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First time Thames Sailing Barge Build

I am about to begin a model Thames Sailing Barge. The best scale for my home is 1/67 but here is my problem. Can anyone please advise me if it is possible to obtain all deck fittings (, winches and all) at this scale or do I need a re-think on the size of model? Many thanks in advance for any advice even if it is simply to think again!! Regards Steve

4 years ago by Cragrat

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Re: 40'' Seaplane Tender, new build Z 7.1

That really looks the the part. I had the feeling that you would do that especially after the bugged you so much. Martin555.

5 years ago by Martin555

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Re: 40'' Seaplane Tender, new build Z7

"Happiness filled now with the new ?!" Deep joy JB 😊👍 😎

5 years ago by RNinMunich

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Re: 40'' Seaplane Tender, new build Z7

Re- I'm afraid to show my 'junk' now JB And so you should be Doug, you can get arrested for that😂 Happiness filled now with the new ? JB

5 years ago by jbkiwi

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Re: 40'' Seaplane Tender, new build Z-6

Re -I knew those original would bug you. And you would be absolutely correct Martin!, - see adjustment update😊 Probably be about 8" , (scale size). Better now? (haven't glued them yet just in case!) Dinghy's about 7ft scale guess from photo, (most tenders here were around 7-9ft and mostly prams) The tender for Jaguar was either glass or moulded ply, (not a pram) but who will ever know, just needed a dinghy on the roof. JB

5 years ago by jbkiwi

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40'' Seaplane Tender, new build Z-6B

Small size adjustment to (yes Martin, they bugged the hell out of me!), - not perfect but little bit more 'manly' (or personly to be PC😁) now. Doug will be happier too! Rubbing strips on the dinghy this morning and a coat of air freshener (see can) applied. off to the spotlight store to find some canvas look alike material for the rear cover. JB

5 years ago by jbkiwi

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Re: 40'' Seaplane Tender, new build Z-6

Hi Jb, I knew those original would bug you.LOL! Great job, well done. Martin555.

5 years ago by Martin555

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40'' Seaplane Tender, new build Z-6

Did my 80km round trip to the 'local' hobby shop and bought a few bits for the model. Bought a block of balsa for the dinghy (which was carried on the roof) some Tamiya 6mm masking tape (thanks Doug, they even have 3mm), some 1/8" black Sig superstripe tape (going to try that for the boot topping as my hands are not as steady these days with brushes), and some brass rod to re-do the . Dinghy hull is shaped, are made and dinghy gunwale strips are boiled and bent. The small in the pic (on mould 'rack') will be cut in half and used for canopy hooks for the rear cockpit. (ripper 'donner and blitzen' storm just started - power's probably going off soon if it keeps up!) The black deck matting is textured art paper I found at the big local stationary store and is coated with very thin dope (to waterproof) and contact glued to the deck. Makes pretty accurate matting I think. JB

5 years ago by jbkiwi

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Re: 40'' Seaplane Tender, new build Z-4

Thanks Red, getting there slowly. Started off with a hiss and a roar but having to wait a month for each accessory to come from China slows you down, (sometimes gets here in 2 or 3 weeks and then takes another week or so to travel the 20km from the airport to me, -customs,and 3 or 4 courier exchanges later, - frustrating) The dashboards are always time consuming as trying to find decent clear pics that will scale down nicely can take forever (and of course trying to find gauges which would be used ie oil, water, battery, rev counter - to scale for the engines - ie diesel rev counters usually only go to around 4000rpm etc.) A lot of older boats didn't have speedos so that's 1 less you don't have to find (they just went by RPM) I'm also having to do work on my house (ongoing project-10 yrs so far) so work on models takes a back seat at times. Just a few things to go, like boot topping on 1 side, a dinghy (which they carried on the cabin roof) and the rear cockpit canvas cover. Windows just have to be glued on and a few small things (make the larger) and that will be about it. JB

5 years ago by jbkiwi

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Re: 40'' Seaplane Tender, new build Z-1

Hi JB, I forgot to answer your question about the deck . Just looking at the photos they seem correct. Deck come in a lot of sizes so only an expert on that type of boat will be able to say. (or a scale rivet counter LOL!) If they start to bug you then partly hide them with slightly under scale rope. It could be just one of those things that gets in to your head. As my profile signature says:- "If it looks right then it probably is." Martin555.

