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>> Home > Forum > Plans! > Robbe Smaragd
Robbe Smaragd
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NPJ
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Forum Posts: 120
12th Oct 2017 20:06  
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I have a Robbe Smaragd Yacht. 1/10 scale. This is quite old now and could do with a ‘make over’.

I would like to see some plans or instructions from the build before I start and would therefore be grateful if anyone with knowledge of this model or better still, copies of any paperwork that came with the kit contacted me.

A few pics attached of this very ‘forgiving’ yacht............

All the best.

NPJ


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NPJ
RNinMunich
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Forum Posts: 2075
12th Oct 2017 20:27  
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Hi Neil,
Brian Roberts did a makeover article for the 'Emerald' in Model Boats mag a year or so ago which might help you -
http://www.modelboats.co.uk/news/article/smaragd-makeover/14...
Afraid the only docs (pdfs) I have are in the original German🤔
Cheers Doug 😎


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Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
NPJ
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 120
12th Oct 2017 22:13  
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Thanks muchly for that Doug.

I will check it out tomorrow.

NPJ


NPJ
NPJ
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Forum Posts: 120
13th Oct 2017 08:50  
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What are you trying to do to me....................That is a life's work!

I have enough issues with the Tug and I thought that was going to be straight forward!

What MYA 'class' does the yacht fit in?

NPJ.


NPJ
RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 2075
13th Oct 2017 08:57  
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Hi Neil, Well you wanted info!! 😉 I have a digital subscription to Model Boats and remembered seeing the article. I don't build yachts but can still admire the craftsmanship and techniques used. Some come in handy for other projects, e.g. winches.
No idea about MYA classes, I'm not a yachter! Dave_M most likely knows.
Happy over-making, cheers Doug 😎


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
Dave M
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 1527
13th Oct 2017 09:30  
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I am no expert on MYA but I suspect it doesn't fit into any class.
it's a great scale model and sails well but those two assets don't normally go well with racing yachts.
If you do wish to enter into this very competitive part of model yachting I suggest you find a local club who race under MYA rules and see what is required.
I'd still restore your yacht as they are great fun to sail


Live long and prosper

Dave
NPJ
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Forum Posts: 120
13th Oct 2017 09:44  
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Help.............No no no, I do not want to get into competitive sailing. I just wondered how/why most/many people have numbers on their sails and I thought registering the boat was why.

As my wife says, I should not think, it only causes trouble.

Got enough on with the Tug!

All the best to all.

NPJ


NPJ
RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 2075
13th Oct 2017 09:56  
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Hi Neil, your yacht still looks pretty tidy to my 'untutored' eye!
So if it ain't broke ....!
Suppose you could invent your own fictional pennant number if you wish.
As you say, there's enough going on with the tug upgrade - which also wasn't broke! 😉 Or was it?
Cheers Doug 😎


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
East-RN
(Sub-Lieutenant)





Forum Posts: 13
21st Jul 2018 19:31  
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Hi Guys. I have recently dug by Robbe Smaragd out off its hibernating spot in my shed, and presently cleaning and servicing all the running gear. It has been a few years since it developed a problem on the Genoa switch module, mounted inmy Futaba F-14 Marine transmitter. I also had a look round the web, for any like minded people, who I could chat with. I was so glad to come across this site and forum, so I have signed up as a member.
I still have all the original documents and plans that came with the kit. If anyone would like to borrow them, or make copies.
I have the full Genoa, and Blister kits fitted, and have had many years sailing Her. The model is perfectly balanced between sails and rudder, with only the slightest adjustment to the trim to keep her on a straight line tack. Not that I have raced her against one of the 1Meter racers, but I would say faster by a good margine over a standard triangular course.
My kit was purchased and collected in the spring of 1998, it was launched the following year. The Genoa was fitted while I was working in Dublin, and sailed on a local lake at the hotel where I was staying. The Blister kit, was added about 2004. Frequent summers out on the local lake and Gloucester Dock with the local model club.
I look forward to chatting and getting to know you. I am willing to answer any questions about this particular model.
East RN


East RN
RNinMunich
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Forum Posts: 2075
21st Jul 2018 23:52  
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Hi East, Welcome aboard 👍
How about posting your Smaragd (= Emerald BTW) in your Harbour?
Sure folks would like to see some pics of your pride and joy 😉
Cheers, Doug 😎


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 cheers Doug
Grant me the Serenity to accept things I can't change,
the Courage to change things that I can, and
the Wisdom to know the difference!
East-RN
(Sub-Lieutenant)





