Hi Boaty, Apparently so! 😊 There was some discussion about this here a little while ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasholm_Park "Events Naval Warfare event The Naval Warfare event, Battle of Peasholm, has been played out for half an hour three times a week during the summer season for over 80 years. The model boats used are mostly man powered earning the fleet the title of "The smallest manned navy in the world". All the boats were man powered, until 1929, when electricity was introduced, and now only the larger boats need to be steered by council employees. In the early days, the models were First World War battleships and a U-boat. Then, after the Second World War, the fleet was replaced with new vessels and the battle that was recreated was the Battle of the River Plate." http://www.discoveryorkshirecoast.com/Scarborough-Naval-Warf... Pics attached!😉 Cheers Doug 😎 (Don't get shot😡)
This fantastic model was scratch built by John of the Solent Radio Controlled Model Boat Club. Here it is seen sailing in light winds on Setley Pond in the New Forest, UK. She took about a year to construct and is now into the third year of sailing. The boat is based on the period 1929/34 when "Bobby" Somerset owned her, he won the Fastnet race twice and finished second once, infact she is the only boat to win the Fastnet three times. She is based on the river Hamble and is owned by Dauntseys school in Wiltshire and is regularly raced by the pupils there. The model is approximately 1:15 scale. In 2013 the full size Jolie Brise celebrated the centenary anniversary of her construction by the Paumelle yard in Le Havre in 1913. The world famous, gaff-rigged pilot cutter was the last boat to carry the royal mail under sail and has won the Fastnet Race three times, including the inaugural race in 1925. In 2015 and 2016 she was the overall winner of the Tall Ships Races. Jolie Brise is owned, maintained and sailed by the pupils of Dauntsey's School. For more information about Jolie Brise go to, www.joliebrise.com (apologies...just seen this vid was already posted by Dave M😁)
I am not sure from your original question if you were asking about sizing of conductors or on which type of conductor/insulation was the most suitable. The previous contributors have covered the size issue and here are a few thoughts on other features. From your comments it looked to me you were interested in having wiring in models you wanted to be around for a long time which is quite likely. I think my fireboat is over 50 years old now and is still stuck to gether with the original glue, but has had a number of up dates to its internals from very messy diesel to brushed dc motors. Most reasonably priced wiring is made from copper or tin coated copper wire if you need to do a lot of soldering, with pvc insulation, if pvc is irradiated this gives it a longer life. As far as I can see from my house wiring, so long as it is not flexed, ordinary pvc insulation lasts a long time, but does become brittle. In the defence/aerospace business since the second world war there have been various exotic systems used ( up until the end of the war rubber was the general insulator which did not last very long until it perished ). Various ones being silicone rubber internal insolators covered with glass fibre woven covers, this is horrible stuff to deal with when stripping, vynel with a woven nylon covering being another. With the advent of irradiated pvc and ptfe these were totally replaced. Ptfe is a very good insulator and is very stable and not attacked by any common liquids or solvents. Due to its good insulating properties the thickness of casing can be very thin, the problem with it is it is difficult to strip so you have to have a good pair of strippers. Another option in a model boat installation would be to use varnised copper wire like that used in various electrical items, solenoids, transformers etc. then stick this down on to a bed of epoxy resin and then add an extra coat, a bit like a fitted p.c.b. I have never done it but if it was well done could look quite interesting. If the radio side is a major consideration the above is not very applicable as, as has been said by others the choice is largely decided by the equipment you acquire.
