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๐ฌ Re: Sea Queen Restoration
3 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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"Wifeโs had me painting the Garage today ๐ "
Good practise Simon ๐๐ So far so good, at least you're getting through the elbow grease part. Heading towards the fun part - Masking ๐ค but then Pssst psst psst new colour spraying. Yeee Haaa! ๐ Patience is a virtue - AND a definite asset when restoring vintage wooden model boats! Ask me how I know ๐ then ask Colin ๐๐คฃ Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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That looks like a nice solid and quite clean example you've bought there. Mine had delamination of some bulkheads, not too bad a job to fix though.
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๐ฌ Re: Sea Queen Restoration
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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That's a good start to your project, doesn't look like there's any delamination so far and the interior is too clean to have had a diesel or glowplug engine so I think she had a large water cooled electric motor.
Depending on the motor and esc you decide to fit the water pickup and outlet may be useful. I often use water cooled excess. Keep it up shipmate, cheers Colin. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Sea Queen Restoration
3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Good start getting things apart and ready for sanding.For me taking on a refit job can be more work than starting from new non the less it is satisfying when done. Enjoy the process keep us updated .
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๐ฌ Sea Queen Restoration
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Simon.
Well done.your into the blog section. Good to see some interior pictures. You clearly have a good deal of space to play with. Clearly the boat was fitted with a non electric motor as we can see the water cooling intake behind where the old prop was. You have a lot of remedial work to do by the look of things to make good after removing the water intake etc. Looking forward to the next update,but this is a lovely project. Regards Bill. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: More Sanding
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Plenty more elbow grease required Sifi but she is coming along nicely.
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๐ฌ Re: More Sanding
3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Big job ahead well done.Looks good so far.
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๐ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐คฏ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Ok Colin, I promise. Iโm not that good anyway. Just want to remove some of the bad ones ๐ฎ
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Lol. Ok Martin, Iโll do my best ๐
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๐ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐คฏ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Don't lose all the imperfections, that's part of the character of these vintage boats. Those little marks and imperfections tell the story.
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๐ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐คฏ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Cheers, Thank god for electric sanders ๐คฃ
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๐ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐คฏ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sifi,
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๐ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐คฏ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Cheers Martin. Yes sheโs coming up very nicely really considering her age. Going to try and put some undercoat on the hull now. That should show up the imperfections โน๏ธ
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๐ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐คฏ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Simon,
It sounds like most of the horrible stuff is almost over and you can start to enjoy getting this great model back to how she should be. Great work. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐คฏ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Seaspray ( Warrant Officer)
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Like this model and it is all wood. Nice job there rubbing down
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๐ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐คฏ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Cheers Will & Rick. Yep, Iโll keep plugging away ๐
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๐ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐คฏ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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Making good progress.
It's going to be a nice boat when it's done. Keep up the good work. Will ▲
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๐ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐คฏ
3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Simon take your time if you do plank and all will work out well.
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๐ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
3 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Enjoy Martin ๐
My Blogs are perhaps a little unorthodox ๐ but I hope informative! Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Hi Doug, Thanks for the link on the Sea Scout. Iโm going to look at it now ๐๐
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๐ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
3 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Simon,
Here's the link to my hull treatment of my Sea Scout renovation. Scroll down to The Lone Ranger Rides Again or Hull Finishing ;-)) Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Well explained Doug, I agree with you on flaking car body filler. Using a fine grade polyester putty is easy and cleans up well.
After 30 plus years renovating basket cases I never try for perfection as it removes the history of life from the model. Cheers Colin. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
3 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi SiFi,
Afraid I can't endorse Seapray's advice re "Try and get the P 38 when it is really soft and spread a thin layer all the way along the model like a new skin." If you do that you'll be working backwards. You'll end up with more defects and sanding to do than you have now. Not only that, thin extended layers of filler have an irritating habit of flaking off over time, especially if they get knocked and banged. When I get to the stage that you have I use a very fine plastic putty, such as Revell, for the very small defects. For the larger ones, such as your screw heads I use a very fine polyester finishing filler. Check out my Sea Scout Jessica and Fish Cutter Gina 2 for examples of hull restorations - with generous dollops of patience as the main ingredient! ๐ Oh, and b4 I forget; apply filler with an old credit card - nice and flexible fills small pits and cracks easily without too much excess to have to sand back, and to boot it's easy to clean when the filler is hardened! Just flex it ๐ I rarely use an electric sander, and then only in the initial stages for shaping/flattening off the hull, or removing old paint etc, before any filling or priming commences. During priming, finishing filling, painting I use Tamiya wet/dry sanding sponges, in grades from 180/240 up to (or is that down to?) 3000 before the final lacquer coat. However you do your hull try to enjoy the process, you'll learn more๐ and don't forget the patience ๐ Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Seaspray ( Warrant Officer)
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Keep using the P 38 tackle each hole and imperfection separately. You just need a very light spray of primer/filler each time till you see the holes and imperfections are smooth. Once this is near enough perfect ( if there is such a thing) Try and get the P 38 when it is really soft and spread a thin layer all the way along the model like a new skin. Hopefully you have a little electric which helps a lot
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๐ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Ok cheers Geoff, Thanks for the Advice ๐
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๐ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Looks like you got a lovely finish on yours Seaspray. Gives me a bit of confidence to keep going ๐
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๐ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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I use Wickes wood filler which works well and fills well and stays put. Easily sanded to fit its surroundings.
