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Hi sorry not getting back to you have been away, will get a photo soon. Thanks

5 years ago by Kevin-56

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Mtronics W-tail marine mixer connections.

Thanks Doug, So right for the job, but so expensive, I am trying to use what I have or can get cheaply. As you know I am rubbish with electronics. This is for my latest aquisition, a vintage model paddle Steamer with individual paddle motors and a rudder. The old system of a digimax 4 needs updating. How's the taycol coming on, my first big show is at Easter and I was hoping to include the . Cheers Colin.

5 years ago by Colin H

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1950s refurb.

Good to see an early being restored. My first experience of seeing a was in early 1961 when I was eight years old. I was in Coronation Park in Crosby just outside Liverpool and dad got talking to the owner who said he had been a radar technician in WW2 and he built the radio control himself. The motor of course being a Taycol. Many years later I restored two s and still have one of them which I sail quite often. Well done Aerokits. Boaty😎

5 years ago by boaty

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1950s refurb.

This old was built by my dad in the mid 50's. With the help of the wife, we have started to repair and rebuild, the wife stripped it down. Doug (RNmunich) is rebuilding my taycol supermarine ready to fit into it. So far we have relaminated some of the hull boards and cabin sides. Sealed some of the sprung joints with 2 pack epoxy. Once that's had 48 hours hardening time I will rub down and coat the hull in glass cloth and Eze-Kote. I have 1 problem, the main cabin roof is missing and I don't have any plans to remake, so if anyone can help me please let me know. Thanks for reading, watch for updates in the coming weeks. Cheers Colin.

5 years ago by Colin H

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1950s refurb.

One thing I have done which takes a bit of effort is to use card to make an approximate frame/ bulkhead as near as you can. Then trim and try until it fits as it should then trace onto wood of choice. Cut that out marginally oversize and sand/plane to fit and once happy glue in place. You should be able to work it out from the plans. Cut two sets and keep one for future reference.👍😤

5 years ago by onetenor

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1950s refurb.

".....Thanks for all your comments and input. What i really need now is a copy of the templates sheet so that i can cut some new parts to replace some of the missing ones ....." There was never a 'templates sheet', of course. There were just the original kit parts. This is a fundamental problem with trying to 'save' old model boat plans. The aircraft plans usually have all parts described precisely. Many - possibly most - boat kits are essentially sets of parts with assembly instructions. So, if you need to reproduce an old kit, you need to include part templates as well. Which means a lot of work for someone. Not only do you have to obtain an example of the original kit, measure it up and draw it using a CAD package, but you also have to allow for the fact that wood changes, and that die-cut parts may be cut badly, and so what you have measured may need correcting - sometimes quite extensively. Here's a classic example - the old Yeoman MINX, with templates drawn up...

5 years ago by DodgyGeezer

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1950s refurb.

Thanks for all your comments and input. What i really need now is a copy of the templates sheet so that i can cut some new parts to replace some of the missing ones . I have ordered a new rudder, and new plexi glass for the windows. Already in hand is an Mtronics Viper marine 25 amp ESC. 12 volt 7ah battery, Futaba 27 or 40 Mhz RX. Futaba servo. Just awaiting the motor from Doug (RN in Munich). We are going to repaint the Hull in White, Cabin sides in Dark Blue, Cabin roofs in White. The decks will be left as my dad made them, just cleaned and a fresh coat of varnish. the inside of the hull is well sealed already with bitumen (original) which is still allright. Next stage start rubbing down the hull ready for the glass cloth and Ezekote resin. at least i can do this indoors in the warm, workshop too d*** cold. Thats all for today shipmates, more to come, Cheers Colin.

5 years ago by Colin H

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1950s refurb.

