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>> Home > Forum > Hobby Chit Chat! > Varnish
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Alan999
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Forum Posts: 26
16th Oct 2017 03:15  
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Can someone recommended a hard. really shiny varnish for my Riva boat.


Am a member of Torrevieja model boat club here in Spain.
jarvo
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 469
16th Oct 2017 09:37  
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Hi Alan, the International Everdure 2 part epoxy paint is superb, expensive but applied as the instructions it gives a fantastic finish your Riva will look better than the real thing

Mark


Etherow Model Boat Club
onetenor
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 176
16th Oct 2017 13:35  
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I always liked Humbrol Marine varnish. Hard ,Shiny, and fuel proof. Very clear. I don't know if their latest is as good .

Alan999
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Forum Posts: 26
16th Oct 2017 14:34  
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Will look on Internet for it.Awkward getting items like that here in spain.postage is a fortune to send to here.


Am a member of Torrevieja model boat club here in Spain.
Haverlock
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 423
16th Oct 2017 15:16  
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well you could use a yacht varnish you should be able to source it locally. Polyurethane is hard wearing and can be obtained in high gloss.


"that's not a bug its just an undocumented creature."

Sir Terence David John "Terry" Pratchett, OBE (28 April 1948 - 12 March 2015)
Alan999
(Lieutenant)





Forum Posts: 26
16th Oct 2017 15:25  
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Many thanks.I have put boat varnish on five times but not really shiny despite rubbing down


Am a member of Torrevieja model boat club here in Spain.
RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





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16th Oct 2017 15:31  
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Hola Alan,
Try Deluxe materials Ezekote or Clearkote.
Here a possible source in Spain.

Montse Martínez (Samarkanda miniaturaS)
08014 - Barcelona
SPAIN
Tel & Fax: (+34) 93.325.44.24
Email: info@samarkandaminiaturas.com
www.samarkandaminiaturas.com

Radio Control, Miniatures, Plastics and Railway

FEWELL BUSINESS, S.L.
Import & Export
Carretera Comarcal 1413 Km. 35,5
08140 Caldes de Montbui, Barcelona
SPAIN
Tel. +34 938 655 830
Fax.: +34 938 655 340
Email: lourdes@fbsl.es
www.fewellbusiness.com

Good luck, Doug 😎


"The brain is not intended to store facts. It is for thinking, and for knowing where to find the facts !" Albert Einstein. 😉 cheers Doug
Alan999
(Lieutenant)





Forum Posts: 26
16th Oct 2017 18:29  
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That one looks best Doug
Thanks
Alan


Am a member of Torrevieja model boat club here in Spain.
jarvo
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 469
16th Oct 2017 21:50  
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Hi Alan, the international paint is a yacht varnish and is available from any chandlers, it definitely is available in Spain. Try around marinas etc
Mark


Etherow Model Boat Club
onetenor
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 176
17th Oct 2017 00:55  
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Try polishing the varnish once it is good and hard. Use a good polishing compound as used on cars and plenty of water don't use an angle grinder they're too fast and will burn the varnish.You might be able to sort out something using a Dremel type tool, but again not too fast, to get into the smaller spaces on deck etc. It is possible to do it by hand but takes longer.Done properly you get a finish like glass. A lot of car painters rub down wet first with very fine paper then do the polishing. Go to a car painters and watch them and ask them to show you what they use.Really educational. You could learn lots. Cheers John .

Alan999
(Lieutenant)





Forum Posts: 26
17th Oct 2017 09:30  
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Hi John.I sand the boat between varnishing with dry wet n dry paper. That's gets it smooth but when I varnish again with boat varnish it looks tired the finish
Alan


Am a member of Torrevieja model boat club here in Spain.
Haverlock
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 423
17th Oct 2017 09:34  
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use 600 wet and dry wet for first few coats then 1200 wet then after last coat wait a few weeks and use something like "T" cut ( used to restore car paint). The wet and dry is better used wet ( with a dash of washing up liquid in the water) since it cuts down on the clogging of the paper.


"that's not a bug its just an undocumented creature."

Sir Terence David John "Terry" Pratchett, OBE (28 April 1948 - 12 March 2015)
RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 1086
17th Oct 2017 10:11  
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Exactly Haverlock👍
wet with washing up liquid between coats is what creates the polishing effect and final gloss. Something I learned the hard way back in my car restoration days. Dry sanding creates more of a 'silk/satin' or worse matt effect. 😎


"The brain is not intended to store facts. It is for thinking, and for knowing where to find the facts !" Albert Einstein. 😉 cheers Doug
Alan999
(Lieutenant)





Forum Posts: 26
17th Oct 2017 10:14  
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That's the finish I get at the moment.The mat look.


