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๐ฌ Re: Dusseldorf Fire boat.๐ค Started today.
4 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Bruce.
In the early part of the build you will not really need the fittings kit. I am a long way into this build and I cannot remember using much from this kit yet. I am well into the special functions kit though. Peter.๐ ▲
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4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ bruce1946 ( Midshipman)
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in the upper right corner on shipping they have this statement This supply does not ship to the USA.
I got a letter from Krick the manufacturer saying they will have units by mid may after the 15th. ๐ค ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Dusseldorf Fire boat.๐ค Started today.
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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OK.
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๐ฌ Re: Dusseldorf Fire boat.๐ค Started today.
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ bruce1946 ( Midshipman)
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I have that kit thank you still working with Germany on getting Ro1101 thank you
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๐ฌ Re: Dusseldorf Fire boat.๐ค Started today.
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Bruce,
Haven't found the general fittings set (yet!) but here's the special function set๐ Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Dusseldorf Fire boat.๐ค Started today.
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ bruce1946 ( Midshipman)
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thank you I tried that one but ebay won't accept shipments to USA on this order
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๐ฌ Re: Dusseldorf Fire boat.๐ค Started today.
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi bruce,
I have found this. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Dusseldorf Fire boat.๐ค Started today.
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi bruce1946,
That is a nice project that you have started. Looking forward to more updates. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: day 3
4 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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I am quite a way along with this build. If you need specific help I will try my best to answer your questions.
The plans are not entirely correct and very often not good for scale. My first advice is check twice before gluing or drilling anything. Peter.๐ ▲
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4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ bruce1946 ( Midshipman)
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Krick has no parts and not expecting them to come in after the 15th of may. And they will only let me buy from supplier here in the USA Harbor models ( great supplier) and they can't get any either right now. I got most of my items through Cornwel models. I have been working thru Ebay with a supplier in Germany and ebay process is hard to work through. but think it's all worked out now (i hope).
Have been noticing the plans and instructions are kind of vague. there are not many dimensions on the plans on where the part sits on the boat. so will see how that goes. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: day 3
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Oh rapturous joy๐๐๐
Funny! Never thought of asking Yahoo for one!!๐ Hope more than the invoice arrives. Did you buy direct from Krick? They are usually pretty damn good on deliveries๐ ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: day 3
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Excellent news bruce1946.
I am glad you managed to get it sorted. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Day 4
4 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Bruce. I read somewhere that this model is challenging. I can confirm that this is indeed the case. I have found that if you remove all of the parts for a particular section and then carefully read the instructions placing parts as you go, all makes sense.
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๐ฌ Re: Day 4
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi bruce,
I am glad that you like a challenge. And i am sure you will soon get into the swing of it. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Day 5
4 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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I will use 3s LiPo batteries for the motors which will also supply the rx and servo power via the BEC output from the ESC.. Their power to weight/size ratio is very useful. I will decide on the 6 volt supply for the lights and the small motors later. The monitor pump will be operated by another 3s LiPo which will give me 11.1 volts.
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4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ bruce1946 ( Midshipman)
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there is only one pump but some have put bilge pumps in and others have put cooling pumps in for the motors one person used to for the monitors. I have 2 - 6 volt batteries hook in parallel so my battery doesn't wear down when using the monitors. the other batteries are 2 6 volt hooked in series for 12 Volts drive motors.
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๐ฌ Re: Day 5
4 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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I must admit that as there seems to be a large amount of available space in the hull, I have not given much thought to fitting everything in yet. I am making the Krick Police Launch alongside this one and there is a lot less room here but I have managed to get a lot inside. As there are 16 channels required to run this model, I will ensure that I design the wiring soon and make up some looms like in a car.
Just a little question, what are the two pumps for. I only have one. Peter. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Day 5
4 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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I have used Stabilit Express two part glue for the rudders, prop tubes and the trays. Bonds very well, water tight and relatively easy to use. A mask is required though as it is quite nasty smelling. It is also quite expensive.
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๐ฌ Re: Day 6
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Nice work,
Keep it up. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Day 6
4 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Coming along nicely. At this rate you will finish long before me.