".......If you have a computer, they usually come with some basic drawing tools like "Paint" or use paint.net.... Take the image and open with Paint, then just use the rectangular select tool to pick what you want to enlarge. Then just crop it and you have a nice separate image to save........" The fully-featured Open Source image processing package is called 'The Gimp'. You can download it for free, and it enables you to perform any image manipulation process you like - matching professional packages like Photoshop. I use it to create full drawings of vintage model boat plans which are often sent to me as a set of partial A4-sized scans. These can easily be re-sized, rotated, matched up and stitched together to make a full-sized drawing. For example, look at any of the Stirling plans on my Old Boats website: http://oldboats.tk/Sterling1.html

5 years ago by DodgyGeezer

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1950s refurb.

Thanks Joe. I will have to use local print shop as I don't have a printer at present. I do remember how to do it myself, I have various drawing packages, from when I was working. I'm only 69 so still learning. Cheers Colin.

5 years ago by Colin H

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1950s refurb.

Collin, What a great project... I have recently been taking small images and blowing them up by selecting smaller areas, say the cabin roof only, then printing that on A4. Usually these files have high enough resolution to make some very readable files. if you have a computer, they usually come with some basic drawing tools like "Paint" or use paint.net.... Take the image and open with Paint, then just use the rectangular select tool to pick what you want to enlarge. Then just crop it and you have a nice separate image to save. Be sure you save under a different name so as not to loose the original file. I may be giving you information that you already know, don't mean to insult.. See my photo of some I did last night, pasted about six together to see the 1M boat sections. These are rough as they come from an image only 16cm wide, but good enough for me to build from given some drafting. Good luck with the build, I will be watching. Joe

5 years ago by Joe727

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1950s refurb.

Brill Colin I helped Marg with her presentation cakes but owt else I was on my own.😤👍

5 years ago by onetenor

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1950s refurb.

Hi original plans are sold on Ebay on model boats page cheers Ian

5 years ago by TOWN3810

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1950s refurb.

Thanks Canabus, I'll see if I can get it blown up, it is a bit hard to read on A4 printout. But at least I can see what it should look like. The good lady says thanks as well, we share all our hobbies, fishing, photography, modelling., only one I can't get into is gardening. She even helps with the car repairs and servicing. Think on ladies your missing out. 👍 Cheers Colin.

5 years ago by Colin H

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1950s refurb.

Plans as required from down under !!! Canabus Hobart Tasmania South of Australia !!!

5 years ago by canabus

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1950s refurb.

I had one f these with a diesel in it .Great model and it looks like yours will be too. Good luck with it and I'll follow with interest. Wish my wife had joined me in the hobbies but she just called my models toys.👍

5 years ago by onetenor

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unnamed

If she is the 34" model then she's the , 46" is the Sea Queen. I have got both, picked them up from boot fairs, at least 4+ years ago, and sadly still awaiting refurb. I also have a 46" Crash Tender still waiting the same. As well as a 34" crash Tender I bought back in 1994 as a 50 years anniversary kit and a 46" I got at wings and wheels about 3 years ago both in boxes waiting a full build from new. I have also still got my early 1970's Sea Hornet that also needs a refurb. Amongst other new and second hand models to get sorted out. I always say one day I will get round to it.

5 years ago by BOATSHED

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(Pleasure Craft) sea queen / commander

just picked this one up needs work but will sit here for a few weeks / months / years who knows (5/10)

5 years ago by jacko

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Sea Queen Frames

Hi my plans for sea queen and purchased from the same guy 5 years ago were perfect in every way Ps i also use Biro for pretend deck planking Cheers Ian t

5 years ago by TOWN3810

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aeronaut classic

I am also upgrading the prop shaft, I have purchased a 4mm shaft to use that has a decent outer casing. All other boats I have built the side chine rails have all bee 1/4 x1/4 inch rails. I am just so disappointed with some of the substandard use of certain parts. I just feel for the price they are cutting costs to up their profits on the boat. I have built a few of the older AeroKits like the RAF crash tender, , Sea Queen and Sea Hornet as well as the Precedent Fairey Huntsman, and these all have a substantial set of side rail to fit and even the bulk head pieces are a much better thickness of ply. I would just not recommend the Aeronuat kits to anyone myself now. I was just going to fit a standard Gruapner speed 400 motor in but still unsure. I was thinking maybe a brushless may just be a bit overpowering her. but as I say still unsure, I may put in a brushless yet who knows. Keep us informed on here as to you progress I am keen to see your finished model. I suspect yours will be finished well before mine as I have shelved the build for now. Happy modelling.

