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Fire Float information by robbob Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 5 days ago
Hi Doug. Have a look at this thread by FireBoat back in December 2016. Rob.

Fire Float information by jarvo Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 5 days ago
Good morning, in the Plans and Doc's section, it contains the info on the RAF Fire Float, i am looking for info on the towing arm, size and any close ups, also is it possible to download some of the photos??? I will be displaying my 46" model at some local shows and am compiling a small file of info to display together with the boat. Mark

krick romarin "ex robbe" by fryer1966 Chief Petty Officer   Posted: 10 days ago
anybody have any inside info when krick romarin who took over robbe will be re releasing the dusseldorf fire boat ?? thank you

Too Powerful Brushless ? by pmdevlin Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 12 days ago
sorry to bore everyone with repeated info, as a similar question was posed recently. I agree with the fact that shaft is too thin, it very much looks llike a fibreglass very light racing boat set up, now this doesnt mean you cant go fast with your boat, but you need components that are up to lugging a big heavy lump of wood around the pond, not a lightweight feather😊 I have 5mm shafts, less whipping. and I have oilers so they are lubricated with oil rather than grease, just my preference. You can get these shafts from shg marine, they will supply with push in aceteal (probably spelt wrong!) water lubricated bearings, real cheap, so you can change then every season if you want. The shaft has to be supported, where it exits the hull, just put it through another piece of ply, and fill the void with epoxy, and double up the former thingy it goes through in the same way. (pic) The prop you used is the wrong blade type, thats probaly why it fell apart, plus the soldered on blades are a weak design for higher speed, simon higging is one piece, but at this stage, still testing, you can get plastic "x" blade ("s" blade are less speed)_ props again from shg marine for a few quid each, then you can test a few different sizes. If you jump in for an expensive brass one, and its wrong, its wasted money. As a starting point, 35mm, 40mm and 45mm, if you dont have any way of testing with data logging etc, you are doing short runs, with the smallest first, and seeing if the motor gets hot etc, and what sort of speed you are doing. My brushless motors are generally 800 to 900kv, and achieve 25mph in four foot heavy hulls, you want lower kv for torque, not high kv high rev motors. I got into thsi 10 years ago, thwere was NO advice around then as it was new tech in boats so I learnt the hard way😭 When (if) you go to a brass prop, the "cleaver" blade design (pic) works well, I did extensive testing with my Huntsman and fireboat and was lucky enough to have Simon Higgins testing props with me on my boats, again because what I was doing, large scale boats, but going very fast, was unique, and the cleaver design was the best at the time. Forget the fear of lipo, and brushless, they go as slow as your throttle stick is pushed, 👍

RE ads90's Vosper Firefloat by boaty Commander   Posted: 26 days ago
Thanks for your reply and its very interesting. Was your model based on an advanced Fire Float that little was known about outside of military circles? Bridlington is only a short distance from RAF Elvington which was a bomber base in WW2. In the 1950s it became a V Bomber base and logically it would need to have improved marine rescue facilities to deal with aircraft that had ditched in the North Sea. It could be that your boat was built to fulfil this role and there may be a possibility that other Fire Floats may have been constructed for similar uses but not disclosed. 😁😁😁. Boaty

RE ads90's Vosper Firefloat by boaty Commander   Posted: 27 days ago
I have done a bit of research into the possibility of it being a Mark 1 fire float but have not as yet come up with anything. I have a theory about this boat as when the Mark 2 fire floats were "disposed of" around 1958 there is very little detail of what became of them. Could one or both of them have undergone some modifications with the extension to the cabins etc but it was never recorded, ie not on historical records of R.A.F launches. Boaty😁