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Very useful site there Dash. Thanks.๐
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4 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Really interesting pictures Doug. Very helpful. That download of instruments is also invaluable. Thanks for uploading.๐
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ bruce1946 ( Midshipman)
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Wow thank you
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ dash8man ( Able Seaman)
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ bruce1946 ( Midshipman)
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Now it's working go figure weird
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Bruce,
On a Windows PC it should open automatically. If not click the download arrow in the little blue box at top left and download it to your hard drive. Then open with your usual pdf app. Adobe or Nuance etc. Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ bruce1946 ( Midshipman)
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for some reason I can't get it to open?๐ญ
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Can't take any credit Pete๐
Zedenek (Inkoust) sent the file to me two years ago. It's since been sent round the world๐ Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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What a brilliant file Doug๐๐๐ where do you find such useful ideas? this is one of the best things I have seen for a long time, perfect for anyone doing out their control area in a tug, cabin cruiser, fishing boat or whatever๐
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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OK.
Here's an A4 pdf page of typical dials and front panels, displays. Download it to your hard rive. Open the file and use the Snipping Tool to snip out the pics you need. Insert the Snip into whatever photo software you have and save as a new file. Then you can scale it to suit, or use your printer scaling functions to print the size you need. Probably give best results at about 600dpi on a light glossy photo paper. Happy snipping๐ Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ bruce1946 ( Midshipman)
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Any picture would greatly accepted. Or any helpful tips. I'm thankful this site and all the friendly people are here.
I haven't totally said no to updating the boat but I don't have the knowledge to do it. ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Understood Bruce๐
Hope the gallery at least helps with some cabin internals. Looking forward to the results. I can help with some tiny instrumentation pics; dials and screens etc, if you wish. Like the fish finder display on Skydive's 'Orca'. Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ bruce1946 ( Midshipman)
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Fleet
Being as this is my 2nd RC boat I think I may have to pass on changing it to new version. I would have to build a new boat, and crane that is articulated put an out board on it. along with I believe moving the monitor forward, anchor system. and building new items on the stern. I don't have a 3 D printer to build new crane. I love the Idea though. Besides I,m an Air Force Flight engineer MSgt. and don't know a lot about building fire boats. I would love to modify it to new version but I need to modify me 1st (Just too old) trying to figure out all this new electronics. There is not many people here in Oregon building boats, they are more interest airplanes here. there is a lot more boat interest in England and Europe. Thanks for your input though ▲
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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So Bruce,
" Plenty there to get your teeth into Bruce." You have your orders from Admiral Martin555. Get chomping!!๐๐๐ Could be interesting to have a go at that new crane on the foredeck. Would set your Dรผsseldorf apart from all the others๐ FLEET// ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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"You mean after the dozen or so waiting in line....๐"
Never heard of the 'Bakers`s Dozen' Pete?? ๐๐ ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Plenty there to get your teeth into Bruce.
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ bruce1946 ( Midshipman)
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Thank you so much great photo's. I really appreciate it.
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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You mean after the dozen or so waiting in line....๐
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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There's always 'the next one' Pete
Nod Nod Wink Wink๐๐ Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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What a great collection of photo's Doug, ๐wish now I had not sold my Dusseldorf, plenty here for super detailing๐
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๐ฌ Re: day 6 question
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Bruce,
Your kit is of the 'as built' condition ca1975. This gallery is as she is now from her 50th birthday celebrations ๐๐๐๐ More or less as she was 'rearranged' in 1980. Dinghy has been updated and shifted to the foredeck to clear the stern for the tow-line. Wheelhouse layout still looks fairly 'vintage'. Apart from the Electronic Chart System of course!๐ Her sister 'Kรถln' is tied up alongside. Two sample pics attached. happy detailing. Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Updated 06/08/2020
3 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Very interesting - now it works!?
Here's the direct link to their shop.๐ ๐ ▲
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Remove Ads ๐ฌ Re: Updated 06/08/2020
3 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ figtree7nts ( Admiral)
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๐ฌ Re: Updated 06/08/2020
3 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Link don't woik Bruce โน๏ธ
"Not found on this server"! Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Some progress on my Dusseldorf
3 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Bruce.
