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    HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW PROJECT
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    πŸ“ HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW PROJECT
    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Thought I'd have a lash at a model of the Hartley 19ft 5in 15 deg V cabin boat I completed about 30 yrs ago. Hartley boats are NZ designed, and there have been around 100,000 examples built, ranging from canoes to large ocean yachts. Hartleys have been built since their plans were first produced in 1938, and wherever you go in NZ or Aust you are bound to find one example. The most common runabouts in the 50s- 80s, were Hartleys, Pelins, Augustins and there are still thousands around today,(I had the Hartley and still have a 70s Pelin Nomad 12ft dinghy)

    I have been thinking of building this boat for a while and have decided to power it with a jet unit to see how it goes. My particular boat was designed for a Hamilton single stage jet, to be powered by a Zephyr 6 or 149 Holden motor or similar (around 100hp) but I fitted a MK3 Zodiac 6 with a stern drive which pushed it at 30mph at 5000rpm.

    I scanned a drawing from the old Hartley plan brochure and modified it to resemble the model I had, with the longer dodger with longer side windows. I then enlarged it and scaled it for 30" on A4 (I was thinking of 40"but it would have been huge) Today I took the drawing to the big local stationers and had it blown up to full size (as well as the 1/2 bulkhead/frames I had scaled). I took some measurements originally from the A4 drawing at points along the hull for the frames, (height, width etc) and estimated some of the positions I remembered from my boat. The boat has quite a flare in the bow (a feature of most larger Hartleys) so I will have to do a lot of fiddling to get it all to look right.

    Tonight I cut out some trial frames,and will set these out on the keel upside down, then try out the positions with a piece of 3x3 balsa stock to get the 'flow' right. Takes a while doing it without any plan but usually works out ok, (eg my HSL , ST and Maiami) Not in any rush so this will take a while. Have ordered the jet unit (26mm El Cheapo) from Ali Express and will probably try a brushed 540 30T or similar first to see how it goes. Would have loved an AMPS stern drive, (still have a brochure somewhere I sent to UK for, about 1970) , but they are long gone (mostly collectors items now)

    This will be the usual balsa/ply/glass hull with Mahogany trim etc, so should be an interesting exercise, especially with the jet, (will have to come up with a reversing bucket as the El Cheapos don't have one.)

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    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Martin, I'll only need an aircraft ESC as reversing is done with a bucket (which as mentioned) the cheapo jet doesn't have. I could have bought a fancy one at 3-10 times the price, but I reckon I can mould or panelbeat a bucket from glass or copper etc. The white jet is a single stage with an old style reversing bucket, and the black NZ Southern Jets unit is a single stage with the latest style of twin nozzle reverse bucket, which gives better directional control. Most jet units run constantly with the engine, and with the jet in neutral (no gearbox, just half in reverse, so you are neither going forward or backwards)

    There is a nice looking 28mm jet unit made by Ocean Works in Hong Kong which I might look at if this one is no good, (they also make a range of nice looking Azimuth thrusters as well)
    JB
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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    Its nice to see a different boat, looking forward to seeing the build
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I am looking forward to this build Jb.
    Going buy your other builds this will look fantastic when you have her completed.
    It will be interesting to see how you setup the ESC with a water jet as you only want the motor running one way.

    Martin555.
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    πŸ“ HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW PROJECT
    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Slotted the frames for the keel to try the positions. Still have a lot of shaping to do (adding bits here and there, - mainly in the bow area trying to get the flare correct and F1 F2 curve to match nicely for planking. Once I'm happy I'll make new frames for the corrected ones and make a building board up. I'll probably make a top 'spine' to mount these on as with the ST, which will be cut out where required once the hull is eventually solid enough or glassed. This is secured to the building board to keep things lined up. (see pic of the ST before removing sections)

    I'l be busy on the bandsaw and sander for a while I think. This is slightly more difficult than the ST and HSL as at least the frame shapes and positions were on the drawings (even if they were only 80% accurate and needed work), but I'll get there in the end with a lot of trial and error and probably cussin😁

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    4 years ago by πŸ‡­πŸ‡Ί MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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    Wow. You have been busy JB. Great start. πŸ˜€
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Joe727 ( Commander)
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    JB,
    Always nice to see a new build coming together. This looks like a fun design, I'll be watching. πŸ‘
    Joe😎
    πŸ“ HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW PROJECT
    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Fitted the center 'spine' and screwed it to the building board to help hold everything straight. Notched the frames for the stringers and adjusted the frames for shape. Hopefully everything is lined up (chine curve etc) but you just don't know till you start finally gluing the stringers on. I am going to get some more small clamps and modify them to hold the stringers on while gluing (see pic- suddenly came to me,- been trying to think of a way for years,- bit slowπŸ˜‚). Haven't glued anything as yet (except the ply top L and R stringers which I glued together to keep them in shape, as the framing starts from there first, - at least with my method😁)

