˜‰
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    BTW The kids here don't suck their eggs.
    They blow them ๐Ÿ˜ฎ and then paint them for Easter decorations!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Red,

    "don't understand how this works nor even know what an Arduino is"

    I'll try to explain the basics of this controller as others here may also be interested.

    First of all, Arduino is a small module (there are several versions) which can be programmed to carry out all sorts of tasks, not just model related. Several members here use them for lighting controls etc. I have no experience with using Arduino but what I use (PIC) is capable of being programmed to carry out similar tasks.

    In terms of the rowing controller, just consider a single oar to start with. It has two servos to control its movement, one to dip the oar into the water, and one for the stroke, to pull and push it. If those two servos were connected directly to a receiver on channels corresponding to a two axis joystick, then it would be possible to create the rowing movement by moving the joystick round in a square, from bottom left to bottom right then top right to top left and back to the start. If the two servos for the other oar were connected to the second joystick on the transmitter, then in theory it would be possible to control the rowing of both oars to go forwards, backwards and turn by moving both joysticks simultaneously. However the coordination needed to do this would be difficult. That is where the rowing controller comes into its own.

    The rowing controller simulates the movement of each joystick by generating signals for the servos similar to those that would be produced by moving a joystick round in a square movement. The advantage of the controller is it can simulate the movements of two joysticks better than I can manually, and it can also adjust one 'joystick' relative to the other to control the direction of rowing. At least it will once I have that part of the program running - it is nearly there.

    Sorry if any of the above is teaching anyone to 'suck eggs'

    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง marky ( Commodore)
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    "Ohms law" that takes me back a few years haven't used it since day release at technical college,along with other things we learnt that I would never use again "binomial expansion " just another of many that comes to mind.
    Cheers Marky๐Ÿ‘
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Mornin' Red,
    "Cant even remember Ohms law and how to apply it!"

    Herr Ohm he say-
    Current (I A) flowing in a resistive load (R Ohms) is proportional to the voltage (V) applied across it. I=V/R. Conversely V=IR or R=V/I.
    The latter being very useful for calculating dropping resistors for LEDs of various max current ratings and supply voltages๐Ÿ˜Š
    DC Power (P Watts) dissipated in the load equals volts applied x current drawn. P=IV.
    Thus P=(V/R)V =Vยฒ/R or IยฒR. Helps to define the resistor size (power rating) you need; e.g. 1/8, 1/4 Watt etc.
    Alles klar Herr Kommissar? ๐Ÿ˜
    Now where did I put my pink gin? ... "JEEVES!"
    ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฆ redpmg ( Commodore)
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    Make sure its the heavy duty tinfoil JB - thin stuff the aliens can penetrate .........
    Graham starting to look great movement wise - as a total waste of space on electronics don't understand how this works nor even know what an Arduino is - sorely miss my electronics pal who left for Oz a few years ago.........
    (Cant even remember Ohms law and how to apply it!)
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Stand easy Commodore๐Ÿ‘
    Sun's over the yardarm - break out the pink gin!
    Cheers, FLEET// ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Re-A word to the wise๐Ÿ˜‰

    Sorry sir , consider myself thoroughly chastised, I'll try to do better next time๐Ÿ˜ Probably not a good choice of words either (re reply to martin)๐Ÿ˜
    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Escrich

    "Can i have the Arduino program to have a look into? "

    I am not using Arduino for this. The controller is based on a Microchip Pic16F processor and the program is written in MPASM assembler code.

    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ Escrich ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Can i have the Arduino program to have a look into?
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi JB,
    A word to the wise๐Ÿ˜‰
    "Just put it up Martin, should be there now."
    It would be extremely helpful if you copied the link to your Blog into such posts.
    Saves us spending half the day looking for it๐Ÿ™„
    At least the exact Blog / Thread title would help speed things up๐Ÿ‘
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Just put it up Martin, should be there now.
    JB
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I have done a quick search in the build logs for airboat but nothing comes up.
    I am probably doing something wrong again.

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Here's something more to think about Martin (in blog section) an airboat I started 10yrs ago, but house remodeling got in the way, and it's been gathering dust ever since. Any thoughts on styling ? come on, you know you want to๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ It's going to be fast electric.
    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Jb,
    I am going to have to stop reading your post because i end up thinking of all sorts of different projects LOL!

    Ref:- "tinfoil thinking cap is on 24/7 (stops the aliens stealing any more of my brain").

