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    12 Volt Conversion Completed!
    I reinstalled Brooklyn's 12 volt motor. Along with her 12 volt
    smoke
    r! Brooklyn's back to smoking the way she should! Not sure why the 12 volt
    smoke
    r.
    smoke
    s more than the 6 volt
    smoke
    r does! But it does! Now this
    smoke
    r, I got.
    smoke
    s a beautiful brown
    smoke
    ! Not a white
    smoke
    as
    smoke
    rs usually do! The brown
    smoke
    I like, I like it alot! The brown
    smoke
    , reminds me of live Steam!👍
    24 days ago by figtree7nts
    Blog
    12 Volt Upgrade!
    I have acquired a 12 volt
    smoke
    r. Now all I have to get is a 12 volt Motor! I really don't like the performance of the 6 volt
    smoke
    r. I have in her at this time. It gives off less
    smoke
    ! Than the 12 volt
    smoke
    rs! Yes, I realize it's a very expensive upgrade. But well worth the cost!
    30 days ago by figtree7nts
    Response
    Re: More Fenders Needed!
    Thanks Doug, I thought she looked a bit naked! I'll order some more fenders. But for now currently waiting. For a new 12 volt
    smoke
    r and new 12 motor! I'm going to use the 6 volt
    smoke
    r. And motor on the Douglas Greg build! Eventually I'll get the Brooklyn's Engine room right!🙄
    1 month ago by figtree7nts
    Blog
    funnel mounts and deck hatches
    Fitted the "legs" to the wheel house so now at correct height when on the deck. Funnel mounts done (just need to finish the funnels, workout what holes to drill and then mount the funnels to the mounts) so we added 2 hatches to each mount, painted white with brass hinges. the one placed between the Cowl vents is open, the one at the back is closed. as we only had "closed" hatches put a triangle shaped bit of plastic under the "open" hatch to prop open. When dry mounting the Cowl Vents found an issue with the rear vents as they are suppose to be higher than the wheelhouse and the ones i got where not, so found 2 wooden cotton reels the right height and turned then down to the correct width using the pillar drill as a lathe, painted them up and then placed the Cowl vents on those. also painted the "flat" vents chrome and stuck those to the mounts as well. to finish off these all we have to do is fit the breather pipes and ladder to funnels and fix the funnels to the mounts (allowing for the front funnel to have the hole for the
    smoke
    generator. Started work on the 2 deck hatches using 1mm plastic sheet. Made the 2 housings up and the planked and varnished them ready for the hatches. found out i had only enough hatches to do 1 housing, so drilled a 7mm hole in the hatch for a 10mm brass porthole, painted white with brass hinges. once dry stuck them on the housing ready to go. (ordered some more hatches to i can complete the other housing lol) one last thing was to start on the wheel box. Found in "The Works" in town a heart shaped box which was almost perfect for a mold for the thin wood that was steamed to shape and then held on the heart to fix the curve in place. next to do is to make up the front and back of the wheel boxes and stick the "curved" wood to that
    2 months ago by barryskeates
    Forum
    Anteo 2 Tug
    Hi Havelock, this is my first boat build,been doing rc model aircraft for 60 years,I know all there is about brushless motors and lipos.The kit specified lead acid batteries and I am using a 2_1 mfa motor and gearbox not quite sure what esc I have got. Lot of this was guesswork.The lead acid batteries will complement whatever ballast I need.2x6v in parallel and I can tap of 12 v for lights
    smoke
    etc I think.
    2 months ago by Dick
    Blog
    A minor adjustment!
    OK, I made a minor adjustment. To the amount of
    smoke
    liquid. Used and now it works correctly!👍 So, figuring that out just saved me. About $190.00!😱
    2 months ago by figtree7nts
    Blog
    Back to 12 volt
    smoke
    r!