Vosper Firefloat by ads90 Commander   Posted: 29 days ago
[Score: 8/10] 33"/1000g Vosper Firefloat Capable of 12mph and a runtime of 15mins Single Propellor (2 Blade X Type 40mm) Direct Drive to a Graupner 600 Turbo (2 Blade X Type) Powered by NiMH (7.2v) 4Amp/h Batteries Controlled Through Torpedo 30 Amp (10Amps) ESC - Comments: This is one of my oldest and favourite boats - as you can see it is a Fireboat but it is not a Vosper Mk 2. It was kit built at one time but I haven't been able to track down what it is. Is like a Vosper Firefloat Mk.2 but It Is different. The bridge section of my boat is different being longer, the mid-ship section having three windows in lieu of two and the stern is completely different in profile. I first wrote about my boat on the Model Fireboat Website back in 2010 and asked for any help in identification but despite lots of good comment but I was none the wiser. I contacted Terry Holtham who is an acknowledged expert in RAF Marine craft having written many books and he provided me with a lot of information and said "It bears an uncanny resemblance to the drawing I received which was an official Vosper drawing but not with a number or date I have presumed it to be what I believe is the Mk 1 version of the 46ft Firefloat". However this is not definitive and I still have no real answer. Great fast little boat that 'turns on a sixpence' though.

Fairey Huntsman & Swordsman by pmdevlin Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 30 days ago
I dont uses mixes, but do use exponential and rates (spektrum dx6i) with my twin screw brushless 4 foot fireboat. When at speed rates on, then it turns nicer, no roll, when going slow rates off so turns are sharper, if that makes sense. Mixing the throttles.. interesting not thought of that, but it will lose power/speed. We use mixing on planes for taxiing, particularly on water, but once airborne its off. My avatar has this as the cheapo motors just wont balance so it compensates for this on the water. With the boat its easier to control with rudder input. I like the thinking though!😁

34" Crash Tender - prop / rudder type by pmdevlin Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 30 days ago
Hi peter, do you want a brass 3 blade prop for cosmetic reasons, if so they do look nice. I did extensive testing with my 3 foot fireboat using brushed, then brushless motors, and then prop testing. I was using eagle tree data logging for watts, amps, gps speed etc. The plastic two blade cheap as chips props actually produce similar readings to the more expensive brass 3 blades. Personally, as you are at the "guess work" stage, just use the plastic two blade ones, but use "x" pitch, standard wont give you the speed. Get a few sizes, 30, 35 40 mm and test. When you have the optimum set up you can then go to the expense of the brass prop. I sent Simon Higgins (ex prop shop) my readings and he made a specific prop for my boat, its a 35mm cleaver 3 blade. He has his own company now but I've forgotten what it is! He was at Blackpool last year so someone might have the list of traders. His props are balanced and one piece, very nice. I also experimented with a belt driven gearbox. The set up I have at the minute is this motor overkill really! but my 3 footer is an original very heavy aerokits boat.

46" Firefloat What Motor/Battery by canabus Admiral   Posted: 30 days ago
Hi Jarvo I also have a 46" Fire boat, but, it's only single shaft as I am the second owner. I am using a L5055-700kv, 4S 5800mah 40C Lipo, 60Amp esc and a 2 blade 52mm prop. In a twin setup a pair of Hobbyking 3639-1100kv on 3S or 4S batteries with 60Amp ESC's and 3 blade 37mm props and if you wish more speed a straight change over to the sister motors the 3648-1450kv but you may have to drop the props back to 2 blade 40mm. Canabus

fireboat or similar by pmdevlin Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 30 days ago
new thread started, hull secured!👍

fireboat or similar by DimReaper Seaman   Posted: 1 month ago
Hi Dave My apologies, I had only intended to reply to original post. But I will look into placing it in the relevant area as suggested Kind regards Steve

fireboat or similar by Dave M Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 1 month ago
Hi Steve If you are selling your Aerokits Crash Tender I suggest you create a new post in the Forum under for sale/wanted.

fireboat or similar by DimReaper Seaman   Posted: 1 month ago
Hi Paul I shall try and put some pictures up anyway its no where near RTR and will require some work to bring it up to scratch, i just haven't got the time. regards steve

fireboat or similar by pmdevlin Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 1 month ago
Hi Steve, many think for offer, its well worth far far more, but its just too good for what I am looking for! I need somethingn thats about to go in the bin !😁 thanks for the generous offer though Paul