    Its to late for me my brain went years ago.LL!
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Re-Graham and Jb the perfect combination to sort out this little problem

    If I think of anything Martin I'll let him know, I've got plenty to keep me amused at the moment, (yacht, plane, airboat) and we don't want him to do it too quickly, or he might end up with nothing to do๐Ÿ˜ Plenty of Corona time to go yet ๐Ÿ˜€ but tinfoil thinking cap is on 24/7 (stops the aliens stealing any more of my brain)๐Ÿ˜
    Perhaps a doubles scull for the next project after the SUB.5 Martin? I know you want to, L๐Ÿ˜‚L
    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "(or small geared motors) with ball ends on the rods could make the action smoother, as you could remove the 'stops' and just adjust the individual speeds for turning."
    That's the way I was thinking JB๐Ÿ‘ See above, somewhere.
    I have a pair of titchy geared motors I actually bought to test for special functions on my warships; turrets, gun directors and cranes an stuff. But now ... thinks!
    As Graham mentioned above synchronicity is the main problem to be overcome ...Hmmm!๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ’ก
    BTW Please don't go 'rowing' with your better halves during the current incarceration ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿค•
    (Think I'm going Stir Crazy๐Ÿ˜)
    ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Graham and Jb the perfect combination to sort out this little problem.
    Good luck guys.

    When you have got this licked then maybe a simple version for us mortals LOL!!

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: First Faltering Strokes
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Can see this will keep you amused through lockdown Graham. Coming along nicely. No doubt you've already thought of it, but perhaps 360deg servos (or small geared motors) with ball ends on the rods could make the action smoother, as you could remove the 'stops' and just adjust the individual speeds for turning. You've got me going now and I have 2 perfect drives (ex Heng Long smoker pumps ).......๐Ÿ˜
    JB
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks Peter,

    The pauses are not deliberate, the controller is just trying to figure out where to go next. Good idea though, Iโ€™ll look to add some pauses to the end of the strokes, once Iโ€™ve solved the steering challenge..
    Graham93
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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    Great video. The action is realistic. What appears almost to be pauses at the end of each stroke looks particularly good.
    Peter.๐Ÿ‘
    ๐Ÿ“ Bionic Rower
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Action man needed some surgery to make him into bionic man. The body was dismembered using a cutting disc in the Dremel. These figures are very tough, the plastic is thick and takes some cutting through.

    Having got him apart, a subframe (skeleton?) was produced on which two servos are mounted. One servo rocks the body back and forth during rowing, the other turns the head.

    He has a new sweater, courtesy of my dear wife, who is as mad as I am ๐Ÿ˜‚.

    The controller has also been updated to improve the rowing action, and to enable steering. Three transmitter channels are used, one for rowing speed, one for steering, and the final one to control the head turning. I'm using the tiny FS - Rx2a receiver which does not support telemetry back to the transmitter so there is no indication of battery charge. The controller is capable of monitoring battery voltage, but I need some means of indicating when the charge is low. Current thought is to get the rower to shake his head to the left and right as it would be more entertaining than turning a LED on, or sounding a buzzer. Anyone got any better suggestions? I'm open to ideas?

    Graham93

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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Graham,

    "I do have a few other ideas in mind"
    Sounds interesting.
    I think the main problem with making miniature boats is the battery size and weight, and of corse the small servos and receiver.

    Martin555.
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Not all miniatures, Martin. The rowing boat will be 36โ€. Sadly that means I wonโ€™t be able to try it out until the
    lockdown ends. It will fit in the plastererโ€™s bath for flotation testing, but not with the oars!

    I do have a few other ideas in mind that might be suitable as miniatures. But I must finish the ones Iโ€™ve already started first...

    Graham93
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    A fleet of miniatures ?
    At least they don't take up a lot of room.

    Martin555.
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks Phil,

    Trying to keep busy. At this rate Iโ€™m going to have a full fleet of new models by the time we can get back to the Pavillion Gardens๐Ÿ˜

    Hope you are well, stay safe
    Graham93
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง philcaretaker ( Commodore)
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    Sure looks a rugged dude graham ! - look forward to seeing in the flesh - hope you and yours all well !๐Ÿ‘
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง marky ( Commodore)
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    Absolutely brilliant Graham ,faster though the captain wants to water ski .
    Cheers Marky๐Ÿ‘
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Yes but you have private patients LOL!!!

