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    Response
    Re: Model boat's push tug
    Thanks Marky👍 I have a digital subscription and have received the December issue but not the Special 🤔 Cheers, Doug 😎 BTW: In the December issue there's an excellent article about a
    smoke
    generator, and 'puffing' mechanism, for simulating gun fire from the main battery of the battleship HMS Iron Duke. An impressive 48" model. Worth a read👍
    14 hours ago by RNinMunich
    Forum
    LATEST
    smoke
    R, E-CIG ELEMENT
    That one turned out quite well Martin. I was on the lookout for some sort of can to put the tank in and was prowling round our local Bunnings home depot/hardware store and was in the plumbing section when I suddenly had an epiphany. Remembered I had 40mm waste pipe at home so I bought 2 end caps and a bit of sanding drilling and fitting later, voila' version X. not that small but plenty small enough to go in most boats and very easy to make. There is a turn of loose wire inside so I can lift the tank up to fill it. Strange that it would not work as planned with a bottom air feed, and had to work in reverse. Not to worry, it makes houseloads of
    smoke
    , is self contained and easy to fill, (end caps are just a push fit and the top holds the tank in place by the mouth piece) which is pretty much what I was after. I know we can use the vape coils now and I'm sure I can make a small version with just a coil (same idea as the alloy one, - just need to make or find a smaller can) not too worried at the moment as I think I have enough
    smoke
    devices for now. Be interesting now Myself and Graham have kicked it off, to see what the rest of the crew come up with (I think there are a few under way at the moment). I'm sure no one is going to pay silly prices for the commercial
    smoke
    rs now! (which are pretty much what we have done but in a colorful tin) when you can do it yourself. Seen a few vids on You Tube of people making their own by winding coils on f/glass rope (stove door seals). They work ok but more effort to make. Ready made coils are so cheap (wound coils and replacement screw ins) that it's not worth mucking around. You can buy boxes of various wound coils very cheaply if you make something to use those in. Endless fun. Thank-you E-Cigs!😊 JB
    2 days ago by jbkiwi
    Forum
    LATEST
    smoke
    R, E-CIG ELEMENT
    This is the Model X
    smoke
    r just created at R&D. It uses the previously mentioned (below) vape tank now fitted inside a highly technical chamber (waste pipe and stop ends). The previous drawing I did showing this method has now been revised, and airflow input position changed from bottom to top, as the bottom input forced the fluid through the wick for some reason and flooded the coil. Should have worked theoretically as it should have mimicked sucking on the mouthpiece but theory ain't fact so hence the change. Works really well now and if you blow on the tube gently, you can fill the room with
    smoke
    in real quick time, (lungs are now well lubricated😊) Could have gone for a smaller tube but I wanted to have an air gap, as the vape tank gets hot on 2.5V after a while (too hot to hold). Might make a tinfoil shield/heatsink around it as well. JB
    2 days ago by jbkiwi
    Media
    smoke
    MACHINE MODEL X- NEW! FROM
    smoke
    R&D (SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT !?)
    This is the top of the line, premium, top grade, no expense spared, gold standard, fully reverse flowed liquid converter. Assembled by skilled Latvian craftsmen using quality hammers and pick axes, and working in the most modern up to date farm sheds. We at
    smoke
    R&D, present the
    smoke
    r Model X - "A
    smoke
    r for the discerning modeler" (said Botswana Model Monthly) JB, Head Sherang,
    smoke
    R&D.
