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Precedent Fairey Huntsman
I have for sale an unfinished Fairey Huntsman 31, I started it approx 9 months ago as a project with my grandson but his attention has now turned to model railways, subsequently I have now lost interest in completing and sailing it, the boat is approx 90% complete and comes with new RC equipment battery motor etc, I am looking for ยฃ250 just to recoup the costs and to put to his new model railway. I live inStoke-on-Trent if anybody would like to have a look,
5 years ago by bthart
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Friday's Child Fairey Huntsman 31
Hi Brianaro, many thanks for that. i am about to go and check that out. As well as my old 70's wooden
precedent huntsman
, I also have an MFA Spearfish still in the box not touched yet. I had one back in the 80's with an Irvine 61 in it and it was a great fun boat. I did plan to do the same again with it but with the constant banning of using IC engines on the ponds around area's in the UK I suppose it will end up brushless. I know they are if not faster then IC now but the cost battery wise, now being retired the funds aren't as easily found now. The sad part is I still have 2 new SC 91's, 1 new SC 61 and a Irvine 120 all still new, never been run. I think there might also be an Irvine 61 that has no box. As well as a Zenoah 26c all pimped up in purple only run in ready to be put in a boat. Shed full of both engines and boats, some boats still new in the boxes still waiting to be built. Hopefully I will get to build them before I pop me clogs.
5 years ago by BOATSHED
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Friday's Child Fairey Huntsman 31
I am a great fan of the Fairey Boats I have a
precedent huntsman
model and would love to see a couple or three pictures of a real life one. Last time I saw one was back in the early 1970's on it's way out of Newhaven harbour.
5 years ago by BOATSHED
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aeronaut classic
I am also upgrading the prop shaft, I have purchased a 4mm shaft to use that has a decent outer casing. All other boats I have built the side chine rails have all bee 1/4 x1/4 inch rails. I am just so disappointed with some of the substandard use of certain parts. I just feel for the price they are cutting costs to up their profits on the boat. I have built a few of the older AeroKits like the RAF crash tender, Sea commander, Sea Queen and Sea Hornet as well as the Precedent Fairey Huntsman, and these all have a substantial set of side rail to fit and even the bulk head pieces are a much better thickness of ply. I would just not recommend the Aeronuat kits to anyone myself now. I was just going to fit a standard Gruapner speed 400 motor in but still unsure. I was thinking maybe a brushless may just be a bit overpowering her. but as I say still unsure, I may put in a brushless yet who knows. Keep us informed on here as to you progress I am keen to see your finished model. I suspect yours will be finished well before mine as I have shelved the build for now. Happy modelling.
5 years ago by BOATSHED
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Fairly Hunsman renovation part 1
Hi
It's probably a Precedent hull.
Check out the model boats mag forum site.
They have a guru on the Huntsman !!
Dave Milbourne.
Canabus
6 years ago by canabus
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Always good to see a
precedent huntsman
, excellent boats and even better skipper. Enjoy sailing mine at the lake every Sunday or Wednesday... never fails to please. Happy boating.. from Dennis the Menace
6 years ago by DennisRobotham
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Too Powerful Brushless ?
Hi All
I am using Hobbyking 3639-1100 and 3648-1450kv motors
in that size boats(Sea Commander,
precedent huntsman
and SG&K Gentleman's Runabout).
60 Amp ESC with either 3 or 4S Lipo batteries.
Props 2 blade 40mm 1.4 or 1.6 pitch.
The motors are a straight change over and the only change to the ESC is the low voltage setting for the 3S and 4S batteries.
Canabus
6 years ago by canabus
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Are you going to let DENIS the Menace skipper your boat ? Don't let him damage.๐
6 years ago by BOATSHED
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Few fittings added and new battery ordered for the new year.
6 years ago by Novagsi0
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Hunstman 31 fittings kit for Christmas from Slec
Yes they do. Their model is tiny ,this is the precedent 31" huntsman. The fittings look the perfect scale. in my opinion there too big for their model.
6 years ago by Novagsi0
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huntsman 46
Hi Pilot
I have the
precedent huntsman
34" hull with the 3648-1450kv, 100 Amp car ESC, 2 blade 40mm 1.4 pitch CNC prop and at present only running on a 3S 5800mah Lipo.
I am still working on the cabin and that windscreen.
Installed the front, rear, toilet and kitchen windows and frames today.
