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Vintage Model Works 46'' RAF Crash Tender

Here's the history bit so pay attention... Many years ago as a boy in the fifth year of my north London secondary school, circa 1971, our woodwork class was given the option to make something of our own choice. Having mastered the majority of joints, wood turning, finishing techniques and the making of table lamps, stools and bookshelves etc. this seemed a good idea, so myself and a fellow classmate and model making chum asked if we could construct a model boat. The teacher, on hearing that it was to be from a kit and not from scratch was a little surprised but agreed. So my friend and I jointly invested about 20 quid in an Aerokits 34.5 inch RAF Crash Tender from Blunts' model shop in Mill Hill (long since gone like many others) and we set about construction during lesson time and sometimes at break times. I recall we used "Cascamite" to glue it all together on the advice of the woodwork teacher because neither 'Scotch' glue nor PVA was suited to marine construction. Good progress was made over the course of our last year at school but it was never fully completed, only requiring painting, running gear and detailing. My friend decided that he needed to withdraw from the project as he was enrolling in a college away from home to study for a career in the merchant navy and I agreed to buy out his share and continue with the project. And so it was that I carried on with the painting and installing the running gear which consisted of a 1.5 cc marine diesel engine, water pickup, prop shaft and rudder and a MacGregor radio system with a stick for steering and a single button for speed control. The engine and radio came from Michael's Models in Finchley (also long gone) for £20 as my elder brother, who had started a Saturday job there, was able to get a staff discount for me. The diesel engine was noisy and smelly and a pig to start with a leather thong around the flywheel and I decided to abandon this means of propulsion (I foolishly ran it for slightly too long 'dry' and melted the soldering around the brass water jacket!). By now I had graduated from my part time job in Woolies to an engineering apprentice with Post Office Telephones and my new income of 20 quid per week could support my modelling and electronics hobbies after my contribution to the household for my keep. So off to the model shop to buy a Taycol Supermarine electric motor, two 12v volt lead acid batteries and a suitable charger. The diesel came out and was sold on Exchange & Mart and the mount and coupling re-made to accommodate the new Taycol motor. What an improvement that was! I can't remember now what speed controller or servo I used but whatever it was did the job, and it went like the clappers on Friary Park boating lake (also long since gone) even though the radio control system was a bit crude with the non-proportional steering and 'blip' throttle control. The boating took a back seat when I acquired my driving and my first car (a rusty old Cortina Mk 1) and I also got involved in sound recording for radio. I decided to sell the boat and bits for £60 through Exchange & Mart and bought an Akai 4000DS tape recorder and a 'Chilton' audio mixer, built a home studio and along with a good mate of mine started making radio commercials for the new commercial radio stations including London's Capital Radio. We even won a 'Campaign' advertising award for one of our efforts! And so after several years as a 'phone engineer I moved into professional recording for A/V and broadcast and then into TV production. Fast forward to today. Semi-retired with grand kids and with more free time on my hands I still had an interest in model making so in Jan 2016 went to the Model Engineer exhibition at nearby 'Ally Pally'. It was there that I saw an RAF crash tender just like the one I built all those years ago and got into conversation with the chap on the stand. This re-ignited my model making interests and I researched the hobby and that model in particular.

8 years ago by robbob

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Range Safety Launch?

The ‘Range Safety Launch’…………. Intro. I am now the owner of this boat. Wooden, good hull lines and hull paint work but needing to be finished. I am told that it looks like it started life as a kit, but has had considerable modification to at least the above deck layout and detail. Advice is that it could be a rather simplified Range Safety Launch, but maybe I can use a little ‘artistic ’ and just make it look interesting and capable. There are two main reasons for sharing this project. 1. I will undoubtedly need guidance 2. Maybe some of the information will assist others The hull is 44 inches ( 112cm ) long and 14 inches (36cm ) wide, it has two brushed MFA Torpedo 800 motors………. and weighs in currently at 15 lbs 4ozs (6.91 kgs). It is large enough for me to be able to work on reasonably comfortably and apart from the cabin/upper deck areas to be ‘improved’, I aim to introduce sound, lighting, active radar sweep, search light, together with maybe a deck hoist and water /fire monitor appliance. At my age it is difficult to tell the difference between wishful thinking and dementing…… However, the prime aim is to try and achieve at least some of this whilst having the boat usable during the current ‘season’. There is so much knowledge, good will and help available on this site that even before I touched a thing, information came pouring in. If anyone feels like making a contribution then please just ‘pile in’. Have ordered some parts so next time should have something to show. NPJ.