    2 days ago by jbkiwi
    Forum
    TRIAL FITTING
    smoke
    UNIT TO THE HSL
    RE -Had mine out on the lake today, one of the other boaters saw the
    smoke
    and thought it was on fire 😁 That would have been amusing Graham, they might have thought it was a LiPo fire which is quite common these days! If it had been, being a fire boat you could have cooled things down a bit (a foam system would be interesting) 😊 although unfortunately, nothing puts LiPo fires out ☹️, maybe throwing them in a bucket of salt water ,- (best way to discharge old LiPos) Any positive comments on the
    smoke
    r? JB
    6 days ago by jbkiwi
    Response
    Re: MORE
    smoke
    R STUFF 2
    Re Will it have Torpedo tubes LOL!! As Homer Simpson says "maaaybe"😂 If I build anything else it will have to be 40" (36 is too small to fit much in. The HSL (36") has 2 sound units, 2 brushless in-runners, 2 ESCs, 2 remote switches, water pump 3x 2s LiPos, a separate 3v dry cell pack for lights and now a
    smoke
    r,- it's fully loaded, - lucky it still floats !!😀😮 JB
    6 days ago by jbkiwi
    Response
    Re: Exhaust
    smoke
    r
    Re- following several weeks experimenting, I was going to ask what pump you had Graham but you have answered it here. Seems to work quite well, not sure how mine will go (if they ever arrive) but there are a number of air pumps on line to try. Need something with a bit of grunt to it. I think this little project has been a great example of Kiwi/Anglo cooperation as we have both swapped ideas back and forth to get this result. Graham has refined the electronics and done a great job and I'm pleased that he has taken an interest in my original simple idea, and with his electronics knowledge made it pretty flash. With the greater model boat interest in the UK, I'm sure it will be seen on more models yet and is a device which can be easily adapted to any model - tugs, PT boats, barges etc, - with or without water. The best thing is it can be made very cheaply as against the price of current marine
    smoke
    machines. JB
    10 days ago by jbkiwi
    Blog
    Exhaust
    smoke
    r
    Following several weeks experimenting, and lots of discussion with jbkiwi, the exhaust
    smoke
    r is now installed in the Crash Tender. The heart of the device is an e-cig tank and coil. This was adapted with an acrylic end piece to allow connection of power and air. The 2ml capacity of the e-cig is a bit limiting so an expansion tank made from acrylic tube was added to give a fluid capacity of around 10ml. The
    smoke
    r fluid is 75% vegetable glycerine. The coil in the e-cig is designed to work from a single cell LiPo battery. A power converter drops the voltage from the boat's 2S battery down to 3.5V with a claimed efficiency of 98%. This voltage is adjustable which allows control of the amount of
    smoke
    produced. Forced air is provided by a small diaphragm pump salvaged from a defunct blood pressure monitor. This pushes air through the e-cig. The resulting
    smoke
    is fed into the cooling water line between the ESC and the exhaust ports. As the
    smoke
    r is most effective simulating the engine 'ticking over' a water pump is used to create some water flow when the main propulsion motor isn't running. This adds more realism to the effect. An electronic controller based on PIC microchips connects to the throttle channel and pulses the air pump at a rate determined by the throttle setting. It also runs the water pump at a slow speed, and controls the power to the
    smoke
    generator coil. If the throttle is held at maximum for a couple of seconds, the
    smoke
    r pumps and coil are switched off to save on battery consumption. With the throttle at idle, a quick blip forward on the throttle will start the
    smoke
    r again. Power consumption is around 0.7A on a 2S LiPo. The two pumps are mounted below the footwell floor and the
    smoke
    generator is fixed to the bulkhead at the rear of the engine room. My thanks go to jbkiwi for his encouragement and suggestions during the development of this feature. Graham93
    13 days ago by Graham93
    Response
    Re:
    smoke
    r test 8 E-Cig version
    Are you thinking of filling your collection with
    smoke
    devices now Collin?😊 JB
    14 days ago by jbkiwi
    Response
    Re: Gun, Decks and Capping Strips
    Yep that makes sense Steve, but I still wouldn't do it that way with that wire! It'll most likely kink while you're trying to fix the stanchions and the remainder are flopping about the shop!☹️ Had similar experience using tinned copper wire on my 1/72nd scale H class destroyer😭 Eventually I sequentially fixed and pushed/pulled the wire through stanchion by stanchion rather than waiting until they were all fixed. Periodically I had to stretch the wire between two pairs of pliers to de-kink it, which was a pain in the nether-lands!🤔 Took a while on a 1.35 metre deck 🤔 But I cheated by making the main deck in two sections; midships so I could service batteries, distribution board, ESC,
    smoke
    r and stern section to get access to motors, rudder and auxiliary sound and switching modules. B and X gun platforms were a bit tricky too! Apart from 'kinky' railing - so far so good Steve👍 Cheers, Doug 😎 PS and BTW, having gone to all that trouble threading metres of wire round the railings - I used them as the + and - supply rails for bow and mast lights! 😉 3V 'rice grain' bulbs in those days. Will be replaced with LEDs during current refit.
