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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Will do Rob and thank you!
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy.
Another tip.... When you put the chine stringers on leave about 20mm protruding, don't cut them back to bulkhead B5, that overlap will be useful later when you build the transom. Rob. ▲
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💬 Re: SLEC/LESRO 35” Pilot Boat 1:12 scale
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Rob, i was mistaken, im at the end of step 3, step 4 stringers is todays task to commence! Many thanks for the tip on beefing up the stringer, shall certainly incorporate that!
My 3536 motor is on route from Hong Kong through eBay. Im not confident thats going to arrive anytime soon and will have the same issue setting the propshaft which should be here today. Hobbyking is frustrating! they are litterally 5 miles from me and when i order i click and collect but that of course is not an option at the moment, everything of use is out of stock anyway as you know! I doubt their stock levels will improve for along time as their supplies come from you know where! Aparently their Holland warehouse is deliverying, but postage costs and stock levels again maybe an issue? ill have a look! Stay safe Bob!👍 ▲
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💬 Re: SLEC/LESRO 35” Pilot Boat 1:12 scale
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Pete, i had another look at the picture manual late last night and indeed it is the very same ha ha!
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💬 Re: SLEC/LESRO 35” Pilot Boat 1:12 scale
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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i shall add photos carefully Doug, hope they upload in the correct order! 🤣😂
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💬 Re: SLEC/LESRO 35” Pilot Boat 1:12 scale
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy.
Part 4 is the stringers and you already have all the bulkheads in place so you are making quite rapid progress. BTW, be prepared to add an extra lamination on the stringers at the bow to make up a deficiency in the design, see pic. As you know I'm quite a slow builder and it's quite likely that you'll catch up and probably overtake me sometime soon. The big problem that I have is not being able to source the 3536 1250KV motor and 50A ESC that I need too. I usually get these from HobbyKing but the UK and EU warehouses are showing no stock. This is preventing me from setting the propshaft in its final position if I have to make allowances for a different 'spec motor. Yes, you could use an aircraft or better still a car ESC which will have reverse and probably fan cooling. I'm making provision for a water pickup and exhaust so I really want to source a water cooled ESC for mine. As a retiree I have time to 'take my time' on this build but it is frustrating not being able to source supplies. I'll probably post the first part of my blog tomorrow, the site had a few glitches which prevented my from doing it today. You Orca model is a masterclass in detailing and weathering that I can only aspire too 👍👍 All the Best. Rob. ▲
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💬 Re: SLEC/LESRO 35” Pilot Boat 1:12 scale
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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Hi Sky, many thanks for your comment, it is the same size as the SLEC one, it's just that I kept the side windows full instead of putting in the vertical bar to break it up.😊
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💬 Re: SLEC/LESRO 35” Pilot Boat 1:12 scale
4 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Evenin' Sky,
"First gripe, why doesn’t this website upload pictures in order? 🤬" As I far as I can see Sky the pics appear in your post in exactly the order you put them in the Edit box!? Cheers, Doug 😎 ▲
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💬 Re: SLEC/LESRO 35” Pilot Boat 1:12 scale
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi peter, just had a look at yours in your harbour and very nice too 👍 got a feeling it’s the smaller version as less windows?
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💬 Re: SLEC/LESRO 35” Pilot Boat 1:12 scale
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi once again Robbob! I’m sure our fellow boat friends will enjoy 2 builds and yes we can compare notes as we go. I’ve done a little today (step 4 in the manual) but am in no rush especially as “Boris” has announced little change for the next 3 weeks. The issue may come that I will struggle with supplies, running low on some consumables, I.e thick cyano!
My other issue is my brushless motor is coming from Hong Kong, so that could be delayed. The other issue is sourcing a 40a-50a ESC. I’m not planning on water cooling, and there seems to be a major shortage of water cooled esc at the moment anyway? What are your thoughts on using aircraft ESC, cheap as chips but forward only? I could always swap that for a boat ESC at a later stage and put a blocked water pick up in for use later? ▲
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💬 Re: SLEC/LESRO 35” Pilot Boat 1:12 scale
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Robbob,
You seem to have a head start, but it will be interesting to see the different techniques used in building this boat. Martin555. ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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Looking forward to this build Sky, as I mentioned I already have and built this boat from Lesro kits, but will certainly be interested in your detail work.