Am a member of Torrevieja model boat club here in Spain.
RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 1086
17th Oct 2017 10:28  
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Hola Alan, not surprising if you dry sand!
Using the wet / washing up liquid technique, BY HAND and with not too much pressure, and a final buffing with a sheepskin pad, I used to achieve finishes on cars you could see your face in 👍 Created a nice little sideline earner for me 😉
I can also strongly recommend spraying (airbrush) several thin coats instead of brushing. This creates an inherently flatter, glossier surface and requires much much less flatting and polishing 😊 Good luck, Doug 😎


"The brain is not intended to store facts. It is for thinking, and for knowing where to find the facts !" Albert Einstein. 😉 cheers Doug
Haverlock
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 423
17th Oct 2017 10:33  
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no argument here about airbrushing BUT if your prepared to spend the time and effort rubbing down I defy you to tell a brush finish from a sprayed one. On a model a high gloss finish looks wrong anyhow ( IMHO).


"that's not a bug its just an undocumented creature."

Sir Terence David John "Terry" Pratchett, OBE (28 April 1948 - 12 March 2015)
RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 1086
17th Oct 2017 10:40  
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Not on a Riva! 😉
If you only want 'satin-gloss' leave out the T-Cut, or any other cutting compound / paste. Whatever floats your boat 😉


"The brain is not intended to store facts. It is for thinking, and for knowing where to find the facts !" Albert Einstein. 😉 cheers Doug
Haverlock
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 423
17th Oct 2017 19:15  
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As an afterthought when you have rubbed down with wet and dry used wet wash the paintwork off well allow to dry and then use a lint free cloth to make sure all the old paint dust is gone. Make sure you work over a surface you do not mind being marked since the drips from rubbing down make an excellent paint on an absorbent surface!! ( yes I made the mistake so I KNOW). Its a very messy process but well worth the effort.


"that's not a bug its just an undocumented creature."

Sir Terence David John "Terry" Pratchett, OBE (28 April 1948 - 12 March 2015)
Alan999
(Lieutenant)





Forum Posts: 26
17th Oct 2017 19:58  
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Will try.
The Riva is a beautiful boat to work on


Am a member of Torrevieja model boat club here in Spain.
jarvo
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 469
17th Oct 2017 21:25  
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Hi Alan, just a point that John made, if you have a paint shop in your area that does custom paint finishes, watch them, they consider 30 coats of lacquer only adequate, but the finish soooo deep but 3 weeks to finish a car, bit OTT
Mark


Etherow Model Boat Club
rolfman2000
(Admiral)





Forum Posts: 102
18th Oct 2017 16:24  
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A friend of mine imports what I believe to the finest varnish ever made.

http://www.letonkinoisvarnish.uk

They sell it online, and they did have a stand at Warwick a few years ago. Many folk in the classic car and boat trade swear by it. I have a tin in the garage awaiting use on my 46" Huntsman deck after re-planking.

Hope that helps someone, cheers, Dave W 😊

Alan999
(Lieutenant)





Forum Posts: 26
18th Oct 2017 16:33  
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Will look it up
Dave


Am a member of Torrevieja model boat club here in Spain.
RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 1086
18th Oct 2017 16:52  
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Hola Alan, it's made in Holland, maybe you can find a Spanish dealer here
http://www.tonkinois.com/gb_algemeen.htm

Asta luego, Doug 😎


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"The brain is not intended to store facts. It is for thinking, and for knowing where to find the facts !" Albert Einstein. 😉 cheers Doug
colinhubbard
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 189
18th Oct 2017 20:43  
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Yup that's real GOLD, and I have used for fifty years on real boats as well as models. I rub down with 2500 wet and dry after the final coat has hardened for at least two weeks. Then use a beeswax polish on a slow orbital polisher or by hand. It's really worth the effort. Best of luck Colin.


Fair winds and calm waters,
COLIN.
Alan999
(Lieutenant)





Forum Posts: 26
21st Oct 2017 10:57  
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A big thanks to all of you for your advice regarding the finish on the Riva boat I,m building. The wet n dry treatment is amazing so it will be used after each coat of the barque varnish.


Am a member of Torrevieja model boat club here in Spain.
onetenor
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 176
22nd Oct 2017 02:05  
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I hate to say it but we told you so 😁👍