Forum Posts: 13
22nd Jul 2018 13:39  
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Hi Doug.
Yes, I plan to take some pictures/video and post them.
Primarily, I was hoping to help NPJ with his request for original plans etc. I realise it was last October when he requested them.
I have made some changes to the main sheet control, planking and windows on the Cabin and an auto bailout on the cockpit wells. He may be interested in those as well.
I have not met any other owners of this Classic model. It would be good to meet up with other owners and get them Cruising across a reasonable sized stretch of water (Not Racing).
I have sailed and raced Dingy's and Catamarans, and this model is as close the real thing as I have experienced, and a good trainer for anyone learning how to manipulate and set sails, as well as use of the rudder.

Keep Upright 😁😎

Ray


East RN
NPJ
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Forum Posts: 120
22nd Jul 2018 15:20  
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East-RN

I have not been active for a while and the first week back I get your mail..............

I would like to have the documentation please. I will pay for all coping etc or maybe you could scan it in if not too much.

Otherwise post and I will do all the necessary.

I do not have the 'extra's that you refer to. Did not know about a 'blister pack'

Are you going to put some images up?

All the best.

NPJ.


NPJ
East-RN
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Forum Posts: 13
22nd Jul 2018 18:07  
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Ahoy NPJ.
I can copy them and send them to you. There are 4 plans, and they are full size A0. The full instruction manual is a booklet of A4 size. A separate instruction manual for the Genoa/Blister addition.
It has some good points on how to manipulate and set the sails, even if you don't have them.
I did use a higher while I was building the yacht, so there are marks on the text and diagrams. However, this does not hide or cover the text and diagrams, and you will be able to follow them.
It will take a few days to copy, and get ready to post.
Ray


East RN
NPJ
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Forum Posts: 120
22nd Jul 2018 23:51  
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Ray, that would be very good of you if you have the time, but I must cover your costs.

You will have seen the Brian Roberts make over. Well mine looks nothing like that!

Previous owner, years ago, had used fishing gut for the rope work and the hull is looking very tired.

I am a little limited in my dexterity and tire quickly, but otherwise up for it after this RAF Tender is at less able to be used.

Would like it to 'look good' as it did sail so very well.

Will keep in touch.
Cheers.

NPJ


NPJ
East-RN
(Sub-Lieutenant)





Forum Posts: 13
24th Jul 2018 23:19  
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Neil I have all the documents scanned to pdf files.
Could I post them on this web site, so anyone can download them.
Are you able to get them printed.
There are 4 full size A0 plans and two Construction Manuals.
I Separated the English text, and reconstructed the pages, to be copied on A3, double sided, then put in order and Folded to make the A4 Manual.


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East RN
NPJ
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Forum Posts: 120
24th Jul 2018 23:29  
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That looks great. I have Adobe printer and will try one tomorrow.

Quite exciting after all this time.
Be interesting to see if any other 'owners ' appear. Will post a few more detailed images of bits of mine that bother me.
All the best.
NPJ


NPJ
East-RN
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Forum Posts: 13
24th Jul 2018 23:31  
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Sorry, Missed the first Plan.


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East RN
NPJ
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 120
24th Jul 2018 23:47  
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Thanks for that Tom. Will check it all out tomorrow all being well.
You will have realised that the printer reference should have read A3!


NPJ
East-RN
(Sub-Lieutenant)





Forum Posts: 13
25th Jul 2018 00:13  
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Now the Manual.


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East RN
East-RN
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Forum Posts: 13
25th Jul 2018 00:20  
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Remember to print these pages double sided.
Cover with Inside Cover on the back.
Page 1 with Page 2 on the back.
Page 3 with Page 4 on the back.
Page 5 with Page 6 on the back.
The Sailing map was in the middle of the book.
The Genoa Document has all 3 pages within the file, and can be printed and assembled in the same way.

Hope it all comes together.
Ray


East RN
NPJ
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 120
25th Jul 2018 00:33  
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Well will have to think a bit before I start on that. Will need both brain cells sparking up to achieve that!
Where did 'Tom' come from? Bit of a stretch for the predictive text from Ray!


NPJ
East-RN
(Sub-Lieutenant)





Forum Posts: 13
25th Jul 2018 17:08  
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No worries Neil. I see you are working on a RAF Fire Tender at the moment.
When you start on the Emerald (Smaragd), I will be here if you have any questions. I did post some pictures of my model recently, and am doing some maintenance myself. Hopefully I will be able to get her out on the water soon and get the Genoa up and in full sail.
Yes, it would be good, if a few other owners of this model joined us.👍😎


East RN
NPJ
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Forum Posts: 120
26th Jul 2018 14:38  
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Have not found your boat images yet................