6 years ago by NPJ

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PBR - Patrol Boat Riverine

Proboat Alpha - ready to run, model of PBR, Patrol Boat Riverine, used by US Navy during Vietnam conflict, served 1967 -1972. Images show basic detail, 1/18 scale, with crew. Bow gunner servo is linked to rudder. Comes with Navlights, looking forward to a night sail.....some painting added to weather craft, as well as painting radar housing a lighter grey....and the canvas roof over wheel house....a little artistic with vessel numbers......Brown Navy did'nt always have numbered vessels....but could'nt help myself. Bravo Zulu Chaps😉

6 years ago by POGray

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Dumas 1203 Coast Guard Lifeboat (RNLI Waveney conversion)

So here we go again! I have decided to give other projects a rest for a time in favour of this little gem. Pick up off eBay for less than £100 NIB posted, couldnt resist! Its the Dumas (kit no:1203) 44' Coast Guard Lifeboat. I dont know if this kit is still produced by Dumas and having looked at the Die cutting of the parts, certainly seems like an old kit? However, I love my building and the challenges, so I am sure it will turn out nice at the end. Finished length 33". I shall be converting this to a RNLI Waveney Class Lifeboat and will possibly go with 44-003 named "Khami" which was based in Great Yarmouth and Gorleston, which is local to me here in Suffolk. Sadly very little turns up on this boat via Google, but at some stage may pop out to the Great Yarmouth Lifeboat station and see if I can hunt anymore info on her. I shall not be using the recommended Dumas running gear for 2 reasons, 1st its a geared set-up (I am going with MFA540 brushed direct drive) and the cost of over £150! Photos show the box artwork, plans and the included wood. Last photo shows my electrics less propshafts and props that are on order. Note the Star Wars 3.75" figures that with poetic could be painted to represent crew. However, at this point the model is approx 1;16 scale and the figures would be 1:18 scale so maybe too small. There are 1:16 scale lifeboat figures available but pricey? My one issue at this point is going to battery choice? do I go with a small 6v lead acid or perhaps 2 Tamiya type 7.2v NIMH in series. anyone who has built anything like this may want to advise. LIPO not an option as the Mtroniks ESC do not support LIPO. Space inside the hull may also be an issue? Another issue is going to be fabricating some propshaft struts for the rear next to the props. There is quite a bit of prop shaft exposed outside the hull, so these would be integral to support and strength of the propshafts. is there anything available off the shelf (they are included in the running gear set, but dont seem to be available on there own) of do I need to fabricate from brass tube and sheet/strip brass?

6 years ago by Skydive130

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New Lake at Colwyn?

Regrettably not, we still don't have a to use the lake for events and possibly never will.

6 years ago by kinmel

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Too Powerful Brushless ?

I always use as smaller rudder as I can get away with. I had been running model boats for many years then one day when on Blackheath pond someone was watching my boat and remarked on how it turned. badly, and I replied that's how it had always turned. The guy had a boat the same as mine it was a MFA Spearfish, He asked if he could swap rudders on my boat and try his on my boat so that's what I done and it performed much better on the water. I then tried it on my Vosper RAF Crash Tender and it just stuck to the water on any turn tight or wide. So I have done this ever since. On my Huntsman I had turned it over several times before trying this so I done the same on this and once again it was a lot better turning and didn't turn over. I don't like using large rudders if I cannot get one small enough for what I wan't I will get one and then cut it down. We used to race 5 or 6 boats on the water at a time and always needed to turn tight turns to get round the pond. Even watching Power Boat racing on the telly in the past they make tight turns to get round. I have a Probaot Miss Geico tunnel hull and straight from the box brand new the rudder on that has no leading edge and I can turn that flat out on the water with no roll at all. I suppose I am a speed freak and it has worked fine for me. Even if it is the wrong thing to do. The small avatar picture on my posts is a boat I have in Norfolk. This has a 1960 Volvo Penta outdrive probably one of the earliest one's made and that doesn't like to turn on 3/4 throttle without the engine revs dropping and digging in on a turn. I have tried this when out on open water up there. Don't try it now as got a warning from the Norfolk River Constabulary. Don't want to loose my river .

