|||
Not Registered
Go AD FREE & get your membership medal
BRONZE
Less Ads
SILVER
GOLD
Ad Free
Cancel
Anytime
ยฃ2.50
ยฃ4.50
ยฃ6.50
Subscribe
Go AD FREE & get your membership medal
BRONZE
Less Ads
SILVER
GOLD
Ad Free
For A Whole Year!
ยฃ25
ยฃ45
ยฃ65
Donate
You Will Be Helping Towards:

  • Domain Fees
  • Security Certificates
  • iOS & Android App Fees
  • Website Hosting
  • Fast Servers
  • Data Backups
  • Upkeep & Maintenance
  • Administration Costs

    Without your support the website wouldn't be what it is today.

    Please consider donating towards these fees to help keep us afloat.

    Read more

    All donations are securely managed through PayPal.

    Many thanks for your kind support
  • Join Us On Social Media!
    Download The App!

    Login To
    Remove Ads
    Login To
    Remove Ads

    Model Boats Website
    Model Boats Website
    Home
    Forum
    Build Blogs
    Media Gallery
    Boat Clubs & Lakes
    Events
    Boat Harbour
    How-To Articles
    Plans & Docs
    Useful Links
    VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT?
    98 Posts ยท 28 Followers ยท 538 Photos ยท 684 Likes
    Began 3 years ago by
    Fleet Admiral
    New Zealand
    Follow This Thread
    Not currently following
    > Click to follow
    Latest Post 11 months ago by
    Fleet Admiral
    New Zealand
    Oldest posts shown first   (Show Newest First) (Print Booklet)
    ๐Ÿ“ VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT?
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 11 Likes ยท 10 Comments
    Flag
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Add Comment
    Threw a dart at a bunch of free plans and came up with this one (old MM plan) No matter what I chose, I would always see something else and wish I'd built that instead, but this has possibilities for a few improvements to the hull and a bit of room for extra 'stuff'. I had it printed originally to A-O size, but it came out a tad large, so I scaled it back to 33" x 10" which should make a good sized model. If I'd gone with the original print size (48") it would have required a weed-eater motor, my own forest, and a trailer๐Ÿ˜. At 33" it will suit 3ft balsa sheets.

    Went up to the print place and got it done yesterday, came home and did the bulkhead tracings, then transferred those to some 4mm light ply and cut them roughly to size. Later today I might give them a haircut to the final shape with my small bandsaw. Next job will be to find some spruce for the framing, which could be a challenge, as the main (almost only) model shop in Auckland, is a bit light on for most modelling wood at present.

    I'll build it my usual way, - upside down with a central square hardwood spine screwed to the board, with the tops of the bulkheads notched to fit over it and all blocked in place. Once planked and glassed, the spine can be cut out in the required areas. This model could take a while, as I have a dozen other jobs which need doing.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT?
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 149 Views ยท 3 Likes
    Flag
    Hi John, thanks for that info, I originally had no idea of the size or even the plan No. It is now almost twice the size and is turning out to be only 'reasonably easy' now with the scale changing a number of things (timber sizes etc which would not work round curves) and now have to be laminated. I've had to alter a number of things so far, and there are more changes to come (big balsa bow and transom blocks have to go and will need to be be built up instead). Transom block alone would need to be 60x230x100 and cost about $30 in balsa and need a lot of 'whittlin' and sanding ! (not to mention unnecessary weight) I do enjoy a challenge though๐Ÿ˜

    JB
    Login To
    Remove Ads

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT?
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง JOHN ( Midshipman)
    โœง 165 Views ยท 4 Likes
    Flag
    Hi there

    just been looking through an 'old' Plans Handbook - it's that old its falling apart :-) and I came across plans for a run about MM480 and this is the bumph that goes with it :

    'an 18 inch sporty speedboat based on a Chris-Craft design' a 6 inch beam idea for towing a small scale water skier. It's just large enough for a miniature radio control.

    Ply construction and it has two stars = easy construction' .

    John
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT?
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 152 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    Hi Peter, thanks, wouldn't mind the info if it's not too much trouble, I may only have 1 of perhaps 2 sheets by the looks of it. This was the only info on the plan.

