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    Fairmount Alpine - TUG!
    I have to admit I'm a bit of a novice and tend to work on my own a lot, although I have looked at build videos on YouTube. I often wonder about the best time to paint the various bits as it seems some will be difficult to do later. So I painted the guard rail uprights and glued them in... then clamped the painted guard rails (proper names?) then started adding the hull sides, glued, clamped, and pinned where necessary. Size comparison picture with tug Annabelle (
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    Banckert) Fairmount is 1:75 scale, Banckert is 1:48
    1 year ago by Harvey Kitten
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    With the size my workshop will turn out to be, That is a very tempting ideaπŸ˜† Part will be for the restoration of my
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    sea Queen, and part for my other hobby of model aircraft, I have a number of repair jobs due to the haulage company when we moved here to Portugal.
    3 months ago by Wingcoax
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    Smith Rotterdam - bow thruster
    Hi, Anybody ever added a working bow thruster to the
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    Smit Rotterdam kit? - decision time is looming!😭
    4 months ago by theshipscat
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    I have a Zwart Zee tug kit wooden, complete with all boxed brass fitings ,untouched,got it off an old workmate for a tenner years ago when he gave up modeling.its sat in the loft for years as life and other projects took priority.
    4 months ago by Ray
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    First off Happy New Year 2019 . I was just reminiscing about the first few
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    model boats that I built but can't find any thing on them .One was a Tug Boat that my have been named Samson .The other one was a luxury yacht & I'm pretty sure It was to be Painted Yellow but I can't remember the Name of that model .P/S all these model kits where 1970 -1980 era .
    5 months ago by GARTH
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    Hi I was unaware that the Samson and Polar Trawler had the same hull, I have had a Polar Trawler for several years, purchased as a project from that auction site β€œE” something and it sails really well, so if the Samon is the same Hull it should be a very good model. Somewhere on the site I have posted some articles about the Polar’s rebuild. Will try to find the links if I can.
    5 months ago by jelley_baby
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    Thank you, I wasn't aware that the Samson I have shares a hull with the Polar - I bought one of those recently as well, but haven't had a chance to start sorting it out yet.
    5 months ago by Oxford-Dave
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    (Working Vessel) Debbie 1
    This
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    model was probably one of the first R/C models I ever built the speed control is a Traxxas XL-1 2 Channel am Airtronics transmitter . I took it down to a pond at Confederation Park to test it with my girl friend turned it on but the rudder was hard over & I didn't see that the boat started going in a nice circle until it screwed itself under .I jumped in and there was only 3 feet of water & 4 feet of mud . My girlfriend ,now my wife thought I was crazy but after 42 years she still thinks I'm crazy . (ESC: Traxxass XL-1) (5/10)
    5 months ago by GARTH
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    That is a BB Samson II, using the same ABS hull as Sea Star and Polar and as you state from the late 80's- beginning of the 90's. DMI and BB were competitors in the 60-80's and the wooden model names are often mixed up, between them. This at least in Denmark.
    5 months ago by Tica
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    @Richard7 ".... Your chat reminded me of my early school days (late 50’s) when l used to spend my paper round money of the β€œKeilcraft boat kits” (May have got the kit name wrong), the boat l recall was called the Mermaid, does anyone out there remember these early kits?..." At least one person does. http://eezebilt.tk/index.html Look for http://eezebilt.tk/Mermaid.html Or http://eezebilt.tk/Range.html Or http://eezebilt.tk/mermaidpics.html They are actually going from strength to strength, with 10 new EeZeBilt plans issued over the last several years as a fan homage to the original 7....
    5 months ago by DodgyGeezer
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    (Tug Boat) North Rock
    Got a lot of info on the
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    D.M.I. Samson tug from the members . the thing is I saw a drawing of the North Rock tug boat & thought I would rebuild the Samson & build the North Rock tug .Researched original after I painted her & found out the it was white superstructure & black hull to late (8/10)
    5 months ago by GARTH
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    Thank's again used google translator . I'll post a photo of the North Rock - was DMI Samson about 30 years ago & I'll have to put it up on my Harbor page
    5 months ago by GARTH
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    πŸ‘ BTW it is not German but Norwegian Use Google translate it's not perfect but give you an idea about it
    5 months ago by Tica
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    Wow that's the tug . it was a fairly simple kit so over the years I change it to look like North Rock tug Alexander towing Company Thank you very much . P/S the write up is in German I think so I can't read it but photos are great .
