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Bit of a problem............. by RNinMunich Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 2 months ago
I believe it should be black Neville. I would also correct the number. All the Fireboat and similar builders on the site know where to get the decals. Check out the Build Blogs / Discussions. I've started printing my own on adhesive Decal Paper, but I'm just like that 😉 Cheers, Doug 😎

Latest Post by Fireboat Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 2 months ago
Hi, I'm afraid there's no way to do this, except in the build blogs. Forum threads are always chronological order with the original post at the top and newest at the bottom. Thanks, Stephen

Range Safety Launch? by RNinMunich Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 2 months ago
Evenin' Neville, Yes go for 3 blade cast (not soldered) brass props, one LH, one RH. Jury is still out on which should be port and which starboard😉 Size I'm not sure of, my 28" twin shaft PTB has 35mm props, which I may reduce depending on the sea trial results, so I'd guess your 44" boat may need something larger, perhaps 40-42mm? Hope the drivers of larger Fireboats and such pick this up and can advise! All the best, Doug 😎

new post emails by Fireboat Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 2 months ago
Hi Boat Shed, This will be resolved when the new website launches. The new email format is also better designed to display on phones and desktops, with hyperlinks that go directly to the correct part of the website. Just don't ask when this will be live 😊 it's in development and I'll post further news as it gets closer to going live. Thanks, Stephen

Range Safety Launch? by RNinMunich Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 2 months ago
Evenin' Neville, Re Leak- Where did the water collect? Anywhere near the end of the prop-shafts? Whatever; as soon as it's dried out give it a good internal coating of EzeKote from Deluxe Materials, no pong and no hardener resin. Brush it on generously and leave to dry/harden overnight. Put PLENTY down in the bilges around the keel boards. Brushes you can simply wash out in warm water. Very 'People friendly'👍 After that carefully inspect the outside of the hull for flaked paint, cracks and delamination of the skin or keel wood. Re scale for fittings- "Some of the 1/16th look better than the 1/12th and 1/24 is in with a change for some bits!" Don't quite get the last bit! Whatever 😉 The original was LoA 43' = 516". So your model with 44" is without doubt as near as dammit 1/12. (1 to 11.727😁) Owt else for the fittings would look a bit 'Gulliver's Travels' 😲 Re Build Blogs; the most comprehensive one I've seen here on Fireboats is Robbob's outstanding build and incredibly detailed and informative blog 👍👍👍 Can't wait to see what electrics you've ordered, another big white delivery van full of surprises?😁 Bon chance mom ami, Cheers, Doug 😎

46Firefloat Mk2 paint by RNinMunich Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 3 months ago
Hi Astromorg, Hmm! Your assessment throws up some interesting questions! 1 If the 'teardrop' is a DF antenna what frequency band was it intended to detect? It's way too small to contain the multiple antenna elements necessary to detect, and determine the angle of incidence, of any frequency in common use at that time. I've also never seen a microwave waveguide that shape. If DF I would expect a rotating loop antenna in that era. 2 It's my conviction that the tear drop on the Vickers Wellington is a streamlined VHF antenna. Or just possibly a radar detector much later in the 'grand ruckus'. 3 Why would a Fireboat need a DF set anyway? 4 Some photos clearly show a forward facing lens (white disc) in the teardrop. 5 Such boats when tied up to a mooring buoy instead of the dock would require a 360° visible light. Hence mast-top is the favourite mounting place. 6 Visible angle is primarily a question of the lamp and lens construction and not necessarily the mounting position. 7 A stern light providing the 'fill in all round' is a contradiction of the purpose of running lights which are so constructed and mounted as to help the observer to determine which way the vessel is moving. Forward and aft lights visible 180°? red and green 90°. Which combination you can see helps indicate which way the vessel is moving; towards or away from you. Conversely the single anchor light should be visible from any angle. It can be yellow to distinguish it from a running light. Current regulations also recommend the use of deck lights while at anchor. 8 I agree re position halfway up the mast for the forward running light, BUT, as the masts on these vessels were often folded down the permanently fixed forward running light on the cabin roof would make sense. But then, that's only my opinion! And what do I know?😲 I only worked in communication engineering for 45 years, the last 32 of 'em in Integrated Naval Communication Systems, on all types of vessels from Fast Patrol Boats through FACs, OPVs, corvettes, frigates, conventional subs and up to Escort Aircraft Carrier. Cheers, Doug 😎

Aerokits MTB, what is it?... by RNinMunich Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 3 months ago
John, You can't remove Messages, or any other post or anything else for that matter, from the website. Only an Administrator, e.g. Fireboat, can do that. All you (or I) can do is delete the Notification of a message or post from our own personal Mailbox; Outlook or whatever you use. Personally I avoid Outlook like the plague 😲 Ta for the 'Well Done' 👍 Had to correct a stoooooopid wiring mistook then all was well.