    16 days ago by RNinMunich
    Forum
    LATEST
    smoke
    R, E-CIG ELEMENT
    Re - I gave up smoking about two or three years ago now Yes you should give it up Martin, there's research I just read the other day (some US university) that reckons there's harmful stuff in it which is as bad as cigs (not to mention the Nicotine they add!)?? Turn your tank into a boat
    smoke
    r not a
    smoke
    d boat maker😂 Burning Ethylene Glycol, Glycerine Nicotine and 'flavours' can't be good for you, (unless of course your flavours are a liquid form of a certain natural product (referred to sometimes in hippie days as 'old bed socks' ) or you're nipping over the fence to the paddock and collecting the glow in the moonlight 'mushies', nudge nudge wink wink say no more say no more know what I mean😉😉😉😉😂😂 JB
    17 days ago by jbkiwi
    Media
    smoke
    r test 8 E-Cig version
    This version of a
    smoke
    r box uses an E-Cig element in an alloy electronics enclosure.I gave the lid and box a 7mm haircut on the mill to reduce the size, (now 50x50x26, - was 50x50x33) but it could still be 1/2 the width. haven't found a smaller alloy box yet but might come across one, (only really needs to be 35mmx35mmx25mm The element is mounted on a bracket screwed to the bottom of the box (the box being the resevoir and neg) and against the outlet tube, and the pos wire runs through the side (in silicone tube) to the element. The box is packed with cotton wool which is surrounding the element and soaked in
    smoke
    fluid (in this case baby oil) but leaving a passage through the center for air flow. I'm waiting for a couple of air pumps to arrive but I've used the old
    smoke
    r unit pump again to demo the
    smoke
    and pulsing, (makes good
    smoke
    rings too)😊 The element is capable of taking 4.5v, but I'm only using 2v for the test and it
    smoke
    s quite well. The pump is running on 7v but can be varied from around 3v - 8v. The large tubes are to allow for later exhaust fitting (water or dry stack). Once I get the air pumps I'll be running this one with the water again. I've done this (like Grahams version to be able to easily replace the element as the Heng Long
    smoke
    rs, while working ok (but noisy) have non replaceable elements, so if you kill one, it's off to file 13 at the end of the bench😉😁 The pump actually works quite well and if you mount it on sponge rubber it is reasonably quiet and could still be useful in a boat with a bit of interior room.
    19 days ago by jbkiwi
    Blog
    Deck Fittings
    Have decided rather than the follow the instruction to build each section. I am going to build most of the deck fittings before going further in the build. Some of the instruction are a bit vague and the drawing is not to scale, it will be easier to place items if already assembled. Have also made the small steps for access to superstructure from the deck as the drawing does not show any. Made with some old railing wire and plastic card chequered plate. Saw them on an old photo of the Sir Lancelot which was of the same class. Have fitted
    smoke
    generator in funnel and also fitted 2mm studs on base of funnel for better fixing to superstructure. The funnel is made from plastic drain pipe same diameter as the styrene pieces. The loudspeaker box will be fitted in the stern below the wooden slats where the ships boat sits this one is for the steam sound generator. As I didn’t like the printed sheets for fish pond and hatches have made them from strips of walnut and lime wood the same with the trawl boards. Fishpond will also be used as battery cover and front hatch will be the removable cover for the power on/off switch, the superstructure hatch is the cover over the steam whistle loudspeaker which will be fitted in the superstructure.
    22 days ago by Elsrickle
    Media
    Another Exhaust
    smoke
    r
    Inspired by jbkiwi's experiments on a
    smoke
    r, and interested in developing one for my Crash Tender I have built an experimental rig based on using an e-cig for the
    smoke
    generator and an air pump. The air pump is driven by an electronic lash-up which pulses the pump at a rate depending on the throttle setting. The video shows two tests, first with the water off, then with it on.
    23 days ago by Graham93
    Forum
    Construction of a
    smoke
    r
    I know. However my Campbeltown and Hood look pretty good with white
    smoke
    so I shall install a 12v
    smoke
    r in each of the funnels on Resolve. I will post a video as I get into the build. Steve
    2 months ago by cormorant
    Forum
    Construction of a
    smoke
    r
    Click on (see all discussions) in the topic forum then go to page 16 and look for
    smoke
    generator. I hope this is the one. Or type in the search field (
    smoke
    generator) Martin555.