5 years ago by BOATSHED

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Sea Queen Frames

I also bought a copy of the plans while I was there

5 years ago by donrecardo

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New knee, outdoor trials begin.

Hi fellow boaters, tomorrow is the day I have the staples out on my new knee. And starting Monday at knee clinic, so far so good, movement is good enough to allow me to walk with my crutches, most of the post operation swelling is gone now, a bit of bruising still, only a few painful reminders when I try to stretch or bend it. But should be back modelling very soon. Looking forward to getting my dad's old ready for the taycol supermarine being restored by Doug in Munich. Well that's all for now folk's, Cheers Colin.

5 years ago by Colin H

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New knee, outdoor trials begin.

Hi Colin, That sounds great! push forward! I look forward to seeing. The post of your dad's . Up and running! Cheers, Ed

5 years ago by figtree7nts

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A return to the hobby!

Making slow progress on the hull as time permits; funny that after more than 30 years you somehow remember things you thought you had long forgotten! Lots of fun though.....

6 years ago by J Barry

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Veron Vosper F.P.B. 52''

The Veron F.P.B does appear to be a very rare model and I feel £300 would be a reasonable price especially when you take into consideration how much a modern day manufacturer would want. Just look at prices for Deans Marine models, mainly their Vosper M.T.B. which is a lot smaller. Also Veron kits seem to have been overlooked and the only model that is easy to obtain is the Slec version of their 26inch River Police Launch. Phil Smith was a great designer of boats and aircraft . I sold my Veron RTTL in the mid 1990s and my fleet today consists of one original , one 34 inch Crash Tender , both of which I restored, an italeri PT109 and two RTR fast electrics. TOP TIP for anyone who buys your F.T.B- trace around the parts and use them to build the model while keeping the kit intact. I do this with my Keil Kraft control line aeroplanes. B😁😎oaty

6 years ago by boaty

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Taycol Supemarine Resurrection

No reason why not so far😉 You'll have to get your trousers altered though 😁😁 Will start on your converter board at the weekend so get on with your ASAP! All the best, Doug 😎

6 years ago by RNinMunich

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Taycol Supemarine Resurrection

Well Doug, have been to Ludlow today and saw a Sea Queen on the River, it was powered by a Supermarine, driving a 50mm x 50mm brass prop. Power supply was 12v 7ah sla using a 30 amp. esc. it looked fantastic on the water, even against the current it was moving ahead with full power. if my goes that well I'll be as happy as a dog with 2 tails. Cheers Colin.

6 years ago by Colin H

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Taycol Supemarine Resurrection

Hi Colin, re your post in the scale speed thread- "I've got spare Viper marine 25 amp. So hopefully that will do. Also would you recommend a reduction box to give a fair scale speed as I don't want to overwork the motor." The Viper will be fine, I'll probably be using a little Viper Marine 10 on my Taycol Target in the fish cutter. Re gearbox: I doubt one is necessary. I would try to adjust the top speed more with the prop, mainly the pitch probably. The Supermarine is not particularly hi-revving, 4000 or so off load? if you reduce that your may behave more like a tug I suspect If you do decide to go that way PLEASE don't ask me to make it😁, I'm having enough trouble with the 1to1 gearing for my fish cutter😲 Good luck with bathroom and OP. Fingers crossed for you that the works DO start in 6 weeks (the bathroom I mean!) 😉 Cheers, Doug 😎