    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT?
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฆ redpmg ( Commodore)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Have the original blurb & plan somewhere in my files JB . Don't remember correctly but think it was around 21inch or so. Do you want the blurb ? - can dig it out easily enough .
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT?
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 154 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Hi Peter, it's an old MM plan done by the MM staff. Not sure what the original length was as there is no detail on the drawing I have. Nothing matches of course now I've changed the scale, and I'm not sure it's a great plan, as when I cut all the bulkheads they were miles out in some cases, (could be the printer at the print shop not scaling things properly), so I've had to do a lot of fiddling and re cutting to get things somewhere near for now.

    Once I get it all centred and propped on the board I will get a better idea of what needs chopping or packing. It's going to be a bit of a challenge I think. Biggest problem is both the deck and the keel are curved which makes it hard to judge what's right. I'm having to guess at what's there and have changed my mind a few times already๐Ÿ˜. I've glued the long aft propshaft blocks to the keel, but have now decided (almost๐Ÿ˜) to go with twins instead I'll get there eventually. Good thing about wood, you can hack it into any shape you want.๐Ÿ˜

    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT?
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    JB.
    Silly me.
    What was i thinking LOL!!


    martin555.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT?
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฆ redpmg ( Commodore)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Hi JB - Looks like the Runabout plan - that was kitted either by Amati or Mantua - think the latter. But a lot smaller than you are proposing - looking forward to your usual detailed build but remember even at that size it cant support the kitchen sink - and don't forget the dizzy blonde sunbather............
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT?
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 154 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    Re It strikes me that this one will not have a lot of working doodads

    Where did you get that idea from Martin ???๐Ÿ˜‚ it has lots of room for doodads ๐Ÿ˜ and I have plenty of them๐Ÿ˜. I'll have to try and build it lighter than my usual 'tanks' if I'm going to use one of the motors I have in my collection, as it's going to be reasonably large overall. Not sure if it will be brushed or brushless yet, that might have to wait till the 'sea trials'.
    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT?
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 158 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    I bet this is going to look good when it is finished JB.
    It strikes me that this one will not have a lot of working doodads.
    Looking forward to the next instalment.

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT?
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 154 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Looks to be a good next build..
    Rick
    Login To
    Remove Ads

    ๐Ÿ“ VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 9 Likes ยท 2 Comments
    Flag
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Add Comment
    I've now trimmed and made a few adjustments to the bulkheads, and lined up and glued Nos 2,3,5,6 as I am reasonably happy with them. A few of the bulkheads were not equal side to side on the plan and have been shimmed to correct this. The shape is not too bad, but I think it could have been a bit fuller in the bow at the chine. I might add a bit on frame BH2 later, as I was thinking of building a slight flare in (from BH3 forward), rather than have the bow planked flat sided.

    I was initially hoping to build it upside down, but due to the fact it is all compound curves and the way it has been drawn, it would have required a board full of support blocks for the different heights of the bulkheads, (sort of like tying to build a 3 dimensional banana) I ended up installing a partial half thickness rear thick keel (originally for a shaft and rudder support I think) and used that to screw the rear end down on the board. I added a couple of blocks at the front to keep the keel straight as well.

    I'll be off to the hardware tomorrow to buy a couple of right angle shelf brackets to hold the stem steady for framing, and some more small wood blocks from the Chinese $2 shop for assembly props. I'll have to find some 10x3 balsa strip (or cut some sheet down) to laminate the framing,- especially the gunwale as it looks like it is moulded over and may need building up for sanding to shape.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 154 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Hi Martin, there should probably be no need to cut them all out, as the plan doesn't call for it, but I might cut out no 3 for a bit more cockpit space later . I haven't glued in no 4 yet so I can get at it before everything is permanent. I have actually just shortened no 4 some more to make a large motor and possibly battery/ESC space. It was originally 18" for diesel or small electric, but since it is now almost twice the size (had no idea of the size till Peter and John updated the info on the model) it's got a lot more room to play with.