BRUSHLESS ESC by RNinMunich Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 3 months ago
Also check the STALL current of your motor! If the prop gets blocked the current drawn from a LiPo can rise so much it melts the motor and ESC if it can't withstand very high current. Worst case - you have a boatfire instead of a Fireboat! 😡 Better still; fit a fuse of much lower rating than the stall current so that that blows and not the motor 😉 On normal running the ESC should have a continuous current rating of at least 50% more than the max running current of the motor. As advised above, check this with a 'Wattmeter'👍 Attached an extract from the instructions of a typical unit as I have. Only costs a few quid but can save hundreds 😉 Happy sailing, cheers, Doug

Vintage Aerokits Fire Boat by rolfman2000 Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 6 months ago
It's nice to see vintage Fireboats running anytime. But running with original motors is unusual, and makes this even nicer. Thanks for sharing, as I am halfway through a rebuild of an original Aerokits boat as well. I think mine had a 10cc glow in, but not for long, as its not full of goo like some are. Im putting an equivalent brushless motor in, and hope to have it wet by the end of summer. Best wishes, Dave W 😊

47" Fireboat power question by rolfman2000 Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 6 months ago
Thanks Ron. I always though the I'v times the voltage gave the prop revs. As my G-60 is only a 500kv, then my 4s at 14volts should be sufficient, but a 3s might be a bit short at 11.1v. But I will give the Graupner 50mm hydro a try, which at the least is a place to start from. Once again, thanks for the advice Ron. Happy sailing, Dave W😊

47" Fireboat power question by ronrees Sub-Lieutenant   Posted: 6 months ago
Hi Rolfman, This one is for you.....I wouldn't fit a 6 cell Li-Po to run your 47 inch fireboat!..It would be uncontrollable almost, even if you throttled back. That relates to an output speed in excess of 11,000 rpm at the prop. Safer to try a 5 cell (9,250rpm) or even a 4 cell (7,400) initially. Also see my message to Shaun. I use a G60 in mine with 4 cells which is ample, the extra battery pack in Shauns will double the running time. I only use 1 cell. I use a 50mm two blade Hydro Graupner prop (From Gliders UK), it could handle a bigger one but everything starts to get a bit warm!! Cheers......Ron.

47" Fireboat power question by ronrees Sub-Lieutenant   Posted: 6 months ago
Hi Shaun, This design of hull forces the craft higher and higher the faster it goes. When it is high on the plane and almost hanging on the last few inches of propshaft it can fall off the plane either way, usually to the right (Starboard) side because of engine torque. The full size boats were fitted with 2 or 3 engines to help counteract this. The British Powerboat Company, who originally designed the hull that Vospers copied back in the 1930s/40s also noticed this which led to double skinning the hull with 1 inch thick mahogany for extra strength against pounding and falling on the waves. Lowering the drive angle of the propellor shafts and adding more weight from the C of G back to near the stern. We build this 3 screwed designed hull with one mainshaft usually so do not have the benefit of shaft rotation to stabilise the boat at speed. It was in the 1960's that Fairey engineers had the same problems (Swordsman,Huntsman etc) They came up with large transom mounted powered Trim Tabs. Their boats had similar problems and only one shaft in the main. I suggest you try fitting 2 x 2 inch wide by 1 inch deep trim tabs at the very bottom of your transom midway between the keel and the chine as well as move your battery packs forward a bit initially. Try some fast tests with this, you only need 2 to 4 degrees of down on the tabs initially. Add removeable weights near the CG as needed, a bit at a time but don't stop the bow lifting up onto the plane. Have fun, best of luck. Ron Rees

47" Fireboat power question by Flack Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 6 months ago
Hi Dave, Definitely in parallel to give the duration. I have just moved home and all my boats are in storage so unfortunately I can't give you the prop size at the moment. Cheers Shaun

47" Fireboat power question by rolfman2000 Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 6 months ago
Thanks Shaun, I intend being careful with it. The boats were originally fitted with 10cc glow engines, so an equivalent electric motor should be ok. But I can always reign it in on the throttle side of the esc curve. Are your 2 LiPo's in series of parallel ? I expect parallel, as series would give 8s which would be crazy. You still didn't say what size prop you were using. Best wishes, and good sailing, Dave W 😊

47" Fireboat power question by Flack Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 6 months ago
Just a word of caution - I fitted my 47 inch fireboat with a JP Energ I.C. 60 O/R 670 (C50-20) Brushless Motor which is similar to the one you are considering fitting. I use it with a Fusion hawk 120 amp electronic speed controller and it is powered by two 4s LiPo batteries. The performance is exciting to say the least and I find that once it is on the plane it becomes unstable and prone to capsizing. Shaun.