    Well, I got back my 6 volt
    smoke
    r. I had sent it to be looked at. Just wasn't smoking a lot. But, everything checks out OK! I like the 12 volt
    smoke
    r instead! So, I'm ordering another 12 volt
    smoke
    r and a 12 volt motor! The 12 volt
    smoke
    r tends to
    smoke
    more. I figure I'll use the 6 volt
    smoke
    r and motor. For my next build. Which will be the Tug Douglas Greg 1/25 scale! See the 6 volt
    smoke
    r.
    smoke
    s like a diesel throttling up! I'm going to make the Douglas Greg a diesel Tug! Here is the 6 volt
    smoke
    r compared to the 12 volt
    smoke
    r! 6 volt
    smoke
    r: https://youtu.be/hSWIXL0nuZE Versus 12 volt
    smoke
    r: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtVIb7IZJiw&t=21s
    2 months ago by figtree7nts
    Blog
    smoke
    r Update!
    Good news the
    smoke
    r works! There was nothing wrong with it! So, it's on it's way back. I should receive it in Fridays mail!
    2 months ago by figtree7nts
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hi Pete, 45 years, Wow! Well I'm glad you have some switches. you can use on your project! It wouldn't have been a problem. I would have sent you some switches! I'm glad you have some though! Yes, Harbor Models is a good place to look for model supplies! There's also Cornwall model boat in the UK. They have a good amount of supplies as well! I also know what you mean about your appointments! It always seams as if there not going to end! Nick, is good people and very helpful! Let me know how you make out! Ed
    2 months ago by figtree7nts
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hello: My Hobby Engine Richardson tugboat is a “premium” model with a factory-installed
    smoke
    system. Unfortunately, the instruction manual has no information whatsoever about the
    smoke
    system; not a single word. With a lot of generously given advice & help from Doug (RNinMunich) & other Model Boats members, I’m working on upgrading the tug’s lighting system & adding missing details. Unfortunately everything came to a halt last fall because of a fall & surgery to fix me up. So, for the time being I’m doing things that don’t require much finesse for fine work. I’m working on plans for future work as well as disassembled the tug’s deckhouse to access its circuit board. Once I had the deckhouse floor removed, I discovered that the
    smoke
    system isn’t a single unit. There’s a blower motor mounted in one location & the component that creates the
    smoke
    mounted in another spot. Tubing connects these two parts, then additional tubing exits the
    smoke
    generator unit & splits via a tee to each funnel. If anyone reading this post has a Richardson or Southampton “premium” model I would greatly appreciate information about the following: 1. There is a black rubber plug underneath the deckhouse. When the plug is removed I can see that it’s directly below the
    smoke
    generator. I noticed that the generator has white foam rubber inside. Is this where
    smoke
    fluid is to be placed? If not, then where? 2. Assuming there are different types of
    smoke
    fluid available, which one should be used in the tug? 3. How many drops of fluid should be placed in the system? I would appreciate any information about the Richardson or Southampton
    smoke
    system specifically &
    smoke
    systems in general. I’m not familiar with them at all & I need to learn. Thanks very much, Pete
    2 months ago by PittsfieldPete
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hi, Ed: Thanks very much for your kind offer, but this morning I found some switches in my almost 45-year (yikes!) accumulation of hobby-related stuff. The ones I’ve got will be just right for my project. I’m going to contact Nick at Harbor Models tomorrow afternoon when I get home from my 854th doctor appointment since I got hurt. OK, it isn’t really that many but it sure seems like it. I believe I’ll be back home by 1:30pm, which will be 10:30am in California. That should be just right; Nick will have time to have a cup of coffee or two before I call & pester him. By the way, I looked around on the Harbor Models website for a while today. I couldn’t believe what they have available! it would be really easy to spend a LOT of money very quickly on that site! I won’t forget to tell Nick that Ed sent me! Best regards, Pete
    2 months ago by PittsfieldPete