    To give you an idea, the motor area is about 10"x 9.5" x 5" deep and the rear bay is 9.5"x 8.5" x 4" deep, so tons of room ! Bay 2 could just be for RC and stereo๐Ÿ˜

    JB

    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 157 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    You are underway now Fleet.
    One question, Is there any reason you have not cut out the insides to frames 2,3,5.?

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ“ VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 8 Likes ยท 16 Comments
    Flag
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Add Comment
    Done a bit more work on getting the lines looking right today and it's starting to look better. I bought a couple of shelf brackets today, and used them to hold the front structure firmly in place, as with the amount of 'rocker' in the keel, the front half of it was off the board and very flexible and impossible to work on.

    Bought a marking gauge as well to mark the 3mm sheet I bought to use for the strips to laminate the gunwale frames. These have to be laminated, as scaling the boat up to 33" from 18", meant that the timber scaled as well, (obviously), and the now 10mmx10mm framing would have been impossible to bend. A bit of packing will be involved but will not be seen once the deck is on etc.

    I am going to try and modify the marking gauge into a balsa slitter (there were some made for plane work years ago, not sure if they still do them) as it would be handy to be able to slit your own balsa (they charge near double the whole sheet price for strips )

    I've just re-re modified bulkhead 4 to give a bit more room to play with in the 'engine room'. Might be able to fit everything in one compartment as it's quite roomy. The pics show a brushed 550 motor for scale (probably fitting 2 of these, running on 3s LiPos and HV ESCs.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 155 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Hi Peter, I think the bow is almost going to be solid by the time I add blocks and wedges etc, plus it has 4 laminated 3mmx10mm rails coming through (4 strips per rail, - ie 12x10mm,- plus an intended hardwood stringer between). I might look at laying Mahogany over balsa sheet if I can find any, (hard enough to find balsa now,)- even shelves in supermarkets are getting sparse at times due to slow shipping,- a lot of ships are by-passing NZ ports and businesses are running short of products and materials.

    When I first started work in a timber yard / early hardware mega store back in the early 70s, they used to import shiploads of Mahogany boards (around 24"x 6") and process them and re- ship them. They also imported Canadian Cedar for building cladding, as they were affiliated with a Canadian Lumber company. You don't see Mahogany like that any more, and it's extremely hard to find for full sized boat trim and $$$$$$$. Years ago, when I was fitting out my Hartley, I bought a couple of 4ft lengths of 4x4" Taun (hardwood) for the engine bearers which cost me a spleen, as it could only be purchased from a specialist timber importer. It would now cost a spleen, leg and a kidney๐Ÿ˜

    JB
    Login To
    Remove Ads

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฆ redpmg ( Commodore)
    โœง 157 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Hi JB - look for some Marquetry puzzles - some have large pieces of Mahogany veneer - remember you only have to use it up to the waterline . We have a veneer supplier based in Jobg - presume he supplies the plywood manufacturers etc. You must have something similar in NZ.

    Suggested the double planking as it reinforces the sharp end like the original balsa block - in case of high speed contact with a solid object...............

    Does happen from time to time unfortunately . Last time with me boat ran out of radio range and into the cliffs (scale) - did not do it much good...................
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 155 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Hi Peter, it's going to be glassed over, so it should be strong enough without double planking, (I'd love to plank it in Mahogany and varnish it, but too hard to find, - and expensive) but I think you are right,- a slight flare would look good if I can work it in. I have another idea for the colour which should suit it.

    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฆ redpmg ( Commodore)
    โœง 157 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    You are talking about flaring the bow I suppose JB - apart from looking good it helps keep the boat dry. Would suggest you do so and only wide sheet plank as far as the first former - you will probably have to add a another few stringers between the bow & first former for the flare. Further suggest you double diagonal plank that for strength & durability using narrow planking . Don't thank me Grandma............
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 155 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Hi Peter, still have a few mods to do for the framing as I think it needs another stringer between top an bottom to give the balsa sheet more support. As it is, I think a sheet will roll nicely round the shape, but if I put a small flare (mainly for aesthetic reasons) it might make things a bit harder. I could always use small sheets to wrap/plank a small flare I suppose.