    2 months ago by Martin555
    Response
    Re: SEAPLANE TENDER TANK TEST 2
    Re - that's what I expected would happen, and when that overflows I had already thought of a bilge pump for just those occasions Doug, (have enough pumps 'in stock') but it would be too silly, (I'd have to tow the dinghy with all the xtras!😁) I'd even thought of a co2 cyl (soda siphon type) with a valve setup, (but again the dinghy). Just found some 30mm CF tube (ex helicopter tail boom) which might be good to fit a fan into to bolt to the side of the
    smoke
    r box. I'll have a look at the range of pumps on Ebay etc and see if there are any high output linear ones. Pic is off Youtube, guys done the same as me, just more compact with a 25mm fan glued to the side, - only about 1"x 1.5" (I made my fan box with a 30mm fan). Could probably make a custom
    smoke
    r to suit, as it's only a tiny resistor sitting on the oily wick. JB
    2 months ago by jbkiwi
    Forum
    Marine steam engine wanted
    Go for it MH👍 I wouldn't have the guts or necessary skill and knowledge to even consider it! I'd have to use a
    smoke
    r and electronics to simulate all the noises! More power to your boiler Mike, keep us informed of progress please. Cheers, Doug 😎
    2 months ago by RNinMunich
    Directory
    (Working Vessel) Eppleton Hall
    Still in the process of building a 32nd scale model of the paddle tug "Eppleton Hall" from scratch, for the most part. (Motor: 540 MFA 919D) (ESC: VIPER Marine 25) (10/10). All electronics have now been installed including 2 motors, 2 ESC's, a small
    smoke
    generator, a sound module and speaker, a rudder servo, a distribution panel, all running off a 12V gel cell.
    1 year ago by Ishmael
    Forum
    T.I.D. tug
    She is a great model but could do with a
    smoke
    generator too
    2 months ago by Bryan-the-pirate
    Forum
    Charity shop find.
    Nope, never seen one Colin. Looks like a pretty dangerous piece of kit 💥😮 with only Stop, Low, Medium and High speed settings. As opposed to your Bob's Board which would give smoother control. Could make thruster manoeuvring very tricky, a bit jerky. Maybe you could use the "glowing coils" for a
    smoke
    r! 😊 Cheers, Doug 😎
    3 months ago by RNinMunich
    Forum
    T.I.D. tug
    For all who asked details of my
    smoke
    machine. The case in the 1st photo I got from Maplin some years ago, I have also made some for other people using 3mm plastic card, and that works fine, or just buy a plastic lunch box and use that. You will need to secure the mister/fogger to the bottom of the case with silicon, and thread the leads through the side/top,then make a hole for the funnel, I use two different sizes to make it easier to fit in the boat. Next, a cheap! mini fan, and a 3volt source,you can see the 2x1.5v clip in the second photo, I find this is just right for pushing the steam out. Lastly, a source to change the voltage up from 12volt to 24volt, the working voltage of the mister/fogger. Make sure all seams are covered with silicon, as you can see by mine it doesn't have to be pretty to work, and only I see it! I have put a couple of Ebay links of the items I use, as you can see, it is quite inexpensive......so have a go, joe😁 btw..I use a 12volt 2.1ah, and on a full tank of water,(not full, as it won't work when it's full), I get 20mins steaming.If you need anymore info, just ask😮 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-DC-4A-Boost-Converter-3V-32V-12V-to-5V-35V-24V-Step-Up-Power-Supply-Module/252676342631 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Ultrasonic-Mist-Maker-Fogger-Water-Fountain-Atomizer-Air-Humidifier-24V/121548443136
    3 months ago by Rookysailor
    Response
    Re: 40'' Seaplane Tender, new build P
    Not sure if I can put much more up front Rob, it balances just in front of the motors now so will probably need a bit of rear ballast. I'll see how it floats before getting too carried away, although still working on the
    smoke
    out the exhaust idea (have 3
    smoke
    machines to experiment with.)
    4 months ago by jbkiwi
    Forum
    two part epoxy resin
    Alles klar Herr Kommissar! (Nicht schlecht, Nur - 'auf welchen Seite' - Akkusativ! I think!?😉) All
    smoke
    and mirrors!😁
    4 months ago by RNinMunich
    Blog
    40'' Seaplane Tender, new build P
    Trial fitting all the plumbing for the heat exchanger to make sure coamings will still fit. Small pump behind port motor is the circulation pump and the other is the raw water pump. Also fitted the ESCs and made the battery holders. would have liked the batteries and pumps nearer the stern, but not enough room under the floors. May have to put a few sinkers in the stern to get the WL correct. That can come at the end once everything else is done, (paint etc) Rudder system is also temporarily hooked up and works fine. Will remove and test water system shortly. Using 6mm silicone hose for the raw water pump for better flow. As can be seen, everything tucks away quite nicely out of sight, (was sort of like death by a thousand cuts,- fitted by a thousand slots!) some pretty close fits here and there. could have done without the heat exchanger but I don't do things the easy way. Got to try fitting a
    smoke
    machine in somewhere so I can have
    smoke
    coming out the exhausts with the water (more tubes, more bits!) and a sound unit! Might be pushing it, but I managed to fit twin units on the HSL and that's a lot narrower. Might be a rack system yet, plenty of room upwards in the cabin. Don't really want to put anything in the wheel house, just wheel, instruments etc.
