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๐ฌ Re: Krick Nordstrand Trawler Kit # 21430
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ MIR ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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It definitely is not a beginners model. I will keep you posted. Thanks for the kind words. Best MIR
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4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ MIR ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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I think they make very good models. What level do you think the police launch is. How long and what is the width. Is the hull all in one piece. Thanks MIR
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๐ฌ Re: Krick Nordstrand Trawler Kit # 21430
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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I think you are amazing to take on a model like this for your first effort. The work you are doing is exemplary and I look forward to reading and seeing more as you progress.
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๐ฌ Re: Krick Nordstrand Trawler Kit # 21430
4 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Looking good. The build so far looks very similar to my Krick Police Launch which is nearing completion, still.๐
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๐ฌ Re: Krick Nordstrand Trawler Kit # 21430
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi MIR.
As Punch and Judy would say "That's the way to do it" LOL!!! Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Krick Nordstrand Trawler Kit # 21430
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ MIR ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Thanks it is coming along slowly. Just purchased all the electronics so I can get that all working before I put the main deck in place. Mike
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๐ฌ Re: Krick Nordstrand Trawler Kit # 21430
4 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Well done it looks good.
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๐ฌ Re: Krick Nordstrand Trawler Kit # 21430
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ figtree7nts ( Admiral)
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Hi MIR,
You are doing a great job of it! Your build of your model looks great so far! Please post more info as you go along! Regards, Ed ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Krick Nordstrand Trawler Kit # 21430
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi MIR,
You are off to a great start. That looks a very nice model to make. Keep up the good work. Good luck with the build. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Salon, Rudder Assembly.Motor and Prop Assembly
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ figtree7nts ( Admiral)
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Hi MIR,
Your model is coming along nicely! I like how it's shaping up! Just take your time! Your doing a great job of it! Regards, Ed ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Looks a great start. Krick do make very nice kits.
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๐ฌ Re: Salon, Rudder Assembly.Motor and Prop Assembly
4 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Your first model sure wouldn't know it by the work you've done .
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๐ฌ Re: Salon, Rudder Assembly.Motor and Prop Assembly
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi MIR,
As your first model boat i think it is coming along nicely. It is surprising how long a model can take to make. But you are making progress, so take your time. It will look great when she is finished. Well done. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Shaft alignment and electroniscs
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ MIR ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Thanks for the kind words and your advice along the way. MIR
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4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ figtree7nts ( Admiral)
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Hi MIR,
You've done a marvelous job! Of making sure the shaft is true! Way to go! Great Job! Regards, Ed ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Shaft alignment and electroniscs
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ MIR ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Thanks Colin I Just put a brace under the shaft and the problem was solved. In the future I have to make my own alignment coupler. Best MIR
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๐ฌ Re: Shaft alignment and electroniscs
4 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Nicely done so far keep up the good work.
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๐ฌ Re: Shaft alignment and electroniscs
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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You are doing very well for a newcomer, if the shaft tube itself isn't damaged then you could just put new bearings in.
I often have to do this as my main hobby is the restoration of vintage model boats. Looking good so far keep trying and ask when you get stuck. Cheers Colin. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Shaft alignment and electroniscs
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ MIR ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Thanks for the kind words. I tried to drill out the brass tube that came from the UK from Mobile Marine but in drilling it obviously I was off. I do not have a lathe and I will have someone make me one in the future. Once I know my shaft size of the motor and the size of the shaft which I will look at before I purchase the next model so I have the right one. This was very challenging but I made a few adjustments and it is now working well. I am also going to put in an oiler tube as well. Thanks again for the advice.
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๐ฌ Re: Shaft alignment and electroniscs
4 years ago by ๐ฟ๐ฆ redpmg ( Commodore)
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The boat is coming along well - glad to see you are taking your time and not expecting it to be finished overnight. doing a great job !
