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Mystery Boat

In the 1950s I went to the IoW on a which I think was called SS Princess Elizabeth. That was the only one I can remember and she sailed from Portsmouth to Ryde pier..

5 years ago by Salar

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Paddle Tug Iona - the hull

Thanks Chris... yeah independent paddle control is very useful for navigating into 'dock'. Your "Loch Ranza" looks pretty good too. These Graupner kits are hard to come by. I like s as a project, and picked up a part built 'city of Bath' from my local club. Hull & decks complete otherwise I have to build powertrain / superstructure. Planned in for later in the year.

5 years ago by Harvey Kitten

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PS Iona - misc fittings

Thanks for the compliments! it's been a good project, just adding the final touches a couple of days ago. One bonus about s is they don't usually take on water as the paddle shafts are above the water line👍

5 years ago by Harvey Kitten

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Mtronics W-tail marine mixer connections.

Thanks Doug, So right for the job, but so expensive, I am trying to use what I have or can get cheaply. As you know I am rubbish with electronics. This is for my latest aquisition, a vintage model with individual paddle motors and a rudder. The old system of a digimax 4 needs updating. How's the taycol coming on, my first big show is at Easter and I was hoping to include the Sea Commander. Cheers Colin.

5 years ago by Colin H

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PS Iona - paddles

I decided to build the paddles on my 3D printer, working off the plan rather than building in brass as this should be much quicker... should be! Feeling confident I designed ver 1 & printed it out... and scratched my head a lot to see how this was going to fit together. So ver 2 was much better and almost looked like it would work. Ver 3... same etc. Ver 4 👍 This would assemble looking like paddles. I decided against feathering paddles having talked to a few builders - it seemed more complicated, used slightly more battery power and in 1:36 scale would make little difference to performance. Having built one now I would probably make a few changes but it looks and performs ok. The assembled paddle is attached to a 4mm stainless steel drive shaft with brass bushes. I have recently added some pins to ensure they don't come loose on the lake.🤓

5 years ago by Harvey Kitten

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Chieftian build

hey everyone I hope you all had a great Christmas. Im just starting a new build and its the chieftian tug and I was wondering if anyone had any information about her or any where to get parts for her. Seems most model boat sites don't seem to have much to do with s. Cheers guys

5 years ago by gazza131420

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(Tug Boat) Loch Ranza

I bought an unfinished Graupner kit which was in a bit of a state and spent many happy hours making her look loved. The hull and paddle wheels were in an acceptable condition but the deck and superstructure left lots to be desired. The previous owner had purchased the motor which was 50.1 geared and pushes the boat along well all other bits including 'smoke' brass portholes and new superstructure added by myself. She was a delight to finish and looks an absolute dream on the water. (Motor: MFA 919D series) (8/10)

6 years ago by ChrisG

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For Sale

Hello Colin Good to hear from you again. I am not desperate to sell it and November is only about five weeks away ! I am just turned 80 and have had. a few Hospital visits myself so I can understand what you are saying ! I am still driving however and could bring it to you to see. Where would that be ? Just a thought ! I have a few boats which I sail at the Knightcote Club where I am a member and my better half says that I need to reduce my fleet somewhat ! So the has been put on the transfer list ! Keep in touch Regards Doug

6 years ago by Doug79

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For Sale

Remote Control wooden and fibreglass scratch built Dart Belle for sale. 85cm long, 27cm wide, built to an excellent standard. With purpose built carrying box.

6 years ago by Doug79

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For Sale

Thanks Doug, I am very interested in purchasing your boat, but can't get to collect it till early November as I can't drive at present, going into hospital for new knee and the surgeon said I should be able to drive again 1st week of November. But please don't wait for me if you need to sell before then. Cheers Colin.

6 years ago by Colin H

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For Sale

Hi Colin Thank you for your inquiry. I live in Kenilworth, Warwickshire, I am looking for £200 o.n.o It is a great model. You would need your own receiver and transmitter. The other parts are all there but would need checking over before sailing.