There is a photo of mine in my harbour, not very good I admit, but with watching your build, will make it better.😊 Cheers, Pete ▲
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💬 Re: SLEC/LESRO 35” Pilot Boat 1:12 scale
4 years ago by 🇭🇺 MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Here we go again. Looking forward to this blog.😀
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💬 Re: SLEC/LESRO 35” Pilot Boat 1:12 scale
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy.
I shall be following your build blog with great interest and we shall compare notes as I'm building the very same model myself 😀👍 Mine is in an advanced stage of construction and I'm almost ready to start painting, the first half dozen blogs are already written and nearly ready to 'go to press'. So you've stolen a march on this one but I'm very certain that the folk on this site will enjoy two of the same model being built at the same time. First post from me coming soon. Robbob. ▲
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💬 Re: SLEC/LESRO 35” Pilot Boat 1:12 scale
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I shall try not to disappoint Martin! This will be A completely different Build to the Orca of course, minimal weathering, bright and colourful, much tidier when finished, but still plenty of scope to add a personal stamp on it!👍
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💬 Re: SLEC/LESRO 35” Pilot Boat 1:12 scale
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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After watching your last build log and really enjoyed it, i am looking forward to this one.
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💬 Re: Formers and stringers
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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It’s very well cnc cut Martin, just a big jigsaw puzzle at the moment, all fits very nicely 👍
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Looks like that kit goes together rather well.
Then again it could just be down to your skills. Keep up the good work. Martin555. ▲
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💬 Re: Formers and stringers
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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That 1 pin is an extra pair of hands Kevin! Trying to keep the stringer strip curved is also helpEd with a few light score cuts on the inside before glueing using aliphatic wood glue. 👍
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💬 Re: Formers and stringers
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 kevinsharpe ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Nice clean work. I like the way you have pinned the top stringer to the bow hook while gluing/building. Never thought of doing it that way. Great idea,
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💬 Re: Stages 5,6,7 and stand
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Joe, I Don’t know how we coped before “man” invented the wheel followed by the clamp ha ha!
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4 years ago by 🇺🇸 Joe727 ( Commander)
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💬 Re: Stages 5,6,7 and stand
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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How can you possibly lose a box of clamps Doug, you must of chucked them 😂!
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💬 Re: Stages 5,6,7 and stand
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Please do Pete 👍 belt n braces I felt, but this model is just about all ply and will be quite heavy when finished!
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💬 Re: Stages 5,6,7 and stand
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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That i would love to see, how you modify a Stormtrooper.
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💬 Re: Stages 5,6,7 and stand
4 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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"Obviously cannot have too many clamps at a time like this.😀"
"And next time I go to the pound shop, I’ll probably buy more clamps! 😂" Excellent progress Sky👍 But PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT CLAMPS!! Still haven't found the box of clamps I lost in my workshop sort-out last year🤔 😎 ▲
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💬 Re: Stages 5,6,7 and stand
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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Clever mod to the stand Sky, definitely going to copy that.👍
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💬 Re: Stages 5,6,7 and stand
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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And next time I go to the pound shop, I’ll probably buy more clamps! 😂😂😂
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💬 Re: Stages 5,6,7 and stand
4 years ago by 🇭🇺 MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Took me a year to get this far with my Patrol Torpedo Boat.😁
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💬 Re: Stages 5,6,7 and stand
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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The stormtrooper is the correct scale ha ha, if I can’t find suitable figures for the pilot boat, he will end up as crew! 😂😂
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💬 Re: Stages 5,6,7 and stand
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Coming along nicely Sky.