    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 155 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    Hi Martin,- the first vid is something more like it, but I'd use a mounted knife rather than a saw. Can't see the guys' point in the second vid, as the bench saw he has, probably has a Vernier scale which he is using as he moves the fence out each time. If you cut to the outside this way, it will automatically produce a thin offcut, so perhaps his 'gauge' is just for measuring when he moves the fence out. You can do the same thing with a set of 'fingers'.

    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฆ redpmg ( Commodore)
    โœง 157 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Coming along great JB - beginning to look the part - looking forward to seeing what additions you make.

    Looking at the latest pics was thinking how few bulkheads you need on the average hard chine hull unlike the the round bilge ones - they definitely need more . Busy converting a round bilge to multi chine in Corel - be interesting to see how that comes out in reality. Don't know why I start these things - you have far more sense than I in completing one model before starting the next.....
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 4 Likes
    Flag
    JB.
    Do you mean something like this.


    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    Hi Martin, that's sort of the thing, but I was thinking more like a saw bench style with a moveable fence, so you can get a longer reach. Might be able to mount a multi tool with a thin blade on something as well. I'll have a look in my bits and pieces sometime and see what I cam come up with. I'd like to make one using industrial linen sheet (reinforced Formica), but it's horrendously expensive,-nice to machine though, and you can drill and tap it as well.

    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 3 Likes
    Flag
    Hi JB,
    Here is a simple Balsa splitter.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    HI Martin, I've found those same splitters locally ($27) but they don't do very wide strips. Still could be handy though for the smaller stuff๐Ÿ‘.

    JB
    Login To
    Remove Ads

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 157 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Well done coming along well. Like Ron I like your clamping pieces.
    Rick
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    Hi Martin, thanks for that info. I was thinking of a small tabletop version for splitting sheets, and one like this might be ideal, bolted to a board so you can pull a sheet through.

    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Hi Ron, they are made from cheap Chinese coat hanger clips. I was trying to find clamps like this to hold stringers while framing, but there appeared to be nothing like this available. I'd been trying to think of something like this for years, but the brain wouldn't think sideways๐Ÿ˜, then suddenly it clicked. I used my angle grinder to slot the ends and took off the sharp bits with a file. They work well up to about 5mm square. As you can see in the pic of my Hartley framing, they work sideways over the stringer onto the bulkhead. Obviously you can us them the normal way as well.

    PS, forgot to mention, these clamps come on a long rod, which is removed, and the clamps individually bolted with 3mm bolts with Loctited nuts.

    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Admiral)
    โœง 158 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    I like the clamps you are using, where did you get them?
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 3 Likes
    Flag
    Starting to take shape JB.
    Keep it up.

    You can still get the Balsa splitter but they are easy to make.


    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Balsa-Stripper-Cutting-Tools-Scratch-Miniatures-Scene
    ๐Ÿ“ VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 5 Likes ยท 2 Comments
    Flag
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Add Comment
    Been doing a bit more chine and gunwale laminating (4-3mmx10mm laminations each) looks a bit rough, but most will be sanded to shape later before sheeting). I've also had a play with the new shape for the transom, which as mentioned has to be built up due to its' new scaled up size. It will be a different shape to the plan, but it should allow me to bend thin ply round it for varnishing. Just 'chain-sawing on the fly' as I usually tend to do๐Ÿ˜.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 157 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    I like it JB coming along nicely.
    Rick
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    Hi JB,
    I can see her Transom taking shape now.
    Keep up the good work.

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ“ VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 157 Views ยท 6 Likes ยท 7 Comments
    Flag
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Add Comment
    Off the rack now and found a few adjustments had to be made, as things had moved a bit. I had to cut and slide bulkhead 5 over about 4mm, as it had moved on the keel slot, (probably should have put another shelf bracket there). Patient's well (and in recovery) now I think. Took the big machinery -Emco star (which I do most of my bandsawing and disk sanding on) and belt sander) to the over laminations on the gunwale and chine rails to speed things up, and finished them off with a block to the correct angles. Also belt sanded the rear keel pine blocks to match the bottom angles, (my Einhell belt sander has a flip up front guard which lets you see what you are doing,- very handy)

    I have glued in most of the sheet support pieces to the bulkheads, and the large sheet supports at the stern, as it will require an extra piece added to the main sheet, due to the larger scale. Also added extra bulking out pieces here and there, which will also be sanded down for sheet supports (extra gluing area and easy to push modelling pins into) Looks reasonably straight now, (using eyeometry) and any small corrections can be made by over sheeting and sanding straight.