6 years ago by Doug79

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For Sale

Super looking model, where are you and how much. Cheers Colin.

6 years ago by Colin H

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Steam Boats

Lovely workmanship on all the steamers.Enjoyed watching the video.Nice area to float your boats.Especially like the .

6 years ago by Donnieboy

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JANE

Duncan steaming his live steam Chart Steam Toys at Landacre Bridge Devon

6 years ago by lesliebreame

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boiler

I already have two s. Glen Usk @ 5ft & Duke of Devonshire @ 6ft. That’s why Totnes Castle is only 2ft-6ins. Sorry you may have to wait, as 2 steam & 3 sail need maintenance. I intend to replcacat the saloons, that is why the engine room is as similar to prototype as practical. Boiler just the flue that’s wrong. The engine & drive not correct at all, just taking the same space. Thanks for you interest.

6 years ago by hammer

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Mantua Mississippi

this very impressive model Mantua Mississippi River Model Boat 1:50 Large Scale for sale on ebay. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mantua-Mississippi-Paddle-Steamer-River-Model-Boat-1-50-Large-Scale/282916778588?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

6 years ago by BigAlio

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After Deck / Hatch - If at first you don't succeed ...

Morning Doug , has come to a bit of a standstill at the moment ,lots of little fiddley bits to do but fingers are like sausages just now ,had terrible problems with the hull taking a real twist after some of the planking just springing off will take some pictures and put them in the blog . Cheers Marky👍

6 years ago by marky

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The Lone Ranger Rides Again or Hull Finishing ;-))

Thanks for that Doug,if I cant get it here I will get my local car paint supplier to mix a bit for me ,pictures of the puffer soon,and with any luck the is nearing completion .Cheers Marky

6 years ago by marky

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Free assorted plans

Assorted plans here and some cad dwg format drawings. From s to fast motor boats http://www./boottekeningen/

7 years ago by none

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paddle tug Aid

Hi Colin ,the book is Famous s by F.C.Hambleton sorry there is no ISBN number as its an old library book ans it has a sticker where the number is, if you search Abebooks uk it takes you to a page click on second hand books this gives a search panel enter the book title and auther and it will take you right to it ,they had 4copies when i looked this morning .Happy hunting Marky

7 years ago by marky

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copper boiler

Parts for my new boiler project which is to be coal fired and is a practice tig welding exercise for further work [ Gordons Clyde Puffer ] . Its mostly 1/8 material so will need plenty of amps although i am using Helium which will make it somewhat easier. The boiler will probably be going in a like the Medway Queen but we shall see later. I have so many projects on the go at once that it might be some time !! Les Breame

7 years ago by lesliebreame

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TANWEN

Nice little . I'd like to see a skipper in it .. would finish it off nicely.

7 years ago by sandkb

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TANWEN

Tony Birds TANWEN at Tilford this year. Les Breame

7 years ago by lesliebreame

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Jane

One of my Old Trafford s enhanced by my mate Duncan Laurimer and sailing on the put up pond at Tilford Rural Life Centre yesterday. Good fun was had by all !! The boiler is tablet fired [3 halves ] and is half filled with 65ml of water. Engine is single oscillator with 16:1 spur gearbox. Les Breame

7 years ago by lesliebreame

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Ketch Irene

Yes in all cases, scratch every thing, paint & glue is all I buy. The motor out of a R.C. car installed because new pond has trees hanging over more than half the bank. All my other sail boats are sail only, impossible to sail in these conditions. Two steam driven s also. All scratch harbour.

7 years ago by hammer

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Sussex

This is a scratch built 1828 . A steam assisted schooner rig paddler. Pioneer of ocean steam Scale 1:60 Actual size of deck, 165 feet. The crest on the side represents the following. Martello Tower - Bexhill-on-sea Seahorses - Eastbourne Saxon Crown - East-Sussex. Ships of the same class 1821 James Watt 1825 Calpe 1832 Rhadamanthurs 1836 Unicorn 1837 Sirius The boat was built by Peter Allday some 20-plus years ago

7 years ago by tonyp

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PS. Waverley

Very nice it has scaled speed, and also crabs to port and starboard which I've seen in real life. Thanks for sharing your video.