I see you have an assistant on bench, i hope you both social distancing even though he seems to be wearing protective equipment LOL!! Martin555. ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Cheers Rob, copy away ha ha. I get those dowels from B&Q, their about £1.30 for a meter length. Use them on all my stands 👍
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💬 Re: Stages 5,6,7 and stand
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 robbob ( Admiral)
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Great progress Sy.
I like the idea of the stand mods, gonna have to copy that 😀 I did put four small bracing fillets on mine to make it a bit more rigid but yours looks much better 👍 Robbob. ▲
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💬 Re: Stages 8-10
4 years ago by 🇺🇸 Joe727 ( Commander)
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Sy,
I agree with your method using aliphatic glue. I do the same thing, let it cure thoroughly then a second coat to all joints. Joe👍 ▲
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4 years ago by 🇭🇺 MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Nicely done.
I think when I get a little older and slower, I will often be seen walking around the garden, quietly swearing with the entire boat stuck to my hands. Only skin sticks on at the moment.😁 Peter. ▲
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💬 Re: Stages 8-10
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I actually double glue most key joints? With wood glue (aliphatic my fave!) I glue and clamp and squeegee any excess that creeps out of the joint with finger or a 45 degree cut piece of softish balsa Sheet. Once dry I go round all the joints and repeat, squeegeeing in.
Different story with epoxy! I use it when necessary but hate it, hate the smell and trying to avoid it getting were you don’t need it, especially fingers-nightmare! 😂 ▲
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💬 Re: Stages 8-10
4 years ago by 🇭🇺 MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Very nice woodwork. You hide the glue very well.
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💬 Re: Stages 8-10
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Nope, not a chance Rob, my longest 8mm bit would be half that beast! 👍😂
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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I really like the way you and Sky share information and tips.
Keep it up. Martin555. ▲
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💬 Re: Stages 8-10
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I shall try not to disappoint Martin 😂
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💬 Re: Stages 8-10
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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With your skills i think you will get more satisfaction making your own.
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💬 Re: Stages 8-10
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Martin, no the kit comes with next to no hardware. Required as extra, motor, propshaft, coupling, prop ect. You can buy a slightly more comprehensive kit that includes white metal parts, railing brass ect, but opted for the lesser kit as I wanted to make my own railings, stanchions, bollards ect.
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💬 Re: Stages 8-10
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Sky,
Nice. Did the shaft come with the kit.? Do you have to purchase a separate fittings.? Martin555. ▲
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💬 Re: Stages 11-16
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Just the one Stormtrooper Pete, he’s a busy boy 😂
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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Bringing back memories of my build some years ago,
I used a Perma-Grit SB280 sanding block coarse/fine but as Rob mentions, a sanding plate does the same job... Is there just one storm trooper? or wil Mr Vader make an entrance later!😁 Cheers, Pete ▲
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💬 Re: Stages 11-16
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Ha ha Rob, funny you should mention a sanding plate, I’ve a couple I made A while ago and did use, but not pictured!
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💬 Re: Stages 11-16
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy.
Excellent progress today 👍 You should make a sanding plate, so much easier than a block and loose paper and it guarantees perfect flatness. Only costs pennies to make and the aluminium oxide paper glued to it lasts forever, 60 grit one side and 80 grit on the other. Good to see the Stormtrooper earning his keep.😁 Robbob. ▲
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💬 Re: Stages 11-16
4 years ago by 🇭🇺 MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Can`t remember if he is long or short sighted. Or just plain nosey.
Very nice job.😊 Peter. ▲
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💬 Re: Stages 11-16
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Cheers Martin 👍😂👍😂
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Nice work.
I am glad to see the Quality Inspector is doing his Job LOL!! Martin555. ▲
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💬 Re: Continuing stages 12-16
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Nice! 👍
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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I like the Hammerite Finnish robbob,
Makes it look neat and tidy. Martin555 ▲
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💬 Re: Continuing stages 12-16
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Think I’ll install propshaft tube, fill and cloth and resin after 👍 I do like the silver finish on your internal woodwork Rob, did you give the wood a coat of resin then throw on some spray paint, looks great!