6 years ago by BOATSHED

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SRN3

A challenging project 10 years ago. Scratch built model of theSRN3 built under by the US for use in the Mekong delta against the VC in Vietnam. Very light construction with liteply. Two ESPs control brushed and brushless motors for lift and propulsion. Motor tube ball-raced at each end with a 9x6 pusher prop. Realistic performance and sounds like a turbo prop. Tricky to control in anything stronger than a light breeze. Best on water.

6 years ago by Gascoigne

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USS Seahawk

Its 24" long all tins n clocks, totally fictitious boat totally not to scale and the bow is unclipperyfied for a gato! but what the hell im using tinsmithery . www.mclarenclockworksubmarines.com

7 years ago by mactin

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RAF rescue launch shape

Hi All, surprisingly (to me anyway) there is a cross-link here to the Elco PT boats! Apparently Scott-Paine took his 70ft PT9 HSL/PTB design to America looking for cooperation with Packard for engines and extra production facilities. This was the birth of the Elco PT Boat series! We all think of them as American, but the design was British 👍😉 From Scott-Paine's biography- "PT boats (First Pic shows Elco 70-foot (21 m) PT boat PT-10 in 1941) In 1939 agreement was reached with the American Electric Launch Company (Elco) to purchase a British Power Boat 70-footer (later named PT9), as a template for American production under . PT9 (second pic 1940) was taken by the US President Roosevelt to Elco’s works at New London, Connecticut. On 3 October Scott-Paine met President Roosevelt and senior Elco representatives at the White House to authorize the creation of a new naval arm, the PT Boat Squadrons. (PT boat was short for Patrol Torpedo boat). Production started at a new Elco factory at Bayonne, New Jersey in January 1940. The Canadian Power Boat Company was set up by Scott-Paine in 1940. This produced 39 boats, mainly MTBs. After the passing of Lend-Lease in 1941 comparative trials, nicknamed the Plywood Derbys, were held between rival American boatbuilders, Elco winning both. Elco went on to produce 754 70-, 77-, and 80-foot (24 m) PT boats, including Jack Kennedy’s PT109 as well as the boat that rescued General Douglas MacArthur from Corregidor. Later years In December 1944, Scott-Paine received a cheque for $200,000 with an accompanying letter of appreciation for his contributions made to the development of the PT boat from Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal. The money was from Elco and was brokered by legal teams, releasing Elco from any and all further liabilities concerning the license rights." Well! Did you ever !!😉 Cheers Doug 😎

7 years ago by RNinMunich

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Denatured Alcohol

Hi Chris ,spoke to the guy who orders the cleaning stuff for the work he doesn't use it but said hobbyists or small businesses can get up to 20L or less for personal use you would need a he gave me the address if your interested ,its National Registration Unit ,HMRC Portcullis House 21 india Street Glasgow G2 4PZ The form you need is Public Notice 473

7 years ago by marky

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Colwyn Bay MBC - 2017 Regatta is cancelled

The 2017 Mayor's Cup Regatta that was due to be held on 23rd July at Colwyn Bay has had to be cancelled and may not return in future years. We are in the process of moving to our new lake and we are yet to install all the facilities there. There is also the small matter of obtaining the necessary , plus H&S and Insurance approvals to hold large events there. Thank you to all the clubs, traders and individuals whose support over the years made it all possible.

8 years ago by kinmel

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U-Boat U47

Forgive the artistic taken in this video...but it was too good an opportunity to miss! 😜

7 years ago by Dom of Essential RC

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electronics

Hi Analyst, Did you ever get you amateur (TICKET)? Ed

7 years ago by figtree7nts

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Crash Tender planking

Hi Martin. I'm pleased that my blog is interesting and helpful, but I don't want to mislead you on some of the details I have included on my model. I don't have any real hard evidence that there was any type of fancy decking on either of the fireboats, indeed I do believe that it's more than likely that the deck areas that I have finished with planking were probably just painted the same as the main deck and upperworks. These were working boats that would get harsh use and treatment so any type of adornment would be a waste of time and money. I do have a drawing of the tow hook deck that certainly shows an underlying planked construction of the rear decks but no finishing details. The only 'photo of the rear well that I have doesn't seem to show any visible planking so I suspect it was all just painted. My decision to plank these decks is pure 'modelling ' as used by many other modellers of these boats and I think it adds interesting detail to what would otherwise be a very utilitarian vessel. Without access to the full original Vosper construction drawings and possibly other photographic evidence the decking question is open to speculation. Rob (Robbob)

7 years ago by robbob

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Planking...part 1.

