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H.M.S Bulldog by RHBaker Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 1 year ago
Think it was a great deal. Cannot buy the hull for anywhere near 50 GBP! I built one under a blog HMS BULLDOG / BEAGLE a couple of years ago. Turned into a nice model and very nice sailer. Only downside is she is bigger that fits my car easily and susceptible to transport damage. Good luck. As Dave M suggests, write a blog so we can watch the rebuild, it should be interesting.

DAMEN STAN 4207 by RHBaker Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 2 years ago
The weather is still mild in Canada and our local boating pond has not yet become an ice rink. Decided it would be worthwhile to check the ballast (to be sure the hull was not too heavy, thus rendering it scrap), then assess performance and the operation of the fin/ rudder linkages. The day dawned windless and bright, ideal for a test sail. Lowered the hull carefully into the water and checked the waterline against the marks added from the plan. To my immense relief, both bow and stern rode above the waterline marks. The stern rode higher than the bow. This was reassuring as the bow already contains most of the final features, but the stern requires engine air intakes, the RIBs , cranes and other finishing details. As these are added the stern should sink lower, raising the bow. Although the 2 x 7.2 X 5000 mAh NiMH batteries fit snugly on both sides of the keel they can also be moved towards the stern to help obtain correct levels. This means the final balance can probably be achieved by moving components and not adding ballast. The moment of truth! Powered the model up and was pleased by the operation of the fin/rudder combination. In hard turns, if anything the hull inclined into the turn; nevertheless it was stable. This suggests that operating the fins and rudders at the same ratios is close to correct. Using a servo for each mechanism simplifies the linkages and internal congestion of the model. The speed of the model far exceeded any semblance of scale, making the controls sensitive and unstable. Currently have the batteries connected in series, will modify to parallel and hope this should give a close to correct performance. This experience was similar to my HMS Beagle model, which is considerably heavier and bulkier. As the power trains are virtually identical, the reduced voltage should be near correct.

DAMEN STAN 4207 by RHBaker Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 2 years ago
Fitted the bow thruster casing, this also requires very careful measurement and location before gluing in place. A brace was added to firmly locate the thruster as the adhesive dried. Reinserted the propeller shafts and trial fitted them. The motor couplings were installed along with external sleeves to hold them rigid. This enabled the motor and mount assemblies to be aligned. Found that leaving the upper hull sheathing off helped eased this operation as can measure and use straight edges in both planes. The next items to install were the stabilizer fins. Made the fins out of styrene sheet bent around a brass rod, the gap was filled with epoxy adhesive. This holds the rod in place and gives the styrene the requisite aerofoil shape. The rod slides into a brass sleeve to allow the fin movement. Fitted the sleeve into a wooden reinforcing strip glued to the hull inside face. Took care to ensure the brass sleeve inner ends terminated above the water line. Described this rudder building technique in my HMS Beagle blog and can report it works equally well for stabilizer fins as for rudders. Fitted rudder horns onto the brass shafts inside the hull and made up a linkage using old bicycle spokes. Thought this might be difficult as the two stabilizer shafts follow the contour of the hull bottom and are inclined towards each other with an included angle of around 140 degrees. By bending the linkage to replicate the contour found the movement remains free. One of the rudder horns was then connected to a servo to operate the fins. As the servo is mounted parallel to the keel top and the fins are inclined, during operation there is a force that tries to slide the rod out of the servo horn. This was overcome by using a threaded portion of rod through the horn fitted with a nut to hold the rod in position. Not sure if the fin movement should follow that of the rudders (the sense is opposite, but do they move through the same arc at a similar rate?). To allow corrections the stabilizer linkages were made adjustable. The first test sails will show if any are needed.

DAMEN STAN 4207 by RHBaker Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 2 years ago
Some years ago I visited the Liverpool Maritime Museum and noticed a model of HM Coastguard cutter 'Vigilant'. This was an attractive static model, but one that seemed to have the potential to be made operable. After some research, determined the vessel was a derivative of the Dutch Damen Stan 4207 patrol boat. There are many pictures of this type of vessel in the liveries of several countries on the net. However, after numerous inquiries searching for plans or drawings, was advised they would not be available as long as this was a current production vessel. Thus decided to shelve the project and continue with building other models concluding with HMS Beagle, my previous blog. This was in the hope that eventually a lead on drawings would arise. Last winter our Club was invited to tour a Canadian Coastguard 'Hero' class vessel which is berthed locally. The tour reawakened my interest in a patrol boat model, particularly as the 'Hero' class is another Damen Stan 4207 derivative. My search for plans was initially unsuccessful, but a Dutch contact made inquiries directly with Damen and they kindly set him a set of sheer lines, sections and GA drawings. These contained enough information to develop a set of model plans.