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy.
I have already glassed & epoxied my hull without the shaft glued in because I was trying to get a motor to do the full alignment first. In many ways it's easier to do the glassing first as the shaft doesn't get in the way, but whatever works best for you. Finally I can fit the shaft now that the motor has arrived...👍😀 Robbob. ▲
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💬 Re: Continuing stages 12-16
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I quite agree Rob, the transom as per your recommends was great 👍. My little motor from Hong Kong arrived, it’s tiny and has gone straight on eBay ha ha! Hopefully my 3536 motor and propshaft coupling will arrive tomorrow?
I don’t know about you, but I’m planning on installing my propshaft prior to glass clothing. My thought is, Epoxy install propshaft and get that all lined up with coupling, motor ect. p92 Body filler Around propshaft tube exit and in the keel slot to fair the propshaft tube in, sand back and then cloth and resin? Kind regards Sy ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I’ve always hated Hull sheeting Martin, once that’s out of the way, everything else is a joy by comparison! 👍😂
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy.
Stormtrooper playing up today was he?. I see you found your sanding plate 👍 The stern builds up a lot better like that doesn't it 😁 Like me you've made provision for the cooling water outlet too. BTW my motor arrived today 😀 Take the rest of the day off and have a nice Scotch & Soda 🥃 😋 Robbob. ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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We all have days like that.
Hopefully tomorrow will be much better. Martin555. ▲
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💬 Re: Basic hull completed
4 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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BTW Sy,
Forgot to mention- I love the Dazzle camouflage mask you've applied👍 Is that the colour you will use?? Neat 😁 😎 ▲
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4 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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" I had a similar blow torch to yours I bought of eBay, was awful, spluttering, ...."
Bad luck Sy🤔 Mine works perfectly every time. Has done several soldering jobs where even my 50W iron struggles or gives up. Not to mention countless Crème Brûlées 😋😋 for which sort of tasks it was actually intended 😊 Melting plastic? Not a problem. A few years ago I bought a batch of sintered phosphor bronze bushes, 1mm to 4mm ID, and have refitted all my old prop toobs with those😉 Cheers, Doug😎 ▲
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💬 Re: Basic hull completed
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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Of course you're right Sky, much easier to cover in one piece, stupid of me for asking, apologies😌
I definitely think should ask for a portion of his profits, you never know ££££😊 Cheers, Pete ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Doug, I had a similar blow torch to yours I bought of eBay, was awful, spluttering, couldn’t never seem to get enough gas in it to last more than 20 seconds, it went to the dump! 😂😂😂
I’m happy to solder brass tube Oiler’s onto shafts if I can do them out of the hull before fitting the shaft tube which is sometimes possible on smaller shafts. The other thing to watch out for is the propshafts I buy are the ones with a plastic bushing which needs to be out before soldering or it melts, don’t ask how I know 😂😂 ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Pete, I should ask the eBay seller for a cut of his profits if everyone buys all his Oiler’s ha ha!
As for glassing the transom first, simply because I always have and it’s the easiest piece to do, no curves to deal with ect. Of course if there is a reason not to do the transom first(too late on this model 😂) please let me know for future reference. ▲
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4 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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I've never tried it Pete, but I don't see why not.
It can produce a very hot fine pointed flame. Suck it and see👍 (Ouch 🙊😭) 😎 ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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I have the very same gas torch Doug, question! could I do silver soldering with this one?😐
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4 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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I guess they'll do the job fine Pete.
But I've got miles of suitable size brass toob in 1m lengths😊 You're right, you can't hang about when the tube is already built into the boat. That's why I like that little kitchen gas torch. It can be adjusted to a very small fine very hot flame . A dab of plumbers flux and Bob's yer uncle and Fanny's yer Aunt😁 (As Granny would say!) Cheers, Doug 😎 ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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Yeh! sounds simple Doug now you come to mention it,
But to solder whilst in the boat,🤞 you have to be pretty quick with the heat, can't dawdle, or you have a nice pile of charcoal😁 btw, What do you think of the plastic oilers mentioned by Skydive 130? Cheers, Pete ▲
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4 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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"saves trying to hold a piece of brass tube and solder."
