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>> Home > Forum > Building Related > HMS Campbeltown 1941, 1/96 scale
HMS Campbeltown 1941, 1/96 scale
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cormorant
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Forum Posts: 218
20th Aug 2018 17:32  
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My next project, just started, is (apart from the hull), a scratch build of HMS Campbeltown as she was in1941.
I have very detailed drawings in the form of a book, Anatomy of the Ship. Unfortunately, these drawings are 1/256 scale.
I have been told that if the percentage difference is calculated then the drawings can be upscaled to 1/96.
I am completely incompetent at maths, but I have calculated that there needs to be an increase of 266 percent. (256 divided by 96 = 2.66).
Am I anywhere close?
Thank you

Steve

RNinMunich
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Forum Posts: 2224
20th Aug 2018 19:00  
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Spot on Steve👍
So your model should be 99.8cm LoA @ 1/96.
Original was 95.81m LoA.

I have a Revell Limited Edition 'Classic Kit' @ 1/240, giving a LoA of 39.9cm.
Happy 'scratching', look forward to the Blog👍 Cheers, Doug 😎


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 Cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
cormorant
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 218
20th Aug 2018 19:25  
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Thanks Doug. I have amazed myself!
Yes, you are quite correct - 99.8cm.
I've got the drive train, including rudder installed and am just fine tuning the one piece deck. Once I have the drawings rescaled I can decide where to cut the inspection hatches, glue the deck on and start on the main construction.
Looks a bit rough and ready at the moment, but I'll keep you posted.

Steve


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RNinMunich
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Forum Posts: 2224
20th Aug 2018 19:28  
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Hi Steve, Life is full of surprises, not all bad 😁
When you've rescaled the plans I'd LUUUUV a copy😉 see if you can get 'em pdf'ed. I've been thinking of building her as she was rebuilt for Operation Chariot in St Nazaire. Cheers, Doug 😎
BTW: where did you find the hull? I've looked for ages🤔


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 Cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
cormorant
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 218
20th Aug 2018 20:04  
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I'm building her as she was following her 1941 refit (with four funnels) and not her revised profile (two funnels) for the raid.
However, I believe it was only the midships section that was changed so I will see what I can do.
In the meantime, the reference book I have can be found here
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/search?index=books&linkCode=qs&k...
The fibreglass hull was given to me by a friend, who had already built HMS Burnham and had no use for another hull.
I've just been on to Deans website and found one at £75 !
http://deansmarine.co.uk/shop/product_info.php/cPath/26_33/p...
What a great friend I have.

Steve

RNinMunich
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Forum Posts: 2224
20th Aug 2018 20:14  
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Ouch!😡 You sure have 😉
Their hull seems a bit long for 1/96? More like 1/83.
Ciao, Doug


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 Cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
cormorant
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 218
20th Aug 2018 22:01  
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Yes, I hadn't looked at the dimensions before I sent you the link. I'm not a Dean's fan anyway, from past experience with a damaged propshaft. They refused to replace it until they had checked the damaged one to make sure I was not the cause. I felt a bit miffed as the 4m shaft was part of a £480 spend with them and they were quibbling over a couple of quid.

RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





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20th Aug 2018 22:42  
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Hi Steve,
Hmmm! Hope I have more luck with the HMS Manxman kit I bought from them! That weren't cheep cheep either🤔 That and an Akula 2 sub with static diving system are my winter projects😉
Hope you got justice in the end!
Cheers, Doug 😎
BTW: "a 4m shaft"!? 😲
What are you building? A 1/10 scale HMS Queen Elizabeth?? 😁😁


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 Cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
cormorant
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 218
21st Aug 2018 00:05  
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No justice. I ended up buying a new shaft from ModelBoatBits for the very expensive price of £2.00.
The damaged one was part of the running gear kit supplied by Deans for HMS Hood, which I bought at the same time.
Sorry, I missed an m off the shaft. It should read 4mm.
I'm sure your stuff will be ok.

RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 2224
21st Aug 2018 00:43  
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Was only 'pulling your chain' about the missing 'm' Steve😁 Sorry 🤔
I carefully checked every one of the hundreds of bits of my Manxman kit on arrival, some with a micrometer. All seems OK.👍
Still, I can understand why they may not be your favourite vendor!
All the best, Doug 😎


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 Cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
cormorant
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 218
26th Aug 2018 12:17  
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Hi Doug
Trying to be smart and relying on scale information from the book, I spent £40 to get a profile and deck plan at 1/96. Despite several visits to the printer, we couldn't get it right for various reasons.
I then decided to examine the numerous sheets of A4 which came with the hull, to find that what I wanted was all there, it just needed stitching together!
I can send you what I have in jpeg which will not be at 1/96. However, you know the correct length of the hull so can you upsize the drawings from that?
Steve

RNinMunich
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Forum Posts: 2224
26th Aug 2018 13:51  
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Hi Steve,
The A4 sheets would be fine, thanks very much👍
If your scanner gives you the choice scan them into a pdf file please.
Then they are easier to import into my CAD program and stitch together!😊
If not I'll manage with the jpegs.
Cheers, Doug 😎


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 Cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
cormorant
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 218
27th Aug 2018 12:43  
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Hi Doug
Try these. They are in pdf but will need rescaling. As I said earlier, the book says they are 1/264, but don't take that for granted.
Steve


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RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 2224
27th Aug 2018 12:58  
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Excellent, thanks Steve👍
Just one thing; there are no frame profiles?
Were they not in the plan somewhere, or was it because the project was based on a GRP hull?
Cheers, Doug 😎


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 Cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
cormorant
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 218
27th Aug 2018 13:34  
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Doug. Yes, my project is based on grp hull.
The book contains loads more drawings including frame, armaments etc. I can send you more but it may be worth investing in the book?