    I'll wait till I make the clamps before gluing anything, as there are probably a lot more shape adjustments to make (I've already modified F1 and F2 4 times to try and get the chine flow looking ok)- compound curve so it's tricky, (interior seat/bunk framing etc of the full sized boat took me a year,-every cut was a compound one!☹️) but I'll get there eventually. It's worth taking a bit of time, as nothing looks worse than a 'lumpy' bow. I can work on the cabin sides anyhow in the mean time. Going to have to make a hobby shop run to get a few more hardwood strips for framing I think, as some I have are not suitable, and also check the $2 shops for clamps.

    Found some handy ready made pine blocks in the Korean $2+ shop for $2.50, some of which I split for braces using a Stanley blade in the mill chuck. Good for holding bits in place and reinforcing corners. I have also bought packets of small wooden and plastic dowel lengths, and tons of cheap cyano. Handy shop for modelling bits, even found small hemp string for making anchor ropes etc.

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    4 years ago by πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ nasraf ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    I like the block "chopper".
    πŸ“ HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW PROJECT
    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Did a tour of the hardware and Chinese shops looking for packets of mini clamps (for my stringer clamp idea) but didn't find the ones I wanted. What I did spot at the local Chinese $2+ store, were coat hangers with handy clamps, almost like the ones I wanted. Bought a couple of these sets (5 hangers/set with 10 clamps ea) for $11 and set about modifying them. I first cut them off the bars, leaving an 'axle' to hold onto. Then I held the clamps nose first in the vice and carefully pulled the axles out and followed them with a 3mm electrical bolt with nut, - (took a bit to sort out a way of doing this to avoid the springs flying out) An extra hand would have been good, as you needed to hold the coil in place with one finger and pull the axle out with one hand, while pushing the bolt through with the otherπŸ˜€FUN!

    Trimmed the bolts and cyano'd the nuts in place. I then used the angle grinder with a metal cutting wheel to cut slots in the noses of the clamps,- wide enough to take a normal stringer size. Tried them out on the hull and they work perfectly,😊 - don't know why I haven't thought of this before, (previously using pins, rubber bands and a dozen other methods. One of those things that is right in front of you but you can't see it (forests for trees etc)😁 I think it's the way the mind works, ie you know how a clamp is supposed to work so you accept it, but try to think of other methods rather than look at the clamp and turn your brain 90 degπŸ˜‚.

    Anyhoo, I now have 20 very useful and now dual purpose clamps. Hull shape is not looking too bad now so will notch the bottom stringer positions and then I can maybe start framing.

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    4 years ago by πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦ Ianh ( Commander)
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    You never have enough clamps!😊😊
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ figtree7nts ( Admiral)
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    That's a great idea!
    But, here where I live US.
    There hard to find!

    Cheers, Ed
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I'm guessing you have a lot of clamps then MikeπŸ˜‚ ? They are quite strong for what they are (if a bit thin) and a lot cheaper than paying $1.65 ea for the common cheap red tipped ones from the hardware super stores. I'm surprised no one makes a clamp like these I've modified for modelling. I've searched everywhere on line (engineering, boat building etc) but nothing.

    I've been modelling since the 60s and never seen anything like it. I'm sure you'd be able to knock some nice ones up with your gear if necessary, as these beat rubber bands hands down. Leak the idea to the Chinese and they'll have them out in daysπŸ˜‚
    JB
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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    Here in UK these clamps on coat hangers come free with all the clothes my wife buysπŸ˜‚
    They are mostly detachable and usable without modification but are really useful having a deep throat on some of them.
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    What a wonderful find with the hangers I will look to find some myself.
    Rick
    πŸ“ HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW PROJECT
    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I've now cut out the frames and fitted the rear keel flat section to mount the jet unit. Also added the top center stringer. I won't be able to do a lot more to the frame until I get the jet unit, as I don't know any measurements and what I might have to remove or add. I might make a start on the cabin sides and try to find some mahogany veneer. I have glued the first 3 frames to the top ply stringer support blocks but nothing else yet, in case I need to make any adjustments. I've also ordered a 12v brushed high speed/torque 550 (with bearings) to try first. Much cheaper than brushless, and I could drag out my little used (fizzy) Electronize ESC or my 43 yr old Graupner 18A ESC to try with it.

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    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Don't know about master class nasraf, as there is always something I forget. Just a lot of trial and error really to get things looking as near as possible to scale. There is always a lot of packing, cutting and dremeling etc to get to the end result. The HSL drawings needed a lot of tweaking, as although they looked good in the magazine they were nowhere near the same profiles side to side as mentioned. You had to choose a side and flip it over and copy it to the other side to make them equal, then start your framing from there. You usually only discover things like this after you have started, and are wondering why things don't look right. I never trust drawings or plans in books now and check everything shown is symmetrical first.