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hi Pete, Doesn't it say on the instructions. How long of a run you will have with a fill up? You are right that's why. I put switches on my
    smoke
    r and fan! You don't want it smoking indoors! Pete, I have some very small switches. I had purchased! If you'd like I can send you two! I'm not too far from you! And I wouldn't mind sending you. The switches they are small. And would be just right for you model! If you like I can PM you mailing details! Regards, Ed
    2 months ago by figtree7nts
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hey, Ed: I noticed in one of your post about this topic you mentioned: “PS. When you use the
    smoke
    r. Don't let it dry out. You'll burn the coil! Just keep track of it! And have fun!!!” When you say “when you [I] use the
    smoke
    r”, I need to point out that I don’t have any control over it, as such. I can’t turn it “on” or “off”;
    smoke
    is automatically generated whenever the transmitter throttle is pushed forward or reverse. According to Hobby Engine’s response to my email: “
    smoke
    will be generated automatically when the boat runs”. Based on what you’re saying, Ed, which makes perfect sense to me, if my boat runs out of
    smoke
    liquid I should get it to shore a.s.a.p. because the there is a strong possibility that the
    smoke
    heating coil could burn out. it would be sort of like letting all of the water boil out of the pan on the stove; as soon as the water boils away the pot will weld itself to the stove top pretty quickly! All of this gives me an idea. I think I’ll install an “on-off” switch for the
    smoke
    system blower &
    smoke
    oil heater. There’s more than enough room to add a switch on the deckhouse floor (close to the tug’s main power switch). This would be helpful for maintenance work, too. I wouldn’t necessarily want
    smoke
    coming out of the stacks when I’ve got the boat indoors on the bench & I want to run the motors after shaft oiling or something. My “to do” list keeps growing!! Pete
    2 months ago by PittsfieldPete
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hi Pete, About RNinMunich (Doug). He was having Computer problems a while back. And was off line for a bit! And is busy as of late! I will email him and tell him you asked about him. And send your Regards! Ed
    2 months ago by figtree7nts
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Morning Pete, I'm so glad you found out where to put smoking liquid. 👍 Especially where to put it! when you have the Tug smoking make a video! We would all like to see her smoking! Now all she needs is her lights! But that's a different project.... PS. When you use the
    smoke
    r. Don't let it dry out. You'll burn the coil! Just keep track of it! And have fun!!!😊
    2 months ago by figtree7nts
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Update: I received a reply from Hobby Engine about the
    smoke
    generator system. They even included a drawing (attached) that shows where the
    smoke
    fluid is placed. it confirms that the fill point is where I learned it was today: “Dear Pete: The
    smoke
    will be generated automatically when the boat runs. You can use the hobby oil on the boat. The hobby oil can be easily found at the hobby stores in the neighborhood. The same in which people used for model trains. About 5-6 drops is enough”. The hobby shop located a few miles away from my home sells model trains & they probably have
    smoke
    fluid available. The website where I found the pictures of the Southampton fill plug mentions that ordinary baby oil can be used in
    smoke
    generator systems. According to that website baby oil generates a lot of
    smoke
    & is very clean. I guess it wouldn’t hurt to try a little bit in my boat to see how it performs. I hope this information will be helpful to others who find themselves in the same boat (no pun intended) as me when they want to figure out how to work with Hobby Engine’s undocumented
    smoke
    generator system. Many thanks again to you, Ed. Thanks to Hobby Engine, too, for your prompt, polite & helpful reply to my inquiry. Best regards, Pete
    2 months ago by PittsfieldPete
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hi, Ed: I did more web searching & struck gold. I found some excellent photos & great information about the Southampton’s
    smoke
    system (the Southampton is identical to the Richardson except paint & markings).