RNinMunich
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Forum Posts: 2224
27th Aug 2018 14:22  
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Of course, you're dead right, will do😉
Have just opened the Amazon link.
Now considering if the Deans hull is worth 75 quid + a lot of shipping cost!
Was hoping Fleetscale might do one but apparently not.
Thanks for your help and inspiration👍
Think I'll practice on the little 1/240 one first.
It's a Revell limited edition retool of an old kit from the 60s.
Back then I only had the little Airfix 1/600 version.
It was 'sunk' by magnifying glass in the backyard battlefield pond!
The glass made quite realistic shell holes 😊
Cheers, Doug 😎


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 Cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
cormorant
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 218
27th Aug 2018 14:32  
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Glad I could be of help.
Your ‘sinking’ reminds me of the time we used to ‘try’ and fly model aircraft. We always took a box of matches as one or the other crashed beyond repair. Saved the trouble of taking the bits home.
Steve.

cormorant
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 218
22nd Sep 2018 18:43  
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Hi Doug
My build progresses well and I need to start painting.
I am unsure on what shade of grey to use. On previous warships I have used mid sea grey, but it looks to be a bit too dark.
All the photos I have got are in black and white which doesn't help.
Any thoughts?

Steve

RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 2224
23rd Sep 2018 12:17  
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Hi John,
Attached is the old Colour Coats Naval Paints chart form White ensign Models. It's based on original navy Paint Chips apparently. Of course precisely how the colours look on your device will depend on the settings of the display! But it gives you a comparison of the colours.

Here's a brief history of Cambletown, ex Buchanan D131 if you want to build the USN version.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/HMS_Campbeltown_(I42)
From this it can be seen the she operated either in the Western Approaches or on the West Africa convoy routes. So I think that Medium grey (RN02) is a bit dark, more suited to North Atlantic convoy duty perhaps? I would go for Light grey RN03 or M23 Light Admiralty grey for the hull and upperworks with Medium greenish grey RN06 for the decks.
If you want to go 'Cammo pattern' the Western Approaches colours for this are also in the chart.
The colour coats paints are now sold by Sovereign Hobbies
https://www.sovereignhobbies.co.uk/collections/colourcoats-s...
I just bought a batch from their German dealer; NNT Modell 😊
Some may not be available (Discontinued) but we can probably find near equivalents; I have several 'conversion charts' for Revell, Humbrol, Tamiya etc. My dealer still had a few tins of a Discontinued colour so it's worth asking😉
Have fun, cheers, Doug 😎


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Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 Cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
cormorant
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 218
23rd Sep 2018 13:39  
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Thanks very much Doug. Certainly gives me a lot to go on.
I'm building her to RN spec prior to conversion for St Nazaire raid.
I am looking to do 'cammo' pattern and also have my first go at weathering.
I will send you some pics soon.
Cheers
Steve

RNinMunich
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23rd Sep 2018 13:49  
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Great Steve👍 Will look forward to that, bon chance mon ami, Doug 😎
BTW: 'Life Colour' might be worth a look, they do several navy paints and sets from various eras as well as cammo and weathering sets.


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 Cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
cormorant
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 218
23rd Sep 2018 15:39  
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Hi Doug
Just had a look at Life Colour which on first sight would suit me better with the acrylic paints.
Here is my first attempt at scratch building. Nothing glued down yet as I have still got plenty to do before I can put the deck in place.
The funnels are cigar tubes and I have a smoker in 2 and 4.
I decided to lash out on 3D printed main armament but I still need to make the gun shields.
Thanks for your help and advice so far and best of luck with your 1/350 - hope you will keep me updated on progress.

Cheers

Steve


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RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





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23rd Sep 2018 15:55  
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Hey! That's a neat trick, having the 'smokers' down below who can then give you the cigar tubes for the funnels 😁😁
Seriously though folks, nice going so far Steve👍
A while ago I bought some 3D 4.7" guns for my H class destroyer, and was very disappointed to discover that nothing could be moved and the gun shield was virtually filled solid🤔 So back to the brass snipping and bashing.
I like the LifeColour as well, colours seem pretty accurate to me and easy to use than enamel.
Be a while 'til I start my mini version, no bench space at the moment.
Cheers, Doug 😎
BTW: About time you started a Build Blog ain it??


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 Cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
cormorant
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 218
23rd Sep 2018 23:17  
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Just had a look at the colours you suggest on the Colour Coats chart and they would fit the bill.
Looking at the Life Colour charts I can't see anything that's close.
My ideal would be acrylics and I see you have a conversion chart for Tamiya, which I believe are acrylic.
Can you convert M23 and RN06 please?
Thanks.
Steve