    Martin555.
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks Martin,

    โ€œAs a fellow Doctor i would like to say that is some major surgery you performed there.โ€

    Does that make us both โ€˜plastic surgeons โ€˜? ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ

    Graham93
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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    Well done Graham. The action is very realistic. I had no idea you were making Action Man into the Bionic Man.
    I do not think I will be trying this at home.๐Ÿ˜Š
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks JB

    Now to the difficult bit, building a dingy from scratch, using timber I can find in the shed!

    Graham93
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Doctor Graham,
    As a fellow Doctor i would like to say that is some major surgery you performed there.
    A very tricky operation indeed.
    And i am glad to see that your patient has made a full recovery.
    It is good to see he is using the special equipment provided to build up his stamina and muscle strength and soon he will be able to take on his task to row across the local pond.

    I am also looking forward to seeing him and his boat in action.

    I must congratulate your wife on knitting his jumper.
    You both have done an excellent.
    Well done.

    Martin555.
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    That is brilliant Graham,! now for the boat to top it off. Looking forward to seeing him on the water!
    JB
    ๐Ÿ“ Dinghy construction
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    I searched for a suitable set of plans to build the dinghy and found an excellent technical paper on the FAO website. Having never built a dinghy before, this paper gives all the dimensions and full construction details so it was ideal for me as a dinghy novice.

    There are a range of different sizes from 5.2M to 8.5M in the plan. I decided to use the details for the 5.2M boat, scaled down to 1/6th scale to suit the size of the bionic rower. I also decided to build the model using the same construction techniques and materials as the full sized boats. Partly for the challenge, but mostly because it means I can just follow the instructions! The frames will be oak, left over from a recent furniture project, and the planking mahogany salvaged from old furniture.

    An evening was spent with a calculator and red pen, reducing all the dimensions on the plan to 1/6th scale. The full (scale) size frame outlines were then drawn on a sheet of white faced hardboard and the transom and frames assembled by nailing the pieces to the hardboard outline and gluing all the joints. The stem was assembled in the same way, cut from oak and jointed over an outline drawn on hardboard. The softwood braces are temporary and will be removed later in the build

    The joints on the full sized boat are bolted with 8mm galvanised coach bolts. I couldn't find any suitable bolts of the right scale. 1.5mm would be approximately correct, but the ones I could find were not long enough. In the end I opted for 3mm button head hex bolts. This made drilling the frame sections difficult as there was not much room for error. Once construction is complete, and visible bolt heads will have the hex socket filled with epoxy and then painted to make the bolt heads look like coach bolts.

    Graham93

    http://www.fao.org/3/y5649e/y5649e00.htm
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Nothing like a challenge, sure you'll sort it, as like me you won't let it beat you๐Ÿ˜
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks JB,

    I think it should look the part when completed. The big question mark is will it work? I.e. will the rower make it move as it should? Itโ€™s going to be a bit big to just be a static model ๐Ÿ˜†.

    Graham93
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I can tell this is going to be good Graham
    JB
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks Mike. I couldnโ€™t find anything 30mm long in sizes less than M3, either BA or metric. My local model engineering supplier doesnโ€™t have anything that long in BA sizes. I considered using threaded rod, but it is quite expensive in small sizes. The M3 screws I found are OK, just have to be really careful drilling through the thin sections.

    Graham93
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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    Graham sorry to be late with this suggestion but I would have used BA nuts and bolts there are loads of suppliers for the model steam enthusiasts with some really long examples, I've use them on the crash tender where required, however your making a great job of it keep it up
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Good job your name is Graham then, isn't it Graham๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘
    ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Dinghy construction
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฆ redpmg ( Commodore)
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    Nice one Graham - its going to look good when completed.
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks Doug, but you know what they say โ€œ Jack of all trades, master of noneโ€!

    Graham93
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Very nice Graham.
    I do like to see this being made in the proper way.
    Look forward to seeing more.

    Martin555.
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Joe727 ( Commander)
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    Graham,
    It's really nice to see the boat being built using actual construction techniques and materials. I look forward to watching your progress. Great photos, thanks for sharing.
    Joe ๐Ÿ‘
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Excellent woodwork Graham๐Ÿ‘
    A man of many talents! Respect.
    Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ“ Building Jig
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    The dinghy is built inverted on a building jig. The plans include full details for construction of a jig based on 4x2 and 6x1 timber. Rather that scale all the timber dimensions down to 1/6th scale and build the jig out of timber sections I decided to take a shortcut and build the jig from salvaged chipboard panels. This simply involved cutting the panels to size on the table saw and screwing them together using chipboard screws. Much quicker and stronger for a temporary construction.