6 years ago by RNinMunich

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motor sizeing

Hi Jim I used a Hobbyking D3548/4 1100kv , a car ESC (hk60A-SL)(electric fan on top for cooling), program card(HK PROG-CARD) and a 40mm 2blade prop(test out the one on the boat first). Battery a 3s 5800mah 30C Lipo. This is in my and gives a good turn of speed with a long run time. ESC set up:- 1 Cutoff Voltage for 3S=10.2 and 4S=13.6 2 Start Power Percent=5% 3 Advance Timing=4 4 Run Mode=2 5 Brake Force=1 6 Drag Brake Force=1 7 Neutral Range=1 8 initial Brake Force=1 9 Reverse Force=1 Canabus

6 years ago by canabus

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Taycol supermarine, to which prop.

As I intend to fit my supermarine, after Doug has finished his magic, into a vintage Aerokits , what prop would be best, if I am using a 12v 7ah sla battery. I have available 2.5 inch 4 blade brass prop, 2 inch 3 blade brass, and various plastic 2 or 3 bade, in 30-35-40&45mm. Which would be the correct one to use. Any thoughts would be much appreciated, cheers Colin.

6 years ago by Colin H

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EarlyVosper M.T.B by Simplas

Hi Onetenor Fuji 15 was a good glow engine which I don't think it is manufactured any more. Aero version max B.H.P was just below .40 when tested. if it was in a model aircraft it would have been around .20 to .25 depending on prop size which was good then for a small capacity glowplug . Marine versions when on the water put out a little less and the water cooled jacket was never as efficient as the finned cylinder jacket of the aero version. My two Aerokits boats, the and the Crash Tender are powered by single Speed 600 motors running on either 8.4 or 9.6 volt Ni Mh batteries. Performance is equal to that of marine diesel power such as the 2.46 Ed Racer and D.C 2.46 Rapier, the latter I used to watch in the fast steering events in the early 1960s at Fleetwood and Coronation Park in Crosby just outside Liverpool. Taycol powered versions would be obviously slower due to the additional weight were far more reliable and you did not have to put up with injuries from excessive use of a starting cord with kids watching and "extracting the urine" shouting "why wont it go mister". Boaty

6 years ago by boaty

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Taycol Supemarine Resurrection

Wholeheartedly agree Boaty, my fleet is made up of vintage boats which I love reviving, most of them were donated to me over the last 4 years my wife and I both enjoy sailing our boats and trying to encourage younger folk to try it. I have no problem turning over control of my 50 plus year old boats to total beginners of any age, the youngest so far is my grandson who started on his 3rd birthday with a small rc boat I bought him. Now at 4 he's getting quite good and learning learning manoeuvring with my large tug Valiant which is just over 4ft and pushing 60yrs old. I have never been tired of those that are willing to learn and have a go. BTW The supermarine is mine and I am going to be installing it into my father's old built in 1957. Originally had a diesel, but the taycol is the ideal replacement. And with Doug doing the rebuild on it I will be able to use it with my modern rc system. Cheers Colin.

6 years ago by Colin H

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Taycol Supemarine Resurrection

Thanks Colin, In the process I've probably destroyed much of it's vintage value to collectors, even though so far I haven't had to replace any parts. But I did ask! So I'm restoring it to a working unit as requested.😉 Two of the longer frame spacers are now a bit slimmer 😲 after turning most of the corrosion pits off, but useable. Could salvage all aluminium spacers except two of the short ones which just crumbled to dust. I'll make new ones tomorrow or probably Saturday. Tomorrow is a busy day, optician (new goggles), and photographer (new passport photos!), shopping (man's gotta eat sometime😁) and then dinner with the GF. it's all go folks! TA much for the spanners Colin 👍 will be very handy for the reassembly. Looking forward to seeing the motor propelling your across the lake. Don't forget 'The Beast' weighs about 950gm, bit less now that I've removed most of the crud of ages😁 Cheers, Doug 😎

6 years ago by RNinMunich

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Taycol Supemarine Resurrection

Wow Doug, you're a star and letting you loose on my motor proves it. Thanks for taking the time and trouble to restore the rust heap into a useful working motor once again. I better get on with sorting out my dad's old ready to put it in. By the way the BA spanners are on the way via normal post. Cheers Colin.