    4 months ago by jbkiwi
    Forum
    Direction finder aerials /water pumps
    Have got some small geared motors spare and can work through my 6 volt reducer in use with the
    smoke
    generator. Switched in conjunction with my esc so it runs when the prop runs. Also the same switches to run pump for engine cooling.
    5 months ago by Elsrickle
    Blog
    12 Volt Conversion Completed!
    I reinstalled Brooklyn's 12 volt motor. Along with her 12 volt
    smoke
    r! Brooklyn's back to smoking the way she should! Not sure why the 12 volt
    smoke
    r.
    smoke
    s more than the 6 volt
    smoke
    r does! But it does! Now this
    smoke
    r, I got.
    smoke
    s a beautiful brown
    smoke
    ! Not a white
    smoke
    as
    smoke
    rs usually do! The brown
    smoke
    I like, I like it alot! The brown
    smoke
    , reminds me of live Steam!👍
    8 months ago by figtree7nts
    Blog
    12 Volt Upgrade!
    I have acquired a 12 volt
    smoke
    r. Now all I have to get is a 12 volt Motor! I really don't like the performance of the 6 volt
    smoke
    r. I have in her at this time. It gives off less
    smoke
    ! Than the 12 volt
    smoke
    rs! Yes, I realize it's a very expensive upgrade. But well worth the cost!
    8 months ago by figtree7nts
    Response
    Re: More Fenders Needed!
    Thanks Doug, I thought she looked a bit naked! I'll order some more fenders. But for now currently waiting. For a new 12 volt
    smoke
    r and new 12 motor! I'm going to use the 6 volt
    smoke
    r. And motor on the Douglas Greg build! Eventually I'll get the Brooklyn's Engine room right!🙄
    8 months ago by figtree7nts
    Blog
    funnel mounts and deck hatches
    Fitted the "legs" to the wheel house so now at correct height when on the deck. Funnel mounts done (just need to finish the funnels, workout what holes to drill and then mount the funnels to the mounts) so we added 2 hatches to each mount, painted white with brass hinges. the one placed between the Cowl vents is open, the one at the back is closed. as we only had "closed" hatches put a triangle shaped bit of plastic under the "open" hatch to prop open. When dry mounting the Cowl Vents found an issue with the rear vents as they are suppose to be higher than the wheelhouse and the ones i got where not, so found 2 wooden cotton reels the right height and turned then down to the correct width using the pillar drill as a lathe, painted them up and then placed the Cowl vents on those. also painted the "flat" vents chrome and stuck those to the mounts as well. to finish off these all we have to do is fit the breather pipes and ladder to funnels and fix the funnels to the mounts (allowing for the front funnel to have the hole for the
    smoke
    generator. Started work on the 2 deck hatches using 1mm plastic sheet. Made the 2 housings up and the planked and varnished them ready for the hatches. found out i had only enough hatches to do 1 housing, so drilled a 7mm hole in the hatch for a 10mm brass porthole, painted white with brass hinges. once dry stuck them on the housing ready to go. (ordered some more hatches to i can complete the other housing lol) one last thing was to start on the wheel box. Found in "The Works" in town a heart shaped box which was almost perfect for a mold for the thin wood that was steamed to shape and then held on the heart to fix the curve in place. next to do is to make up the front and back of the wheel boxes and stick the "curved" wood to that
    8 months ago by barryskeates
    Forum
    Anteo 2 Tug
    Hi Havelock, this is my first boat build,been doing rc model aircraft for 60 years,I know all there is about brushless motors and lipos.The kit specified lead acid batteries and I am using a 2_1 mfa motor and gearbox not quite sure what esc I have got. Lot of this was guesswork.The lead acid batteries will complement whatever ballast I need.2x6v in parallel and I can tap of 12 v for lights
    smoke
    etc I think.
