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๐ฌ Re: American river Springer pusher Tug
11 months ago by ๐บ๐ธ chugalone100 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Skydive:
I know itโs been two years that you posted the making of your Springer tug and if you donโt mind, I would like to ask the question that many asked you before but I havenโt find the answer. The question is ?Where can I find mastman models to purchase a model like yours? I have looked all over without any luck. Maybe he is out of business, and if that is the case, the next question is: ?Do you have the blueprints or plans that I could purchase from you? Your help will be very well appreciated. By the way, Iโm also a skydiver with 175 jumps and can fly Cessna 152, 172, Skippers and Sundowners. Thank You Jul ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Cheers JB, Iโll try and keep things interesting once we get beyond building the basic hull, which will remain fairly basic as they are in real life!
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๐ฌ Re: American river Springer pusher Tug
3 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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You'll have to slow down Sy, you're building faster than I can read๐ This one is going to be interesting, I'm sure!
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๐ฌ Re: American river Springer pusher Tug
3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Must say Sy I crack myself up sometimes. Glad you liked it.
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๐ฌ Re: American river Springer pusher Tug
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Oh dear Rick, you crack me up ๐๐๐
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๐ฌ Re: American river Springer pusher Tug
3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Was I pushing that to much. LOL
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๐ฌ Re: American river Springer pusher Tug
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Was there a pun there Rick, โpushing alongโ like a springer tug does ๐๐
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๐ฌ Re: American river Springer pusher Tug
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Me too Martin, should be a fun build ๐
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๐ฌ Re: American river Springer pusher Tug
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Never enough hours in the day Bill!
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๐ฌ Re: American river Springer pusher Tug
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi SY.
Your a glutton for punishment. I just havnโt got the time to do all you do. Donโt you ever sleep.๐๐ Good luck,keep it coming. Regards Bill ▲
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๐ฌ Re: American river Springer pusher Tug
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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SY,
This is definitely a different project for you. This could be interesting and as you say a lot of scratch building. I am very interested to see how this comes out. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: American river Springer pusher Tug
3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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A new build Sy I see you are pushing along nicely.
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๐ฌ Re: More hull work .....
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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It is Alan, Iโve not done much apart from glass cloth the hull this week as Iโve been busy decorating the new kitchen. However, should get a bit done Sunday and Monday before work Tuesday ๐
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง alan44 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Looking like a stress free build Sy ๐
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๐ฌ Re: More hull work .....
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Martin,
I see it as a nice relaxing blank canvas. I think itโs nice every now and again to have something relatively simple and stress free to build in between harder projects. But yes, adding all the home made bits n pieces will bring this to life Kind regards Sy ▲
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๐ฌ Re: More hull work .....
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Sy,
After seeing your other masterpieces this part must vary boring for you. I bet you cannot wait to get on to the scratch building and interesting detail work. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Glass cloth and internal fittings
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Re: the bigger Kort Doug, I was thinking exactly the same if I can find a suitable donor tug for it! ๐
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Doug, the resin I use is Z-poxy finishing resin. Itโs quite expensive but has always given me good results. Itโs similar in mixing to normal epoxy in that it comes as a 2 part bottle set and is mixed 50/50
As for the eazycoat stuff you use. I have actually got a bottle to try at some point, but was going to finish my current stock of Z-Poxy before I try something new. I Belive Rob recommended your stuff a while back and thatโs why Iโve got a bottle. Why havenโt I used it on this model, because I forgot I had it in my vast cupboard of paints, glues, resins, thinners, spray paints ect ect ect! ๐๐๐ Kind regards Sy ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Glass cloth and internal fittings
3 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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"The import thing is 50/50 on resin and hardener ratios."