    One good thing about building with this method is that you can keep trying every fit and shape before being happy enough to glue things. I enjoy the challenge of creating something from a picture or a plan.
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ nasraf ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    I wish you had started this build before I started the HSL, particularly on the frame and stringer pre assembly. Also I have now found out that it is a major error not to cut the openings in the frames before the structure is assembled.

    You are giving a master class on how to do a scratch build.
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    She is looking good so far Jb.

    Martin555.
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    While waiting for the jet unit and motor to arrive, I thought I might get on with the cabin. Copied the cabin plan onto baking paper and transferred it to 1.5mm marine ply (bought an 8x4 sheet at a bargin price of $60 about 10yrs ago and still have plenty left after the HSL and ST, - it was a limited stock deal and I wish I'd bought more at the time! - now about $300!

    I cut the sides out with a Stanley knife, then drilled 18mm holes in the 'corners'* of the windows (* I know curves don't have corners) then cut between those with the knife and finished them with the Dremel fitted with a small drum sander. I fitted the sides with 5x5mm longerons and braces, and made reinforcing plates to cover the joins where necessary to stop any inward flexing. I used PVA wood glue, then once dry, ran a bead of UHU along each side of the braces to seal them. The sloping rear braces on the full sized boat, continue down and attach to the hull frames to prevent sideways movement.

    Next job will be working out the roof battens, roof sheeting and front cabin ply pieces for the front windows.

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    4 years ago by πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Joe727 ( Commander)
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    Nice work, thanks for sharing the great photos. It's encouraging to see your work!
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Lots of work looks good .Rick
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡­πŸ‡Ί MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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    Looking good JB. Very nice wood work.
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I think most of us have had to correct 'unwanted corners' Martin, especially those of us relying on seeing eye dogs with wobbly pawsπŸ˜‚
    JB
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Jb,
    Ref :- (* I know curves don't have corners)
    They do when i do them LOL!!!!

    Nice work.

    Martin555.
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Made the cabin side flashes today (will be painted white before being glued on over the varnished comings), and fitted some doublers to the stem for the stringers to sit over (sort of reverse rabbet as it's too hard to rebate such a thin piece of ply)- gives the stem a bit more strength and can be notched to locate the stringers. Also made a set of templates in case I might want to build future models with this hull. The hull can be lengthened by adding an extra frame or two as with the full sized boat.

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    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Re -You beat Fleet to it this time Jb. LOL!!
    The advantages of being 12hrs ahead Martin, - I'm working in your future so I know what he's thinkingπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ (casts line out anticipating another nibble)πŸ˜‰
    JB
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Re- No he didn't Martin.

    I knew you knew I'd know that DougπŸ˜‚
    JB
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Sorry RS, should have mentioned they were made from 2.5mm firm balsa sheet and done the same way as the cabin sides, by tracing them off the drawing and transferring them to the balsa (pin marking-joining the dots). They were cut as near as poss with a knife and trimmed with the Dremel. Top surface edges are rounded to a D form.
    JB
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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    "Made the cabin side flashes today" but you don't mention How you made them jb, but they look great!

    Cheers, Pete😊
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    No he didn't Martin.
    I was testing JB this time😁
    Ah jus' knowed he'd go hunting!
    😎
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    You beat Fleet to it this time Jb. LOL!!

    Martin555.
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Got it in one AdmiralπŸ‘
    That's exactly what came to mind when I read your post😊
    😎
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Wasn't there a song about rabbiting Doug?😁
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Rabbet Rabbit😁
    Looking very good JB
    Some nice shaping your rabbit is doing there.πŸ‘
    Does he chomp and nibble out the curves with his 'carrot nashers'?πŸ˜πŸ˜‚πŸ€£
    What' up Doc?
    Cheers, Doug
    (Your incorrigibly unrepentant FLEET 😎)
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Was in a painting mood today so did the side 'flashes' to have them ready to slap on once the cabin is finished. I first doped them, then used an Inox primer then a white enamel for the final coat. To paint them, I made up a stand with thumb pins cyano'd into countersinks in a board, and the pieces pushed gently onto them. Once they were done I got on to the cabin framing which is a major amount of fun-NOT!