    smoke
    fluid goes in the little tube on component “B”, not “A”. When the deckhouse floor is installed that little tube fits snugly into a raised ring on the inside surface of the deckhouse floor. The rubber plug goes through a hole in the deckhouse floor (see photos) to seal it up the filler tube. I’m going to rework the filler tube arrangement by enlarging the hole in the floor so it’ll fit around an extension tube that I’ll add onto the existing filler tube. I’ll seal the extended filler tube with a snug-fitting vinyl cap (I have dozens of vinyl caps on hand). Doing this modification will make it a lot easier for my clumsy fumble-fingers when
    smoke
    fluid needs to be added. I emailed Hobby Engine today via their website’s “contact us” page & asked them for information about the
    smoke
    system. I’m also going to contact Nick at Harbor Models tomorrow & ask him for advice as you suggested. I’ll be sure to “tell him Ed sent me”! By the way, have you had any contact with Doug (RNinMunich) lately? I half expected him to offer up some advice about this topic. A couple of weeks ago I replied to something he posted on the “LED Mast Lights” topic, but he didn’t respond. I also sent him a PM to ask how he’s doing, but he didn’t respond. He used to reply pretty much right away whenever I asked him a question or for advice. I hope he’s all right & I also hope I didn’t say something that insulted him in some way. He did a lot of design work for my tug’s lighting upgrade project. That upgrade is definitely going to get done; it’s been held up all along by a string of eye infections, then my fall, surgery & recovery. if you hear from him please say “hello” for me. I’ll post back later on & share whatever information I receive about the
    smoke
    system or fluid from either Hobby Engine or Nick at Harbor Models. Thanks for your input & advice, Ed. I appreciate it! Thanks, Pete
    2 months ago by PittsfieldPete
    Response
    Tug Brooklyn!
    Nick, Said not enough
    smoke
    ! Send it back for repairs! I personally think the heating element is bad! We shall see ….
    2 months ago by figtree7nts
    Response
    Tug Brooklyn!
    Except the
    smoke
    r Ed? Looking forward to Nick's answer 😉 Like the whistle👍👍 How about a little steam release to go with it? Servo operated valve to let a little 'steam' out from the
    smoke
    r perhaps? (When you get the new one set up😉) Very nice build Ed Hat off 😎
    2 months ago by RNinMunich
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hi Pete, Feel better that's for sure! Maybe after that you'll be able to. Do some work on your tug! Pete, It looks as if you would. Put the
    smoke
    liquid down part "A"! Pete, Your going to have to find that plug! But, I believe where the plug goes. That's where you put the smoking Liquid! Don't you have the instructions to the model? Maybe you can get in contact. With Hobby Engine see if they'll send you a copy! Regards, Ed The
    smoke
    r bottle come with a dropper. I would just put one or two dropper. Full of liquid see if that works! Pete, When you call Nick at Harbor Models. Tell him Ed from Connecticut sent you!
    2 months ago by figtree7nts
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hi, Ed: I’ve attached a photo of the deckhouse interior showing the two
    smoke
    generator components & tubing (these things have since been taken out of the deckhouse). As soon as I’m recovered enough I’m going to modify the existing wiring & finally add the lighting upgrades that Doug (RNinMunich) so kindly worked out for me. The red arrow on the photo points forward. The object marked “A” is the blower motor. “B” is the generator; the short tube is where the rubber plug fits when the deckhouse floor is in place. (I’ve misplaced the rubber plug itself but I know it’s in one of the separate bags I put parts in when take something apart). In the meantime, Ed, I’ll contact Nick as soon as I can as you suggested to ask for his advice, too. Thanks, Pete
    2 months ago by PittsfieldPete
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hi Pete, Is it possible for you to take a picture. And show us the location of the plug! Why don't you call Harbor Models in California? Their number is 626-963-4591 The guys name is Nick! He sells
    smoke
    r Liquid! And he's very helpful! Ask him if you can use it for you tug! Regards, Ed
    2 months ago by figtree7nts
    Blog
    smoke
    r Update!
    Today I had to decide whether to send the
    smoke
    r. I purchased almost two weeks ago! Which I am because it doesn't
    smoke
    like it's contra part! So, I called Harbor Models Spoke with Nick. I told him how it wasn't really smoking! He agreed so come this Friday morning. I'll be shipping it out to be looked at! Now the 12 volt
    smoke
    r works like a charm! A very good unit I might say!