With mine I am most concerned about the 'weak' stanchions, the fishing line rails and lack of any 'proper' windows/portholes.

I will dig out some images and post them up.

Re the RAF 'Tender'. Well wished on me in a way. More of that model on another bit of the site.

All the best.

NPJ


NPJ
East-RN
(Sub-Lieutenant)





Forum Posts: 13
26th Jul 2018 20:49  
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On the original kit, there were no portholes or windows. It was all done by transfers. Grey pieces of paper, slid onto the cabin sides.
I cut the holes to the shape of the transfers.
Then I planked the sides around the window frames, from deck to roof. Then I used some old cd cases, to cut and shape the window glass. It worked quit well.
👍


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East RN
NPJ
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Forum Posts: 120
26th Jul 2018 21:42  
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As you can see it has all the transfers....................

No deck rails on yours. Perhaps that is the way out of one problem.

The windows really work for me.

Still trying to open the plans.

All the best.

NPJ


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NPJ
East-RN
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Forum Posts: 13
27th Jul 2018 20:05  
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Because of the size of the sheets, I went to "Office World" a local stationers, that have a copy and print section. They scanned the documents for me, and put them on a stick.
I would suggest taking the files to them, and they can print them for you. Take a note of the sheets to be printed on the back of other, on A3. So you can assemble them in an A4 booklet. The page numbers on the left hand page is the sequence to use, as that is the first section of the book, assembly method. The later section is the parts lists etc.🤔
Ray


East RN
East-RN
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Forum Posts: 13
27th Jul 2018 20:24  
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With reference to the deck hand rails:-
1. With the model being so heavy and large,
I found that transportation to the sailing venue, and the possibility of a reasonable walk from the parking area to the launch/waterside, that the handrails were the first items to suffer.
2. With the Mainsheet extending out over the railings, sometimes it would get snagged on one of the stansions.
3. The Genoa sheeting is really long and loose on the Lee side. It too could get snagged at times.
I am looking at getting new stansions and looking at installing them again, but with the Genoa fully rigged and sheeting operational, to see how it can be installed securely and reduced risk of snagging.😱


East RN
NPJ
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Forum Posts: 120
27th Jul 2018 20:26  
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As I hope you can see, I have had a break through with the files.

Not done them all yet, but having success now.

Many thanks for all the trouble you went to. Lets hope others will also benefit.

Did you decide to do away with deck rails or were they not there when you acquired the boat?

All the best.

NPJ


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NPJ
East-RN
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Forum Posts: 13
28th Jul 2018 10:45  
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I bought the model boat kit new from Bournemouth Models in 1998. They were the main suppliers of Robbe models and parts in the U.K. at that time. It came in several boxes and a lot of room in the garden shed.
It took some time to assemble all the separate pieces into their respective components. Then final assembly as per the manual and diagrams.
Yes the hand rails were there at the beginning, and remained there for the first couple of years.
With the standard jib and main sails, there was very little interference with the sheeting. The problems were with the transportation, as they are exposed on the edges.
The stansions would catch on clothing while lifting and walking with the model.


East RN
NPJ
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 120
29th Jul 2018 09:57  
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Our posts crossed Ray.............

Thanks for all that and I understand the transport issues.

Gives me a good reason for doing away with the 'weak bits'.

I am trying just to get the Tender under power so it can be used during the next two months, then back to the yacht may be.

However someone has been kindly tidying my stuff up and now I cannot find even the transmitter!

Can print out the stuff you provided though.................

All the best.

NPJ


NPJ
East-RN
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Forum Posts: 13
31st Jul 2018 10:17  
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Just for information.
While I was browsing through the Yacht section of pictures, I came across another Smaragd yacht.
The pictures were posted 2/3 yrs ago.
I wonder if they are still active members, and have seen any of our chats and pages.
It would be good to hear from them.
Still looking through the many archived pictures.
Best Regards
Ray.


East RN
NPJ
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Forum Posts: 120
4th Aug 2018 15:08  
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I will go and look for those as a bit of a break from thinking"tender".

All the best.
NPJ


NPJ
NPJ
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6th Aug 2018 20:54  
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East RN

Ray, where did you see that other Smaragd?

I cannot find it.

Cheers
NPJ


NPJ