And some very wise words coming from a so called "beginner" ( suspect you must have built other things before !) - single most important thing on any model boat is motor /shaft alignment (even if you are using Huco type couplings ) - full size boats too come to that. If you have a lathe an alignment tool is simple to make - with the right length piece of brass rod - gap to suit your coupling - (lucky to have lots of old round pin brass plugs - dismantled those and have lots of ideal size) All you need is one end drilled to suit the shaft and tother to suit the motor. With centre drills piece of cake.......If you don't possess a lathe sure a member of your club will be able to make you one easily. First one was made for me by a friend from hex brass . Sad that Graupner stopped making a lot of their nice items - amongst them the very useful gearboxes and shafts - included with those was a very nice setup for direct drive off a 380/400 motor - George Turner used those on all his fast models - only complaint was the plastic oiler fitting - so usually soldered a piece of brass tube on instead........ I bought all Westbourne's stock of them and any others found........Sadly only have a few left. They made things so simple .............. This ones going in a 16" model of a Fairey Huntress ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Shaft alignment and electroniscs
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi MIR,
This dose look a bit of a challenge especially for your first build. As you say the prop shaft and motor alignment is very important to get right and is not as easy as some people think. Keep up the good work. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Servo and Wiring and Main Deck
4 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi MIR. You are doing very well for your first build.
One thing I think I should add to the conversation is that you should always protect your electronics with a suitable fuse. Auto centres will sell small car fuses and a suitable fuse holder. This should be fitted as soon as you can. There are several different ampage values available from 1A to 40A more or less.๐๐๐ Peter. ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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No sweat Mir, that's why we are all here๐
BTW: MIR, isn't that Russian for peace? Name of their old space station. Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Servo and Wiring and Main Deck
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ MIR ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Thanks for all the information. I am glad you informed me of the battery issue and the shaft alignment alternatives on the next one. Best MIR
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๐ฌ Re: Servo and Wiring and Main Deck
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ MIR ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Still major issues ahead. Thanks for your support. Best MIR
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๐ฌ Re: Servo and Wiring and Main Deck
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Heartily agree Red๐๐๐ Especially re LiPos. And would add, if I may๐
Please folks - NEVER charge any battery inside a model!๐ฎ Even the highly tolerant SLAs are not completely sealed and can vent hydrogen gas if stressed by too high a charge voltage - causing high current to flow. If the hydrogen can collect inside the boat and you then do a bench test with a brushed motor any spark could have interesting results!๐ฅ At best launching your superstructure to the ceiling, at worst setting fire to your boat, hair, bench, workshop, house๐ญ depending on what's around the model. Apart from you!๐ค I find it more convenient to have my batteries on a separate charging bench (dining table๐) anyway๐ And I never usually charge any model battery type at more than 500mA, or 1Amp if I'm in a hurry. Never mind all that manufacturer's blurb about charging at 10C, 20C or whatever. That's just to encourage you to drastically shorten the life of your batteries so you buy more! Someone (JB?๐) will surely object to this 'but I charge mine with X Amps and they work fine ...' OK but for how long? And do they still charge to full capacity? Treat your batteries nicely and they will do the same for you - and your wallet!๐๐ค I never had a battery get too hot to touch while on charge unless there was a fault with it. Had a LiPo once with a short in the first cell!! Rapidly disappeared out to the garden in a fire retarding bag! Shaft/motor alignment: "you move the motor around on the mount (or move the mount) until it runs at its fastest no load speed on that voltage" We must be similarly ancient Red cos I dimly remember reading something like that as well. I use the normal drive battery for the tests and the ESC and a Servo Tester to adjust the volts applied to the motor. I then connect an ammeter between the battery and motor, jiggle the motor around until the current drawn is at minimum. Easier to discern than 'most revs' by ear.๐ The rest then as you describe Red๐ W.r.t " (shades of HMS Pinafore Doug - pardon the insubordination)" We (and I use that in the Royal sense - being Monarch of the Seas๐๐) will overlook your indiscretion in this instance Captain. We will assume 'Extenuating Circumstances'. However, what I can't forgive is ... that I now can't get the HMS Pinafore music gedoodle out of my head!๐๐๐ Cheers, FLEET//๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Servo and Wiring and Main Deck
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ figtree7nts ( Admiral)
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Hi MIR,
You model is coming along nicely! Very good, Keep up the awesome work! Cheers, Ed ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Servo and Wiring and Main Deck
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ MIR ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Thanks JB I am now getting ready to shape the hull and put on the cap rails. Best MIR
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4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ MIR ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Thank for all this advice. I now have the motor running pretty well and thanks for the advice on the battery situation. Best MIR
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๐ฌ Re: Servo and Wiring and Main Deck
4 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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Looking good so far Mir, looks very tidy.