The boat is very quick in the 35-40KPHour mark, so it's not slow.
Canabus
7 years ago by canabus
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huntsman 46
hi .thank you all for your help.i have built the boat to power setup stage the kit by the way is a
precedent huntsman
31 wooden i.will look at the hobby king site keen to get on with it
steve
7 years ago by pilot
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Motor problem
HI Richard
I drop my prop angle to 9 and 1/2 degrees on my
precedent huntsman
34" after removing the old IC motor.
Running a 35 mm brushless motor on 3S and it's very quick!!
More a speed motor than a motor cruiser.
Canabus
7 years ago by canabus
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Prop Shaft Angle
HI AndyG009
The steep angle was to get the diesel motors into the boat.
On my
precedent huntsman
I decreased the drive line angle both at the prop and motor ends.
The 35mm brushless motor was less diameter than the flywheel of the IC motor.
I can still fit a 45mm prop with 5mm clearance, but, using a 40mm 2 blade.
I quick test on Saturday and the boat has no problems with prop torque at full speed.
I made a little larger rudder, mainly a bit deeper.
Rudder control is very good.
Canabus
7 years ago by canabus
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It's looking great Novagsi0. I only hope mine looks half as good as yours when I finish it. Best wishes, Dave W ๐
7 years ago by rolfman2000
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Very nice, congrats to 'Mum' ๐๐
7 years ago by RNinMunich
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Hello all, been making great progress paint wise, and fitting out the huntsman. A popular DIY store paint came out the exact colour (Oxford Blue) I was look for. Radio control and motor mount nearly done just need to decide on the battery and wait for a nice day.
7 years ago by Novagsi0
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My 3S 4000mAh ~ 300 - 320gm.
2S Hardcase 4000mAh ~260gm.
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7 years ago by RNinMunich
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Hi
A 3s Lipo 5800mah is about the 450-500 gram weight.
Canabus
7 years ago by canabus
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Some good progress made the weekend with a paint brush and the motor mount started, some holes for the motor to breath and the end plate machining now required. Also some details added to the top whilst other items were drying.
7 years ago by Novagsi0
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Thanks for the detailed reply however I missed your post and had bit the bullet and ordered the 850 motor. I decided to get the lipo safe 50A ESC, and first impression it's a beast of a motor. Maybe phase 2 will be a brushless setup at a later stage. Im hoping a lipo pack will save enough weight to give it some of the offshore PB performance it details in the instructions. :-)
7 years ago by Novagsi0
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Hi
Great work MUM !!!
I moved over to brushless motors three years ago.
The power of these things are unbelievable.
I have a 46" Crash Tender which is getting a L5055C 700KV motor on a 4S 5800mah Lipo battery via 100Amp Hobbyking car ESC.
Prop 2 blade CNC 52mm 1.4 pitch.
No loaded RPM 10360 against the 850 at 9778 rpm.
NO water cooling on the motor and the car ESC has an electric fan, so at low speed you have no cooling problems.
The two motors are about the same size.
As for battery connectors I use XT60 which I think are better then the Deans.
The ESC's are very easy to setup with the program card.
I can post my settings which I use on all my boats.
I also have the smaller 34"
precedent huntsman
which I am restoring.
Canabus
7 years ago by canabus
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She's doing a great job๐๐
7 years ago by RNinMunich
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I had this boat, a kit at the age of around 10 and my dad and I started it. Following a couple of years the boat was nearly finished and for some strange reason the build stopped.
After collecting dust for more than 30 years and the sad passing away of my father, I decided to get the boat down and make a fresh start with the intention of finishing it this time.
My only dilemma is the choice of motor we initially decided some 30 years ago to run a 6V Hectaperm electric motor off its gear box direct drive, but this has since found its way into our 'Imara' Tug and is more than well suited.
I cannot decide either to use a Tornado 850 or a brushless motor, the pro and cons are immense.
As can be seen my mother use to paint all my dads boats, and she is now helping paint bits on this one, I insisted as traditional.
Hope to post regular and the finished results around 14 May next year my father's B-day.
Anyway any advice welcome.
7 years ago by Novagsi0
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Bit fuzzy ๐ค but I get the drift ๐
7 years ago by RNinMunich
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Hi All
Yes we all like pics and I also installed the rudder servo!!!
Canabus
7 years ago by canabus
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Sounds neat , but where are the before and after pics ?? ๐ค
7 years ago by RNinMunich
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Hi All
Repaired one of the broken cabin pieces under the aft side window and added strengthen timber forward and aft(windows).