    Not the easiest hull to do framing wise as mentioned, due to all the compound curves, ie the gunwale starts at one angle, Right- through another angle and rolls the other way-left to the transom,- lots of sanding re laminating and more sanding, (like twisting a square rod and bending it inwards and downwards at the same time. Lots of fun๐Ÿ˜ Getting there slowly.

    The Austrian Emcostar is one of the handiest tools you could have for modelling,- has a 1/4"bandsaw, belt sander, disc sander, bench saw and jigsaw, and scroll saw plus you could get other attachments such as a wood lathe to go on the back end. Unfortunately not produced any more, but would be rather expensive these days if they were. Still have a big following round the world, as they have lasted well due to the beautiful and clever engineering.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    Sorry JB,
    But i think i am wired wrong for fast charging.LOL!!

    Martin555.
    Login To
    Remove Ads

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    Hi martin, do you find that shaving your head lets you charge faster in the sun ?๐Ÿ˜‚

    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    My Bio Digital Tools are a bit the same Colin, find I need power everything these days๐Ÿ˜

    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 157 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    As they say in business Martin one hand washes the other LOL
    Rick
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 158 Views ยท 4 Likes
    Flag
    Hey there Martin, my multi purpose tools seem defective any chance I can borrow yours.
    Cheers Colin.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 157 Views ยท 3 Likes
    Flag
    Nice work.
    I like the multi purpose tool JB.


    Over here in the U.K. I have a multi purpose tool too.(see attached photo)
    Occasionally it is solar powered if i sit in the garden with no hat on LOL!!

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 157 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    I would say JB that having all though's tool in one machine cuts down on space and time. The boats coming nicely.
    Rick
    ๐Ÿ“ VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 155 Views ยท 5 Likes ยท 8 Comments
    Flag
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Add Comment
    Didn't like the look of the bow curves, so it was out with the chainsaw and hacking the offending bits off. I have now made a ply sub deck which is a much better shape (should have made solid forms at the bow anyway,- due to the tight curve). The different density of the balsa had given one side a better curve than the other. Added some more sheet supports to the bulkheads and reshaped the transom slightly. Almost ready to start sheeting.

    I was thinking of veneering the hull sides, but veneer is hard to find in the right size (enough to do the sides in one piece) and the bits I have found are over $100 for an 800x250 piece. I found some Midwest and Bud Nosen Models (US) veneer pieces in a local art supplies at $15 a sheet which I will use for the transom and trims. I bought 1 maple and 1 mahogany, but not sure which I'll use yet. I got the last piece of mahogany, but there are still a number of maple sheets there if I need them.

    Unfortunately they are not long enough or wide enough to cover the sides, so I would have to make 3 pieces each side to cover them. Worked out it would cost around $70 to do, but I don't want to spend that much, just for covering. I have ordered 2- 300mm shafts from Ali Expr which should arrive in a month or so. Unfortunately we don't have any model boat stuff sold in NZ any more, so everything has to come from CMB, Ali Expr etc which is at least a month + per order. You have to try and think what you might need 4-6 weeks into the future, which is a pain, especially if things go missing.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 155 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    JB,
    That may be the next project after you'r Vintage Runabout.

    Martin555.
    Login To
    Remove Ads

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 155 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    Martin,
    Might be able to use the plans to scale down for a model. Probably a bit old to be starting an expensive full sized project anyhow๐Ÿ˜ -first pic is a 19ft (inboard) and the second is a 14ft (outboard) (I've previously taken the 1/2 profiles from the outboard one and doubled them for scaling up (plans are in A4 format), also re printed all the dimensions which were hard to read, so I'm part way there for a model. eg pics

    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 155 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    JB.
    That is a really big shame as those boats would of made a great project.