6 years ago by Colin H

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Elaine motor update/assembly pictures

Well the supermarine will get regular use once I get the boat rebuilt, dad would have loved to see his back on the water. Will be using 12v 7ah sla to power it. Cheers Colin.

6 years ago by Colin H

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A return to the hobby!

SLEC do have a good reputation and its great that the classic kits of old are back in production. The is one of my favourites as I restored one many years ago but foolishly sold it to fund my karting activities four years later. However in 2011 I found another one and restored that. This one I am keeping along with the 34 inch Crash Tender of 1962 vintage that I restored in 2014 being one that the former owner was about to place in a skip. I am interested in a Sea Rover as its a boat I never had. in the early 1960s when we lived in Liverpool, dad would take us up to Fleetwood to see the Aerokits display and watch the steering event on the big lake. Nostalgia aint what it used to be. Boaty😆

6 years ago by boaty

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A return to the hobby!

Hello. I have a soft spot for , I built one somewhere around 1964/5 when I was 13 with the help of my brother in law. I enjoyed the build and painting and buying fittings with my pocket money. I remember the long drying time of Cascamite wood glue! I think I had Frog petrol engine and Macgregor radio, all purchased from Roland Scot. After a couple of years I sold the boat and bought a new Moulton bicicle. I wish I still had both now

6 years ago by Brianaro

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Motor size advice

I do believe that's a , an Aerokits model. Martin

6 years ago by Westquay

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A return to the hobby!

Hi and welcome to the forum. Yup, SLEC are good guys. They're within a pleasant car toodle from me. I have a set of Crash Tender fittings from them since they bought out the Vintage Model Boat Company. is a lovely boat and all the Aerokits are good performers. I have several. Good to see another Chris-Craft builder on here. The world needs more woody fans! Cheers, Martin

6 years ago by Westquay

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Rear Deck assembly –(upper tow deck)

Hi Gents I have found this build fascinating including robbob's build. I have one these to build but will be doing an Aerokits first. As these designs go back to the 60's and were designed by Les Rowe ( I know I had one with an ED Racer in it.) So I will be referring back to this quite a bit. Will start a build blog on it. Shouldn't be to difficult busy changing my model engineering workshop to build boats. Model Engineering too expensive now boiler for my Springbok cost close GBP 1 300.00 alpne 😊😊. Trouble is I am importing all parts from UK etc. Between royal snail mail and SA post office I need to order any requirements in advance.

6 years ago by Ianh

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Hellen Fishing Boat

Hi All This year I bought an unstarted kit, but, sold it to a club member. A month later one of the club member wish to swap for a faster boat and as my required a repaint and fittings. I thought a swap for a very good working Hellen was a good deal. So are making a dingy and replacing the broken prop with a brass one I had my second Hellen for the year. Three weeks ago another Hellen pops up on Gumtree(aka EBAY), so it was to cheap not to buy it. While waiting for it to come, I made a new stand, a dingy with oars and a set of fenders. When it arrive the mast where laying on the deck broken, but , the posted pics show that. The motor is a 11 to 1 geared MFA Como 919 D which runs OK. A spare new plastic prop. Started on the repairs, like the keel and deck around the mast bases. The aft mast was broken in half, so I brass sleeved it. The aft sail was missing and the forward sail was all glued up, so I bin it. So this is the boat pics so far. Canabus

6 years ago by canabus

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What do you do when...