The gap under the windows to the deck, I laid down two layers of masking tape and mixed up some Selley's Plasti-bond.
Pushed the cabin onto this and waited for it to harden.
Removed cabin, removed the masking tape, sand the areas and spray filler undercoated.
A nice clean gap!!!
Canabus
7 years ago by canabus
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Hi All
Drop her in the water today with a battery, motor, ESC to see where to place to battery.
Looks like the sits over the strut at this point.
Still a long way to go on this one.
Canabus
7 years ago by canabus
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Sea Queen refurbishment
Hi RNinMunich
I agree with you past, respect the past but move forward.
With a lot of areas of limit to IC motors we have to move to brushless motors and Lipo batteries.
I have changed over with the times and running brushless motors in my Aerokits Sea Hornet, Sea Commander and a
restoring a
precedent huntsman
.
These old boats can go as fast if not faster with the change over.
Canabus
7 years ago by canabus
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Hi Gents
I received my drive line last night and installed it and the motor mount, also added a wood block for the rudder.
Fibreglass it all it.
The prop is a 50mm with 4mm clearance, but, I run 40mm props on my boats this size.
Canabus
7 years ago by canabus
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VERNON River Police Launch
Hi Lads
I have a Sea Commander with a D3548-1100kv,3S Lipo,60Amp ESC and a 2 blade 40mm CNC prop.
I bought a
precedent huntsman
34" a few weeks ago and may be running a 3639-1100 or a 3648-1450 instead of the D3548 motor.
As for motor mounts the aluminium angle works well and I just epoxy glue it in place.
Canabus
7 years ago by canabus
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goth girls set it off?
7 years ago by vortex
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I like the
precedent huntsman
very much and I built one from the kit many years ago. it was the wooden hull version and it was quite fast with an MFA 850 Torpedo motor running on 12 volts. I sold it in 2004 and now I wish I hadnt. However I bought a 34 inch fibreglass hull this year at the Ellesmere Port show and I wondered if Precedent are still manufacturing kits as I have no plans for the superstructure.
Boaty๐
7 years ago by boaty
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Hi Colin
The ones I am using are 6 and 3/4".
The same size as the ones in the SG&K 1920 Runabout, but, they are wrestling figures!!!
Finally removed 90% of the blue paint from the cabin.
Canabus
7 years ago by canabus
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(Pleasure Craft)
precedent huntsman
34''
I bought it with a Merco 40/electric starter/radio as an unfinished boat.
Changing over the brushless electric. (Motor: 3648-1450kv) (ESC: Hobbyking 100A car) (5/10)
7 years ago by canabus
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Sorry to throw mud in your water, but if it's a huntsman it could be 28 , 31, or 32 ft the same applied to swordsman. But who care's as most of the kit form boats where 1/11th scale. My wife uses 1/12th scale figures from her dolls house days in her Huntsman.
7 years ago by Colin H
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Hi All
Adding a few more pics!!!
New driveline arrived this week.
Funny scale to build a boat at as the real one is 31 and1/2 foot
and this is 34", also the cockpit area is shorter and the rear cabin is longer.
Canabus
7 years ago by canabus
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Hi All
I bought this boat as a unfinished project with an used radio and Merco 40 motor.
Sold the motor with the new electric starter and started pulling the boat apart.
Removed all the old driveline etc.
Repaired the forward deck and removed the paint.
Stripping down the cabin to repaint, also removing cockpit floor and seats.
7 years ago by canabus
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Sea Queen refurbishment
Hi Guys
Looks like we have the same boats!!!
I have a Sea Hornet(built from the original plans), Crash Tender 48", Sea Commander and I bought a
precedent huntsman
31(fibreglass hull)with building instructions.
The instructions were sold as plans, but, with a lot of time with a photocopier they could be turn into plans.
Or scan into AutoCAD and resized!!!
My mate has a Swordsman which he finally finished after over 40 years(with plans).
All the boats are running brushless motors.
Canabus
7 years ago by canabus
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Sea Queen refurbishment
We need some pictures ?? Where did you get The Queen Dipped. I take it that's what you have had done. I have a Sea Queen and got her from a boot sale about 6 years ago.Still haven't started work on her. I have a few Aerokits,
Sea Hornet, I made back in the 70's.