    Once the jig was assembled, the frames were attached and a couple of battens nailed across the top of the frames to hold them steady.

    One consideration having built this solid boxed-in jig is that once the dinghy is complete it will be necessary to remove it from the jig. Many of the fixings will no longer be accessible as they will be covered by the hull. This would not have been an issue if the jig had been constructed from timber sections rather than chipboard panels. I have tried to ensure that once the dinghy is complete, enough screws will still be accessible to allow removal of the dinghy from the jig, but time will tell if I got that right ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿคž.

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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Looking good Graham, this is making me want to build another full sized fast delta like the 15ft one I built in 72, powered by a 75hp outboard. Built it a similar way on a jig, and screwed the bulkheads/frames to the jig with right angle brackets, so when I flipped the hull over I could unscrew the hull from the jig and lift the jig out.
    JB
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง peewit ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi,

    Thanks.

    Yes used tea and coffey before. The reason I use acrylics sometimes is that I need an exact match to other rigging nd I have sort of got into the habit.

    On a few of occasions over the years I have been asked to renovate very old statics for museums for display. You cannot and indeed shouldnโ€™t replace any more than you actually have to on things like that, you need to conserve as much of the original as possible.

    With acrylics I can play about with things until I get it exactly right. I also then have a small bottle of an exact colour match in store for if I need to do more work on the boat at another time. This I usually give to the museum with notes on things so that if anybody else does it they know where I was coming from.

    I do the same with wood stains. I have a stock of different wood water stains that I mix up to get exactly what I want. Again this is a trick I got from an Anteques restorer years ago.

    You use such small amounts usually that the โ€œsampleโ€ selection that I got from White friers in little bottles years ago is still in use. When I have needed more of any colour I get it by the big bottle and decant it as necessary.
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks for the suggestion Martin. I think Iโ€™ve sort of done that mentally to check it will be OK. There is just that small niggle that I may have missed something

    Graham93
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Graham,
    you could always cover the frames with a paper skin temporally so that it looks like the completed boat to see if you can get at all of the screws to release the hull.

    Martin555.
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Joe727 ( Commander)
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    Good luck with the jig, I like the use of scrap chip material.
    Joe
    ๐Ÿ“ Hog, Chines and Intermediate frames
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    The Hog runs along the centre of the dinghy from the stem to the transom. It is bolted to the stem, frames and transom.

    Once the Hog was in place the hull was strong enough to allow the sides of the frames to be chamfered so that the planking will lay flat across the frame edges. Notches were then cut into the corner of the frames to allow the chines to be bolted on. Drilling the long bolt holes through the chines and frames while sighting the drill by eye proved to be very tricky. I think they came out OK, but won't be able to see how well the bolt heads are centred in the frame members until I remove the hull from the building jig.

    With the chines in place, time for more chamfering, this time the hog and chines were chamfered so that the floor planking will lay flat across them.

    The planking will be 3mm mahogany. Four planks 24mm wide are needed for each side. Fortunately, the mahogany boards I have are 1" thick so I just needed to slice thin strips off the board edge. The first two planks (the sheerplanks) were nailed and glued across the frames, one on each side of the hull. I'm using 12mm brass nails which are only 0.5mm dia. Knocking these in through the mahogany, and into the oak without them bending proved to be a challenge. Eventually, I found that pre-drilling with a 0.4mm drill made the task viable.

    With the sheerplanks in place, 26 intermediate frames were cut and fitted between the main frames. The plan specifies that the intermediate frames should be bolted to the chines. I decided that this would not be practical at this scale as recessing the M3 nuts into the chine sections would weaken the chines significantly. It would also be a very tedious task. I had some nice brass gimp pins available, so these were used instead. It wasn't possible to hammer these in from inside the hull as there wasn't enough room to swing the hammer so they were driven home using a C clamp.

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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Graham,
    It sounds like he needs to be motivated.
    Tell him that Barbi and Sindy will go out for a drink with him and see what that will do LOL!!!!

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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    JB,

    It doesnโ€™t matter what I say to him, he just sits there watching and waiting. No attempt to help, even when another pair of hands would make things easier๐Ÿ˜. I have to be careful, my wife might say the same thing about me๐Ÿ˜Š ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ

    Graham93
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks Michael,

    Iโ€™m enjoying the build, and find myself wondering what it would be like to build a full size dinghy. It would certainly be easier to get tools into the right places. But I donโ€™t have the space, or the need for a full sized boat.. it would just be fun building it though....
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Don't let the rower sit around Graham, get him exercising ready for the big event๐Ÿ˜
    Looking great so far!
    JB
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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    Graham this is looking really nice with some really intricate woodworking skills. I've always enjoyed the woodworking part of model boat making.
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Mark,

    The clamps are โ€˜home madeโ€™ but not by me. I inherited them from my Dad and I think he possibly inherited them from work colleagues as they are stamped with different names.

