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    HMCS Rainboiw
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    RNinMunich
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    Aha! Cleaned me glasses and enlarged the photo!๐Ÿค“
    Now I see it, gun barrel hidden under the deck.
    And the 'bar' is the outboard deck support.
    Very good Chief๐Ÿ‘
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    Young at heart - slightly older in other places ๐Ÿ˜‰ Cheers Doug
    Gdaynorm
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    Look carefully and you will see the gun shield underneath the raised deck. I have them facing fore and aft, so no barrel protruding.
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    RNinMunich
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    With regard to the workmanship Martin I agree with you.
    But I know from helping with research for his previous models that Norm is a stickler for details, as far as humanly possible! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Norm: that reminds me!
    Have we seen any pics of your completed Dreadnought!?
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    Young at heart - slightly older in other places ๐Ÿ˜‰ Cheers Doug
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    Hi Gdaynorm,
    Ref "but probably best I can do."
    You have done an excellent job there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
    Well done.

    Martin555.
    If it looks right it probably is.
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    Looks good Norm ๐Ÿ‘
    But where are the 6 (or 12) pounders?
    Or is that the forward boat?
    Under which there is no gun.
    AH! No can't be. Must be the midships boat cos it's on the raised deck section.
    But what's that bar arrangement under it which will get in the way of the gun?
    Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    BTW: the decks are superb๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
    How on earth did you do the swing around the catwalk??๐Ÿ˜ฎ
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    Young at heart - slightly older in other places ๐Ÿ˜‰ Cheers Doug
    Gdaynorm
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    I've done one boat and falls, with rudimentary winches, see pic. Obviously winches will be painted. Not really happy with it, but probably best I can do.
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    I agree Norm,
    Electric motors must have been few and far between in 1890, and pretty rudimentary and feeble. Doubt they had the guts to lift much.
    I reckon they used lots of bods on the ropes.
    Or Royal's tip of a central or under-deck steam winch.
    I can't see any machinery under or around the boats and they surely wouldn't want to hamper the secondary gun crews with deck clutter.
    Don't forget that the davits can be swivelled to turn the boats outboard!
    Clearly visible in some of the photos showing some in some out.
    Not sure how that worked though!?๐Ÿค•
    Carry on CPO, good work so far๐Ÿ‘
    Cheers, FLEET// ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    Young at heart - slightly older in other places ๐Ÿ˜‰ Cheers Doug
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    Thanks for all the thoughts! I rather doubt they would have been electrically driven then? I think I will simply give her a simple drum winch to be operated by hand. As they will be almost invisible on the model anyway, I'll have to let them go at that. Going to be tricky running the falls round them!
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    Coming along brilliantly Norm, as expected๐Ÿ‘
    Apropos boat winches:-
    Enlarging all available photos, including of the museum ship, as far as possible without being left with a pile of pixels๐Ÿค”, I can't see any machinery under or near the davits. So if there was a winch it must have been under deck. So unless you're fitting glass decks forget 'em!๐Ÿ˜
    What I CAN see are the 6 pounders under the boats, 2 each P&S.
    So don't forget the gun slits (embrasures)for them. See note below re these guns!
    In one photo in the links below they show up like arrow slits in an old castle!

    The DDE/DDH Royal mentions are from a very different era. Rainbow is from an era where ships had very large crews compared with later generations. So muscle power was available in abundance.
    The centrally located winch is a good tip though. Might have been one but impossible to tell from the photos.
    Another case of "yer pays yer money and ...."
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    Note:
    If you are building the RCN version as of 1912 Norm then consider this-
    "Before departing Great Britain (in 1910), the ships required alterations to make them suitable for training. This required new heating systems, an up-to-date galley, the latest in Marconi wireless, the enlargement of the cadet gunroom and principal messes and the removal of the obsolete secondary armament." I.e. the 4.7s!!
    Odd! Attached pics purports to be Rainbow in North Vancouver 1910, with the 4.7s still in evidence!!??๐Ÿค” Maybe they were replaced with a newer version? Unclear!
    Also-
    "In 1911, the cruiser had her 6-pounder guns removed and replaced with QF 12-pounder 12 cwt naval guns." See attached pic. This was a 3" (76.2mm. Sound familiar? Oto Melara?๐Ÿ˜)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QF_12-pounder_12_cwt_naval_gun

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMCS_Rainbow_(1891)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QF_12-pounder_12_cwt_naval_gun
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMCS_Rainbow_(1891)
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    Young at heart - slightly older in other places ๐Ÿ˜‰ Cheers Doug
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    Can't answer specifically and information hard to dig up. However, I have had some experience with electrically driven winches.

    Just a thought or two. My educated guess would be a centrally located steam driven or hand operated winch. The various boat could recovered using a rope / pulley configuration to accommodate.

    Onboard DDE/DDH (RCN) a electrically driven winch was used to recover the Ship's Boats. Winch was centrally located for use on both Port and Stbd sides of the ship. If the winch was unavailable, the muscle power of about 40 people would be used to raise the boat by rope and hand.

    May not be what you are looking but should help in thinking though the problem.

    By the way I am impressed with your choice of ship to build and will follow with interest.
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