I have had this problem several times myself especially with fast electrics when they "flip" over. At present I take my old Aerokits with me to use as a rescue boat but there is always some element of difficulty when trying to line it up with the upturned craft. How you deal with it depends on the size of your boating lake. On small ones it is possible to have a vertical pole mounted on the bank with a long length of string attached to it. You then roll out the string and walk round until the string makes contact with your boat then slowly walk back bringing the boat to the side. Building a rescue craft like you describe is perfectly normal as I have seen them from time to time and also you see them on You Tube when retrieving usually (you guess it), a fast electric in distress. Good luck with your project and you can also disguise your "rescue boat" to look like a pusher tug etc.😁

6 years ago by boaty

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(Pleasure Craft)

Built from an Aerokits kit. Very pleased with performance, comes up onto the plane quite easily (Motor: Caldercraft 750) (ESC: Chinese generic) (9/10)

6 years ago by Nerys

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Fibreglass hull/deck fit

I don’t currently have an operational boat so not at the moment. Back in the ‘60s I built a and used to sail that regularly at Princes Park. Eastbourne Model Power Boat Club use the lake but I haven’t seen them there for a long time, not sure when they sail, there are often EMYC events there though when I’ve been to the park, it’s a good lake.

6 years ago by Brianaro

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Nice looking boat, I have a couple to restore.

6 years ago by Laurence-Moar

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Hi Kevin-56 The problem is the prop is too big or it was too big of blade area which causes the starboard roll. Also moving the weight over a bit to the starboard side helps. Canabus

6 years ago by canabus

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I first started to build this boat with my father when I was about 15 . Then at about 45 I decided to compleat the build. it originally was built to have a Ed diesele engine,but was to costly to run so I changed to electric power. This proved to be the right decision. The boat runs wel, but when I turn on the full power it tends to lean to starboard and cavatat so I have learned not to put on full power. The is a pleasure to drive.

6 years ago by Kevin-56

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It's a sad day!.

Yes I've decided to sell most of my I.C. Boats and engine, because of this "nanny state" that we live in now. Probably 95% of clubs and sailing waters in my area(Liverpool) stipulate No I.C.s, l'm not traveling 50 miles to sail when in reality I've got several clubs and lakes within 5 to 10 miles from my home. I started model boat building in the 50s with balsa models and on to "aerokits" sea urchin, scout, rover, commander, and the holy grail the sea queen all of which had diesel or petrol engines. Granted we have come a long long way since then with electric and brushless motors, I do use them in both planes and boats, but there is still something to be said for the sound smell and reality of an I.C.engine in a boat, aircraft aren't to bad at the present, until they ban them to. Sorry for the rant but that's the way I feel.😭

6 years ago by stormin

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Motor size advice

Hi Morkullen I suggest a Hobbyking 3639-1100kv 35mm brushless motor with a 60 Amp ESC and a 2 blade 40mm prop. Battery a 3S Lipo 5800mah 25C will give you more than 1/2 hour. I had his setup in my 34" with very good performance. Canabus

6 years ago by canabus

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restoration tips

Get yourself a small pack of epoxy resin from ebay and seek out all slight delaminations of the plywood frames. Get the epoxy in those split bits and clamp them up. A clothes peg is sufficient if you're short of space. You can put a piece of cling film twixt peg and wood so the peg doesn't stick. Then use the rest of the epoxy to waterproof the insides. Be thorough and methodical. if you sand the model back to wood, use epoxy on that, either through fine model aircraft fibreglass cloth or just squeegee epoxy on all over with an old credit card. it goes much further and gets forced into the grain. it's not necessary to use GRP cloth on everything if it's well built. I have several over-50 year old model boats that are perfectly water tight with decent paint jobs (enamel, of course). Cheers, Martin

6 years ago by Westquay

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restoration tips

I think the three windows looks much better than the one big one. Wonder why it changed ? Cost - unlikely the difference can only be minimal. Though the bigger window at the front is likely cheaper than the three porthole in the Sea Queen. Does anyone know why the Commander has the 'spray deflector' (don't know proper name) on the front cabin, and the Queen does not ?

6 years ago by AndyG009