No great sweat Pete. For my Sea Scout I used the drill bit that I had used to drill the shaft tube to hold the oiler tube in place while I soldered it - using a little kitchen 'Gourmet' gas torch.😉 Only thing that worried me was setting the boat on fire!!🔥😭 A small plumbers mat under the tube solved that😉 Cheers, Doug 😎 ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 robbob ( Admiral)
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Thanks Sy.
Just ordered some 👍😀 Rob. ▲
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Brilliant idea Sky,👍 have just put an order in for a pair, saves trying to hold a piece of brass tube and solder.
Pilot boat coming along nicely, why did you glass fiber the transom first? just being inquisitive.😳 Cheers, Pete ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Ha ha Rob, I’ve had a lot of time on my hands between leaving the Army after 36 Years service and starting my new job with the MOD in 9 days time, it will slow down then!
I get the oilers of eBay, normally come in a 2 pack for about £4 posted, I’ll try and find a link. I’ve soldered brass tube in the past, but theses are simple as! One I move onto building the cabin, I think that’s where our builds will differ as I intend to chop and change the cabin quite a bit? ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Yep, it’s all fun now Martin ha ha!👍😂
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy.
Not bad for 8 days work👍! it probably took me a fortnight to get to where you are now. I've used a brass clamp-on oiler before but never seen a plastic one, where's that from? Rob. ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Well that's the bit you hated over.
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Cheers Ian 👍
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 ianed57 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Lovely work.
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 ianed57 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Thanks, very helpful. I've never used one of these, always just oil from each end. Perhaps I'll fit one in an older boat first. Thanks for the tips though.
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Hi Ian, I see no reason why you cannot fit after a build as long as you have access to all sides of the propshaft tube in it’s fixed position. A couple of points to note, you will need to carefully drill a 2mm hole in the tube, but obviously not going through both walls of the tube. The other point is these Oiler’s state to fit a 8mm OD tube, but I’ve always had to drill the hole larger 7.5mm to fit around a standard 8mm tube. Any other questions, please ask, if I don’t have the answer, someone will! Kind regards. Simon
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 ianed57 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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I'm finding your build very interesting and informative. I looked up those oilers on ebay- presumably it wouldn't be too difficult to fit them retrospectively?
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4 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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"order: esc-fuse-switch-XT60-lipo"
Correct Sy👍 I could have made my switchboard smaller. But I have a packet of those little boards, an' I was lazy so used it 'as is'😉 There's still room on it though for some other gizmos and connectors; UBEC, light switches, honk honk switch ... 😁 The Tamiyas are OK for my little 1000kV motor on 3S, never draws more than 8A or so. If it does there's a 10A fuse after the red LED illuminated switch, auto parts shop👍 JFF I added a green LED on the output side of the fuse; Green for GO! Cheers, Doug 😎 ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy & Doug.
I always use a high current power switch so a fast battery dis-connect is not a problem (for me) 😁 The 'Lucar' fuseholder solution (see pictures of my Police Launch electrics) is easy and inexpensive to make if you have the bits for it, and it's in-line in the +ve supply between the switch and the ESC, also it's very compact and doesn't need to be fixed on a bracket. Doug's Veroboard solution is fine if you have room for it. Rob. ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Roger all the above messages Rob and Doug, I like both methods of employing fuse And switch inline. Just to confirm, switch and fuse coming off the “red” wire in this order: esc-fuse-switch-XT60-lipo. I shall make the fuse/switch on a separate pair of wires with a plug at either end, similar to Doug’s photo but not with Tamiya Connectors.