7 years ago by figtree7nts

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PS Waverley

Did you ever get your ? I have a Graupner Glasgow ready you run £180

8 years ago by dwedge26

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Gorila resin glue

Thanks for that, have had a look and this appears to be a ready built wood display model with brass propellers ( on a ? ) I was wondering if it could be converted into a r/c sailing model but noticed the size is only 31 inches and I'm looking for something about 1.48 th scale making the hull about 62 inches. Many thanks for your help Peter

8 years ago by Peter501

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Graupner Glasgow paddle tug - paddle rotation speed?

Hi, according to my experience (the last time with model Lulonga River steamboat) I would recommend a geared motors with the maximum speed of around 150 rpm for Graupner paddle wheels Ø 140 mm. I use a simple external V Tail mixer - throttle for speed, and mix ailerons for ESC. I can so with a single stick to control both speed and direction. The rudder for my Lulonga model is inapplicable , as to classical the steamer ,the rudder will surely have better efficacy. On my first live steamer Ned Kelly(australian type, wheels mounted on a common fixed axis), I had only controlled the rudder, the model was quite handy;rudder but was somewhat larger.On a boating exam, I used substitute wheel from plywood (graupner wheels I got up later).The model was 115 cm long (o.a) Wishing success Tom

8 years ago by tomarack

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Completion.

Fire cement sold under the name of KOS obtainable in any builders merchant, or DIY store. The hinges used on doors to companion ways, lifting rails & doors in the bulwark's, on my s Glen Usk & Duke of Devonshire. Some are cut long for a better fixing.

8 years ago by hammer

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RC model Lulonga D

RC model Lulonga , control with V-tail mixer (1.channel -Ailerons and 3.channnel - Throttle) with only one stick (thr) Model of quarterwheeler Lulonga.Smilar ships sailed along African rivers, were built in the UK, France and Germany.Usually they used to be smaller s with a little draught.

9 years ago by tomarack

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PS Waverley

Peter did you contact Waverley Models? There isn't much shown on the web site. You could phone I am sure he will be of some help. I see you have found "paddleducks" if you go forum, construction, then Duke of Devonshire, you can see how I built one of my two s. The other being the Glen Usk. Both built from photographs.

9 years ago by hammer

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PS Waverley

Check out the "Clyde Model Boats" website. He does a hull and paddle wheels to match plus a plan. Looks as though he is developing a semi-kit which would presumably include the materials required but I have no idea how long it might be before that becomes available - http://www.clydemodelboats.co.uk/userimages/Paddle-Steamer-Hulls-and-Plans%283002434%29.htm paddle wheel kits - http://www.clydemodelboats.co.uk/userimages/Paddle-wheel-kits%282995226%29.htm development - http://www.clydemodelboats.co.uk/Waverley-II-kit-development%283000448%29.htm

9 years ago by jgs43

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PS Waverley

Thanks again for the links have has a good look and appear to be a good site for s but unfortunately not for the illusive Waverley , but will keep looking any links you may come across please pass them on I will be very grateful . Peter

9 years ago by Peter501

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PS Waverley

HI Peter 501 Have you had any luck with your quest for the Waverley as yet ?, My son and I are going to the pond on Sunday it is the end of season sail, I will make enquiries with those in attendance, to see if any one has one they no longer use or point me in the direction of one Felix

9 years ago by felix

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hinges

I needed to repair a hinge on the door to the on off switch on me . I can't remember if I posted making the originals. Someone may find my method useful. A square of brass about 1mm thick or less. I got mine by flattening a .5inch tube from the model shop. A small brass tube into which a pin will just fit, cut off piece longer than the square, this is so the solder will not go into the tube. Hold it together as in photo & silver solder. If soft solder is used it can melt when grinding the knuckles. The knuckles are cut with a dremel cutting disc in the lathe. the flap of the hinge squeezed between 2 bitts of scrap.