    2 months ago by figtree7nts
    Forum
    Slightly confused newbie
    hi ya J that looks like an Mtroniks speed controller in the pic - does this one have the button on that you press to set it up? because I know what you would need to do is set your trim in the neutral position for the throttle and then go through the procedure of switching on the transmitter and then the receiver and then pressing the button on the speed controller so it recognises where neutral is. I believe some of these Mtroniks are something like 100% rpm forward and something like 75% rpm in reverse. if this idea doesn't work you could always swap the wires over on the motor. (NOT ON THE BATTERY) 🤓 Chinee
    smoke
    y come out of speed controller if you do dat 😲 John
    2 months ago by JOHN
    Forum
    Being Sociable.
    "Why go to all that trouble of adding artificial engine sounds and
    smoke
    rs, when you can have it all and more, by installing a gas boiler and steam engine. When I think of the problems involved to find plans and scratch build a boat, why not go for the authentic look and fit a steam engine." 1. Cost. 2. Space available in the model. 3. Complexity of the engine and difficulty of control. 4. Fire risk, and not just to the model.😲 5. Shorter run times, longer 'steam up' times. 6. Unsuitabilty for many types of ships / boats. I.e. originals weren't steamers. If I read above posts correctly I thought you had already found at least two kindred spirits here. I'm sure that if you take the time to cull throught the hundreds Build Blogs and technical Posts here you will find others. Try using the Search function. See the panel on the left of the Home page. Good luck,😎 BTW: Nobody likes a fanatic! Don't get steamed up 😁
    2 months ago by RNinMunich
    Forum
    Being Sociable.
    I really can't believe that considering all the members that use this website, that no one is interested in steam engines and what steam has to offer. Why go to all that trouble of adding artificial engine sounds and
    smoke
    rs, when you can have it all and more, by installing a gas boiler and steam engine. When I think of the problems involved to find plans and scratch build a boat, why not go for the authentic look and fit a steam engine. in the fifty years or so I have been involved in this hobby I have NEVER ever installed an electric motor in a boat. if anyone out there in the ether shares my passion for steam, kindly get in touch, I would appreciate not being completely on my OWN.
    2 months ago by GaryLC
    Blog
    Build Finalized
    Hello, Finally put some finishing touches on my Rescue Vessel BUILD. Added rubber bumpers to assist in rescuing at bow and stern. Removed the
    smoke
    r unit as these was complicating the build and was against one of my original objectives....Keep it Simple! Overal all I am pleased with is build, it was fun, quick and built mostly with scraps and parts on hand. The Springer Tug design is a great starter design and can be easily modified to personal tastes. I recommend this to those out there to get some initial or just more experience at building. it's fun! Joe
    3 months ago by Joe727
    Response
    Engine Room Refit Completed!
    Hi Michael, As requested here is a picture. Showing the
    smoke
    r! Which is forward of the motor! As you can see there is a piece of wood. Which runs straight up. This I use to keep the
    smoke
    stack supported! It's just a piece of rubber hose. So, I had to put a piece of 1/4"x 1/8" dowel. To support the hose else it would flop down! All my switches are on her port side! And for now the
    smoke
    r switch. Will be out of place. Until I get some thinner gauge wire! To do a better wire run. And make it look neater! Cheers, Ed
    3 months ago by figtree7nts
    Response
    Engine Room Refit Completed!
    Sorry about that Michael, I wasn't ignoring you! I was away from the computer! I will take pictures tomorrow and details I'm not happy with the setup. The
    smoke
    r came with 2" pigtails! Not enough wire so had to solder. Heavy gauge wire to the pigtails! This is all I had at the time! It came out sloppy! I will have to redo. Once I get thinner gauge wire! But, after all was soldered it all worked! And NO magic
    smoke
    ! Except for the
    smoke
    r...….. Brand new replacement motor. Worked a charm!