5 years ago by Martin555

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Re: 40'' Seaplane Tender, new build Z-1

"Didn't quite make it by Z but what the hell." Never mind Number One, just tack the German umlauts on the end 😉 Ä, Ö, Ü, and their funny double S, ß ! That gives you four more chances😁 Boat looking highly Bristol fashion, Chapeau 👍 Ref the masking tape. Any form of crepe / decorators tape is a dead loss for modelling, as you've discovered. I use Tamiya masking tape. Comes in widths of 8mm upwards, gives a good clean sharp line, is flexible to go round compound curves (such as chine and bilge lines etc) and doesn't pull paint off. No scalpel needed. Dodgy business that!🤕 I just mark the waterline with 8 or 10mm Tamiya tape then apply newspaper and normal masking tape to cover the rest of the model. Works a treat, every time😊 Available all over the shop! Try plastic kit or model railway shops. They usually have it in stock along with the paints👍 I buy mine in "mini-bulk" along with Tamiya sanding sponges and other supplies from places like Krick here in Germany. BTW Lovely clean windows and cabin interior👍 Apropos ; they do look a bit "toylike" JB Cheers, Doug 😎

5 years ago by RNinMunich

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Re: 40'' Seaplane Tender, new build Z-1

They are all cut Martin (and I was right again,-forgot about them!) only have to paint a trim around and stick them on. Was leaving them till last so they didn't get damaged by cyno drips etc while sticking other things on. Not exactly rushing as I've been doing other things as well. Shouldn't take long to do the final bits. Do you think the look a bit small? Spent 1/2 of Friday and Sat with my son, sorting paperwork and picking up his latest car,(Honda CR-Z Hybrid) Told him to buy something simple and reliable, but did he listen!?? (his 3rd car in 5 yrs, - wrecked the other 2) If he doesn't take care of this one it's going to cost him some serious $$$. Nice car (Jap import, all the fruit, -more to clap out) Thing rides like a go-kart, you would not want to do a long trip in it! JB

5 years ago by jbkiwi

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40'' Seaplane Tender, new build Z-1

Didn't quite make it by Z but what the hell. Thought I'd throw a small bit of progress in as there seems to be a bit of a building lull lately. Made the rear wheelhouse partition and 'louvre' door, and 4 , which I think look too small (ran out larger of brass rod) but are made with the vertical stem going through the washer as a pin, and are not yet glued in. Finished the rear cockpit trimming and internal water diverting coamings, and done one side of the boot topping to try and tidy up the waterline, (the masking tape all seems to be crap and bleeds - unless you want to spend $18 for 'professional' stuff which is probably just as bad!) Hard to find thin trimming tape these days as well, so have to cut your own to go round tight curves. Used to use thin dope to seal the edges years ago (on coloured doped aircraft) but will melt the acrylic and leave a raised edge, which I won't be painting up to. You have to do a number of really light coats if you want to stop it bleeding, and run a blunt tool along the edge really firmly beforehand (still not good enough really). Could have used pin-striping tape but that leaves a raised stripe (scale waterline would be about 1"thick) also $15 a roll with 90% left over (bit of a waste). I also roughly superimposed the model on the original photo to see how it compared. The original is a late model MK 1 narrow hull, but I went with the Mk 2 41'6" version with the longer wider hull (to have more internal room to play with) but with the coamings, masts etc of the original. The MK 2 has a more pronounced 'Clipper' bow with more flare and is wider 'midships' but the wheelhouse is pretty similar. There ain't no one to worry about the accuracy these days as there are few good photos of the original (pretty well just mine and a friends fuzzy super 8 captures) so it's just a rough crack at it (also using a bit of the old 'poetic license'). Will email a pic to the current owner when I've finished and see what he thinks. Just have dash and wheel to do now (I think - bound to have missed something) Oh, that's right, - the rear cockpit canvas and dinghy! (I knew that😁)

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