As a novice boat builder I have never done any planking before but after seeing some fine examples on other crash tender decks and read other blog descriptions of the process I thought I’d give it a try as it would be more pleasing to the eye than a plain painted surface. I’m not sure how true to the prototype the planking is on a RAF Crash Tender as it’s not described in the Vosper documentation but I think some ‘modelling ’ is justified for the visual effect. The choice of materials, planking sizing and the method of ‘caulking’ were all studied in detail in the blogs and discussions and I finally decided on 7mm x 1.5mm maple for the planking and some .7mm black plasticard cut into fine strips for the caulking. All the required materials were ordered from Cornwall Model Boats and all arrived remarkably quickly packed in a long cardboard tube two days later… very good service and quality materials! I made a practice piece to test the process and materials before committing it to the boat, I used a teak stain on the wood as a test as well but decided I preferred the natural colour of the maple after it was lacquered with a few coats of satin finish. When I felt I was sufficiently proficient to start for real I elected to do the relatively small area of the tow hook deck first. This was marked out to get the correct centering of the planks and I commenced with the application of a 5mm border with mitred corners and the plasticard caulking strips on the inside edges. The maple planking is very easy to cut and trim and is also reasonably consistent in width and thickness. I’m using a medium cyano glue for all of this as it grabs very quickly so that I can work at a reasonable pace but my finger-tips unavoidably end up getting stuck occasionally too 😡 Working from the centre line outwards the maple strips and caulking were fixed down, the final outer pieces on each side needed to be slightly wider to fill the space but the difference is barely noticeable. The ‘caulking ‘ was carefully trimmed flush with the deck with a very sharp half inch chisel and the whole surface sanded smooth. Several coats of acrylic satin lacquer were then applied by brush as I decided it would be easier than masking up the surrounding areas. Buoyed by the success of this I think I'll do the mid-deck and the cockpit too 😁

7 years ago by robbob

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from the Philippines

Hi Analyst, I like your project but, hopefully you don't have to use 6 metres band for radio control of your model. you would have to have a Amatuers as well. maybe your friend can make an receive amp for 2.4 gig Radio control! or find out your local frequency for Radio Control Here is some idea for you motors. http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/MFA-Torpedo-800-850.html Good luck

7 years ago by figtree7nts

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New Lake at Colwyn?

The dinosaurs went a good few years ago and we have just scrapped the remaining paddle boats. No Regatta this year, our old lake may be empty by then and our for the new lake is still a work in progress. This year is all about completing the move and settling in.

7 years ago by kinmel

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Hello and some initial questions

Hello. I have recently joined the forum since I cane across it when trying to find out some info about the Aerokits\KielCraft RAF Crash Tender model. Something just less than 50 years ago I started building the 34.5 inch model, and never finished it. I even had an electric motor ready, a beautiful thing with an open frame, all red enamel and shiny metal, don't know what happened to it. Any way on a trip back to the UK to vist my parents ( who still live in the house they did then ) I removed the hull from the top of a cupboard in Dad's, fortunately very large, garage. Boxed it up and brought it back to Australia with me. I hope that now I am retired I may be able to finish it. I probably have rather better financial resources that I did then and will be able to afford radio control now. My main hobby is SM32 garden railways and I am amazed at how much easier RC is now than it was in the 60's. I seem to recall you needed a back then. I may not be able to started on it right a way since I am supposed to be getting the house ready to put on the market, but I thought I would start asking a few questions, if you good people don't mind Firstly, there seems to be no mention of marine Internal combustion engines on the forum. Is that deliberate or are they just out of fashion. I believe the Crash Tender was specified for up to 3.5 cc (I could not afford that hence the electric motor) Secondly, I seem to have built some parts out of balsa (one side of the foredeck and a few other bits). I must replace those with ply. Do we just use standard birch ply like the aero modellers and (large scale railway modellers !) or is there a special marine version. Thirdly, How can I get hold of a set of plans and instructions? I saw some on Ebay a few weeks ago but didn't buy them since I presumed this was someone who was printing on demand and they would always be available. I have since discovered differently. I think that is enough for now. Thanks in advance. I attach a photo of the vessel in her current state. Regards Rob

8 years ago by robc_wa

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International Model Boat Show