    Graham93
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง marky ( Commodore)
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    Really nice Graham ,bet Bill can't wait to get the oars out๐Ÿ˜,the g clamps look like the type you used to make at school or technical college.
    Cheers Mark๐Ÿ‘
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks Martin,

    Starting to look like a boat.

    Itโ€™s approx 34โ€ long with a beam of 12โ€. Iโ€™m enjoying the woodworking, although it would be easier if my tools (and hands) were 1/6th scale.๐Ÿคฃ

    Bill the bionic rower has been chilling out during lockdown, no help whatsoever, but his time will come ๐Ÿ˜†

    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Hog, Chines and Intermediate frames
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Excellent work Graham.
    Looking really good so far.
    What are the dimensions working out to ?

    I see the Bionic Rower hasn't bothered to lift a finger to help you.

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ“ Side planking
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    The sides of the dinghy are planked with four mahogany planks on each side These are 3mm thick and 24mm wide. Fortunately I had suitable timber to allow each plank to run the full length of the boat, so no jointing was necessary.

    Each plank was butted against the previous one and a torch used from inside the hull to show any gaps. Once the gaps had been removed by careful planning and sanding, the plank was glued and pinned into place. Each plank required 57 pins, three into each of the frames.

    Once fitted, the final planks on each side were chamfered to match the chamfer on the chine in readiness for fitting the floorboards. The chamfer was not carried all the way to the front, as the floorboards at the front of the hull butt onto the side planks rather than lay over them.

    (photos in reverse order - I will get the hang of this eventually!)

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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    That's one solid looking dinghy, I think the nails will add to the external effect if they show slightly.
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks Marky, Mike,

    The electronics for this has proved to be a challenge, or rather the software that is embedded in the electronics. While Iโ€™ve got it working in the test rig, itโ€™s going to need lots of tuning once installed in the dinghy if it is to actually row as it should. I think Iโ€™m going to have to sort out a test tank big enough so I can test it at home before going to the lake with it.
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Red,

    โ€˜Be a shame to paint the mahogany - would look nice above the waterline โ€™

    Iโ€™ve focussed on trying to get the inside of the dinghy as clean and tidy as I can so I can varnish it. The outside has a few issues, especially with the nails. I would have to have taken much more care with the positioning of each nail if they were to be visible when itโ€™s finished. A few didnโ€™t drive in square either, which wonโ€™t matter when itโ€™s painted. I plan to paint it white, with mahogany trim which I think will look OK. Maybe next time, when Iโ€™ve finished this one as a practice piece ๐Ÿ˜
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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    This has got me drooling as I watch the progress, I am desperate to do a plank on frame, although this one may have me scratching my head with the electronics for the very athletic rower. we will have to see as the crash tender is coming to competition now.
    Absolutely fantastic Graham๐Ÿ‘
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง marky ( Commodore)
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    Looking very nice Graham.
    Cheers Marky๐Ÿ‘
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฆ redpmg ( Commodore)
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    Be a shame to paint the mahogany - would look nice above the waterline Graham - you are making a very good job of the Dinghy - Dumas advice on planking coloration was to use mahogany stain on the mahogany to deepen the colour . Perhaps you could test a small piece first . Also be nice painted on the inside - you can hide things better that way too !
    There I go teaching grandma again........
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Martin,

    The plan is to glasscloth and paint the outside, for strength and waterproofing. The inside will be clear epoxy 'varnished' - that's assuming it looks OK when I take it off the jig. If it looks a mess, I might have to paint it inside ๐Ÿ™„, but I really don't want to.

    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Side planking
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Nice work Graham,
    It is probably a bit early to ask, but in the end will it be painted or varnished ?

