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>> Home > Forum > Hobby Chit Chat! > getting a bit slow?...
getting a bit slow?...
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Westquay
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Forum Posts: 324
17th May 2018 23:58  
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Is it my imagination or is this once very busy forum getting a bit slow lately? Not much response, even to direct questions.

That's my impression anyway.

Martin

deepdiver
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Forum Posts: 48
18th May 2018 08:34  
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Hi
Well I have read your post.

But like most things it get's a bit slow at this time of the year, you have Holiday's - the Weather and the one thing that stops our hobby the most "Decorating"😡 boy do I not like decorating.

Fred

Westquay
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18th May 2018 09:34  
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I do my interwebbin' when I have a cuppa. Even decorators gotta drink tea?
I would have thought that model boats come alive this time of the year, with the better weather. I don't touch mine all winter.

Martin

deepdiver
(Commander)





Forum Posts: 48
18th May 2018 18:17  
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Hi Martin

TEA work of the Devil,

I just know what you mean about winter I do try and get some work done on my boat's but I feel more like it in the summer, only thing is I try and sail them as much as possible.

Fred

Westquay
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 324
18th May 2018 19:24  
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Winter used to be model railways and slot cars. Now just slot cars and small scale static boats, 1/48th scale. I always promised myself a collection of 1/4"-the foot inshore craft. I really can't be doing with the over-pensioned old fools who spend a fortune on some very average kit and another on wheels and gearbox, motor, building, painting, lining, weathering, blah, blah and finally bragging about on forums. Kit snobbery is not only annoying, but to a scratchbuilder like me it is utterly stupid and pointless. And as a model railway club near me now charges 100 quid to join and still only turns out a glorified toy train set, it is, alas, no longer a hobby for me. We have a sign on our wall that says, "The more I learn of people, the more I love my dogs".
QED.

Martin

RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





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18th May 2018 23:42  
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Good ol' Martin, you haven't changed a bit have you? But then why should we at our age? Just as forth(or fifth?)right as ever😉
Was mildly surprised to see you pop up again a year after you so explicitly and expressively announced your departure! Getting bored?

What might seem "utterly stupid and pointless" to you, as a lifetime professional model builder, is a very satisfying and maybe only possible way for many of us to enjoy this hobby. Is it really necessary to denigrate kit builders in this insulting manner?
Some of us do a mixture of scratch and kit building, sometimes for the fun of building, sometimes for convenience / speed, as a a fill-in JFF job during a bigger build project, or because the scale is smaller than the 'small scale' of 1/48th you mention. I.e. working models at 1:350 or 1:400. Even then we fiddle about with embellishments such as photo etch, which itself demands certain skills. Even kits demand certain skills, especially the larger more complex ones. My next 'average' kit build will be a 1metre Akula II Russian submarine with diving tank for static diving. Utterly stupid and pointless but a great challenge and ultimately great fun I hope, with a built in mini video camera. A way down the line as other wooden boat restoration projects are still on the slipway, but something new to try.
Maybe you should do that sometime?
Have fun with your dogs.
Viele Grüße aus München, Doug 😎
Oh! and QEND - Quad erat non demonstrandum!
BTW: nice work on the Vanity woodwork, thought you had her finished long ago though. Did you ever get your old Taycols out of your son's loft?


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
Westquay
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 324
19th May 2018 00:01  
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Oh Doug, I thought you would understand. I am not denegrating kit builders. I, too, build the occasional kit to save time. No,no, I was denegrating the old boys who don't EVEN kit build, then brag about it, about what it's all cost them. That is what is so bloody pointless to me. Obviously I am grateful for kit builders as that's how I made my living for years, making patterns for kits. But to pay over the odds for a kit and all its bits and then brag about how much it all cost seems to me utterly stupid. Building a kit is a perfectly good way to either save time or gather a collection quickly and just to make my point, I still get a kick out of opening the box on a new kit (Airfix 1/48th scale Lightning for instance) like I did as a kid.
I am well aware of the skills of dealing with photoetch, although I doubt I could manage such tiny scales as you mention. I have always done the artwork for my own photo-etch, but now it's all done on computers, so I no longer have any dealings with it. For the kind of inshore craft I have always been a fan of, 1/48th is quite small. Small enough for me anyway.

And a year after (is it) I am back with the boats as explained above. I do other things when the weather is not so great. I can't remember what went on a year ago and I have never been bored in my life except when forced to watch television, football, modern pop music or money programmes. I ALWAYS have something to do, I just don't always know much about aspects of it, which is why I come on here and ask. I ain't proud.
I was explaining why, for me, model railways is now a no-no and why my wall sign is very much a case of QED. I do wish I could help more people with constructional stuff, that I DO know about to in some way pay back for the help I have recieved from others on topics I find mystifying.

If you don't like it, so be it. I'll go again and not return. It's a shame to be what seems to be willfully misunderstood, especially by someone I thought I had a good relationship with.