    5 months ago by GARTH
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    Happy new year to you to I would believe that the Samson is DMI Samson http://www.radiostyrt.no/forum/modellb%C3%A5ter/byggeprosjekter/51973-dmi-samson The yacht could be BB Neptun (I have a complete kit and a copy of the drawing on stock), Sea Star or Sea King both is with ABS hull. It could also be DMI admiral. But I don't recall any DMI / BB yachts that was to be painted yellow. Regards Carsten
    5 months ago by Tica
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    Hi Garth & Brianaro, l too have been building
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    kits, although l do find some of there instructions a bit hit and miss, but l think any kit has its challenge. My first Billing kit was the Norden fishing boat, my second kit was the Boulogne-Etaples, now l am currently building the St Canute tug, but l took a rest during the run up and over Xmas, to be honest l am struggling with the hull planking, so l will knuckle down very soon. I have also built the Aero-naut Diva which was a fine kit to make. Your chat reminded me of my early school days (late 50’s) when l used to spend my paper round money of the β€œKeilcraft boat kits” (May have got the kit name wrong), the boat l recall was called the Mermaid, does anyone out there remember these early kits? Anyway chaps l’ve attached photos of my current finished kits, l always like to see other completed kits! Happy new year and good modelling for 2019 Richard
    5 months ago by Richard7
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    They are nice kits to build
    5 months ago by Brianaro
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    Thanks .I forgot to mention all the Billing models I'v built Wasa,Bluenose,Cutty Sark ,Cux 87 Krabbencutter first r/c build, Queen of The Mississippi , Viking ship real type , Spanish galleon , I'm not bragging just like to build .
    5 months ago by GARTH
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    Hello Garth, happy new year to you too. I built Billing Sea Adler in the late β€˜70s. About ten years ago I started Mary Anne but have yet to complete it. Somewhere I think I still have a 1970s Billing catalogue, I’ll try and look it out at some stage when I get a chance. Billing I think are very good models.
    5 months ago by Brianaro
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    (Working Vessel) Fairmount Glacier
    A
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    kit, the Fairmount Glacier (or Alpine - comes with 5 naming options) is a sturdy boat... 2 props in Kort nozzles, extras I've fitted...37 lights, bow thruster, working fire monitors, radar, & horn. Runs on 2 x 12v 7AH batteries, so runs for a while! Colour scheme makes it visible on the lake too! (Motor: 2 x M500 Mtronix) (ESC: JP Marine) (9/10)
    5 months ago by Harvey Kitten
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    I already mentioned in another thread ("Any Clues") that three boats have been dumped in my workshop to see if I can find a buyer for any of them. 1) Caldercraft "Joffre" Tug, already built but in grave need of TLC with the propshaft tight and the rudder shaft too tight to move. The vessel is filthy dirty. 2)
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    "Le Pourquoi-pas", hull assembled with decks, remainder of kit & fittings look to be complete 3)
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    "Smit Nederland" Nr 528 - unstarted kit but does not have detail fittings I can post any of these boats and would appreciate a sensible offer for any of them - I do need the space to get on with my own work. Please PM me for any further information Regards Barry
    1 year ago by aanside
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    Appreciate your postings very much. Just getting started on mine and this will help me in getting more confidence as I am new to the hobby. Bruno
    9 months ago by Bruno
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    Built from a
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    kit I bought at Bury Metro open day. This is quite an old kit and needed careful handling due to it's age. I needed to reinforce the hull in places. Quite a reasonably easy kit to build, despite
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    (as usual) not providing any instructions, jus drawings to guide the builder. (Motor: 555) (ESC: BDESC-S10E) (8/10)
    9 months ago by liamduck
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    11 months ago by Ron
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    Much better than the hull of the ancient Billing fish cutter Gina 2 I've just started to restore and convert. Took the deck out last night to reveal the awful hull planking πŸ€” Good luck, will watch with interest πŸ‘ Cheers, Doug 😎
    12 months ago by RNinMunich
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    The hull looks in good shape from the photo. Have fun with the restoration though. Plenty of scope...Could be steam powered? All the best. Brian
    12 months ago by Gascoigne
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    Didn't know you were into cloning Graham πŸ˜‰ Know the feeling, my workshop is also overflowing so Graf Spee now resides on a glass shelf above the dining table and the PTB in the bookshelf 😁 BTW: the fishing boat I inherited from my aunt, and thought was from Kent cos we all hail from East Kent, most of us from Folkestone (my H class destroyer HMS Hotspur absolved her Sea Trials on Radnor Park pond around 1966) turned out to be a
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    kit of a Danish fish cutter based in Ebsjerg Denmark! No idea how Aunty got hold of itπŸ˜‰ Good luck with fleabayπŸ‘ Cheers,Doug 😎
    12 months ago by RNinMunich
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    Hi Ian, managed to find the original
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    Boats drawing and the build manual here http://www.billingboats.com/2/13/boats/the-expert/P-bb437-norske-love.html Have fun, nice subject πŸ‘ bit fiddly for me though 😲 Cheers Doug
    1 year ago by RNinMunich
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    Just acquired this from my brother, it's in need of complete re build and RC install Dave
    1 year ago by Dave Kershaw
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    Hi Frodo and Richard, Herewith the 19th epistle from the Munich detachment to the ....!? Problems are only challenges waiting for an elegant solution!