    Martin555.
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Bill the bionic rower hasn't been able to get to the barbers for the past 6 weeks during lockdown ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ

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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฆ redpmg ( Commodore)
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    Wonder what the slightly smutty film comedians would make of Head Reflocking - cant think of any name except Syd? James? or the Goons for that matter .....
    But it does make a great change Graham - as Martin would say Well Done !
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง marky ( Commodore)
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    "Head reflocking service "who would have thought, lots of enterprising people out there .๐Ÿ‘ด๐Ÿง”
    Cheers Mark๐Ÿ‘
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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    Hi Graham really impressed with the transformation and glad you gave details of the company.
    PS. I have booked myself in next week for the full works๐Ÿ˜
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "head reflocking' service"
    Do they do home visits if so i could get a two for one offer, One action man and me LOL!!!!

    You will have to get your wife to knit him a white Aron knit jumper as after a spell of rowing he will need a change of clothes.

    Martin555.
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Martin

    Glad you like him. I was hoping someone would ask how he aged so quickly ๐Ÿ˜Š

    I have to admit, I had some help. When I was searching the web for the Action man to be the basis of Bionic Bill I came across a 'head reflocking' service. A sort of reverse barber๐Ÿ˜†. So once the project was underway, and looking promising, I decided to invest and I sent his head off, with some photos of the sort of effect I was hoping to achieve. What came back was a cleaned up head complete with hair and beard, but not quite the look I was aiming for. I spent a few days looking at on-line turorials on model head painting and then got the acrylic paints out. I'm generally happy with the end result. Certainly an improvement on the original .

    Graham93
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Action-Man-Head-Re-Flocking-Service-Old-Heads
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Graham,
    I love it.
    Can you explain what and how you done it please.

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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Doug,

    Yes, itโ€™s only 6 weeks, but it certainly feels like 66 years๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜‚
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    ๐Ÿ˜ฎ 6 weeks or 66 YEARS!!๐Ÿ˜‰
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    ๐Ÿ“ Keel
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    The keel was cut in two pieces from oak. The rear section (deadwood?) was shaped to fit the curve of the bottom of the hull. Both pieces were glued and bolted to the hog.

    Oak battens were then fitted between the keel and chine to support the bottom planking. Notches were cut into the frames for the battens. A straight edge was used between the hog and chine to determine the depth of the notch in each frame such that the battens are set at the right level to support and attach to the bottom planking. The forward half of each batten is made from two thinner laminates to enable the batten to bend sufficiently to follow the curve of the hull. The battens are glued and pinned to the frames. The two laminates in each batten are also glued along their length. Waterway notches were cut into the battens at several points along their bottom face. Finally the forward section of the battens was flared into the stem to give a smooth support for the subsequent planking.

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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "I'm going to just paint the hull white."
    PLEASE DON'T DO THAT!!๐Ÿค”
    Just varnish it, and you don't need a waterline either.
    Just put a dirt and weed line if you must๐Ÿ˜‰
    Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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    Because it gives instruction on how to scribe the water line then we can assume it has one , I would think its just by different colours above and below , I can't ever remember seeing a rowing boat with a white line. I really wouldn't bother with one, as you say there's not much you can do about it but I'm sure it will be fine.
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks Martin, I'm going to just paint the hull white. Not decided how to mark the waterline.

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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Graham,
    From what i can see is not many have a water line painted, But here is one that dose.

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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Mike,

    Yes the plan has clear instructions on how to scribe the waterline. However, that does raise a question in my mind which I hope those with more experience than I on this site can help with. How is the waterline normally indicated on a dinghy? I don't think it is normal to use different colour anti-fouling paint below the waterline on a dinghy, or is it? Is the waterline marked in some other way?

    A second, and more difficult question, what target weight should I be aiming for? Martin's comments on the build looking heavy has got me a little concerned - not that there is much I can do about it!

    Thanks for the offer on the veneer, I'll keep it in mind.

    Graham93
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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    Does it have a water line defined in the plan ? Whatever it turns out to be I'm sure it will sit well in the water, as I said before Its making me jealous and feeling I need to be doing something similar.
    PS.
    When finishing the interior if you need any mahogany veneer, I have loads, your welcome to whatever you need.
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Graham,
    The amount of energy that Boinic Bill would of saved up
    He should be off like a speed boat on the day.LOL!!

    Martin555.
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Martin,

    It wonโ€™t be me rowing it! I keep telling bionic Bill that he needs to get fit, but he just sits there watching. LOL ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ

    Seriously, I donโ€™t know how heavy it is going to be. Wonโ€™t be able to weigh it until I release it from the building jig. Iโ€™m hoping Iโ€™ll be pleasantly surprised. Time will tell.

    Graham93
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    That looks like it is going to be heavy.
    You better start doing a bit of body building Graham LOL!!

    Martin555.
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