My knowledge of "elecy" stuff is pretty limited, but I see that the model boat world (excluding racing types) is in the dark ages compared to planes, helis, cars etc when it comes to motors, batteries etc We have to reply a lot on testing, fiddling etc when it comes to gettingn a fast electric set up, in a scale heavy old wood boat😁 as there isnt much info out there. I tried testing over a long time, with one boat inparticular, and was lucky enough to have te use of eagle tree data logging, so could measure watts, amps, gps speed, voltage drop and so on, and analyse the resultsd on graphs etc back home on the pc. Its amazing to see that sometime s the fastest set up isnt always the best when you compare run time, amp draw, heat, voltage draw etc, and what "looks fast" sometimes isnt as fast as you thought😊 This boat for example, 6kg, ply construction will do 25mph, after that torque roll is kicking in, and it want to roll over. I tested props over a long time, using cheap plastic "X" props, and with the results was then able to get a more efficient and visually pleasing brass cleaver 3 blade one. Ranging from 50mm to 55mm the amp draw went from 45a to 90a using same batteries!, and teh highest amp draw prop didnt produce the fastest speed, all interesting stuff. The boat is similar to the OP perkassa. I also went from direct drive, to a geared drive, and can change the characteristics of the boat using different cheap gears, eg., small lake, dont need top speed, so change to acceleration, big lake, lets give up acceleration and have top speed, and so on👍
Hi just a word to every one I am very impress with such high standard of work on model boats i see around world since i joined the model boats website in 2008 . It give me great pleasure to be on this website ever day and see all the model boat in such great detail and the hard work the goes in to model boats by ever one. Thank you so much for the help with my model boats .many thanks 👍👍 cliff
Hi Dave, many thanks for your answer. I wanted a scale speed of 25-40mh, so much slower than the real speed of that figure. As long as they just about plane I'll be happy. I've been trying to get a Bob's board for ages. My old friend has a few in his loft. He used to make all the display models, aircraft and boats, for Bob's models. My R/C gear at it's earliest is Mini Hex from 1971 or Digimac. I can't get the REP single channel I once had, but which was stolen. I should say that my old Crash Tender (which I really should finish some time 53 years later!) always ran a treat with it's Supermarine Special, using said REP sytem. The Basset-Lowke motor is a permanent magnet type so will probably be OK with an ESC, but I have no idea what sort to use as I don't understand them. All I read seems to suggest that they are either expensive or unreliable. And they need "programming", which totally puts me off! I have no model boat clubs near here, so would just use the local canalised river which has both sides accessible and is rarely used by full sized boats. But at least I don't have to worry about other R/C users. Looks like the world is much the same for old motors after all. Cheers, Martin
Sad to announce the Closure of Model and Hobby World, in Lancaster. They have been here for 28 years and have many modellers who use there services and even just their wit and wisdom. Will be sorely missed. Have a happy retirement. 😭🤐🤔
Some can do fibreglassing as easily as shelling peas. I have fibreglassed 3 models so far and have yet to master the technique. I've spent far too much time sanding the results to make them smooth. For my next project I plan to follow the guidance shown here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujk-wBQDUSk. He talks about 'denatured alchohol' which, in the rest of the English-speaking world is referred to as methylated spirits.
Hi Dave, Thank you. That is a really good point what you wrote. I forward it to the owner of the website. He is my friend and he made the drawings after a lots of research in Hungary, Austria and Croatia. In some cases in Italy. Quick help: http://www.kriegsmarine.at/ I was have some scale models like on the website. One of them is in my harbour, and you can find it among the For Sale/Wanted that is the 1st World War Torpeedoboat.That is the TB XI, but I have the TB IV as well. Above this I have some drawings Nostalgianavy here in the UK.