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    just wanted to keep costs down, you have the tips soooooo - Go go go Guys πŸ‘ 😎
    1 year ago by RNinMunich
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    Hi Richard, it does seem really odd , especially if you look at the plans for the planking which seem to indicate planks are long enough. Anyway who know maybe a bad set of wood, but sure will work!
    1 year ago by Frodo31
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    Thanks Richard, that's fineπŸ‘ "1Amp delta peak" so no high current, excellent. Will charge the 3700 compact in about 4 hours from flat. BTW: don't let the pack go below 1.1V per cell, they don't like it and get lazy! Go go goπŸ˜‰ Doug 😎
    1 year ago by RNinMunich
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    Hi Doug....I've attached a photo of the charger, its a Sprint NX84 purchased from Cornwall Model Boats... Richard
    1 year ago by Richard7
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    Hi Richard, if the charger was good for the original battery and both are NiMH it will be good for the new one as well. One thing bothers me slightly: what does 'Sprint' charger mean? Just a name or does it only do fast charging at high current? Which is not recommended as it shortens the battery life. πŸ˜† Which charger is it? All the best, Doug 😎
    1 year ago by RNinMunich
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    It should be fine basically same battery as your original one just been assembled differently
    1 year ago by kmbcsecretary
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    Thanks Skipper, the charger that I have does have Tamiya connections, but can I use the existing charger that I have or should I buy another one for the compact battery? I don't want to damage the new battery when it arrives.... Cheers
    1 year ago by Richard7
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    Richard the battery should come with the standard tamiya connection
    1 year ago by kmbcsecretary
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    Doug, when l purchase the compact battery pack from the web site you advised, do you think l need to purchase a different charger? I have a sprint charger that l was using for the longer battery pack that will not fit into the St Canute. Cheers Richard
    1 year ago by Richard7
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    Hi everyone, l checked the planking balsa in the kit and they are all the same length, so when fitting l assume that you should start from the bow end and the next from the stern end and vice versa. Then fill the shorter lengths use a full plank strip and cut small lengths to fill the end gaps? Between us l cannot see what the logic is behind Billing Boats doing this? Both my previous billing boat kits came with planking longer than needed. All very odd. I will ensure that l strengthen the keel as suggested, thanks to all for your help. Frodo l look forward to seeing some photos of your planking once you’ve started. Cheers Richard.