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 155 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    Hi Martin, re the timber problems, this is what happens when a small country allows itself to be raided for it's natural resources. I was going to try and build a full sized boat similar to the model (have plans for both shown) but the price of timber required is prohibitive here. If you read the 'about us' section of the timber arts link in my reply to Rick, you will see what we are up against, re native logging.

    Everything else takes forever to get here due to our position at the butt of the world. Some places like CMB manage to get their stuff here faster than Ali Expr which is odd. I have waited for car bits from Aust for 2 or 3 weeks, and it's only 2 1/2 hours away by plane! Just a pain doing anything which involves o/seas orders. Some ships are now by-passing NZ due to all the world shipping delays at the moment, which is damaging many businesses. Even supermarkets are running low on things with a lot of empty spots on shelves.

    Went to a Chinese supermarket today, and they are busting at the seams with
    everything from China ??? strange!

    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 155 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    There are some very nice looking woods there JB.

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 155 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    Hi Rick, we have a problem in NZ, that most of our native timbers are protected, and require special permits and the use of selective logging to cut. We have a lot of great native timbers here, but most ( such as Kauri) were cut in excess in the early days for ship building. Kauri masts were used in sailing ships all round the world due to their strength and straight mostly knot free trunks. They can live for hundreds of years so have been slow to regenerate and are highly protected. Very hard and expensive to get native timbers, which is a shame, as we have some really beautiful examples.

    Kahikatea (NZ white pine) which has straight grains and is very light and strong, was used for boat framing, but, but is almost impossible to find now. You would need a lotto win to build a boat in native timber these days. I bought some plans for similar full sized runabouts to this model, from a guy in the states, and most are planked and decked in mahogany,- oak framing etc- imagine doing that now! $$$$$$$$$$$ Most of our fancy woods and veneers are now imported exotics and are also hard to find and very expensive, and veneers for doors or panels, are usually sold already bonded to some type of panel, and the veneers themselves are generally not available. I may find someone who does them, but not holding my breath.

    Link to some of the timbers we could buy readily pre 80s


    https://www.timberarts.co.nz/shop/content/13-the-timber-arts-forest
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 155 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    JB,
    It Must be really frustrating having to plan what you need then order only to notice you need something else.
    And the prices are ridicules.

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 155 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Sorry JB that finding pieces to cover your boat have come at to hi a cost.Not sure if your local lumber store would have but I purchased a mahogany door skin to do one of my boats from my local lumber shop (32"x 68").
    Rick
    ๐Ÿ“ VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 154 Views ยท 5 Likes ยท 5 Comments
    Flag
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Add Comment
    Decided to have a crack at some planking today, as everything was looking good in the frame department. I usually run a long piece of strip balsa over the entire frame of a model to check if the sheeting is going to lay down smoothly, then dry fit the pre-cut balsa pieces to double check before applying the sticky stuff, (I think everyone does this). Looks to be shaping up pretty well, so should be finished the sides, and maybe the bottom tomorrow.

    After that it will be on to the transom. I'll sheet the transom first, then lay the veneer over the top of that to give it some strength. Frame/bulkhead No 4 is still not glued in but will be after I have decided where to mount the motors and made the mounts etc. I have made it so it can be tilted back and removed. The laminated gunwale and chine rails don't move at all, so it's not a problem removing it.

    Where the sheets join horizontally, they are edge glued with Elmers multi purpose glue (basically a fancy PVA) and held tightly together, - small 10 mm wide strips are placed across these joins on the inside using thick Cyano to hold them together.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 154 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Always gets a bit more exciting at this stage, doesn't it Martin ?๐Ÿ˜Š you can see if you've stuffed the framing up or not๐Ÿ˜‚

    JB
    Login To
    Remove Ads

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 154 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Hi Rick, I will be glassing the outside of the hull once sanded to give it strength and durability, so I'm not too worried about seams showing (they mostly disappear after sanding anyhow). I've glassed all my models and Everdured (anti mould timber resin sealer) the insides, as if you get a leak in a balsa boat, the balsa sucks water like a sponge and it stays there unless you strip a whole area and dry it out.