    The cabin is an open cabin with no bulkheads so took a lot of cutting and re-cutting to get things right. as the cabin top is curved and the sides also curved and sloping, it was a bit of a mission to get the roof beams correct. You have to allow a tad extra width on the roof sheets, (1.5mm marine ply) as when bent over the curved top beams you loose a bit in width. You also need 6 hands to hang on to all the bits😁

    I have temporary expanders and contractors fitted to keep it all in shape and 5 deg side templates to check it's all staying there. The 3 side stringers were slit with lots of saw cuts to get them to curve equally, and once the sides are all ready to glue up, they will be opened, cuts glue filled then re curved and all clamped back together again. once set, the shape should pretty much stay there and I can glue the beams on. The beams will have gussets from the beam to the sides to stiffen things up, and once the tops are on, it should be a bit more solid.

    I will probably incorporate a slip-in bulkhead with galley etc attached to add more stiffening at the bottom of the main front screen (I put a bulkhead here in the full sized boat with partial bulkheads spaced back either side for galley and head) As there are no bulkheads aft, I will have to come up with a way to hold the rear cabin in shape on the boat (perhaps a 4mm coaming on the deck to locate it. It's probably going to be a bit delicate but there is no way round it other than an aluminium frame (too hard to hide)

    To work on the cabin, I temporarily removed the hull semi frame which will screw back in the same place later. Might have been easier to have printed another drawing off while I was at it, but I'wasn't that clever (at the time)πŸ˜€

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    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Great minds think alike Martin😁
    JB
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Jb,
    Your thumb pin stand is a good idea.
    I have pushed dress making pins through some small square sheet Balsa wood and then i place the small squares anywhere to suite the pieces that are being sprayed.

    Martin555.
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Started framing the cabin today, - made cabin roof beams and capped the bent longerons (previously saw cut) with 1mm x 4mm hardwood to hopefully help it keep its' shape. A lot of cutting, notching and sanding later I finally managed to hold it together (the cabin, not me😁) with a few clamps (glad I just bought some more !) .Still have the bottom longeron to cap but will have to wait till I can lift it up when the glue has all set, to slide some more baking paper under to protect the plan/drawing when gluing.

    I've steamed the ply cabin tops over the kettle and pre bent them to avoid putting too much down force on the structure when 'roofing'.

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    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Success!, removed the clamps and the structure's reasonably solid which is a relief. Still have the tops of the roof beams to sand down, and will need temporary cross braces while doing any sanding, to prevent any sideways movement cracking the joints. Still have a lot of small gussets to make from the beams to the sides but will do that once the roof is on. With the roof panels just clamped on, the cabin is pretty solid for such a delicate structure, and should be even better once glued and gusseted and front screen panels are made, as the top joints are all that hold it at present.

    Next job will be to make the front screen panels and associated beams etc as the sooner they are on, the less likely an accidental collapse will be (due to old age stupidity😁,- eg,-just tried to cut the side off my thumb the other day slitting some balsa,) I've had the sweat, now the blood ,-just the tears to go (if I break itπŸ˜‚)

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    4 years ago by πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦ redpmg ( Commodore)
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    That cooling fan is not beyond your skills JB - hides the can pretty well - looking at a small computer fan as I write this - 2' diameter - sure you get even smaller............
    Good idea as you only see the top of the motor in a boat - not suitable for airboats though!
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Peter, the fake motors I did for the ST were just crude bits cyano'd on to the copper coil so never got hot (you might be thinking of someone elses' model,- think someone did a semi scale one a while back). I tried to find some replica Detroit 4-53 plastic kits and was going to run a shaft through them and hide the motors, but couldn't find one, and any motor kit or model costs an arm and a leg, so gave up on that idea.

    There are some with motors inside but are the wrong sort of motor and also expensive. The ones pictured look ok (for 36-40 diam motors) and are just a clip-on fan (fan in air filter). Might buy one of these for the Hartley model but not sure of the size, (a sort of suck it and see purchase maybe.) These are the sort of thing I was looking for but in a 4 cyl Detroit diesel. There is a Falcon motor which might have done for this model, but it's about $300! and there might be a motor in a vehicle kit, but they are stupidly expensive now also!

    Not sure what I'm going to add just yet,-have to wait and see how horrible the boat looks when finished. Probably have the usual stuff,- lights, anchor, squabs, instruments etc, plus it will have tinted windows, (as per the full sized version) and maybe a sound unit. Have to see how the jet unit performs as well ( will have to make a reversing bucket for it) before getting carried away.
    JB
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦ redpmg ( Commodore)
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    Hi JB - Seems I missed a lot being away - You have moved on pretty far already. Looking great so far. What have you got in mind re extras - working bilge pump perhaps ? Not that you would need it hopefully . Or perhaps fishing rods , Tackle boxes etc . A replica motor would be nice - I have a V8 motor from a large truck kit given to me by a friend now in OZ. Always thought it would look good on an airboat model - but how would you stop the plastic from melting with the heat ? How did you overcome the problem on the other replica motors?
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    4 years ago by πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Good luck Jb,
    I hate to see a crown man cry. LOL!!

    Martin555.
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