Crash Tender, 48"
Sea Commander, also from a boot fair
Crash Tender 34" still in box unmade, 1994 when 50 were made on the 50th anniversary of the Aerokit model. When I saw it advertised in Model Boats grabbed one very quickly. Also have a
precedent huntsman
31. Purchased that about 25 years ago. Had a 850 electric motor in her. Got a bit of a leak in the hull that's now sorted but she also needs a refurb now. As well as a
precedent huntsman
hull with no cabin top, going to make a top of some kind but different to the original. Hopefully will get round to them all one day. Plus quite a few other model boats.
7 years ago by BOATSHED
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The electrics, drive & radio
Hi Robbob
I see you have a Turnigy motor is your boat with what type of prop?
At present I have a 3648-1450kv with a 40 mm 2 blade prop.
I have not ran the boat as so, but I think it will work.
I received my planned motor is week a Turnigy L5055c-700kv-1600watts and a 52mm 2 blade prop.
I have two 4S 5800mah batteries ready for my boat.
The other motor as of today is moving into a
precedent huntsman
34 which I won on line.
7 years ago by canabus
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Richards 48'' Swordsman
Richard - good to see you giving the old girl a new lease of life. I agree that it looks like a
precedent huntsman
31 with the model being 46.5 inches long.
I have one as well.
There are differences in hull design between the various full size models which would be difficult to differentiate between in the models but none of the Swordsman have a full height rear cabin, only partial height and no windows.
The Super Swordsman does have a full height rear cabin, like the Huntsman, but the SS has much longer air vents/cowls on the sides. I have never seen a kit or plans for the SS.
I'm actually going to start building a Swordsman 33 soon and am in the process of drawing up the plans.
Chris
7 years ago by ChrisF
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Richards 48'' Swordsman
Ok, i accecpt it is very probably a Precedent 46" Huntsman.๐
guess i had best get the saw out and cut the rotten wood out.
7 years ago by rmwall107
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(Pleasure Craft)
precedent huntsman
31
Christmas present in 2009 taken a long time to put together.Good fibreglass moulding but poor quality light plywood.
Have upgraded final look using photos from net based on actual boat 100% Proof.
Should launch this summer 2016.
Well launch date came and went no I finally got around to joining the Stevenage Model Boat Club in May 2017 before the boat finally got wet. With the power train setup listed above the huntsman perfoms remarkably well. Having done much internet research and downloaded many photographs I concluded that the superstructure on the kit was set too far back and it was duly moved forward to create a more balanced look.
I had great difficulty finding suitable fenders so whilst on a family trip to Wales I coerced my nephew at Swallow Boats to design and 3D print some for me these are now installed pictures to follow (Motor: AQUASTAR 3974 2200kv) (ESC: AQUASTAR 120) (8/10)
8 years ago by Rex3644
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precedent huntsman
461/2 Inch
HI Glyn
The stuff I use is from easycomposites.co.uk, great web site with vidio help etc, the glass cloth and the epoxy is all on there, if your in stoke pick it up or they send it.
Regards
Mark
9 years ago by jarvo
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precedent huntsman
461/2 Inch
I am In the process of building and have managed Ok until I got to the stern. I cannot see the stern part bending to the extreme angles of the hull. If anyone has experience of this their help would be more than welcome
9 years ago by restin
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precedent huntsman
461/2 Inch
HI Mark,
Hope you enjoyed your break. The boat was great this Sunday, planed nicely and was very responsive to the controls. The crack is minor, where the skins meet on the keel, not deep and the joins behind the crack are robustly glued, with resin brushed over top.
When you say use epoxy, is that epoxy resin, or is there an epoxy varnish?
Regards Glyn
9 years ago by restin
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precedent huntsman
461/2 Inch
HI Glyn
Sorry for slow reply, just back from weekend away.
Covering the hull in a nylon stocking is great, put on with epoxy, flat the paint before you apply.
You say there is a hairline crack, is it deep??? could it be the hull moving after a shunt like with a pond wall etc????
Would sugest light weight glass cloth and epoxy, much stronger and more able to bridge the crack
Mark
9 years ago by jarvo
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precedent huntsman
461/2 Inch
HI Mark,
Does your method of covering hull with nylon and varnish work on Painted surface (IE acrylic paint)? I found a hairline crack running down the bow, although it does not leak into boat I would feel better if it was Sealed over.
Regards Glyn
9 years ago by restin