Dreadful rain Sat morning but the 2 hr journey was worth it. Some fantastic models on show, way above my skill level. Found planet Rx which was lucky as they may not be making anymore ! Product for someone else to manufacture on ? What we need is an exhibition like this on the south Coast say Southampton ... Would be in reach for Cornwall and Kent

8 years ago by Tall Paul

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1 meter yacht GOTH

GOTH 1 mtr yacht built under from a plan bought from Frank Russel, This is a joint venture with my friend Brian Quinn to spread the cost of the build the plug was made from balsa then the mould was made gel coat & fibreglass the lead bulb was cast in green sand rudder & fin made the next job is to make the deck mould mast & fin box have been installed

8 years ago by Northumbrian

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Is westbournemodel@ co serious?

SkipperVOFGmBC did it: thanks to his intel and convincing work and to the reliability of Westbourne Models Directional staff I got the total resolution of the problem that, I repeat is securely totally due to the distance between us and relate comunication difficulty; Westbourne absolutely redimed and Skipper really great detective but primarly a nice and polite person: one word a"friend" with his "divertente" way to speak italian Tanks my friend and everybody who partecpatrd to this forum in the interest of us model hobby addicted

8 years ago by saintsalvio

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H.M.S. Bulldog /Beagle

Spent the last week working on the mainmast. Purchased a slow speed 12v motor to make the radar scanner operable. Also wanted to make the mast removable to reduce possible transport damage. By pulling gently upwards the mast and driveshaft pinion can be disengaged and the mast lifted off the model. Attached is a picture of the motor and integral gearbox. This was mounted upside down to the wheelhouse internal roof with the driveshaft poking through and pointing upwards (see last bog for a picture). The internal mast tube slipped snugly onto gearbox output shaft sleeve. The output shaft was extended up to the mast radar platform level using a length of brass tube with a small pinion gear fitted into the end. Used two idler gears from an old clock (which also provided the input shaft and radar shaft pinions) to link the input pinion to the scanner shaft pinion. This geartrain provided the correct offset for the scanner mounting shaft. The platform was made from styrene with brass bushes fitted to act as bearings for the pinions and idler gears. Unfortunately the platform is deeper than shown on the drawings, but it does not look out of place and is an appropriate place to use "modellers ". This approach avoided having the scanner motor slung under the platform and visible. The upper part of the mast was made from brass and functioning navigation lights added. Still a lot of mast detail to add, but the major structure is now complete and everything works!

8 years ago by Rowen

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Curlew

I'v made 4 versions of this boat Curlew, I did one at 75% of original, 125%, 150% and now I'm in the process of making one at 200%, plus the original size. I've made quite a few of these models using cardboard as used by photographers, and then skinned in Balsa plus tissue and dope, so they are sealed from the effects of water. The twice normal size is being made from plywood and balsa wood, I'm also doing a Tortola sloop, I havent seen any drawings other than a line drawing which I got from the magazine and enlarged, so the model is roughly 27 inches in length and 8 inches beam. I've fitted a motor but it will have sails as per original. Not sure about the deck layout so I have employed modellers , not having a proper drawing. it has balsa planks on bulkheads which are plywood as is the keel. I'll post a photo of the two boats....as I am working on each one doing a bit at a time. One thing I found with the Eezibilt models was the keels always seemed not deep enough. So I used to add a little...

8 years ago by modbot

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swordsman

I am not not not trying to incite un lawfull actively on this site or any another site or in anything in life. I was just debeating if any one has a plan of a swordsman or huntsman and if the plans should be now free. Re CDs and music _ films and art I think the copyright is 70 years now cliff Richards royalties where in danger. So selling film and music is wrong. design I think is 25 years that is why the kit car movement make replica cars.technically the copyright of any design belongs to the full size designer so when we make a model we technically go against copyright.so a lot of kit and plans also break copyright. Some ful size companies there design to model companies if it is a new model ( lotus) I will try to contact a friend who is a top rc aircarft designer on the copyright issue and try to be back to you. I am again trying not to encourage illegal activity just debating.

9 years ago by andrewandrachel

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fireboat update

Some modellers has been used and the fire monitors are now finished, painted and fitted, they are working monitors, well the will be if I fit a pump. Mostly made out of aluminium and brass, the oval bit in the middle of the body is made out of three pieces of plasticard as I don't have the skills to make this bit on the lathe. Thread lock was used to fix the brass tubes, seems to have worked alright.

