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>> Home > Forum > Boat Specific Chit Chat! > de Mist Naval Tug
de Mist Naval Tug
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Joburg-sailor
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Forum Posts: 11
29th Dec 2018 10:16  
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Another one of those "What is it?" posts!
"de Mist" was a Naval Tug in Simonstown naval dockyard. Decommissioned about 2 years ago and awaiting "disposal" when she sank at her mooring 2 months ago. Salvaged by the SA Navy a week or two ago. Does anybody have any information on if she was locally built (South Africa) or an import. In the absence of any specific info would there be a plan available for a similar looking boat somewhere?
Appreciate any advice.


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Glyn
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Forum Posts: 2
30th Dec 2018 13:53  
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Hi Joburg-sailor! De Mist was built by Dorbyl, Durban, in 1978. Powered by two 8-cylinder Mirrlees Blackstone diesel engines with twin Voith-Schneider propulsion units. No idea if plans are available of this specific tug, but I do have some of similar vessels that were built by the same company for SAR&H in 1980 that are still in service (but probably nearing their service lives by now). Regards, Glyn

Joburg-sailor
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Forum Posts: 11
31st Dec 2018 15:05  
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Hi Glynn
Thanks for your response. I was hoping that the dreaded words "Voith Schneider" would not come up as I have no way to engineer or buy a VSP (even looked in "Graupner" site but no info on buying units and I think it will break the pensioners bank anyway!
This is my first contemplated tug build so would be interested if the model tug Guys would perhaps advise what they do when the dreaded 2 words come up...do they cheat a little below the surface and substitute other propulsion sources when a VSP would be "true scale"?
Glynn, what Dorbyl built SA tugs do you have knowledge off that are not VSP equipped? I think the other older Simonstown Naval tug is the "de Nuys" but I presume she will also be Voith Schneider Propeller driven.
Regards and Happy New Year to you and all on MB's.

Joburg-sailor
(Sub-Lieutenant)





Forum Posts: 11
7th Jan 2019 10:30  
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As I have made no progress on finding any drawings of the De Mist naval harbour tug ex Simonstown, and as kindly advised by Glyn as having been built by Dorbyl in Durban with VS propulsion, I am now switching my attention to the old steam tugs of the the late 50's and 60's...particularly the JR More (built 1961) that is currently decaying in the Durban Maritime Museum. Again I am on the hunt for drawings that must be more easily available judging by the number of models build of this vessel. She had twin props (rather than Voith Schneider or Schottel) which is something that I can handle!
Any help or advice gratefully accepted.

Glyn
(Seaman)





Forum Posts: 2
7th Jan 2019 10:46  
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Hi again! Have you tried contacting the Durban Model Boat Club? On their Facebook page they appear to have at least one model of an old SAR&H steam tug (not sure which one). They'd probably be able to assist with sourcing plans. Regards, Glyn

RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 2531
7th Jan 2019 11:33  
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Hi Tertius,
Looks like the closest you're gonna get is one of her sister ships; the FC Sturrock.
https://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/Model-Marine-P...
There was a build article of using these plans to build the JR More in Model Boats in 2012.
https://www.modelboats.co.uk/albums/member_photo.asp?a=16223...
Another possible source
https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/f-c-sturrock-plan-mm148...

The guy who built it (Ralph Wilmot) also described it on this site back then.
Cheers, Doug 😎


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 Cheers Doug
RNinMunich
(Fleet Admiral!)





Forum Posts: 2531
7th Jan 2019 11:42  
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Here's the link to Ralph's posts on this site about the JR More.
https://model-boats.com/tags/durban-museum

No posts from him since Oct 2017, hope he's OK 😲
Doug 😎
Photos of original here
https://www.google.com/search?q=J.R.+More&client=firefox-b&t...


Young at heart - slightly older in other places 😉 Cheers Doug
Joburg-sailor
(Sub-Lieutenant)





Forum Posts: 11
9th Jan 2019 07:29  
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Thanks for info Doug. Unfortunately several of the websites get error messages or have dropped access to the address.
I think the Sturrock plans route seems to be the way to go (a pricey plan though for our horrendous currency exchange rate!) and was the source of the Ralph Wilmot model. Looking at some of the pics of the rudder layout when she was on the hard pending being put into the Maritime Museum, she had twin props and twin rudders...Sturrock didn't have twin rudders so obviously was built to the Sturrock plan. I have sent off a few emails and await any further guidance/info before I make any decisions.
Thanks Glyn re Durban Club. I have mailed a member too.

Joburg-sailor
(Sub-Lieutenant)





Forum Posts: 11
16th Jan 2019 17:18  
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Hurray!! Located and received some plan scans for the "JR More" tug from an ex South African now living in the UK! Delighted! Apart from a few misaligned scans that loose some pretty important info for the stern, I have a lot to work from.
The "JR" was built by Ferguson Brothers, Glasgow in 1961. 176.3ft LOA, displacement 1654.94 tonnes. She was the last oil fired steam tug in service in any South African port. Decommissioned in 1982. Now a poorly maintained (no money!) exhibit in the Durban Maritime Museum.


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