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Aeronaut Pilot Boat

Steve. Since my last message, I have made progress, purchased a kit from . Started building hull just before Xmas and as you mentioned, you need to have patience to get it right. Before going to far, I am planning how to set up the Motors and the Speed controller. I have got a Viper Marine 25 ESC and 2 Motors (380's). Looking back at some photos of yours, it looks as you have 2 Speed Controllers. I am having problems in getting the ESC to talk to the 2 Motors. Do I need to have a second ESC to operate the 2 Motors? How would this be set up through my Hobbyking Controller? Would appreciate some clarity of my thinking. Best Wishes. Ron👍😁

5 years ago by RonW

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internet sales

Hi Doug, Boanno. Or happy New year. I have been looking at HK and for Boats but had to go to SLEC for aircraft bits. it cost in postage but good quality.

5 years ago by Wingcoax

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Steam Whistle!

Hi JBRCfloats, I got the figures for the Brooklyn. From in the UK! http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/graupner_crew.html After shipping they come to about $10.00 a piece! I have about 5 on the Brooklyn. I paint their hardhats blue. And leave one figure with white hardhat. As an indicator he's the Captain! Regards, Ed

6 years ago by figtree7nts

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Brushless motors (again)

Again, as not wanting to nick someone else's thread. Huntsman 31 currently has a geared (belt) brushed motor which was probably quite a good spec. many years ago. I don't remember how quick it was but having watched brushless boats running this morning in Southsea I have decided now is the time for change before I start painting. I've been reading various threads and gleaned some info but it is still a minefield. Whilst this boat (original) is twin screw I am not yet ready to go that far so will stay single screw. A thread suggested 3639 -1100KV which is fine as a spec. but there are a zillion different makes and models for that spec. seem to offer 6 or 8 so I am looking for more specific advise for make and model of each piece of the power system...motor, ESC, battery, charger. I'm not going to say 'money no object' just that I don't 'need' to buy bottom spec. I suspect there will be as many different suggestions as 'Cornwall' have motor makes but something good will come out of it. Many thanks Steve

6 years ago by steve-d

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VOSPER 46'' Crash Tender

Actually 4 pole , "Graupner HPD 2920-4000 High-end brushless motor Particularly suitable for: MiniMono, MiniHydro, MiniCats, MiniHydroplanes, aircraft with wingspan up to 1 m, off-road and on-road 1:12 Features ?Special CNC-machined housing for maximum heat dissipation ?High-efficiency 4-pole 12-slot brushless motor ?High-performance rotor with Kevlar reinforcement ?High-purity copper coils for optimised conductivity ?Extremely strong sintered neodymium magnets ?Intense torque at low weight Specification Operating voltage range : 4,2-16,8 V No-load speed: 29600 U/min All-up weight, approx. : 90 g Free shaft length: 10 mm Recommended controller: Navy V75 G7257 Output : 650 W Number of poles: 4 Permissible motor direction : R und L Nominal voltage: 7,4 V Case length: 30 mm Shaft diameter: 4 mm Case diameter: 29 mm Revolutions/Volt: 4000 " Taken from one Google, first response at Boats!😉 Note. 650W, Nominal voltage 7.4V. No wonder it's a bit quick on 11.1V 😲 Cheers, Doug 😎

6 years ago by RNinMunich

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Plimsoll Line

Well even the LWL, but the point is..... Is the method to put the boat in the bath, mark a couple of pencil lines both sides then, after drying, stick some white line tape on from ? It sounds too easy............... I have looked in this list and the boat related thread but cannot find an example. Cheers. NPJ

6 years ago by NPJ

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Which motor

Hi Ed and Colin, thanks for your promp replies in helping me decide. Ihad sort of come to the same conclusion but reassurance from experienced sailors is always welcome. Iwill put an order in to tomorrow morning. Cheers. Neil . Live long and prosper.