Hi Dave, The 1/12 Bluebird is brushless (all running gear from PMB), as it's made from balsa, I've waterproofed everything with sanding sealer inside & out. To be honest I was planning on taking it to quiet stretches of the Leeds/Liverpool canal as I didn't think any scale model boat clubs would want anything to do with my boat, but I will have a look at what clubs there are locally. The 1/4.2 will be IC powered, I want it to reach a scale speed of 300mph so if I can hit 75mph in the real world with it I'll be very happy. I hope if I can keep it light enough a couple of Tiger King S27 Evo's will get me there. I've emailed PMB as they don't have any stock at the moment, to see when they are due some in, but I've not received a reply yet. Plan is to buy 1 engine initially so I can plan the layout & while I'm carrying on with the build I was going to drop it into this eBay hull to see how it performs. I have a couple of Enya 40ss motors, I'm going to try one in the Short Stuff & see how it goes. I can't cope sitting at home watching the telly, I like to keep busy😎 Cheers Wayne
Why not just use a hollow mast or masts.if a taper is needed use fishing rod sections.All sorts of sizes available. Harrisons Rods in Liverpool are actually now catering to the model world. If you Google them you can find all their details. Carbon cloth , resins atc also available from them A phone call will get you what you want Nice people to deal with Ps their regular cloth is already resined but they can obtain plain cloth if you ask them very nicely LOL 👍 😁
Dear all, Please forgive the ramblings of a pensioner if l have overstepped the mark and the following should have been completed by someone such as Jarvo or Akelatheleader! However, here goes. Upon my arrival l was directed to the parking area by members of the local Air Training Corps. The entry fee was a very reasonable £5.00. The venue, a spacious exhibition hall was well laid out, thought having been given to wheelchair users such as myself. Access was made easy and uninhibited. First stall to greet you as you entered was Deans Marine. Well adorned with kits, including their very latest offerings not as yet in full production. Opposite was the display of club vessels owned by members of the hosts, CADMA. Excellent examples of the model builders art festooned the display, two l noted in particular were an open steam launch, complete with live steam propulsion and a Herring Drifter WY17 which paid respectful homage, to our beleaguered fishermen. Then on the rear wall a stand which sold all manner of modelling paraphernalia from mini compressors through modelling knives and table top vices to glues for every purpose. On the next aisle the Goole model boat club had set out their models for general perusal. As with CADMA the quality of exhibits was astonishing! A Police launch was the first to catch my eye not least by the splendid, illuminated array of spot lamps which were very bright and flashing blue beacons to the rear of the cabin. Bedecked in the national Police livery of lime and blue Battenberg the vessel looked very handsome. Then l met "Keith". He had 2 models with him, a "Castle" class Corvette and a 1939 S-Boat. Both models looked to be in the region of 30" in length but the detailing was breathtaking! He said his true passion in boats were the convoy escorts known as Corvettes. He had plagued the staff of "The Corvette Association" and their archives to such a degree they made him an honorary member of the association. A table toward the rear of the room displayed a cluster of large scale submarines. Awesome by their scale and sinister by association. Then came a stall with all manner of live steam associated parts and fittings. Boat fittings in resin, white metal and plastic formed a broad array of scale parts. The last stall sported all manner of scale mouldings and some incredibly detailed hydraulic lifting arms and cranes, everything for the docks and cargo masters stores. One table held a small group of true sailing vessels, propelled only by the world's fourth element. Where skippers of equal skill may win or lose, dependent upon the suit his/her charge is wearing on the day! The bring and buy sale upstairs went briskly and the open bar allowed for sorrows to be drowned when more had been spent than had been intended at the bring and buy. On the same floor the kitchens provided warm meals and hot drinks all at very sensible prices. All in all an excellent, well laid out venue where all levels of mobility were catered for. The models on display were all of the very highest quality, testimony to the diligence and expertise of the modellers themselves. Future shows are definitely worth a visit.
HI Mark, I didn't see the spec sheet, I'll have a look, the fact it cures in 5 mins ( there is also a 30 mins curing version as well) and is resistant to sea water, make this a good contender for model boat making. The smallest tube is 310ml, but even that will go a long way in the model world, with the risk of it outliving it's 6 month shelf life, I have sealed the nozzle on my bottle as best I can, time will tell if it will still be usable beyond this time limit. Paul.
HI Dave, Yes its a TRITON, the kit was started in 1971 by the previous owners father who sadly died last year and his family donated it to me to hopefully finish and sail. The pond yacht was built by a modeler from south Wales, at the end of the 2nd world war. His son who I met at a show at easter and he offerd it to me for free plus some other bits of modeling stuff. The hull is bread and butter construction and the deck is 1/4 inch thick pine. the keel is 10lbs solid lead. but its missing a forward sail, and some rigging, so if anyone knows how it should be rigged please let me know, apparently the steering is controlled by the sails. But thats all new to me. The pictured fire boat is one of two part built models from another donor. plus a couple of kits and loads of parts, hulls of various types. The smallest of which is the Triton, and the biggest the pond yacht at 47 inches long and overall height of 49 inches. I think the total boats that my wife and I have now own is 37, but so far only 13 are ready to use, the rest need repairs or refurbs. I just hope I can keep modelling long enough to finish them all. Arthritis is catching up with me. Thanks Colin.