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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) RESTORATION
3 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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Good find Baz, I have kept all my old plans/assembly drawings as well (mostly Graupner boat and plane assembly plans, along with other plane kit and scratch plans ) I may just purchase a plan from Sarik if they still have one, for next winters' project, and as mentioned, scale it up a bit, (if we can still get balsa!). In short supply here at the moment. If it comes to the crunch, there's always f/glass and plastic, but I prefer wood.
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Shipyard Baz ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) RESTORATION
3 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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Re - you have certainly worked your magic on this one
Thanks Martin, but I only attempted it because I had never seen another one like it, and I cant resist 'orphans' in need๐ JB ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) RESTORATION
3 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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Re - I think I would have used it as firewood.๐
Would have been gone in a flash Graham, wouldn't have even made good kindling๐ JB ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) RESTORATION
3 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Baz, looks good and an interesting conversion. Looks like a good project for you to restore with modern gear. I think this one may have been built around the same time but I've never seen another one here. I wondered if it might have come from the UK as it doesn't seem like a usual subject for NZ modellers.
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) RESTORATION
3 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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Thanks Colin, I won't tell you what I said when the guy gave it to me and my finger went through the hull๐
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) RESTORATION
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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You have given a new meaning to restoration, it's a fine piece of workmanship and now you have a beautiful broads cruiser.
Well done shipmate, Colin. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) RESTORATION
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Shipyard Baz ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Nicely done, I made the Fairacre ll, around 1970, the only boat plan I ever purchased (5/-) five bob. Still have the plan, here's mine but with my centre cabin conversion, the photo is dated 1977c. The motor was a Decaperm Geared and Macgregor MR200 transmitter, single-channel (Deac). Still have the hull!
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) RESTORATION
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Jb,
That is a very nice boat. It is hard to believe considering the state she was in before. You have certainly worked your magic on this one. Well done. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) RESTORATION
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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JB,
Master of the understatement: โconsidering it's previous state I think it's a slight improvementโ ! Nice restoration. Amazing what can be achieved with a little determination ๐ I think I would have used it as firewood.๐ Graham93 ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) RESTORATION
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Jb,
Looks like your time researching has paid off. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) RESTORATION
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Jb,
you certainly can turn out some real master pieces. Well done. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) RESTORATION AND CURRENT REFURBISHMENT
3 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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Fun fact Martin, a young guy, ( Sam Morgan) started that site with his father (Gareth -who had plenty of dosh and helped him get started) he later sold it to Fairfax media (Aust) for $770m - not a bad profit!!๐ (not to mention the millions he made while he ran the site)
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Jb,
it is only worth me looking at that site if the models are the same price as a Margarine tub LOL!!! Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) RESTORATION AND CURRENT REFURBISHMENT
3 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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That's the one Martin, check out the r/c boats for sale , might be something of interest. Been a few interesting models quite cheap lately. Been tempted, but have enough already๐
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) RESTORATION AND CURRENT REFURBISHMENT
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Jb,
The site you refer to dose it have a little blue Kiwi legging it across the top left screen ? Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) RESTORATION AND CURRENT REFURBISHMENT
3 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Martin, they were left-over curtains from a Graupner 'Commodore' I built in 1978. Knew if I kept them long enough, I'd find a use for them๐
I was tempted to buy the blue one which was on our 'Trade Me' sellers site,- sort of like a Kiwi E-Bay, - (see if you can look at it from there - no I don't mean with binoculars Martin๐) Might possibly have been my old one as there were probably not many sold in NZ due to the huge price in those days, (I bought it tax and duty free while working on Norfolk Island) JB ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) RESTORATION AND CURRENT REFURBISHMENT
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Jb,
I don't think you mentioned how you did the curtains for this beauty. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES STARCRAFT) MORE UPGRADES
3 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Mike, the clever Chinese put both grub screws on the same side in a light alloy coupling, so when you spin them fast they vibrate quite badly. They are only really made for small slow speed drives such as home type CNC routers with small stepper motors etc. They are also cut in a particular hand, so if you spin them the wrong way fast with a load on, they can try and unwind and distort.
The jet unit in the my Hartley model came with one, which was the wrong hand for the jet unit, and vibrated so badly it was unusable. I had no luck finding a suitable precision coupling to fit the gap between mount and shaft, so I ended up making a coupling using silicone tube inside a firm plastic tube. It runs quite smoothly with the 3000kv in-runner which can reach 30A static. Very hard to find a coupling which runs smoothly (planes are the same with the prop adaptors) as the Chinese insist on making their shafts or coupling holes undersize or oversize. It's a real pain with plane motors as balance is critical. A lot of Chinese motors have slop in the shafts brand new. They can't seem to grasp the idea that say, a 4mm ID bearing will take a 4mm shaft with a polish, they insist on taking .02 off the shaft to make it fit, (possibly for ease of assembly ?) I think perhaps if you want a precision coupling you have to go German. JB ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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I'm puzzled by the cable tie surely the spiral coupling wasn't that bad to require quite a large piece of plastic to balance it?
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES STARCRAFT) MORE UPGRADES
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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JB.
She is definitely a nice looking boat. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES STARCRAFT) MORE UPGRADES
3 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Martin, it doesn't really need any support as it has an 8mm OD thick walled outer with a 4mm shaft. only hangs out by about 3". It has a good amount of epoxy holding it in anyhow. It had been used with a glow motor or diesel originally, but I took the shaft out and replaced it with a better one as the original had worn out the bushes. Boat is only 30" long x 8"wide. Would probably be nice in a bigger scale, as there are plenty of nice features you could add. (see pic)
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES STARCRAFT) MORE UPGRADES
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi JB,
You certainly have a serious case of Tinker-itus LOL!! I noticed you have no 'P' or 'A' bracket on the outer prop shaft. Perhaps it it not long enough to need one it is difficult to tell/work out the scale. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES STARCRAFT) MORE UPGRADES
3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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I like it.Well done.
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES STARCRAFT) MORE UPGRADES
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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JB,
I like the recycling of the Christmas tree LED's And the painted tape idea. I have used tape to hide wiring before and if trimmed neatly then painted no-one will know, and as you say easy to change wiring then re tape and paint. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) NEW MOTOR AND ESC
3 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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You know me too well Martin ๐ Still may chuck in a smoky exhaust if I get bored๐๐
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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JB,
I will admit it is a nice looking boat. The only reason you are thinking of scaling it up is so you can fit some more doodads in LOL!!!! Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) NEW MOTOR AND ESC
3 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Martin, was a bit breezy today and a mite cold (about 17c) but we have become used to temps in the high 20s for almost a year of near drought, so anything under 20 seems freezing now. We are normally around 12c at this time of year. Wind was about 10mph but didn't bother the boat at all, and it runs very cleanly. Tempted to buy the plan and scale it up to 40" but I think I have enough models already, - but you never know๐
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๐ฌ Re: 'FAIRACRE' BROADS CRUISER (BATES LOOK ALIKE) NEW MOTOR AND ESC
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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She looks good on the water to me JB.
You have a very nice peaceful place there for your boats. Martin555. ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Just spent the day on the Broads and saw one or two similar looking boats. So much better than most of the modern fibreglass ones.
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