    3 months ago by figtree7nts
    Response
    Engine Room Refit Completed!
    Of the
    smoke
    r + details
    3 months ago by mturpin013
    Blog
    Engine Room Refit Completed!
    Captain's Log: Tug Brooklyn is now a 6 volt Model! There’s actually no difference except for the voltage drop. I have tested the new 6 volt motor and her new 6 volt
    smoke
    r. All is a go! Patiently waiting for Spring!😎
    3 months ago by figtree7nts
    Blog
    Engine Room Refit!
    Captain's Log: I have decided to use 6 volts. For the main motor and
    smoke
    r! I have ordered the main motor. And have received it. Waiting to order the
    smoke
    r I have removed the main motor and
    smoke
    r. Both of which are 12 volts! I have put them to the side. As I already have a buyer. For both the main motor and
    smoke
    r! I'll be ordering the
    smoke
    r this coming Friday. I should then receive it by Monday afternoon!
    3 months ago by figtree7nts
    Blog
    6 Volts of Course of Course!
    Captain's Log: The right battery for the job! I found a battery that volts and amp's are just right! The most important thing the right weight! The battery weigh's in at 3 lbs. 1 ounce. Which is just right for the Brooklyn! Give or take a once or two.... But, can be adjusted to trim the water line! The battery is a 6 volt 8.5 amp battery. Which will power Brooklyn for 2.5 hours. Or 1.6 hours with her smoking unit on! Brooklyn will run on 5.2 amps with the
    smoke
    r. Or 4.0 amps with out the
    smoke
    r! Unfortunately you live and learn. I tried using the batteries from. Serenity, she's 12 volts 2.5 amps! This was no good, not enough power! Also the 12 batteries weigh too much! So, A 6 volt battery was the way to go! Next is replacing the motor and
    smoke
    r! Am expecting the motor this morning! Will soon order the
    smoke
    r! And again she will be completed. For a spring launching!👍
    3 months ago by figtree7nts
    Blog
    Test
    Today I did a full test of current
    smoke
    r build, it went very well, nice consistent
    smoke
    , very visible. I used just straight a mineral Oil, type sold in Pharmacies. I chose not to use the baby oil again because it had too much of an odor. See video attached. I ran it for one hour, it stays consistent and there was no build up of heat, tin stayed cool. Check of the heating element and wick showed no damage, no build up of any kind, very clean. When I get a chance, I will put a multimeter on it and test the draw so I can fuse it properly. Thanks for you interest. Joe
    3 months ago by Joe727
    Blog
    Model
    smoke
    r Build
    Hello, Yesterday, I showed a Model
    smoke
    r that I built, I have had requests to share details. This blog will walk you through what I did. Please note that this was built from ideas gathered from the web, I did not invent this. Also, anything that has voltage and anything that creates heat can be a hazard, I am not responsible for any damage caused. Again, just sharing information. First, I researched the web and saw how others made a
    smoke
    r, then I just wanted to cobble together one mainly from parts I have. You can see this on a variety of searches and videos. First, Collected parts required. 1. Thrift store hair dryer 2. Wick lamp or Tiki torch, or similar wick 3. Wire crimps 4. 18 GA wire 5. Box, enclosure, container 6. 5v -12v fan, direction pushes air into box. 7. Foil, had copper sheet of aluminum foil 8. Adhesive, used CA 9. Mint tin or other Since I did not photograph the original, I will put together some build steps and sketches. More to come, see photos for parts used. Joe
    3 months ago by Joe727
    Response
    Fan Surround
    Michael, Thank you for your interest and the questions, I appreciate it. 1. With regard to the rubber stopper, good question. I have not done a lengthy test as yet, but will do. My thinking was that it would not effect the rubber as heat generated seems to be concentrated on the oil. I like the idea of a a metal cap, you have given me an idea, I have some small plumbing pieces that may work. it would be good to eliminate all flammable materials! 2. Varying the
    smoke
    r with the engine speed has not been one of my goals, here is my thinking. I plan to use this unit on a steam tug, steam boilers seem to put out a constant
    smoke
    as the burning does not vary on a steam engine, the steam is just regulated. Hence, I have not done this, many commercial units offer this. I recently purchased a commercial unit for over $100 USD and was not happy with the output, that is why I started this build. From my video you can see how the
    smoke
    shoots out. I wanted to slow it down so it just puffs. I have experimented with lowering the fan voltage, but it cuts out below 3 volts. The attached sketch shows my experimenting with allowing some of the air from the fan to npbe redirected out. The tin that I soldered up is shown, took a lot of effort, did not work as planned. I did like the fact that it looked like a whiskey still. 3. Yes, there are smaller fans available on line. I was just using some salvage ones I had - 28mm square. I may experiment with some small fans if budget allows. I am now retired and counting pennies... More on the puffing aspect to come... Joe