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4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ MIR ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Learning great stuff everyday. Best MIR
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๐ฌ Re: Servo and Wiring and Main Deck
4 years ago by ๐ฟ๐ฆ redpmg ( Commodore)
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Hi MIR - Boat is coming along well - frustrating but its the normal sort of problems that you run across starting out - sometimes its also hard to remember the way you solved a problem before for an experienced modeller. Someone said the only way to gain experience is by making mistakes - you don't usually make them again . That applies to all of us - including very experienced modellers like Lord High Admiral Doug (shades of HMS Pinafore Doug - pardon the insubordination)
Forgot to add in the previous alignment discussion - there was another way suggested long ago in a now defunct magazine - with your motor loosely in situ joined to the propshaft connect it to a single battery (1.2 to 1.5v) - 7.2 & 6v motors will run very slowly - you move the motor around on the mount (or move the mount) until it runs at its fastest no load speed on that voltage - (you can usually estimate that by the sound it makes by running it prior to placing in situ) then set the motor in that position A dab of silicone /glue would do . Always another way for everything......... And by the way you can use a Z bend on one end of a servo rod cut to size - tiny adjustments being made on the threaded end. Threaded end of purchased servo rods usually come with the plastic connector here in SA. (Expensive so tend to make my own). There is also a better system called a servo saver which has a spring incorporated to reduce the risk of overloading the servo - used instead of the Z bend. Your problem with the radio was probably caused by the fact they all tend to be made in China - and the Chingelese instructions are never clear......... That's why its useful to belong to a club or this forum where you can seek advice One thing further - Nimh batteries can tend to get very hot when charging - had a set that would almost burn you - lasted 5 years though. Used virtually every weekend once or twice. So do Ni Cads which also tend to explode if seriously overcharged or charged too fast . Lead acids can swell and leak - and its almost suicidal to charge Lipo's in situ. They need to be in a fireproof container . So I would tend to rather remove the batteries for charging if you can do so. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Servo and Wiring and Main Deck
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi MIR,
It is good to see you are making progress. Like most things the more you do something the better you become at it, so carry on and keep up the good work. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Stanchions and other issues.
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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"never knew it could be this much fun ..."
Good to hear Mir, that's what it's all about๐ Like what I see so far very much๐ "The good news is the model has come out of dry dock." Does that mean that she's already launched and now in the 'wet' fitting out dock? All the best, Doug ๐ ▲
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4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ MIR ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Thanks made the corrections on the stanchions today. Best MIR
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4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ MIR ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Thanks never knew it could be this much fun. Best MIR
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๐ฌ Re: Stanchions and other issues.
4 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ figtree7nts ( Admiral)
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Hi MIR,
Your doing a good job on your model! Keep up the good work! Regards, Ed ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Stanchions and other issues.
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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She is coming along nicely.
Keep it up. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Starting to finally assemble the Trawler
3 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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Sheโs looking good!! Glad you kept on it and saw the build through.๐
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3 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ figtree7nts ( Admiral)
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Hi MIR,
You have done a great job of it! She's coming along nicely! Cheers, Ed ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Starting to finally assemble the Trawler
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Peter,
That is something i will have to discuss with you at a latter date. LOL!! Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Starting to finally assemble the Trawler
3 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi MIR.
She is looking really nice. I like the wood colouring. It breaks up the white really well. What are these things "instructions" that you refer to Martin. By the way MIR, give yourself an A. Peter.๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Starting to finally assemble the Trawler
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi MIR,
It is nice to see you are making headway. As a new builder you are now discovering that even model boat kit's are not as easy as most people think. Understanding the instructions and drawings is a skill in it's self. Keep up the good work. Martin555. ▲
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