Cheers,
Martin

RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 1658
19th May 2018 00:18  
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Martin, maybe you should read back what you wrote before you hit the 'Post' button?
" over-pensioned old fools who spend a fortune on some very average kit and another on wheels and gearbox, motor, building, painting, lining, weathering, blah, blah and finally bragging about on forums. Kit snobbery is not only annoying, but to a scratchbuilder like me it is utterly stupid and pointless."
Nobody here to my knowledge has bragged about the cost of their kits.
Wilfully misunderstood??
It's not necessarily what you say but the way that you say it.
I agree with much of 'where you are coming from' but not how you express it sometimes. Comes over as a bit of a tirade.
Apropos Airfix: I recently succumbed to a 1/24th scale Mosquito, my Dad's second favourite plane to work on and fly in, after the Spitfire.
Man is that kit huge! Which Lightning do you have? the P38 or English Electric? I built both years ago, but only 1/72, they didn't come bigger in those days. Cheers Doug 😎


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 1658
19th May 2018 01:38  
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Mornin' Martin, just to refresh your memory-

"Couplings by Westquay Admiral Posted: 1 year ago
Isn't it funny how I used my Crash Tender 53 years ago with 27 meg R/C and never ever had any interference problems. Now the fashion victims all want those ugly little cans from Mabuchi or brushless, suddenly the lovely old Taycols are unusable. Rubbish. If modern R/C is that fussy we haven't moved on at all. Maybe because I have an unbroken link to the Taycol and the Crash Tender I see no reason to just give in and use modern stuff I detest. I have never been a fashion victim and I am not starting now. I think this and any other model boats forum and I have reached the limits to our mutual usefulness. I'm off to do things my way. Where I've had help, thanks. Otherwise?............ Martin"


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
teejay
(Lieutenant)





Forum Posts: 30
20th May 2018 00:19  
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Hi all I am quite disappointed seeing what has been written on this forum these last two days , this is the only forum I have used because there is little or no snobbery until now , and RN Munich is right , I have been making kits all my life since the age of seven and like most modeller my skill set has changed in that time , I have adding too and modify kits most of this time and a lot of it involves a good bit of scratch building to meet the specification of the various marks of different aircraft , I have done this for the syllabus for two ATC squadrons, and for presentations for RAF veterans. and while I do fine the remarks made by Westquay offensive snobbery I would not like to see an end to RNinMunich posts as I now he helps a lot of people that may struggle, with all aspects of the hobby , I think that if you cannot refrain from criticizing others unconstructively may you should use some other site that seems to specialises in slagging each other off

RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 1658
21st May 2018 08:37  
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Thanks Gents 👍
😎


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
Westquay
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 324
23rd May 2018 10:27  
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Sorry, I didn't realise there had been any follow up to this.
(May I suggest a "View New Posts" button? Or am I missing something)

I think my remarks a year ago were perfectly valid, now you remind me of them. I thought I'd been offensive or something. I see no cause for offense there.

Teejay, you, too, have misunderstood my post. I was saying why I had left model railways, a hobby of a lifetime so far. THAT alone was the area of kit snobbery. Not here, or in model aircraft forums, which are nearly all kit based, yet I am a happy member of Large Scale Planes and Britmodeller. Mainly because two old friends tend to communicate with me that way.

Doug, I have a 1/48th scale Mk1 Airfix Spitfire which I have turned into the First Flight in zinc chromate and polished metal, because I don't do military (liveries, at least) and have made a scratchbuilt photographer and his plate camera for the set-piece. It all sits on a bit of died lint grass. Then I have a 1/48th scale Airfix English Electric Lightning as it's a superb kit and impressive in that scale. I got it cheap off ebay. I also bought an Italian resin kit of a Houchin start-up compressor to go with it, which was amazing value and have made a tarmac set-piece ready for displaying that lot on. It was purely to save time getting something I just fancied doing. It's the foil covering on the Lightning I fancied doing. No snobbery there and when others buy loads of aftermarket stuff to add to it, none there either. And they usually make it all fit themselves. They don't pay someone else to do it. If injury or health demands it, that's a very different kettle of fish, but those sort of people rarely, if ever,brag.
So, once and for all, nothing I said this time had any reference to this forum or this hobby. What I said a year ago I meant, but perhaps it was a bad day. I always read what I type as my hard, dry old fingertips slip around the keyboard and I wouldn't understand my own typing if I didn't check it.

Doug has indeed helped others and me too. But so, I think, have I. Indeed that has always been my intention after a lifetime in modelmaking.

Cheers,
Martin

RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 1658
24th May 2018 00:50  
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Evenin' Martin,
Re: 'New Posts'; when you log on to site on the 'Home Page' the latest post are displayed. Scroll down and at the bottom you will find a 'Show earlier posts' button, in case you have missed something.

Your dioramas sound marvellous👍 can you post some pics???
Could give me some inspiration for my 1/24th Mosquito.
At that scale it has a wingspan of about 30 inches 😲
I intend to fit it with motors and lights and a sound module with that wonderful Merlin sound 😊
Your input could help create a great diorama 👍
Cheers Doug 😎


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!