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The Vosper 46” RAF Crash Tender Kit By Vintage Model Works by Ron Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 1 day ago
1/72nd version of the RAF by Airfix.

MTBs and 'Flowers' by RNinMunich Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 2 days ago
Just ran across this (compared with most others from the era) incredibly sharp photo, (right click the photo then left click 'Show photo' and then'+' and you'll see what I mean by sharp!!😉) apparently (allegedly?) a 'Vosper 70ft Motor Torpedo Boat V-252 at Greenock in January 1942. In the background is the Flower class Corvette HMCS Trillium(K172)' (Which makes me wonder if OUR Trillium served on her!?) + 2 others! Research continues, I have an interest in both types 😉 Cheers Doug 😎

Too Powerful Brushless ? by BOATSHED Admiral   Posted: 10 days ago
I was also told about cutting away the front edge for the same reason, digging in on turn's. I have found on hulls like the Vosper RAF Crash Tenders and MTB hulls they sit on the water on a turn as if they are stuck on the water no roll at all. Also on the Huntsman style hull they also turn a lot better with minimal roll. It was told to me on her the other day that the rudders were meant to be the way they are and there was no need to cut away the leading edge. I have done this for many years now, since the mid 70's and had great results I even put a 10cc engine in a hull rated for 5 to 7.5cc and it was an amazing boat to run. I turned a couple of boats upside down until the rudders were trimmed and then good to turn. I'm glad I have found someone that thinks it's alright to do. 👍😊

Too Powerful Brushless ? by BOATSHED Admiral   Posted: 12 days ago
I always use as smaller rudder as I can get away with. I had been running model boats for many years then one day when on Blackheath pond someone was watching my boat and remarked on how it turned. badly, and I replied that's how it had always turned. The guy had a boat the same as mine it was a MFA Spearfish, He asked if he could swap rudders on my boat and try his on my boat so that's what I done and it performed much better on the water. I then tried it on my Vosper RAF Crash Tender and it just stuck to the water on any turn tight or wide. So I have done this ever since. On my Huntsman I had turned it over several times before trying this so I done the same on this and once again it was a lot better turning and didn't turn over. I don't like using large rudders if I cannot get one small enough for what I wan't I will get one and then cut it down. We used to race 5 or 6 boats on the water at a time and always needed to turn tight turns to get round the pond. Even watching Power Boat racing on the telly in the past they make tight turns to get round. I have a Probaot Miss Geico tunnel hull and straight from the box brand new the rudder on that has no leading edge and I can turn that flat out on the water with no roll at all. I suppose I am a speed freak and it has worked fine for me. Even if it is the wrong thing to do. The small avatar picture on my posts is a boat I have in Norfolk. This has a 1960 Volvo Penta outdrive probably one of the earliest one's made and that doesn't like to turn on 3/4 throttle without the engine revs dropping and digging in on a turn. I have tried this when out on open water up there. Don't try it now as got a warning from the Norfolk River Constabulary. Don't want to loose my river licence.

The Vosper 46” RAF Crash Tender Kit By Vintage Model Works by Ron Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 14 days ago
I really like your work done on this boat. How did you go about building it from scratch? By scratch, does this mean making all the parts? I built the 1/72 Airfix kit painting it like you have here. I like that you have also included the side hatch where the wounded could be transported on stretchers. I will send some photos of my kit, but I ‘d enjoy seeing more of this boat you made. Best regards, Ron

RE ads90's Vosper Firefloat by boaty Commander   Posted: 24 days ago
Thanks for your reply and its very interesting. Was your model based on an advanced Fire Float that little was known about outside of military circles? Bridlington is only a short distance from RAF Elvington which was a bomber base in WW2. In the 1950s it became a V Bomber base and logically it would need to have improved marine rescue facilities to deal with aircraft that had ditched in the North Sea. It could be that your boat was built to fulfil this role and there may be a possibility that other Fire Floats may have been constructed for similar uses but not disclosed. 😁😁😁. Boaty

RE ads90's Vosper Firefloat by Dave M Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 24 days ago
Hi ads Yes you are correct in that only the Mark2 was accepted by the RAF and were Nos 93 and 94. The Mk1 was the initial design but was not considered suitable for purpose hence the modification to the MK2. I do believe your model was built by a keen modeller who took or built a hull and placed his own top details based on the Crash Tender and similar designs from the period. I did find reference to Bridlington MCU and this corresponds with the number on your model https://www.pprune.org/archive/index.php/t-312866.html They were active in 1969 and used Pinnace which does rather tie in with the front wheelhouse of your model. I have a book somewhere that lists all the MCU details and when I find it I will see what I can find.