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๐ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Seaspray ( Warrant Officer)
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๐ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Cheers Seaspray, I like the idea of a filler primer. I might pop out and get one of those tomorrow then and give that a try. I think Iโve got it to a nice smooth surface overall just these small splits and screw holes. Iโll keep going ๐
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Hi Martin, No, no fibreglass. Iโm just trying to get a reasonably smooth surface before painting to a gloss finish. I canโt believe how many holes and cracks have appeared ๐
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๐ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Ok Rick cheers. Iโve got some fine surface filler now so Iโll sand it down with the grades you said. More bloody sanding ๐. ๐
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๐ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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P38 is the best filler I've found
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๐ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Seaspray ( Warrant Officer)
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I.ve been using P38 for years. you don't really see the holes and rough surfaces till you spray with primer. then start again rub down and spray, I've also used a filler primer all got from Halfords. If its really rough I use a small electric sander. Sometimes its best to concentrate on the worst areas first.
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๐ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sifi,
It is amazing what shows up when you give it a coat of primer. I have used ordinary DIY wood filler and have had no problems. Are you planning on Fibreglassing the Hull ? Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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As far as filler I have used car bondo and wood filler products.The best I can say is to be able to sand to a smooth finish using fine sand paper.The finer you use will
give you the best result.Start with a low number 100 grit and move up to 1000 or more. The finer you go the smother the finish will.For me it is time and patents. Rick ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Getting close to being acceptable
3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Character so right Si artistic license.
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3 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Looking good Si ๐
Keep it up. Hope the rhino doesn't tread on it!! ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Getting close to being acceptable
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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That's looking really solid and smooth, you obviously followed Doug's advice.
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๐ฌ Re: Getting close to being acceptable
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Good evening Sifi, she's looking good.
What colours will you be using?? Keep it up shipmate, cheers Colin. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Getting close to being acceptable
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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She is taking shape now.
Looking good. Keep it up. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Bit more progress
2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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Missed that boat Doug.
I guess I was at the train station when my Ship came in.๐ฎ๐ฎ Trev ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Dream on Trev ๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค
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๐ฌ Re: Bit more progress
2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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That would work for me, Colin.
Never was able to achieve it though๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ Trev ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Bit more progress
2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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Spot On Doug ๐๐๐
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๐ฌ Re: Bit more progress
2 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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๐ฌ Re: Bit more progress
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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That's a good ploy boatshed, let her buy one and tell her you will help her with it, my wife has 3 now??? But she thinks it's normal for her to share in the modelling, which is lucky for me, and I help her with her dolls houses. I do the technical stuff and she does the fidddley bits that my arthritis stops me doing.
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๐ฌ Re: Bit more progress
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง BOATSHED ( Lieutenant)
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My Sea Queen is still sitting on the shelf under the workbench in the Boat Shed. She's been there for about 6 year's. The Sea Commander is on another shelf at the end of the shed. They cannot see each other' if they could I think they might have some harsh word sto asy about me. A bit like my wife, "There are so many boat's in here and none of them seem to be getting anything done on them. Oh No he's only gone and bought another one". Just as well the one's in the shed can't see the other four in the house. And the Lady wife is not too happy about that either. ๐ค๐๐ I think she thinks that I call boot fair's Boat Fair's because I have bought five from them. and I even got HER to pay ยฃ20 for one for me. ๐
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๐ฌ Re: Bit more progress
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Lordgord ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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๐ฌ Re: Bit more progress
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Robertcooper ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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This ship is looking very good keep it up.
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๐ฌ Re: Bit more progress
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Thanks Nerys, Yes she has been well built so itโs been fairly easy so far. Iโm just doing a bit here and there between work. This one was destined for the skip before I got it. Itโs a shame a lot of them probably end up that way.
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๐ฌ Re: Bit more progress
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Cheers Colin, yes sheโs coming along nicely now. Ive taken out the old rudder and got a new one ready to fit. Just hope she doesnโt leak on her Maiden ๐ค
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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That's a good restoration you are doing on that old SeaQueen. She's beginning to look quite respectable. These old boats are well worth restoring and you'll have a boat to be proud of when she's finished.
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๐ฌ Re: Bit more progress
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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That's a really sympathetic restoration you are doing, well done.
These old aerokits models deserve preservation. Cheers Colin. ▲
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3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Looks good SI
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Robertcooper ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Itโs looking very good. Keep up with the hard work.
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Looking good Si.
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