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Try something different day at work on Friday so signed up for the 3D printing workshop ,we had to design something and then print the first attempt was a bit rough, scaled it down worked fine did 4 prints in silver changed to a different PLA , nozzle size and multiple print not exactly what everyone else was printing but my choice seemed more useful than a mobile phone holder
Good for you Mark 👍 I do like an individualist 😉 Doug 😎
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
How brilliant for a try something different day. That's great Marky. We'll all be shouting you to get stuff printed out now. I've been trying to find somewhere to learn all this stuff to use myself. From the pictures and dialogue, it sounds as though you've got the hang of it all. Well done you mate. Just hope I can too. Best wishes, Dave W 😊
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Ho marky https://www.pinterest.co.uk/ Its a collection of all kinds of projects covering almost everything, but once you start using you will be shown new links to the items in which you might be interested. People share their ideas for free. I should possibly have said Thingiverse re the 3D files. https://www.thingiverse.com/ Cheers Dave
The world is your oyster on Thingiverse!!
If you can imagine it there will be a 3D STL model on there, hell, even if you can't imagine it there will be a model on there👍
I'm currently on with printing a 1/16 LCM3 landing craft, it's a bit of a beastie.
Cheers
Wayne
Ricky who took the workshop does a lot of research work with the medical school and had some examples of heart valves that he had printed and plates for skull injuries where they scan the damage and then print a new bit of skull ,puts my vents into perspective
and his years of experience and research put the perspective back into kilter😉 Hope none of us ever need his products 🤔 All things are relative! Good night from Munich, cheers Doug 😎
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Hi Wayne; Looks like high rise flats for bees at the moment 😉😉 How does the cost of filament and electricity compare with conventional material or a kit?? How many reels is that so far? How ig is the bed? Looks enormous😲 Cheers Doug 😎
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Hehe, that print is still going after 24 hours, I'll post a pic when done.
The PLA I'm using costs £10 for a 1kg 400m spool. I'm guessing now but this project will use approx 7 spools...
Electric I've no idea lol.
The pic is distorted, I'll post another tonight, print area is 220 x 220 x 240
Cheers
Wayne
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Hehe, the lower hull is split into 12 chunks, 2 on the pic above, the front ramp is in 9 pieces, the upper hull is loads, the orlecan guns 7 parts each, etc etc etc
At least the cabin printed in one piece...
Finished by Xmas, yes, just not sure which one😂
Cheers
Wayne
Ye Gods and little fishes!!!😲 Still I guess most of the time it just gets on with it while you do something else (like answer dumb posts! 😉) How long does it take to chomp through a reel? Cheers Doug 😎
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Dependant on what you're printing anything between 1-150m per 24 hours actually printing, I try to have mine printing on average 12 hours per day, so I use approx 700+m per week or 2 coils or £20.
The Mrs doesn't know yet but I'm contemplating buying a second printer😂
Cheers
Wayne
Oh yeh! Oh Yeh! 😲 Yep, full set of Kevlar seems to be in order! 😉 Can you get Kevlar on reels ?? 😁
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Wow Wayne. You've come a long way since a try something different day. If I have missed something, please, what machine are you using ? Is it one that a normal human being can afford ? Those parts for your LCM are looking pretty good. I , as I am sure others are seriously impressed with your work so far. Keep the reports coming in, we are loving them. Best wishes, Dave W 😊
brilliant bit of printing Wayne ,i will see if Ricky will let me take some pictures of his medical stuff ,i think his printer cost around 85K its multi headed and can mix the filler to different constituancies so he can print for example a car with rubber tyres
I'd love an expensive printer but for the moment I'm doing ok with my £160 Anet A8.
Oh, here's one I prepared earlier, the LCM3 cabin with hinged door👍
Cheers
Wayne
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
I was wondering how much finishing there is to do when printed - Now I know 😉
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
in the workshop they use chloraform to smooth the surface down ,this is done in a fume cabinet the chloraform is heated to 60°c and the fumes work on the surface not exactly something you can do in the kitchen ,saying that some of the things folk have asked about i wouldn't be surprised
Yup! I might get an unpleasant visit from the Bundeskriminalamt' if I started ordering chloroform!! 😡
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Hehe, that's easy for you to say.
A lot of people use acetone to smooth their prints to a near like mirror finish, unfortunately it doesn't work on the PLA filament I use, it's good old fashioned elbow grease for me👍
Oh, fresh off the printer at 11pm, it's been running since 8am this morning 😱
The 3rd slice of the lower hull passenger side (lol), I'll print the drivers side tomorrow 🤓👍
Cheers
Wayne
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
I work at an art college which is part of a University and the course was a" try something different day " where you could sign up to try various processes when there are less students about ,they also offered things like screen printing, photography workshops and other courses to let employees sample things that they might never do ,the course was free all you needed was youthful exuberance or in some cases like mine just exuberance .