HMS BULLDOG / BEAGLE by Pav403 Commander   Posted: 3 years ago
Hi, I've just sent you a private message with the 25Ft motor boat details I have from my post WW2 Warship. Hope they help? If you need more detailed images let me know. Regards Dave

HMS BULLDOG / BEAGLE by Pav403 Commander   Posted: 3 years ago
I may have something that could suit?? (With a bit of adaptation) I'll send over a few pictures in a couple of hrs. The scale is 1/96 however. Regards Dave

HMS BULLDOG / BEAGLE by Dave M Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 3 years ago
Yes mine is the steam picket boat as used on capital ships at the beginning of the last century. You nedd one from the post ww11 period

HMS BULLDOG / BEAGLE by Ballast Admiral   Posted: 3 years ago
Sorry that should have read Fairey Huntress !

HMS BULLDOG / BEAGLE by Ballast Admiral   Posted: 3 years ago
This looks like a vessel the Royal Navy use as a liberty/picket boat called a Farey Huntress

HMS BULLDOG / BEAGLE by RHBaker Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 3 years ago
Thanks Dave and to the others who have responded. The steam picket boat you sent looks to be twin screw and a longer vessel than the survey boat / barge I am looking for. Have attached a picture showing the plan side view, does anybody have anything on these lines?

HMS BULLDOG / BEAGLE by Dave M Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 3 years ago
Looking neatly complete. Neat idea to use a plg to charge the batteries. I have a steam picket boat which is similar to the Admirals barge but not as shiny. I will send you a pm with a pic. I have plans for this. Dave

HMS BULLDOG / BEAGLE by RHBaker Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 3 years ago
Finished the fore and stern decks. Most of the fittings are either scratch built, with some from a couple of specialist epoxy cast item suppliers. The plans and ship pictures enabled the fore deck to be made quite accurately. That is not the case with the stern as the plans, pictures of other models and actual vessels show several differences. Ended up using Modelers license to arrive at a layout which seems representative of the class. The only approach that could be considered out of the ordinary was the Land Rover installation. Made up a mounting plate as no self respecting RN crew could live with the oil pools on the decking! This is held down with a female jack-plug socket which can be used to charge the batteries. The corresponding male jack-plug is fitted to the underside of the Land Rover so the vehicle can be fitted onto the plate and held in place. The picture also shows a screw fitting where one of the deck derricks, which are held down with magnets, is located. This screw also holds down the removable deck. Now moving onto the centre superstructure. One of the opportunities presented is the 28'6" survey boat, which is similar to an Admirals barge. Does anybody know where I can get plans for this? 1:48 scale would be ideal, although can scale if necessary.

radar setup plans by Pav403 Commander   Posted: 3 years ago
Hi, I initially was going to use a small 30RPM motor to directly drive a radar in my model but when it came to the mast and setup I realised I could not fit it in (shame) but if you look at RHBakers build blog of HMS Bulldog / Beagle he has posted a very good example of a radar setup that may help you? Regards Dave

HMS BULLDOG / BEAGLE by RedRider Lieutenant   Posted: 3 years ago
Thanks Mate, Does give me an indication of where I might go with power.

HMS BULLDOG / BEAGLE by RHBaker Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 3 years ago
I have tended to twin screw arrangements and have settled on (hull lengths range from 30 - 48") MabuchI 545 motors, that have a speed of around 5500 rpm, direct driven to 45 MM 3 bladed props. These have an operating range of between 2 - 7000 rpm according to supplier. At 12 volts the vessels are overpowered, but when sailing on congested waters this is a definite attribute! I am happy with this arrangement as can throttle back to achieve a more realistic scale speed. Not sure if this helps with your lifeboat, but my 30" RNLI Tyne class performs well with this set up.