I always use connectors for separating the wiring when removing the cabin but never thought of the water. Could you give me more information on the quick change connectors you show in your picture as I would like to do the same on my Dusseldorf. Thanks. Peter. ▲
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3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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You blow me away with getting 16 channels working I have trouble just getting 2 channels working .Nice work.
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๐ฌ Re: Some progress on my Dusseldorf
3 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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"it keeps talking about them being used on Lipo's"
Ignore that Bruce. The same principle applies to ANY battery chemistry. Check the manufacturers description I posted! They just talk about 'batteries'. But the consequences can be be significantly worse with LiPos of course. Remember, the immediate danger is to the wiring! If that overheats and starts to burn ....๐ฅ๐ญ I've said my piece. The choice is yours. Stay safe. Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Some progress on my Dusseldorf
3 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ bruce1946 ( Midshipman)
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So silly question: I look up the 103 here in USA and it keeps talking about them being used on Lipo's I'm not using LiPo's I'm using MH batteries
thank you on your comment on my boats. and your help ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Some progress on my Dusseldorf
3 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Agopoly accepted Bruce๐
If you're not a dab hand with the soldering iron the simplest way to connect two batteries in parallel and protect your boat (and what a helluva boat you've got there๐) is one of these little jobs- ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Some progress on my Dusseldorf
3 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ bruce1946 ( Midshipman)
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RNinMunich sorry mis understood what you were saying above, now it makes sense Dahhhh my bad, I will check it out, thank you.
Oh by the way I love going to Munich my favorite place were Garmish, Burchgarden I was stationed in the Netherlands for 4 years ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Some progress on my Dusseldorf
3 years ago by ๐ฟ๐ฆ Ianh ( Commander)
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Seen spaghetti like this before! Underground on a winder I had a good sparky working for me then he numbered and coded all the wires took him about 2 shifts to run 60 alarm and sentry cables and not 1 mistake๐๐ Don't find that sort anymore no pride in the artisans of today
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๐ฌ Re: Some progress on my Dusseldorf
3 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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"they are on totaly seperate systems and not connected to each other" ??
But you wrote 2- 6V connected in parallel Bruce! That can be dangerous without the diodes. Suggest you do a wiring recheck๐ Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Some progress on my Dusseldorf
3 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ bruce1946 ( Midshipman)
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they are on totaly seperate systems and not connected to each other and labeled 12v system is for the monitor pumps and the 2 motors
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๐ฌ Re: Some progress on my Dusseldorf
3 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ bruce1946 ( Midshipman)
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3 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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" ( 2- 6V connected in parallel )"
With protection diodes between them to prevent back charging I hope Bruce. The last thing you need is a fire at Spaghetti Junction! Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Not to mention the macaroni water toobs JB ๐ฎ
Do you cook 'em al dente before bending to shape and allowing to cool? I suppose for any adjustment needed you just pump hot water through them ๐๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Some progress on my Dusseldorf
4 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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I'm glad to see I'm not the only spaghetti wiring exponent Bruce, ,- my motto is, 'if in doubt, add more wire' ๐๐
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๐ฌ Re: Some progress on my Dusseldorf
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ bruce1946 ( Midshipman)
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Everything is labeled at both ends on what is does. there are 3 battery systems (one 12 (2-6V connected in series) one 6 volt system ( 2- 6V connected in parallel ) and one 4.6 volt battery) 3 water lines.
I thought there was going to be lots of room inside the hull when i was putting her together. There was not much help in the plans telling you how to connect everything, the drawings / instructions for the monitors was very confusing it took a lot of trial and error to get them working. Iโm still working on the boat winch trying to get it working. Iโm still working on her and hope to have her ready for the water next year in the spring. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Some progress on my Dusseldorf
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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She has come a long way Bruce.
With all that equipment inside her it is amazing that you know what is what LOL! Excellent work. Keep it up. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Some progress on my Dusseldorf
4 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Really nice job Bruce. I like the added pieces.๐๐.
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