I taught myself on YouTube, the printer itself arrived in a million pieces that I had to put together. I followed a 40 minute YouTube tutorial & it worked first time (8 hours later lol)
A channel called Makers Muse run by a young Australian chap is very informative.
To get started you download the required STL file or files for what you want to make from Thingiverse, you'll need a programme to manipulate the STL file in that also creates the gcode file that the printer uses. I use a programme called Slic3r yes Slic3r, it's quite easy to use, there are plenty of others, I'm told Acura is good also.
In the programme you put in the printing parameters you want to use, layer height, speeds etc, you can rotate the object to how you want to print it & then hit export gcode. That file goes onto the SD card which you put into the printer.
You hit print file on the printer menu & you sit back admiring all your hard work.
I know I've simplified it a lot but it's nothing you can't pick up off YouTube & a 30 minute call to me, I'd gladly help anyone👍
Cheers
Wayne
Here's another I prepared earlier, I found the file for it on Thingiverse, unfortunately the file made a boat 300mm long, so I printed all the parts at 200% size👍
I've got all the running gear for it now except for the water jacket for the brushless motor, come on China, get your finger out!
Cheers
Wayne
Cute! But isn't the conventional way of producing children more fun?? OH, sorry 😲 - you meant the boaty thing! 😉😉
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
that's why it's called 'all3dp' 😉 Sign up for their news letter. Highly recommendable. Cheers Doug 😎
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
hi Wayne,Rickys away on honeymoon for the next couple of weeks so will post spme pictures of his stuff when he gets back ,he even has a 3D print of Robert Burns skull and some of brains modeled from a brain scan.
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
I've had a productive weekend on the LCM3, fingers crossed I should have the lower hull completed this week. The upper hull looks interesting....
I have been working on another project in the background, I'll reveal all when the 48mm prop arrives from China🤓
Cheers
Wayne
The LCM3's lower hull is now complete, I'm busy sanding & filling, I've found this "Squadron Products white putty" to be an excellent filler for 3D prints.
This weekend I've completed 5 pieces of the upper hull, things are looking good for an epic super gluing session next weekend, after Haydock 😂👍
Cheers
Wayne
Doh.. I'll post a pic shortly 🤓
The cooler mount? I got the semicircular fan duct from Thingiverse, there are loads of different designs on there👍
Cheers
Wayne
Here we go, the finished article 👍
I wasn't happy with the ones that are printing on the LCM3, I found these, altered the scale so that the bottom flange is 20mm diameter & they fit the bill perfectly.
Found the file on thingiverse
Cheers
Wayne
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Ask a silly question and what do you get .......? 😁👍
Oh yes, and a scale fitter to tighten them of course 😊
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
As you say Wayne, it's slow. But it's coming along very nicely. As you have done the loading ramp, it only needs the sides building up now, then fit out, power up, and awaaaaayyyyyyy 😀 Hope the rest of it goes as well. Best wishes, Dave W 😊
Cheers Dave👍
I've been trying to work out a way to lift the ramp, ended up putting a hole through each of the parts of the upper hull & putting a 2mm I/d tube through, it's all coming together nicely now. I ended up reprinting the ramp, call me a snob, but I figured it should be the same colour as the rest of the boat.
Cheers
Wayne
HI Wayne, Have you been following the Graf Spee feed? go to the last few entries and click on the video feeds, the second one will have you salivating !!!!!!! Your wife would definitely be a widow.
I've been busy on the printer recently, the LCM3 is finished just waiting motors & gun turrets,. I'm well underway printing a Tiger 1 tank to go on it (just) I'm just suffering death by tracks, I've over 200 to fettle & fit together. I've just finished printing a 1/16 scale V1 flying bomb & Ive just started on a 1/16 scale V2, it's a big bugger!!! Cheers Wayne
Wondered why you'd been so quiet lately1 Was beginning to worry that you had bought your second 3D printer and the carbon fibre vest didn't withstand the attacks of SWMBO 🤔 LCM looks great👍 Are you going to fit the 'Doodle Bug' with Jetex (the senior members amongst us may remember that) and a flap valve for the characteristic sound?? V2 at 1/16; Length 87.5cm, Width (diameter) 10.3cm. Not so big in my terms, but BIG for a 24cm printing table!! Bon chance mon ami! Cheers Doug 😎 PS: water power or solid fuel for the V2?? When I was about 7 (1958) my Dad brought me a water powered 2 foot model of the Thor missile back from the States; pump pump pump ....... WHOOSH .... and gently back to earth on a parachute. I was KING of the block 😊 PPS: love the 50 cals👍 Can you do me two twin mounts at 1/35? 😉
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Hi Doug,
The 50 cals print in 2 halves with a tripod so you can mod them to your hearts content. If you can let me know how long they are from end of barrel to the back of the grip I'll print you a few off, I'll even send you the stl so you can have a play.