Don't know what type of resin you are using Sy but that sounds a bit extravagant to me! With that amount of hardener I would expect the mix to generate mucho heat and go off in minutes and maybe even setting fire to your brush๐ฅ๐ฅ For some years now I have only used the Deluxe Materials Ezekote water based resin. No hardener needed, dilute with H2O, no heat generated and no pong๐๐ I no longer use cloth, too heavy for smaller projects, so I just use tissue now. Martin; Don't know about others but I've never bothered to try and 'work out' the amount of resin needed. I just 'paint' it on until I'm finished. Then with EzeKote you can just put any rest back in the bottle and seal it 'til next time ๐ No worries about it setting off the whole bottle. Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Glass cloth and internal fittings
3 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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So far so good Sy ๐
"unfortunately I wonโt be doing anything on Saturday as itโs my 57th birthday" Young whipper-snapper! Have a good day ๐ "Iโve got a date at Duxford to have a little jolly in a โSpitโ, " You jammy so n so ๐ฎ๐๐ 'Bandits Angels one high 11 o'clock chaps. Tally Hoooo' ๐ Nearest I got to that was a few lessons on a Grumman-American Tiger. But at least I got some 'Hands On' ๐ Did once get a birthday present of a day out with the then BMW Formula One team though, including a thrash round the Nรผrburgring track. Vroom vroom Maisy ๐๐ฎ๐ ๐ BTW Ref the 50mm Kort; now you'll just have to build a bigger tug ๐๐คฃ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Glass cloth and internal fittings
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Thank's for the information Sy.
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๐ฌ Re: Glass cloth and internal fittings
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Martin, Iโve zero experience working with GF apart from ready made hulls. When I cloth a model I guesstimate what weight of cloth to use depending on size of model but mainly use the lighter weights simply because they require less resin to fill the weave.
As for mixing resin? The import thing is 50/50 on resin and hardener ratios. Using neat resin i find it too thick and I use methylated spirit to water it down to a milk like thickness. I think the Americans use denatured alcohol and it may well be the same as meths? I use those cheap disposable brushes to mix and paint the resin on. The first coat bonds the cloth to the wood, and I squeegee the first layer with an old credit card once the cloth has been soaked. the next one or two coats to fill the weave and give a smooth finish. The quality of the finish is then dependant on how much effort is put in with sandpaper and wet n dry between coats. Iโve only been using glass cloth the last couple of years but have found a process that no longer scares me as it did the first time I did it! Kind regards Sy ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Glass cloth and internal fittings
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Sy,
Many years ago i use to do a bit of Fibre Glass Laminating and i seem to remember the resin weight was twice the weight of the glass cloth. It that how you work out the amount of resin need to cloth on models ? Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Electronics installed and spitfire sortie completedโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I flew in my Spit at Duxford with the company Aerial Collective. It was priced at ยฃ2700 which whilst not cheap was still in my mind money well spent. There are a couple of other airfields offering Spitfire, Mustang flights in U.K. for similar prices and more depending on what you want, Biggin Hill has a lot of different packages.
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3 years ago by ๐ฟ๐ฆ redpmg ( Commodore)
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Wow - Green with envy - closest I ever came was a 30 second taxi in a MK22 with an engine fitter on each wing making sure I did not overdo it - we were working on the aircraft at Thornhill air base an ex WW2 Empire Pilot Training Station. The plane in question was used for years as a display piece on a pedestal at the main gate. It was fully restored as there were still plenty of spares in the stores plus a couple of other derelicts that were scavenged from - lots of the regular RhodAF techs & TF's donated their spare time to do so. Not sure what financial arrangements there were with RhodAF.
It was owned and flown by Jack Malloch who ran a airfreight company Air Trans Africa - (one of his clients was Biafra during the Nigerian civil war). Sadly he was last seen flying into Cumulus-Nimbus and only pieces of the Spitfire came out. How did you manage to arrange the flight ? The sound of that Merlin is magic itself - the Griffin in the Mk22 was the same.......... And as usual you are making a magnificent job of the Pusher - always so very neat & tidy as well. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Electronics installed and spitfire sortie completedโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Sy If it is the top still room for more into the bucket.
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I think that was top of the bucket list Rick, not sure I can find anything that would beat it!
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3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Exceptional Sy Talk about an entry for your bucket list .
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Cheers Rob,
the springer is a stress free build. Iโve just managed to source a Model Slipway Loyal Fleet Tender off eBay after a long time hunting a kit, picking up from Devon in a couple of weeks, that will be more of a challenge ha ha! ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Cheers Martin, and yes, silly grin still attached to face ๐๐๐
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy.
What a week indeed! I'm so jealous of your Spitfire flight as will be most on here too ๐ค! The springer is coming on really well, keep up the great work ๐. Rob. ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Sy,
I bet you still have that big smile on your face even now. That is a very neat and tidy installation. Martin555. ▲
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