6 years ago by Helineil

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Sea Queen

sidley70, you can use anything you like really. Subtle, rather than flash for a boat like a Sea Queen. We didn't have much flash in those days! Except for front wing ornaments for Mk 2 Consuls if you look at any period advertising it will probably have the original fittings shown on any pictures. Whilst Mersey Marine (THE period fittings company) are sadly no more, there are basic fittings available from , etc. I also saw quite a few on ebay, but do yourself a favour and have a look on the Modelling Timbers website....http://www.modellingtimbers.co.uk/1.html The guy who runs it is an absolute gentleman and you will not find better quality or lower prices anywhere. Despite coming from the isle of man his return postage is excellent. He is very friendly on the phone too. If he doesn't have it, you can also get excellent quality, service and prices from RBModels in Poland. I have bought very good model railway stuff from them, but I noticed that they also do model boat stuff. Being a tight wad I tend to make all mine that I can't get from Modelling timbers. Cheers, Martin

6 years ago by Westquay

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advise required

Hi all and thanks to Ron and Doug I have not forgotten about the TGY-i6 set and have looked at the suggestions from Ron. I looked at a lot of stuff it can be a bit of mine field, I have fond this at Servo, Batteries, Charger & 15A ESC This pack provides the radio control unit and all items necessary to complete an RC boat kit. Certain models may need a motor Contents: 2-Channel transmitter Reflex Pro 3.1 2.4GHZ 5-Channel receiver, CS-3 steering servo (3kg/cm force) Transmitter batteries, 7.2v/2100mAh drive battery 15Amp Marine Electronic Speed Controller Plug charger Multi-lingual instructions Part No: CMBRCP15 I think this may be the way for me to go as it seem to have all the things I need to learn about in the one package, I know I may have to up grade some parts but for the first timer I think it would do your opinions would be much appreciated

6 years ago by teejay

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Its good day, its a bad , its a great Day

Hi all good stuff that I order arrived quicker than expected, bad day one of the props the wrong size good day quick phone call to sorted. great day I was getting a bit worried out sailing the boats I am making as it looked like I would have to go in Edinburgh or Glasgow to sail them, so last night I fired an email of to Falkirk trust who look after the kelpies and the helix park with has a large lagoon I expected a no go as far as sailing the boats, so great news they said ok no caveat's or conditions except that boats that use fuel are not allowed, and if their are no other organised events on, So after reading so much on the site about clubs folding and boating lakes closing and not been looked after and also the rarity of boat sites in Scotland we now have a site that is easy to get too right next to the motorway that goes for Glasgow Edinburgh and even Perth would to be to far. And I the lucky boy live at its front door so next job after the boat is a trailer for the mobility scooter to carry the boats I think someone did something with a golfing trolley so its praise your god and pass the battery charger , but it is good that the Falkirk community trust is going to let boats on the lagoon

6 years ago by teejay

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TRIUMPH (CG-52301) USCG Type F MLB