The base of the V2 only just fits corner to corner on the bed, so it will be scary watching it getting right to the corners..
I'm not planning on flying it, I'll build a launch platform & a truck to pull it all, should freak out the local tank guys😂
I might just put a smoke generator in it to scare people...
Cheers
Wayne
Brill👍 Doodle Bug looks great, never get off the ground though🤔 Don't forget the red flicker LEDs to illuminate the smoke on the V2, and of course the appropriate sound VERY LOUD!!😊 Servo and push rod to raise the launch ramp or hydraulics?? Re 50 cals: Don't need the tripods, I plan to mount 'em in tubs on the PT Boat. Don't want to bust your filament budget 😉 so the stl file would be fine. Many thanks. Video of the V2 printing, complete with anguished face of the creator?😉 Cheers Doug 😎 PS what scale are your 50s?
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Hehe, the 50's are currently around 1/16 but give me the length at the scale you need & I'll tweak the stl for you.
I'm not sure how I'll raise the V2 yet, I'll have to do some research.....
Cheers
Wayne
Hi Wayne, I need 1/35 so just scale the stl file by 0.457 and that'll be fine. Total length max 4.2cm. Ta ever so😊 Re raising V2 ramp; simplest could be a servo driven cam. Somewhere in my stash I have a couple of business gift gizmos! Cellphone holders that react to incoming calls and lift the phone! I also planned to use them for missile launch ramps. I'll try and dig 'em out and see how the mechanism works and how we can trigger it; without having to phone it!! Cheers Doug
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Great, muchas gracias, no rush. I'm still working out how to make the gun tubs revolvable! 😉 I'm a glutton for punishment! By the way; I chickened out on the 3D oilers and decided to do it the traditional way by soldering the tubes on, much quicker an' I got lots o' brass! I'll save the filament for the 50 cals😊 cheers Doug 😎
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Well, 13 hours into the bottom 150mm of the V2 & it's only 52% complete, needless to say I'm not very popular with the Mrs.
I hope I'm alive tomorrow 💩
Cheers
Wayne
So do we!! 😲 Jeez 26 hours total. Think I'll reserve my printer for smaller items I need several of. Was my original plan anyway. Print on Man! Cheers Doug 😎
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Hi Selwyn, you would need to draw them up in CAD first, then you can make it any size you want👍
The tail section is finished & im alive to tell the tail lol
Hi Selwyn, you would need to draw them up in CAD first, then you can make it any size you want👍
The tail section is finished & im alive to tell the tail lol
Hi Midlife (Wayne?) I know a CAD expert so I will ask how long that might take. I was looking for the easiest option. We were quoted £7k by a professional builder. The plans we have relate to Bristol ship lost off Chesil Beach.
Hi Selwyn, when the guy quoted you £7k was he wearing a mask?
It shouldn't take very long at all for someone who knows their way around CAD to convert a line drg to a model. Get the model as a .STL file & away you go👍
I'll post more pics later Marky, it won't be flying anywhere though, I plan to make a launch trailer for it though🤓
Cheers
Wayne
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Thanks Doug, it helps massively if you can speak the lingo 👍
Things are moving on nicely with the V2, ciggy lighter for scale lol.
I also found a pic of a manned V2, now that would be an interesting project 🤔
Cheers
Wayne
Any time Wayne! (Jeder Zeit😉) What went wrong? Have you also found that sometimes suddenly what you are typing doesn't register, or you can't load a pic? As if the site server reaches a limit and doesn't accept any more inputs!🤔 Cheers Doug 😎
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
S'pose somehow they have to squish into that titchy screen!😉
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Ok I've cheated, the 110mm diameter soil tube in the middle fits the bill perfectly, I'll take it into work tomorrow & get the ends squared up & shortened by 20mm.
Here you have it, a 1/16 scale V2 rocket👍
Cheers
Wayne
Hi Wayne,pure dead brilliant as we say north of Hadrians wall,dare we ask whats next ?looks like something chain driven if the hints in the right hand corner are a teaser. Cheers Marky
Hi Wayne, is that Bluebird it's sitting on? Completed yet? Donald still on holiday with his floozy?? Cheers Doug 😎
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
If you don't have access to a 3D printer, it might be worth your while checking whether their is a local Maker space you can join. They will almost certainly have a 3D printer you can borrow and are likely to also have laser cutting, metal turning and milling, and a host of other facilities normally outside the pocket of the average modeller. We are just starting up our Maker space in Guernsey but to find out if you have one near you, check www.nesta.org.uk/uk-makerspace-data.