    8 months ago by Dick
    Blog
    A minor adjustment!
    OK, I made a minor adjustment. To the amount of
    smoke
    liquid. Used and now it works correctly!👍 So, figuring that out just saved me. About $190.00!😱
    9 months ago by figtree7nts
    Blog
    Back to 12 volt
    smoke
    r!
    Well, I got back my 6 volt
    smoke
    r. I had sent it to be looked at. Just wasn't smoking a lot. But, everything checks out OK! I like the 12 volt
    smoke
    r instead! So, I'm ordering another 12 volt
    smoke
    r and a 12 volt motor! The 12 volt
    smoke
    r tends to
    smoke
    more. I figure I'll use the 6 volt
    smoke
    r and motor. For my next build. Which will be the Tug Douglas Greg 1/25 scale! See the 6 volt
    smoke
    r.
    smoke
    s like a diesel throttling up! I'm going to make the Douglas Greg a diesel Tug! Here is the 6 volt
    smoke
    r compared to the 12 volt
    smoke
    r! 6 volt
    smoke
    r: https://youtu.be/hSWIXL0nuZE Versus 12 volt
    smoke
    r: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtVIb7IZJiw&t=21s
    9 months ago by figtree7nts
    Blog
    smoke
    r Update!
    Good news the
    smoke
    r works! There was nothing wrong with it! So, it's on it's way back. I should receive it in Fridays mail!
    9 months ago by figtree7nts
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hi Pete, 45 years, Wow! Well I'm glad you have some switches. you can use on your project! It wouldn't have been a problem. I would have sent you some switches! I'm glad you have some though! Yes, Harbor Models is a good place to look for model supplies! There's also Cornwall model boat in the UK. They have a good amount of supplies as well! I also know what you mean about your appointments! It always seams as if there not going to end! Nick, is good people and very helpful! Let me know how you make out! Ed
    9 months ago by figtree7nts
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hello: My Hobby Engine Richardson tugboat is a “premium” model with a factory-installed
    smoke
    system. Unfortunately, the instruction manual has no information whatsoever about the
    smoke
    system; not a single word. With a lot of generously given advice & help from Doug (RNinMunich) & other Model Boats members, I’m working on upgrading the tug’s lighting system & adding missing details. Unfortunately everything came to a halt last fall because of a fall & surgery to fix me up. So, for the time being I’m doing things that don’t require much finesse for fine work. I’m working on plans for future work as well as disassembled the tug’s deckhouse to access its circuit board. Once I had the deckhouse floor removed, I discovered that the
    smoke
    system isn’t a single unit. There’s a blower motor mounted in one location & the component that creates the
    smoke
    mounted in another spot. Tubing connects these two parts, then additional tubing exits the
    smoke
    generator unit & splits via a tee to each funnel. If anyone reading this post has a Richardson or Southampton “premium” model I would greatly appreciate information about the following: 1. There is a black rubber plug underneath the deckhouse. When the plug is removed I can see that it’s directly below the
    smoke
    generator. I noticed that the generator has white foam rubber inside. Is this where
    smoke
    fluid is to be placed? If not, then where? 2. Assuming there are different types of
    smoke
    fluid available, which one should be used in the tug? 3. How many drops of fluid should be placed in the system? I would appreciate any information about the Richardson or Southampton
    smoke
    system specifically &
    smoke
    systems in general. I’m not familiar with them at all & I need to learn. Thanks very much, Pete
    9 months ago by PittsfieldPete
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hi, Ed: Thanks very much for your kind offer, but this morning I found some switches in my almost 45-year (yikes!) accumulation of hobby-related stuff. The ones I’ve got will be just right for my project. I’m going to contact Nick at Harbor Models tomorrow afternoon when I get home from my 854th doctor appointment since I got hurt. OK, it isn’t really that many but it sure seems like it. I believe I’ll be back home by 1:30pm, which will be 10:30am in California. That should be just right; Nick will have time to have a cup of coffee or two before I call & pester him. By the way, I looked around on the Harbor Models website for a while today. I couldn’t believe what they have available! it would be really easy to spend a LOT of money very quickly on that site! I won’t forget to tell Nick that Ed sent me! Best regards, Pete