    3 months ago by Joe727
    Response
    Fan Surround
    Joe I admire your persistence with this and it seems to have paid off. Each of your attempts has improved well done. I have a question - 1 - is there a chance that the rubber stopper being so close to the heating element could be damaged or melt the rubber? Have you considered a metal screw top, you can sometimes get a metal can with a screw cap, glue tins come to mind you could cut the end off and use the screw cap and just solder the end up. 2 - have you considered adjustable fan speed /element voltage to vary the amount of
    smoke
    according to engine speed. 3 - finally what about a smaller version, can you get smaller fans? just a thought, keep up the good work Michael
    3 months ago by mturpin013
    Blog
    Sketches finally....
    The horizontal tin can design worked well, so I decided to do another and describe the build. First photo shows the original
    smoke
    r, it uses a vertical mount squirrel cage type CPU fan. The majority of CPU fans are horizontal so I will build a new
    smoke
    r with the more common horizontal fan. See sketches attached which are a cut section thru the tin can to show the interior. This explains my design with a stopper that holds the wires and wick. Shows the heating element so that it is above the fluid level. The stopper design makes it easy to remove and allow for any maintenance necessary. Fill fluid can be through the stack tube or through the stopper opening. I have been using the stack tube on my first
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    r so as to disturb the wick and element wiring less. Please review the drawing and let me know what questions you have. Next I will take photos as I punch opening in the cans and solder the brass tubes. Cheers Joe
    3 months ago by Joe727
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    BTW: I grew up with valves (or bottles as we Brits also call 'em) as well. I still have a box of several vintage 'bottles' in the cellar, many of them new still in the original boxes. if you ever run out of triodes, pentodes or tetrodes give me a buzz! Think I still have some pristine EL80s - collectors items these days - lots of Oomph 😁 My next non-model boat electronic project is a pair of digital clocks in 'Art Deco' cases, using bottle decade counters. The forerunners of the fluorescent tubes and then the LED clocks, but much more fun😉. About forty years ago I spent a year or so servicing and calibrating the radiation monitors around UK nuke power plants using these decade counters. One cosmic radiation click = one jump in the base counter and so on. Never ever saw anything above the basic cosmic radiation background count which is always there. A remnant of the 'Big Bang'. 😲 Funny where an interest in electronics and radio can getcha 😁 Look forward to your chimney experiment report👍 My destroyer has two funnels but I found that the little railway
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    rs were not man enough to feed two funnels via a branched tube. But two working in parallel off the one RC channel did the trick. Regarding the chimney effect; Works well at rest or at low speeds, but I also found that instead of a fan some traditional air vent scoops mounted forward of the
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    r augmented the effect well at higher speeds. And my long thin destroyer with 2 x 540s on 12V made a lot of 'speed boats' look silly 😁 Have fun, ciao, Doug 😎
    3 months ago by RNinMunich
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    Hi Joe 👍 In the full size ships I worked on we used Co2 injectors to smother fires in our equipment racks! Guess you could try the Co2 capsules for soda siphons. I have a box of those I 'm considering using for torpedo power! Carry on innovating Man👍 Cheers, Doug 😎
    3 months ago by RNinMunich
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    Doug, That's a very impressive list of ships! I was just thinking yesterday about how to build a
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    r without a fan, your chimney effect caught my attention. My experimental builds so far push the
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    out quickly, I would prefer it puffing out. Deleting the fan and adding the proper length of stack could work, I will try. Your electronics are impressive, nice skills you have. I'm still working with vacuum tubes, valves. Regards, Joe
    3 months ago by Joe727
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    Doug, Yes, thanks for clarifying the Vision, sound good. I think I will add a monoammonium phosphate fire extinguisher system to mine so I can just keep on sailing. Regards, Joe
    3 months ago by Joe727
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    Hi Joe, "If an alarm was used, you still need to get it back to shore before it .........." That's why I suggested a circuit to cut off the power to the heating coil. An alarm is only useful if you are 'hanging around on the spot' to do something about it! 😲 Do you have 'the Vision' now? 😉 PS That's also why I made the decoder to make mine RC.