10 years ago by AlanP

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fireboat update

Here is the tie down for the hook, made out of brass, string and a bit of modeller's , as Paul would say. I am also growing a seaman, he has no legs, hands or a head yet, but I am feeding him spinach every day, so here's hoping. 😁 Alan

10 years ago by AlanP

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raf fireboat

HI James Your right builders does come to mind !, I have tried to get a bit of a curve on the bow section now the sanding has come into play, the sides are not entirly flat they are curved it just does not show up well in that particular photo. now its skined it notices more. I dont think it will please the purist, just my interpretation of one. regards.

11 years ago by gooner68

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raf fireboat

I notice that your sides appear flat at the front of the boat, from gunwhale to chine.. I believe that these usually have a slight curve, is this builders ? I think there is also a slight curve on the transom sides too?

11 years ago by wombatjames

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flowerdown corvette

Got this one off ebay, had to use a little artistic with the paint scheme as club has several members with same scheme, so didnt want to look the same. The one thing I could not get over was how many parts were left over from the revell kit. Have a 380 motor in it with a msoniks 15 amp esc, could not get over how much ballast was needed to get her to sit in water true, but got there in the end. Now working on making homemade smoke generator to go in funnel, first tests great using nichrome wire and 6v battery, just have to make housing to go in funnel. Have tested parker black ink mixed in smoker fluid and effect looks fantastic.

12 years ago by vaderswar

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SET-UP ADVICE PLEASE.

HI Again,I do not have any pictures of the hull but if you would like to see it have a look on E-Bay,type in model boat hulls,about 3/4 down first page you will see listing for large model boat hull,5 foot long,GRP £35,see sellers other items it is there,says suitable for Destroyer,Frigate,aircraft carrier,passenger liner etc.49" long,11" beam,8" deep,this is the hull I am waiting to be delivered.As I said I am not looking to do a detailed model,just a copy with a lot of artistic ,The actual structure I am not to worried about,its the running gear I don't quite get yet,this is why I would like to keep it as simple as possible,as in,battery,speed controllers,with motors,shafts and props all in direct line,if it means smaller props and different size motors that would be fine,like I said I have not bought these items yet.By all means please have a look at the hull,see what you think would be an suitable model to build on it,I am open to any ideas.Once again thanks for all your help. Regards Pete

12 years ago by BARBOSA

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Kreigsmarine PA-2

I acquired this Snowberry in need of some TLC. I found some pictures of a flower class captured by the Germans in France. I used a bit of modellers but I think it does represent the ship. it is powered by a MFA 540, 6volt gel cell and ripmax esc. Tx rx 204 gig

12 years ago by modusman

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Aerokits

Yes I see it now you point it out.I can only Imagine that it looks even better in reality.My knowledge of these boats is zilch,A fellow club member picked up a vac formed hull and superstructure at Ellesmere show bring and buy for A£35 and asked if I would have a go at building it for him.I am sure you fireboat officianados would be horrified at the attempt I am making and no doubt there will be a lot of things incorrect by the time I have done.But hey-ho,I'll put it down to "modellers " as My mate is looking for a "representation" of a fireboat. What it has done however ,is generate a genuine liking for these type of craft,Fireboats,Crash tenders etc. so when I have got through my current projects will look seriously into getting one and doing it properly.Can you reccomend a commercially available kit,either 1/24 0r 1/32. I have been building for a few years now and my build list so far include Deams Marine MGB 77,many M S kits,nameley Tsekoa,Al Khubar,Envoy,Dutch Courage ,Our lass,Maggie M.My first build was a Robbe Antje followed by a Cap Maquettes SNS 2000 wooden kit.So you see my boat interests are many and varied.Andy

12 years ago by Balders

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Surfury

HI Gregg, I did enquire of SHG several years ago about the moulds for their Surfury and Cigarette offerings of the 70/80's but they reckoned that the moulds were long gone. I have already sent Jerome an email re permission to copy the hull I have , either via of some sort or a contribution to a charity of their choice for each one produced. If permission is not forthcoming, I'll just use the hull that I have for my own boat to go with the Cigarette. Regards Ian

12 years ago by tiggy_cat

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RAF Air Sea Rescue Launch 2507