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4 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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"fuseholder in-line using Lucar female connectors and heat shrink sleeving"
Yep that works Rob, BUT It's a fiddle it you need to pull it in a hurry! In particular if you can't fit a Main Power switch with sufficient current rating. I prefer to use the PCB mounted blade fuse holders. I solder them into a chunk of Vero (sorry Matrix!) board and reinforce the board tracks with 1mm copper wire. Attached pic shows my Sea Scout 'Machinery Flat' installation. Belt and braces😉 Current draw gets nowhere near the rating of the switch or fuse, and she still goes like *****! Most 'unladylike' for a Broads cruiser! But then since the gangster days 'broad' has taken on a slightly different meaning! 'Oose da broad 'angin off yer neck Lefty?'😁 G'night All, 😎 ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 robbob ( Admiral)
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Sy.
The wiring of mine will be exactly the same as in my Police Launch but with the main power switch on a bracket close to the battery box. I'll most likely make the fuseholder in-line using Lucar female connectors and heat shrink sleeving the same as in my Police boat too. I hope that's helpful. Rob. ▲
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4 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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".... will then give it a coat of primer And a dollop of paint from a rattle can. "
Sy, Rob and I prefer brushed Hammerite for internals. Hard as nails, easy to clean and easier to splosh around inside than messing with spray cans and masking!😉 Don't need primer either, just apply some wood sealer first. I use Eze-Kote water based resin diluted with ca 20-25% wet stuff. Cheers, Doug 😎 ▲
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4 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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"I knew as soon as I posted that phrase that Doug would have a reply, never fails to disappoint 😂😂😂😂"
I would hate to disappoint you Sy. Your humble servant Sah😌 Amazing the difference a couple of commas can make isn't it Sy!😉 😎 ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Pete, I guess we all like what we like when it comes to connectors. I shall be giving my internal hull a coat of sealer, followed by a coat of resin, will then give it a coat of primer And a dollop of paint from a rattle can. Watch this space 😂😂
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I always use the lipo alarms, for the few pence they cost, invaluable! I’m planning on nav lights, search lights and radar running on a 360 degree converted cheapie 9g servo, but I will run them on a 6v AA battery Box separate from the main motor battery.
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I shall wait for your electrics install Rob, so I can see your set up. However, if you have a photo of a previous set up with similar electronics showing switches and fuses ect, I could then see if I have the necessary components or if I need to get something that I don’t have.
I’ve got some of those MT60’s but haven’t quite figured out how they work, maybe I’m being stupid? Cheers as always for your input 👍 ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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And there it is, I knew as soon as I posted that phrase that Doug would have a reply, never fails to disappoint 😂😂😂😂
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Wow! what a lucky chap you are, never used the Xt60
have a few that someone gave me, but still stick to the original Deans,🤞 not the china sh**, and have never had a problem even with 6 cell lipo.🙄 Will you be painting your inner hull? Cheers, Pete ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 robbob ( Admiral)
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I also use HobbyKings XT60 connectors and also the MT60 motor connectors too. I did but some XT connectors from eBay but they were rather poor quality copies, the housing plastic just couldn't take the heat from a 30w soldering iron without softening and distorting. I never have that problem with the genuine articles.
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy.
I haven't got as far as you have with the power system, I still need to get the ESC and a LiPo battery, but I will be fitting a main power switch and a suitably rated fuse as usual. I won't fit a receiver switch though as the switched ESC/BEC will be sufficient. A battery level alarm will be used on the battery balance connector too. Not too sure at this stage about active nav and mast lights which will need to have a connecting cable and plug/socket between the hull and the removable superstructure. Robbob. ▲
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4 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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"On the wife’s hot tub once she’s waterproof ...."
Oooer! What do you use to waterproof the Missus!?😮 TWO HOT TUBS! PLUTOCRATS!!🙄 😁😎 ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Much prefer XT’s to those old deans, they were a pig! I find some XT,s better than others, mine are all from HobbyKing and I have hundreds, they seem to be ok, I e had some eBay that are rubbish!