    3 months ago by RNinMunich
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    Hi Joe, When you click on the Media File icon have you ever noticed the [Download] button in the top left corner of the media window!!?? 😲 Click on that and you are given the choice to Open or Download the file 😉 BTW: to answer your question above - No scale railway at all! I intend to use the loco
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    rs in RC conversions of 1/350 scale plastic navy ships, such as; HMSs Ark Royal, Colossus, King George Fifth, Prince of Wales, Exeter, and KMSs Bismarck and Graf Zeppelin. As well as RMS Titanic and my 1/128 HMS Belfast and Graf Spee. Two more perhaps for my Southampton tug. Have used them in the dim and distant past for my 1/72 scale RN destroyer. Built a little RC pulse decoder using CMOS chips followed by a transistor driver to switch a relay supplying the
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    r coil. See pics of self etched decoder board. The other three outputs are for various lighting effects and destroyer 'Whoop whoop' siren. 30 years old now and still going 😊 The
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    rs work pretty well just using the capillary action of the thin glass feeder tubes. So no wick to come into contact with a a hot wire coil 😊 They were mounted on a bridge across the cap of a large spray can which I used as the oil tank. Exhaust used the chimney effect of a 10mm alu tube running up the funnel. I'm also still pondering how to turn the usual white steam/
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    black! Cheers, Doug 😎
    3 months ago by RNinMunich
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    Did the video work for you guys? I still can't see it.... Joe
    3 months ago by Joe727
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    Michael, Anything can be done but I strive to keep things simple. Like a dipstick for level and fuses to protect the electronics from getting out of control. I generally end up with double fuse protection as well. Best to just get in the habit of keeping an eye on things. The fluid drain is very slow so I don't foresee a real issue with that. If an alarm was used, you still need to get it back to shore before it .......... Cheers, Joe
    3 months ago by Joe727
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    Yep Michael, A thermocouple, a capacitive level sensor, an OR Gate, and a transistor driver for a cut-off relay. Calibration and setting the threshold limits are the tricky bits 🤔 😎
    3 months ago by RNinMunich
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    Great result , well done that man, is there any way of putting an electronic safety device to protects against overheating/lack of fluid etc.
    3 months ago by mturpin013
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    One more thing, I did not try just straight Baby Oil, will try that later... Joe
    3 months ago by Joe727
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    Thanks, did the video PLAY? it's not showing up on my end. For
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    fluid, I used some Baby Oil (mineral oil), and some glycerin. Using an eyedropper I used about 5 eyedropper of baby oil and 1 of glycerin. 5 to 1. The Glycerin was purchase from a store that sells cake decorating, it's used in icing, in the states, Michaels, Hobby Lobby, Walmart, etc. I would think that pharmacies would have as well. The baby oil is Johnson's. Thanks for the comments, Joe
    3 months ago by Joe727


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