RE ads90's Vosper Firefloat by ads90 Commander   Posted: 24 days ago
Dave There were only 2 Mk 2 Firefloats built, No.'s 93 and 94 and they had a very different hull at the stern to what my model has. The superstructure could have been modified quite easily but certainly not the hull, so I am certain that it is not one of them. The stern is very reminiscent of the 'Fairmile' design but I have looked at these but nowt turned up. The number on the side of mine '1104' is I believe related to the Marine Craft Unit 1104 at Bridlington which possibly also may have been an ASR.

RE ads90's Vosper Firefloat by boaty Commander   Posted: 25 days ago
I have done a bit of research into the possibility of it being a Mark 1 fire float but have not as yet come up with anything. I have a theory about this boat as when the Mark 2 fire floats were "disposed of" around 1958 there is very little detail of what became of them. Could one or both of them have undergone some modifications with the extension to the cabins etc but it was never recorded, ie not on historical records of R.A.F launches. Boaty😁

RE ads90's Vosper Firefloat by ads90 Commander   Posted: 26 days ago
Many thanks Dave and all. The reason I think it was a kit is because of the superstructure and deck detailing which you cannot see on my photos. All of the window frames have raised rivets around them and the deck has deck raised deck strips. As a modeller I know that these can be recreated but they look too perfectly spaced, etc. Many thanks for looking through your back catalogues Dave. Terry was very helpful and sent me quite a bit of information - he is a font of knowledge. My boat is well used at our pond at Eastrop, Basingstoke where I am the Secretary and Treasurer of the model boat club. Every couple of years I do have to give the hull a rub down and re-spray as being made from balsa and when running fast, the vibration does tend to crack the hull along the panel joint lines, but it is an easy fix and I try not to abuse it as it is precious to me.

RE ads90's Vosper Firefloat by Dave M Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 26 days ago
Hi Selwyn The book has outline drawings so only really of use to identify the types. What exactly are you hoping to build?

RE ads90's Vosper Firefloat by SelwynWilliams Admiral   Posted: 26 days ago
do you have any sea plane tender ones?

RE ads90's Vosper Firefloat by Dave M Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 26 days ago
Hi ads I have Terry Holtham's RAF Marine Craft Drawings book. Your model may well be the MK1 version, and if so never saw service as it was never accepted by the RAF. The wheelhouse is clearly from a Sea Plane tender and many were converted to Firefloats. I can find no kits marketed from the 1950's in my extensive magazine collection, so suspect this was a nice copy be a keen modeller from the 1960's. Its a nice looking model and I am sure it attracts lots of attention whenever you manage to sail.

RE ads90's Vosper Firefloat by RNinMunich Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 26 days ago
Hi ads, maybe you can find some info about her or a sister ship here, http://www.rafboats.co.uk/ Happy browsing, cheers Doug 😎

Vosper Firefloat by ads90 Commander   Posted: 26 days ago
[Score: 8/10] 33"/1000g Vosper Firefloat Capable of 12mph and a runtime of 15mins Single Propellor (2 Blade X Type 40mm) Direct Drive to a Graupner 600 Turbo (2 Blade X Type) Powered by NiMH (7.2v) 4Amp/h Batteries Controlled Through Torpedo 30 Amp (10Amps) ESC - Comments: This is one of my oldest and favourite boats - as you can see it is a Fireboat but it is not a Vosper Mk 2. It was kit built at one time but I haven't been able to track down what it is. Is like a Vosper Firefloat Mk.2 but It Is different. The bridge section of my boat is different being longer, the mid-ship section having three windows in lieu of two and the stern is completely different in profile. I first wrote about my boat on the Model Fireboat Website back in 2010 and asked for any help in identification but despite lots of good comment but I was none the wiser. I contacted Terry Holtham who is an acknowledged expert in RAF Marine craft having written many books and he provided me with a lot of information and said "It bears an uncanny resemblance to the drawing I received which was an official Vosper drawing but not with a number or date I have presumed it to be what I believe is the Mk 1 version of the 46ft Firefloat". However this is not definitive and I still have no real answer. Great fast little boat that 'turns on a sixpence' though.