9 years ago by hammer

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Paddle wheeler lists

Hi, I recomend repeatedly to put your question to paddleducks.There you could certainly find modelers, who have experience with models paddlesteamers and can help with your problem. My model Lulonga has two independently driven wheel, each has its own ESC. Driving is a double ... classic rudder control but especially ESC ..drive back and forth is controlled via Throttle position on transmitter, using a Y cable. This allows the trimmer to adjust the speed .. optimally 90-150 rpm. Adjusting the speed of motors to the same value terms set by a trimmer on the transmitter. Own control direction is a mix throttle with "ailerons" channel (1 and 3). This allows you to change the speed of each wheel independently on Throttle position and thereby control the direction of navigation. . it is even possible to change the sense of rotation, so that the wheel rotates against each other. This ship turns almost on the spot. A wheel diameter of my Lulonga is 150 mm. A similar problem like yours, I did not met personally. next ..and perhaps your main problem may be that you can not mechanically practically ensuring that each wheel had the same number of turns .. Each motor has the same input voltage slightly different speeds .. and without trim it is Impossible to adjust. Additionally .. the question is the size of the model. As regard to speed of paddle wheels (rpm) I think it is practically negligible, if any blade touches the water before the blade wheel on the opposite side of the model.... maybe you need a proper trim then. Paddle wheel drive model has its own specific problems. The main problem is, that the model has a closed paddlebox . it happens that the water, instead of being driven backward, is suctioned into paddlebox ,rotates similarly as in the pump , and model practically do not move. Help .. proper area of holes in the paddlebox side panels (at least). Lulonga has louvers fixed at the back of paddlebox . My first paddleboat was australian type steamer Ned Kelly(live steam propulsion 115 cm long hull, hull breadth about 20 cm without paddleboxes). Her superstructure was too high and and a relatively small breadth of the hull caused great instability while sailing - the breadth recommended at least 25 cm. When I removed the superstructure, Improved stability, then model sailed with straight keel very exemplary. had the wheel of simple construction made of plywood, very effective .. though not as nice as yours at your model. I have model ,at present , quarterwheeler Lulonga(see gallery, the long article about model building you can find at Paddleducks) . She has also the paddlewheels of my homemade construction, nevertheless very heavy. Her stern sits very deep in the water The model is about 75 cm long, but due to the structure and shape of the hull would be good if and its length was at least 85 cm. I have a problem lengthwise balancing model. Tom

9 years ago by tomarack

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Paddle wheeler lists

Hi, I believe, plenty of interesting questions and answers about paddle boats you can find at > www.paddleducks.co.uk < forum specifically for modellers and models of s of all sizes and types Tom

9 years ago by tomarack

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Hull progress

HI My name is Paul Raymond and I have a live steam tug at the moment (Maxwell Hemmings 2 cyl) I enjoy the live steam aspect and have doing RC (all disciplines) for a long time. I am also interested in live steam s and would like to get a MississippI river boat stern wheeler at some time. give us a call some time and swap stories etc. 😊

9 years ago by f1blackcat

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plating

In the first pic the evostik is spread on the hull. Pic2 the plate is positioned & strips of tape stuck to one edge. Pic3 the tape acting as a hinge, the plate is lifted. I then repeat with as many plates as I can as the evo dries. Only then is the plate laid down, the tape ensures the correct position. Evo is Impact adhesive so gently tap with a small hammer. Pic4 shows it is possible to do a cruiser stern, but it is tricky. The hull was flush riveted, so none shown. Method for embossing rivets next post.

9 years ago by hammer

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Mast Lighting

Very good. Another method is to cut the dowel in half, and do the same. then glue it back together. On my I used the stays as the supply.