As for fuses, I have a huge box of them up to 50a, I hope my draw will be under 40a on my set up, we shall see? 👍 ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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There’s defo a 15a blade fuse on the Orca Doug with an Mtroniks 20a brushed esc, I consider that ample safety for any weed snags. Let me put the Pilot boat set-up On the wife’s hot tub once she’s waterproof and prop fitted to see the amp draw, we can then consider putting a fuse in.
I would be interested to see what Rob’s plan will be as we just about the same on our power set up? 👍 ▲
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4 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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PS I VERY much hope you've put a fuse in your wonderful Orca Simon!!!!
It would be a cataclysmic shame to see that go up in smoke 😭 Cheers, Doug 😎 ▲
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4 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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"The way I see it is brushless set-up is the same as aircraft and we never put fuses in small aircraft."
Aha! Old habits die hard eh Simon😉 Guess there's not a very significant probability of 'high flying weeds' jamming your prop (sorry airscrew)😮 For some years now I use the blade type car fuses. You can also get small resettable circuit breakers with the same blade fitting. Useful if you forget to put spare fuses in the 'Lakeside kit box'.😊 I bought a few rated at 10A and 30A. I think they go up to 50A!? Be interested to see what sort of appetite your motor has👍 Anyway, very glad to see you only lost the XT, and some time and nerves💥🔥😠 Those XTs are little so and so's to get apart aren't they🤔 Cheers, Doug 😎 ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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To be honest Doug, I haven’t thought of that? The way I see it is brushless set-up is the same as aircraft and we never put fuses in small aircraft. Once I can get the hull in the water and the prop is fitted I can put the watt meter on to see what the draw is, I could fit a fuse after that if you can advise me on best course. I will put a receiver switch in, it’s in the box of bits and will be added when I do the final set-up. Cheers for your point Doug 👍
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Probably! 😂😜
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4 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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If you don't mind my asking Simon ...
Where's the fuse?🙄😮 Switch? Doug 😎 ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Sky,
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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And that’s why your blogs look professional Rob and mine are “fish n chip” 😂😂😂 hopefully the only time I will experience magic smoke, and thankfully on the building board. I did witness a lipo fire onboard a very expensive ducted fan jet last year whist the pilot was conducting a high speed pass. The result was an expensive write off! That was certainly magic smoke! 😂😂
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy.
Ahhh....that would explain it. I have all my blogs 'episodes' pre-written as Word docs ready to copy & paste and all the pictures pre-selected to drag and drop one at a time in the desired order so my blog postings just take a minute or so to do. Nothing like a bit of 'magic smoke' to spoil your day. Rob. ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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No kidding Rob, the air was as blue with profanities as the blue spark that came off the XT60 melt down moment! 😂😂
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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It’s written up now Rob, I always do the initial upload on the phone with the picks, then finish off the description on the Mac 😂😂
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 robbob ( Admiral)
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"Started the morning".................and Wot?
Edit. Strange....your posting started with just the above and nowt else...then suddenly the rest of your text appeared, hence my question. Got my attention though!! I'm relieved to hear that there's no apparent damage, boat ESC's are a bit scarce at the mo!. Rob. (Fleet Admiral has taken a small liberty with your post Rob😁😎) ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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If I did it was a typo Doug, I’ve got fuses up to 30a and have ordered some 40a of eBay, if my motor runs higher amps than that we are in trouble! 😂😂
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There's method in my madness Sy😉😉
BTW: Didn't you say you had a box of fuses up to 50A?? 😎 ▲
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Cheers as always for your help and comedy Doug, brightens my day ha ha. I think my fuses were something like 99p on eBay!
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4 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Way to go Sy👍
Looks like the same box of blades that I bought there😊 Happy Piloting, watching the blog with interest. All the best, Doug 😎 PS Yes, your presumption is correct. For preference fuse in the + wire👍 PPS I'd be very surprised if your set up needs anywhere near 40A. If it does check your prop size and pitch. Too big a prop often simply increases the load on the motor and hence the current draw. Usually with no increase in performance. Often precisely the converse in fact☹️ cheers, Doug 😎 ▲
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