Laser cut kit from Barracuda RC Boats, N Carolina, USA. Baltic birch plywood false keel, ribs/frames, hull sheathing, deck and cabins. No formal plans; I was able to source a handful of B&W archival photos from the USCG website. Fortunately I was able to procure a motherload of archival photos and a few hard to read layout drawings from Mr. Timothy Dring, LCDR, USN (Ret.). He is co-author of "American Coastal Rescue Craft", which is the "bible" if you will, of such. I do sometimes thank the internet. I am certain that without his assistance, my efforts on this wouldn't have been as enjoyable. The kit was also void of fittings, which I was aware of prior to purchase, so I invested in a 3D printer. That I've used to a limited degree, due to searching for parts in the correct file format is mind-numbing! I have globally sourced fittings; USA, UK, ASIA. As a matter of fact, the searchlights I got from this Model Boat Shop were 3D printed, and I was able to fit 5mm LEDs into them. I'd like to get a couple more and put some superbright 12v LED drone lamps in them for use on my 35" towboat. Many deck fittings are handmade when possible, the cleats and fairleads are from Cornwall Boats, UK. (Very reasonable & diverse source, if you didn't already know.) I try to keep wood natural when detail allows it, as I never have enjoyed painting over natural grain. Her decks are covered with 1/16" scribed basswood sheathing from earthandtree.com, which is normally used for wainscoting dollhouse walls. All my boats that have wood decks are covered with scribed sheathing; I feel it makes 'em look "sexy". Believe it or not, the idea for wainscoting came from finding 3/16" at Hobby Lobby's dollhouse department. A couple of feet x 3.5" was about $16, so I found a less expensive source that also had more selections (earthandtree.com) The rail stanchions are 3/16" square dowels with 2 corners rounded over on the Dremel router table. Leaving their base square, I fit a square peg into a round hole with no glue to facilitate removal, and also for ease of replacing broken ones, which is inevitable. The rail is 1/16" brass rod that also is readily removable. The stern rail is stationary on the lower half, and the chain & wire stanchions are removable for towing ops. The deck coamings and knuckle are African mahogany strips, other mahogany accents came from leftovers of a prior build. I also try on all my boats, to incorporate vintage leftover scribed sheathing salvaged from my late Father's builds, so I know he's got a part in my builds. Note-the raised deck section between the aft ladder trunk and towing bit is actually a laminated deckhouse he made for the Frigate Essex. Unfortunately, he was unable to build that kit due to Alzheimer's disease in his latter years. (I blame that mostly on the hazardous fumes from the airplane "dope" & glue he used when building RC planes in the 60s & 70s.) I use polyurethane instead of resin due to COPD, 37 yrs of smoking, I quit 2.5 yrs ago. The driveline consists of: 775 Johnson DC main (3500 RPM@12V), Harbor Models 4mm x 14" shaft w/brass stuffing box, Raboesch 75mm 5-blade brass wheel (not OEM), 5mm U-joint couplers, Dimart 320A fan-cooled ESC. Handmade wooden teardrop rudder on a 3/8" sternpost, 1/4" tiller arm steered by a Halcion sail winch servo and cable system. Flysky 6 channel. The nav lights and other illumination are Lighthouse 9v LEDs, also a GoolRC Receiver controlled flashing blue Law Enforcement light. Obviously, I put the cart before the horse and completed the topsides and below deck before finishing the outer hull, but the Wx and season change dictated such. Can't wait for Spring!

6 years ago by circle43nautical

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34'' sea commander Aerokits kit

Hi garth, Cornwall Model Boats advertise one http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/aerokits-sea-commander.html They have an excellent reputation for delivery, service and technical help 👍👍👍 Go there! or here- https://www.howesmodels.co.uk/product/Aerokits%20Sea%20Commander%2034in%20Cabin%20Cruiser%20with%20Fittings%20Set%20(C2001) Howes might be cheaper !? Cheers Doug

7 years ago by RNinMunich

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Tamco Tx/Rx

Hi Dave, Photo is from site. Nick say he's using the one on the left. Here's the spec 😎

7 years ago by RNinMunich

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Precedent Perkasa

Hi Dave Power train installed and working. I am currently using 55mm 3 bladed brass props supplied by Jotika (Propshop and haven't bothered to reply to my telephone and emails). Chris only managed a short video and I didn't push the speed due to an open hull and rough water, hence the stills. Looking promising so far and I will keep in touch as the build progresses. Steve

8 years ago by cormorant

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Precedent Perkasa

Dave The coupling I have been advised to use is the rubber one, due to the speed of the motor. Ordinary universal couplings won't be strong enough. When I got the boat, the original inserts (for universal joint couplings) were screwed on to the shafts, but neither the existing shafts or the inserts can be used with rubber couplings, as these are only threaded metric. I seem to have three options:- 1. Replace the tubes and shafts which would mean cutting big holes in the hull. 2. Re-threading the shafts to metric to take an appropriate sized rubber coupling. 3. Use Raboesch needle couplings which you can see here - http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/raboesch-couplings.html Malcolm, at , initially suggested option 2 but then suggested option 3. He did say that the needle couplings were suited to i/c, but said the coupling itself was enclosed and unlike universals, not prone to expanding and breaking. Hope this makes more sense? Steve