HI TaffWhittle, 🙏 Thanks for the comment, my original plans started at some 33inch scalled up to 48inch original seemed a bit on the small side for the electronics I had planned. With regards to the internal set up they are all free lanced. The wheel house and rear cabin area info was partly on the plan I had and managed to locate a book on fast patrol boats to fill in the missing bits I required and may not be true to this model.The gun turret glass came from some toys from the ?1 shop. Most of the deck fittings are scratch built from plastic card and tube, this includes the deck boat the sides made from plastic strips. I tend not to build any of my models to true scale and use builders to get my overall effect when building scratch models at scale sizes that are not covered by manufacturers. if you send me an E mail address, will try and sort some info out for you, I think my original drawings I made for the internal work must be long gone. I know the original plan I worked from is still in the draw in the workshop with the rest of my plans. Heres hoping it dosnt take you as long to build yours, as mine was. Regards GreyWolf.

12 years ago by GreyWolf

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maybe not

er yes I have an A armature I have one of those in my Taycol, its the bit the commutator is attached too 😀

13 years ago by sgtbarnes

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One your post should be removed for Racist remarks, two as some one who has had an A class radio for 25 years and have been repairing and building radios for much longer I built my first vale single channel radio when still at school so that has killed most of your arguments, next taycol motors where JUNK , I have binned all of mine I want to go out and sail a boat and mine have not been bought on ebay but ones I have built over the years and all I am doing is the same as we did in the 60s and what YOU have done and that is as newer equipment became available we used it WHY are you using a Proportional radio as you can get lots of rep radio's on ebay to replace the one you lost also I like to sail with other people unlike you who likes to sail alone,( I wonder if that is by choice) and as for it wasn't unreliable then what years are you talking about because if you are talking about the time when ED radio's was the thing to have you had to have 3 sets one to use one to send back and one on its way back to you rep singletome was junk and most of the read sets where rubbish with IC I had a gannet in a veron huntsman with a brand new read set I thing I ran it half a dozen times then was put away .what a waist Sunday mornings where boring listening to the sound of people ripping there hands to bits with a leather boot lace trying to start a diesel engine, no a nice brushless in a huntsman performs better and you don't go home with your hands in ribbons. so it's OK for you to use proportional gear but we all have to stay in the stone age, and yes I rebuilt full sized cars and changed engines and most of the time doubled the BHP of them , My Midget was prob about 140 bhp of what fun it was. peter the boat murderer HOw about showing us some of your boats so we can see what we are doing wrong

13 years ago by Peter HS93

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You are not restoring an old model if you fill it with Chinky junk. An old IC engine can be throttled back to the speed of an electric OR you could use an old electric motor. All of which can be suppressed against radio interference. I am fortunate in that I have water around and don't have to sail with anybody else. I am not a people lover so that suits me perfectly. I do however have a mind to those who follow us on and what information we give them. I suppose you're the sort that would drop a Ford 16 valve in a Wolseley Hornet Special rather than get the old OHC 6 running right. The comparison is perfectly valid. If the old boats were properly restored with older gear by real enthusiasts they would never be skipped. What a preposterous idea! There is a massive market for old boats and old gear. You can't buy a Taycol cheaply any more so somebody is buying them (me and Keven, I reckon). There are plenty of people who have the knowledge and skill to make the old radio work. I don't have anything that old as my REP single channel was stolen, but I have early 70s proportional on 27 Meg and that all works perfectly. I have every right to use it. Only being English it gives me greater pride and pleasure in use than any cheap and nasty Chinese junk which has a very rapidly increasing bad name for being just as unreliable as you claim old stuff to be. if you have a for amateur radio, why can't you mend the older stuff so it isn't unreliable? it wasn't unreliable then. There's no need why it should be now. If you know of any skip-headed old boats, let me know or send them to me or Keven! Martin

13 years ago by Westquay

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Have you a spectrum analyser ? was your question er yes I have an A armature radio and did a lot of alignment or equipment after building and as far as the the frequency counter next to a peg board all that shows is the centre of your signal and not the bleed over ether side, I have a stand alone unit but they can be bought that link to a pc and they are very good and comparatively cheap. I did 1/12 scale model cars at a national level at the time M series came out and I know what they looked like, I am now using 2.4gh I have a futaba FF9 with JetI moduals giving me two way communication and two Jr sets converted to 2.4 the problem is you need very expensive equipment to look at 2.4 ghz equipment anyway I do not want to start a row on this site as it is a friendly site where we discus things Peter

13 years ago by Peter HS93