    9 months ago by PittsfieldPete
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hi Pete, Doesn't it say on the instructions. How long of a run you will have with a fill up? You are right that's why. I put switches on my
    smoke
    r and fan! You don't want it smoking indoors! Pete, I have some very small switches. I had purchased! If you'd like I can send you two! I'm not too far from you! And I wouldn't mind sending you. The switches they are small. And would be just right for you model! If you like I can PM you mailing details! Regards, Ed
    9 months ago by figtree7nts
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hey, Ed: I noticed in one of your post about this topic you mentioned: “PS. When you use the
    smoke
    r. Don't let it dry out. You'll burn the coil! Just keep track of it! And have fun!!!” When you say “when you [I] use the
    smoke
    r”, I need to point out that I don’t have any control over it, as such. I can’t turn it “on” or “off”;
    smoke
    is automatically generated whenever the transmitter throttle is pushed forward or reverse. According to Hobby Engine’s response to my email: “
    smoke
    will be generated automatically when the boat runs”. Based on what you’re saying, Ed, which makes perfect sense to me, if my boat runs out of
    smoke
    liquid I should get it to shore a.s.a.p. because the there is a strong possibility that the
    smoke
    heating coil could burn out. it would be sort of like letting all of the water boil out of the pan on the stove; as soon as the water boils away the pot will weld itself to the stove top pretty quickly! All of this gives me an idea. I think I’ll install an “on-off” switch for the
    smoke
    system blower &
    smoke
    oil heater. There’s more than enough room to add a switch on the deckhouse floor (close to the tug’s main power switch). This would be helpful for maintenance work, too. I wouldn’t necessarily want
    smoke
    coming out of the stacks when I’ve got the boat indoors on the bench & I want to run the motors after shaft oiling or something. My “to do” list keeps growing!! Pete
    9 months ago by PittsfieldPete
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hi Pete, About RNinMunich (Doug). He was having Computer problems a while back. And was off line for a bit! And is busy as of late! I will email him and tell him you asked about him. And send your Regards! Ed
    9 months ago by figtree7nts
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Morning Pete, I'm so glad you found out where to put smoking liquid. 👍 Especially where to put it! when you have the Tug smoking make a video! We would all like to see her smoking! Now all she needs is her lights! But that's a different project.... PS. When you use the
    smoke
    r. Don't let it dry out. You'll burn the coil! Just keep track of it! And have fun!!!😊
    9 months ago by figtree7nts
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Update: I received a reply from Hobby Engine about the
    smoke
    generator system. They even included a drawing (attached) that shows where the
    smoke
    fluid is placed. it confirms that the fill point is where I learned it was today: “Dear Pete: The
    smoke
    will be generated automatically when the boat runs. You can use the hobby oil on the boat. The hobby oil can be easily found at the hobby stores in the neighborhood. The same in which people used for model trains. About 5-6 drops is enough”. The hobby shop located a few miles away from my home sells model trains & they probably have
    smoke
    fluid available. The website where I found the pictures of the Southampton fill plug mentions that ordinary baby oil can be used in
    smoke
    generator systems. According to that website baby oil generates a lot of
    smoke
    & is very clean. I guess it wouldn’t hurt to try a little bit in my boat to see how it performs. I hope this information will be helpful to others who find themselves in the same boat (no pun intended) as me when they want to figure out how to work with Hobby Engine’s undocumented
    smoke
    generator system. Many thanks again to you, Ed. Thanks to Hobby Engine, too, for your prompt, polite & helpful reply to my inquiry. Best regards, Pete
    9 months ago by PittsfieldPete
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hi, Ed: I did more web searching & struck gold. I found some excellent photos & great information about the Southampton’s
    smoke
    system (the Southampton is identical to the Richardson except paint & markings).