    I'll be painting the hull but staining/varnishing the ply deck and transom veneer and trims. Quite tricky deck lines they have drawn on the plan (easy to draw, harder to do,- I think woodwork's easier to do on a real boat due to scale ) so that will be a challenge to get looking good. I'll be interested to see what it looks like once the sheeting's done. They might have made it a bit pointy in the bow I think, but we'll see (maybe to make it easy to plank,-ie developable surfaces)

    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 155 Views ยท 3 Likes
    Flag
    Now it's looking sleeker with each post. Lovely work shipmate, cheers Colin.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 154 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Hi JB,
    This is when the real shape of a boat starts to show.
    So far it is looking good.
    Keep it up.

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 156 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Coming along well JB. You said you reinforce the seam inside.Do you have outside seam showing latter in the finishing of the hull.
    Rick
    ๐Ÿ“ VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 151 Views ยท 6 Likes ยท 1 Comment
    Flag
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Add Comment
    Mostly finished sheeting the sides now and have cut the slots in bulkhead 5 for the twin shafts. Easier to do this before the bottom sheets go on. I'll be making slotted ply plates to fit on the floor of the motor space for the shafts to eventually be epoxied to . Transom is now sheeted and will be veneered once the hull is glassed, to avoid any glue or resin spoiling it.

    Deck ply (1.5mm) has been rough cut but will need slitting at the bow I think, as it will not go round the compound curve. Might have to build the sub foredeck up to ease it a bit also. I won't fit the deck till all the internals and glassing is done, as it will need trimming to the outside edge of the glass. All the cut-outs will be done first, along with the deck 'plank' marking etc. Extra support framing will no doubt be needed round the hatch and cockpit areas.

    Found a pic of a boat similar to what this is modelled off, Chris Craft by the looks of it.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 150 Views ยท 0 Likes
    Flag
    I like it JB,
    You can now see that she is definitely looking like the boat in photo 10.
    Keep it up.

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ“ VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 152 Views ยท 4 Likes ยท 3 Comments
    Flag
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Add Comment
    Been waiting for the deck ply to form itself over the compound curve at the bow, The deck was clamped and taped and a sponge with boiling water was allowed to sit on the foredeck until cool, then repeated 3 more times and left for a few days to mould and dry. Seems to have worked quite well as about 80% of the tension has been removed and the ply is easier to pull down now.

    I cut out the cockpit and engine bay hatch last night and drew up some of the 'planking' . I used a modified rounded pin in my marking gauge to scribe the line around the outer edges of the deck and measured and 'scribed' the straight lines with a fine pointed black ball pen. The deck will be stained and varnished eventually. The engine hatches will be hinged using aircraft hinges and open from the centre (still to cut it in half)

    Been busy with other jobs, so going a bit slowly.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฆ redpmg ( Commodore)
    โœง 154 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Getting there JB - at least its big enough for the add ons you are sure to make !!!!!!!
    Looking good so far - decking lines look just the part.
    Login To
    Remove Ads

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 153 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    Hi Jb,

    I have had quite a bit of fun with the masking tape on my hull too.

    She is going to look great when she is finished.

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 152 Views ยท 2 Likes
    Flag
    Nicely done JB .
    Rick
    ๐Ÿ“ VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 151 Views ยท 4 Likes ยท 3 Comments
    Flag
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Add Comment
    Just to give and idea of scale, plenty of room for 'bits' (std sized 6 ch shown)

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 150 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    Do you have to remove it to charge it Red LOL!!!

    Martin555.
    Login To
    Remove Ads

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 150 Views ยท 1 Like
    Flag
    I like to be different Colin๐Ÿ˜

    JB
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: VINTAGE RUNABOUT
    3 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
    โœง 153 Views ยท 3 Likes
    Flag
    And I always thought that the receiver went in the boat. There's loads of room in there shipmate.
    Cheers Colin.
    Show 88 More Posts


    About This Website
    Terms of Service
    Privacy Policy