    1 year ago by Richard7
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    Go for it Frodo πŸ‘πŸ‘ Look forward to the pics (Build Blog?) and 'Maiden' vid πŸ˜‰ PS I have downloaded the 'destructions' and find that the German translation from the Danish is slightly better, but the format of Billing's instructions is basically Sh-one-T. instructions for 'Insiders'. Ran across this phenomenon professionally here in Germany with Operating Manuals and System Descriptions written by the development engineers. THEY KNEW how it all worked!😲 I had to introduce a new style which helped the guy confronted with the 'beast' for the first time to use it and to fix it if the wheels fell off. And for the Admiral a System Description which would simply explain to him why he should spend his hard fought budget on that particular equipment or system. Lots a fun πŸ˜‰
    1 year ago by RNinMunich
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    Hey guys all amazing tips, I will give it a go, I am amazed at how bad the instricuons are for what is meant to be a beginners (all be it advanced beginners ) build ! I will post some pics as I go along, thanks all
    1 year ago by Frodo31
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    Agreed Ron, that keel joint definitely needs some reinforcementπŸ‘ Personally I would do the same between all the bulkheads to give the last plank something to sit on and strengthen the whole shebang. Actually it should be the first plank; start at the keel and work up on alternate sides. πŸ‘ BTW Richard, if you buy a 68cm battery you'll have to build a half full size boat πŸ˜‰πŸ˜ Also, when cutting the planks try to make sure that you don't have short pieces at the stern. They will be harder to keep in place than longer chunks and won't take the hull shape properly and smoothly. Try to keep the joints somewhere in the mid section where the hull is flatter and the joints are under less stress BUT not one above the other, stagger them at least one bulkhead from plank to plank. If you don't get on with the bender (and the hull will be painted and not varnished) you could cheat a little (we all do it when it suits😊) and glue balsa blocks around the stern and carve and sand to fit. @ Frodo, this was originally your thread 😲 - hope you are following and all this helps you as well!? Best of luck to you both, cheers Doug 😎
    1 year ago by RNinMunich
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    Hi Richard and Frodo there are some good video clips on youtube showing planking techniques maybe of some help
    1 year ago by BigAlio
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    not used the plank benders before richard i have made my own plank steamer to soften the planks for bending using a wallpaper stripper with a length of copper pipe fixed to the end to place the planks in works a treat 😎 may i remind you richard i noticed there is no strengthener on the joint below where the motor couplings is, i know it goes below the planking line but you could still place a strengthener above the planking line in side the hull
    1 year ago by kmbcsecretary
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    You guys are good,very good! Going to order the hump back battery (68cm), that will save me butchering anymore of the bulk heads......huge thanks! Regarding the planking in the kit, they are all the same length about 90 cm short of the actual boat length, have purchased a β€œplanking machine from Mantua, never used one before but am hoping it will help me to bend the planks before fixing with glue, have you used anything like that, any tips? Cheers and thanks
    1 year ago by Richard7
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    Hi Richard, so far Ron has been right on the button πŸ‘ and just beat me to it on the planking. BTW: Planning is half the game, so first split the planking packs into two equal sets. Offer up the shorter planks to the framing to see where to cut with absolute minimum wastage. MEASURE TWICE OR THRICE AND CUT ONCE!! is the maximπŸ˜‰ Work on alternate sides to minimise twisting of the hull. Good luck. The second batt Ron suggests should be your solution as it's only about 68mm long. The 'inline' pack you have is about 105mm. https://www.componentshop.co.uk/7-2v-3700mah-sc-nimh-compact-battery-pack-hbz6512.html Actually the Billing instructions (such as they areπŸ€”) recommend an 8.4V pack, but since you have fitted a more powerful motor than recommended this 7.2V pack should throttle it back a bit πŸ˜‰ Run time probably less than with the 400 though. Cheers Doug 😎 PS Dimensions of Hump Pack added; too long! 112mmπŸ˜†
    1 year ago by RNinMunich
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    hi Richard this is a hump back battery (pic 1) or you could use a compact battery (pic 2) both can be found at https://www.componentshop.co.uk/batteries/radio-control/large-power-packs/72v-84v.html You could change the motor for the smaller 400 type if you could find use for the 500 for something else but you have altered the framing to fit the 500 now so it would mean having to undo what you have done and at this stage do you think its worth the hassle only you can decide that. Ron
    1 year ago by kmbcsecretary
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    Hey thanks Ron for the planking tip....as for the battery have you got a photograph picture of a hump back battery? Like you mentioned my other option would be to take some of the forward bulkhead out, dam there’s not a lot of space in this model, it’s taken me by surprise still it’s all good experience. in your opinion would you keep the larger motor fitted or would you change it for the smaller version M400? Thanks again for your kind help...Richard
    1 year ago by Richard7
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    R E the battery richard the easiest option would be to change the battery for a hump back one, i know components sell them but unsure from other suppliers Ron
    1 year ago by kmbcsecretary
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    R E the planking i would suggest that you cut the timber at the closest bulk head to where the blank ends then with the length of timber that you cut of the end piece use that for the next plank starting at the opposite end to the last one and just keep repeating as you go, that way you dont get joints in the same area along the hull making it stronger just remember that you need to cut at a bulwark and to leave half of the thickness of the bulwark for your next joining timber. do not cut the lengths in half as all you end up doing is wasting a lot of material and joints in the same area of the hull resulting in a weak point. Ron
    1 year ago by kmbcsecretary


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