    smoke
    fluid goes in the little tube on component “B”, not “A”. When the deckhouse floor is installed that little tube fits snugly into a raised ring on the inside surface of the deckhouse floor. The rubber plug goes through a hole in the deckhouse floor (see photos) to seal it up the filler tube. I’m going to rework the filler tube arrangement by enlarging the hole in the floor so it’ll fit around an extension tube that I’ll add onto the existing filler tube. I’ll seal the extended filler tube with a snug-fitting vinyl cap (I have dozens of vinyl caps on hand). Doing this modification will make it a lot easier for my clumsy fumble-fingers when
    smoke
    fluid needs to be added. I emailed Hobby Engine today via their website’s “contact us” page & asked them for information about the
    smoke
    system. I’m also going to contact Nick at Harbor Models tomorrow & ask him for advice as you suggested. I’ll be sure to “tell him Ed sent me”! By the way, have you had any contact with Doug (RNinMunich) lately? I half expected him to offer up some advice about this topic. A couple of weeks ago I replied to something he posted on the “LED Mast Lights” topic, but he didn’t respond. I also sent him a PM to ask how he’s doing, but he didn’t respond. He used to reply pretty much right away whenever I asked him a question or for advice. I hope he’s all right & I also hope I didn’t say something that insulted him in some way. He did a lot of design work for my tug’s lighting upgrade project. That upgrade is definitely going to get done; it’s been held up all along by a string of eye infections, then my fall, surgery & recovery. if you hear from him please say “hello” for me. I’ll post back later on & share whatever information I receive about the
    smoke
    system or fluid from either Hobby Engine or Nick at Harbor Models. Thanks for your input & advice, Ed. I appreciate it! Thanks, Pete
    9 months ago by PittsfieldPete
    Response
    Tug Brooklyn!
    Nick, Said not enough
    smoke
    ! Send it back for repairs! I personally think the heating element is bad! We shall see ….
    9 months ago by figtree7nts
    Response
    Tug Brooklyn!
    Except the
    smoke
    r Ed? Looking forward to Nick's answer 😉 Like the whistle👍👍 How about a little steam release to go with it? Servo operated valve to let a little 'steam' out from the
    smoke
    r perhaps? (When you get the new one set up😉) Very nice build Ed Hat off 😎
    9 months ago by RNinMunich
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hi Pete, Feel better that's for sure! Maybe after that you'll be able to. Do some work on your tug! Pete, It looks as if you would. Put the
    smoke
    liquid down part "A"! Pete, Your going to have to find that plug! But, I believe where the plug goes. That's where you put the smoking Liquid! Don't you have the instructions to the model? Maybe you can get in contact. With Hobby Engine see if they'll send you a copy! Regards, Ed The
    smoke
    r bottle come with a dropper. I would just put one or two dropper. Full of liquid see if that works! Pete, When you call Nick at Harbor Models. Tell him Ed from Connecticut sent you!
    9 months ago by figtree7nts
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hi, Ed: I’ve attached a photo of the deckhouse interior showing the two
    smoke
    generator components & tubing (these things have since been taken out of the deckhouse). As soon as I’m recovered enough I’m going to modify the existing wiring & finally add the lighting upgrades that Doug (RNinMunich) so kindly worked out for me. The red arrow on the photo points forward. The object marked “A” is the blower motor. “B” is the generator; the short tube is where the rubber plug fits when the deckhouse floor is in place. (I’ve misplaced the rubber plug itself but I know it’s in one of the separate bags I put parts in when take something apart). In the meantime, Ed, I’ll contact Nick as soon as I can as you suggested to ask for his advice, too. Thanks, Pete
    9 months ago by PittsfieldPete
    Forum
    Richardson/Southampton
    smoke
    Generator
    Hi Pete, Is it possible for you to take a picture. And show us the location of the plug! Why don't you call Harbor Models in California? Their number is 626-963-4591 The guys name is Nick! He sells
    smoke
    r Liquid! And he's very helpful! Ask him if you can use it for you tug! Regards, Ed
    9 months ago by figtree7nts
    Blog
    smoke
    r Update!
    Today I had to decide whether to send the
    smoke
    r. I purchased almost two weeks ago! Which I am because it doesn't
    smoke
    like it's contra part! So, I called Harbor Models Spoke with Nick. I told him how it wasn't really smoking! He agreed so come this Friday morning. I'll be shipping it out to be looked at! Now the 12 volt
    smoke
    r works like a charm! A very good unit I might say!
    9 months ago by figtree7nts
    Forum
    Slightly confused newbie
    hi ya J that looks like an Mtroniks speed controller in the pic - does this one have the button on that you press to set it up? because I know what you would need to do is set your trim in the neutral position for the throttle and then go through the procedure of switching on the transmitter and then the receiver and then pressing the button on the speed controller so it recognises where neutral is. I believe some of these Mtroniks are something like 100% rpm forward and something like 75% rpm in reverse. if this idea doesn't work you could always swap the wires over on the motor. (NOT ON THE BATTERY) 🤓 Chinee
    smoke
    y come out of speed controller if you do dat 😲 John
    9 months ago by JOHN


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