9 years ago by hammer

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Sirius

Sirius was the first vessel to cross the Atlantic under steam power for the entire journey in 1847. The model is scratch built almost entirely from wood with an plank on frame hull. She is powered by two geared electric motors on paddles. She is radio controlled by 40 Mhz Radio. The plan was very basic as you can see from photo, but there is a model in the Liverpool Maritime museum which I was able to photograph and copy. When completed she was purchased from me by the Beale Park, Child of Beale Trust in Reading and is still on display at that site.

10 years ago by MAXTON

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(Working Vessel) EMPRESS QUEEN I.O.M.

SCRATCH BUILT USING A MODIFIED FIBREGLASS HULL FROM THE ORIGINAL DRAWINGS FROM GLASGOW UNIVERSITY ARCHIVES. THE MODEL WAS NEARLY 7 FEET LONG WITH AN OVERALL BEAM OF 14 INCHES. (Motor: WURLITZER) (ESC: METRONICS VIPERS) (10/10)

10 years ago by MAXTON

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SS (RMS) Empress Queen

SS (RMS) Empress Queen was a steel , which was the last of its type ordered by the isle of Man Steam Packet Company She was chartered by the Admiralty in 1915 and used for trooping duties until she ran aground off Bembridge, isle of Wight, England, and was subsequently abandoned. The model was scratch built on a modified fibreglass hull. The plans were obtained from Glasgow University and the model was nearly 7ft long with an overall beam including paddles of about 14 inches. She was independently powered with two geared motors from Wulitzer juke box components. I hope to do a build blog in the near future. She was purchased from me by the Beale Park, part of the Child Beale Trust Reading.

10 years ago by MAXTON

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Paddleducks

Among the boats I have built are 2 s, still working on a third. When building these I found the Paddleducks web site dedicated to s very useful. Sadly this site Is In danger of closing, various reasons quoted. First the gentleman running It has personal reasons. Secondly a lack of posts, being restricted to one type of boat there Is only so much that can be said. So please continue diversifying away from just fire boats, & hopefully Increase posts. If P.D. site did close It would be nice to see It here, If possible.

10 years ago by hammer

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(Working Vessel) Claughton Mersey Ferry

The Claughton was a Mersey Ferry from late 1800 and Queen Victoria had a journey on her. She was a double ended ferry. She is total scratch built, no plans just from drawings and photos and reference to museum models. The model was very heavy and carted about on a motorized golf trolley; which she is on in the photo. The model had a 12" beam, but handled quite well as both paddles were independent drive, using two Wurlitzer juke box carousel motors which had an integral gearbox giving a rotation of approx. 100 rpm. (Motor: Wurlitzer carousel ) (ESC: vipers) (9/10)

10 years ago by MAXTON

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(Pleasure Craft) Lady Langbury

Near Scale Edwardian type Hence no response in 'Propeller Type' or 'Size' (Motor: Heng Long 1/16th Tank) (ESC: Mtronics) (8/10)

10 years ago by chrislang

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Cariad Sailing after refit

Paignton, in Yongs Park only in the winter as there is a concession for motor boats in the summer. The Exeter club's new pond is almost surrounded by trees over hanging the water, no good at all for boats with no motor. This summer I am going to try the river Teign (salt water tidal). I will have to loan a friends 16ft boat incase things go wrong and the model goes out to sea. Thinking about things, your motor although low down will give your boat a higher C of G to mine. My ballast is chips of sheet lead mixed with cement, spread along the bottom. I must confess I sold Spray on Ebay £250. Was the only fiberglass hull I had. Needed the room. I still have a Sailing trawler,4ft pilot cutter cutter 4ft, Topsail schooner 3ft, all plus bowsprit, & 2 s 5ft & 6ft both steam. Only the schooner has a drop keel. 🔨

10 years ago by hammer

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Kit

AH now I recognize the boat well done for choosing & paddler.

10 years ago by hammer