Everything is feasible. You have to realise the constraints of the system though. My printer has a maximum build volume of around 200x200x200 mm which is generous in the home printer category. Many are much smaller. So, to get a model of any size, you might have to cut it into blocks which are glued together after printing.
Hi Selwyn, Like Delboy says, absolutely anything is feasible, my print volume in mm LWH is 220 x 220 x 240, I printed a 1/16 scale LCM3 landing craft, its in about 30 pieces that were all glued together, it took approx 6 weeks to print with the printer running 12+ hours per day... Take a look at this video of a printed ship, this guy doesn't mess around! https://youtu.be/QaIjdgTiP0o Enjoy Cheers Wayne
Think you're right Mark, I see the rear wheel arches but not the flat snout!?
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Hi Selwyn Looking at the plans it may be possible to use PosteRazor available as a free download from many sources. Just Google and choose a source you trust to download. It is actually a poster printing program and prints on A4 sheets which can be joined together. I have used this in the past to enlarge line drawings to the required scale to produce the formers. Won't be 100% scale but may be sufficient for your purpose. A fellow club member made Pickle from a 2" square set of line drawings.
Top prize to Marky, it is indeed a willys jeep, I found a 1/10 scale model on Thingiverse, I'm printing everything at 63% to get 1/16 scale. In comparison to the LCM3 it isn't taking very long to print, dependant on how it turns out I may print a few 😎👍
More pics tonight🎈
The printer runs off a transformer at 12 volts, to be honest I don't pay any attention to power consumption 🤓
Cheers
Wayne
I guess 3D printing is going to be a big part of model making, we already have one club member who has one. Does anyone have any idea where or how I can find a face to face 3D printing class (not an on-line one). I have tried looking on the web without success, any ideas would be very much appreciated. I live in the North West.🤔
Hi Wayne Printed props would be handy. Also can you tell me where go to. get the A9 pics as a forumite on another forum has built a flying A4 and would love the A9 Cheers John 👍
Whoa! Propellers are a serious 3D proposition! Not least as you can't have a threaded prop/shaft. Well, you could but it would be rat shit. Shall have to think about that one.
I'm speaking from the design perspective, of course. The Machine does what it's told to do.
As for printed props, yes they are doable, I've printed a few but I've not mastered how to print them well yet, I'm struggling with the surface finish, threads that small are a nono though.
Cheers
Wayne
Hi Wayne, surely you can print them with the right size 'clearance' hole and then use a conventional tap to cut the thread? Cheers Doug 😎 PS frankly I wouldn't trust 'em anyway. Thread could strip too easily and balance!? I'm currently converting all my plastic props to properly balanced quality brass ones. Cheers Doug 😎
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Hi Mark, look where your 'try something different' has got us!!😲 "Higher and faster!"😉 cheers Doug 😎
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Hehe, I'm not sure how the plastic would react to a tap, worth a punt I guess.
Always print a smaller hole than req'd & open out with a drill.
Tip for the day, run the drill in reverse, it still cuts & leaves a much nicer finish👍
Cheers
Wayne
Re: 'tapped' plastic, more or less my thought. Would need to be a hard but not brittle plastic. Can you print brass?? 😉 😎
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
Just a thought, Wayne and RN. If you printed the prop with and oversized hole then epoxy a brass insert tapped to the right thread would that do both jobs? Especially if the insert was knurled and a slight push fit into the prop????
Hi Mark, that should work a treat, I still have doubts on if a decent surface finish can be achieved & like Doug said balance could be a problem.
But as they say up north, the proof is in the pudding😂
I'll have another go with props after the jeep has finished printing👍
Cheers
Wayne
Props are probably best left to the experts and like Doug I use brass props and have found that performance / endurance and economy don't always come cheap.
I'm sure you can fashion a prop and find a way to attach to the propshaft but you will need a very good understanding of prop design to get good results.
If you want a good brass prop I suggest you contact Simon (ex PropShop) at Protean Design simonhiggins181@btinternet.com or 0797 7193759.
I will be watching with interest to see how this 3D print progresses!
I have been guilty of thinking along conventional lines. There's no need to cut a thread in the prop. Just design the prop with provision for a nut to be glued into it.
I still wouldn't trust 'em! Too susceptible to damage. My humble opinion - I think that there are some things best left to the pros, or at least other materials, and the 3d printers kept for more innovative jobs. Like LCM hulls and V1s and 2s 😉 Or for repetitive deck fittings etc. Each to his own, Happy printing - whatever comes out, cheers Doug 😎
Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change, the Courage to change things that I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference!
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