8 years ago by cormorant

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Precedent Perkasa

Hi Dave I am having trouble coupling the motors to the shafts, due to the shafts being threaded BA. According to rubber couplings are only threaded metric, so unless I re-thread or change the tubes I can't use them. However, they have suggested I use Raboesch Needle Couplings as an alternative. What do you think? Steve

8 years ago by cormorant

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PS Waverley

Yes I actually got the Graupner Glasgow from last year but not finished yet due to bad health. Thanks anyway.......Peter

8 years ago by Peter501

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Westbourne Model Centre

Hi guys, I'm new to model boats, but have built and flown aircraft for years - never had a problem with ordering parts online, even from the US or China. I ordered a MFA torpedo motor and a prop shaft (standard fare for a shop catering to the model boat trade?). 3 weeks on, and still waiting - I too have had the same excuses, about having had to wait for parts to come in, "it's been posted, give it a few days" etc Etc. I've had enough of the vagueness as to when it was posted, the obvious lies and ignorance of calls and emails. I have reported to PayPal, which luckily means I'll get my money back. These jokers shouldn't be in business, and are to me an insult to the modelling community. I will take Vosper's advice and try in future.....!

8 years ago by robbo

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Is westbournemodel@ co serious?

I myself am sold on Boats Ltd, as a matter of fact my next boat will be purchased from them. I find they have a large selection of kits! Finally my gnomes are getting some relief, they've been on duty for over a month, ha ha.

8 years ago by figtree7nts

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Is westbournemodel@ co serious?

What remains to be said? "do what it says on the tin" you give them money they give you the goods. Simple effective and reliable. I just ordered some tubing ( had to fix my petrol strimmer) arrived 2 days after ordering problem solved grass MUCH shorter. Plus I had the joy of talking to my dream girl Sam!!!!!

8 years ago by Haverlock

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Is westbournemodel@ co serious?

Yep Cornwall are excellent as are model boat bits. One thing with those is they will make new shafts for your aged models to the spec you want if you don't have the facilities yourself. Saves changing the whole thing.Ordered couplings Monday came today (Wednesday).

8 years ago by Derek

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Is westbournemodel@ co serious?

If you use Cornwall models don't try and chat up my dream girl ~laughs~ I to would send anyone there to buy stuff!!

8 years ago by Haverlock

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Air Brush

Gentlemen. Thank you for your advice. Martin, I note your last comment and I have spotted an Ajax Large Compressor with Tank AS186 at for £100. For an extra £19 it seems it comes complete with air brush and hose. What do you think? Steve

8 years ago by cormorant

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Is westbournemodel@ co serious?

HI Dave, your lucky, there are hundreds of disappointed modelers on here, almost all have lost money trying to get some answers from them, even complaints to trading standards, legal stuff etc, I use cornwall model boats, deans and unfortunatley internet buying, we are losing modelshops and people like westbourne are not making it any easier, my nearest shop is a 3hour 80 mile round trip Mark

8 years ago by jarvo

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1'' plastic props

also have 2mm threaded ones starting at 20mm 3 bladed. Do as I said before, plug,drill, glue or it could get expensive.

8 years ago by Derek

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fittings

Cornwall Model Boats have a good supply of fittings but the most authentic fittings for a model such as Sea Queen may be from Reade Models. Not sure how to do a link on here but this is the page... http://www.reademodels.com

9 years ago by ianed57

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Robbe Dusseldorf 1.25 In Excellent Condition

Absolutely In really excellent condition,sailed approx 4-5 times,purchased In April from . Length 1107mm Width 250 mm. 2 Direct motors Will need 1 servo & pump for monitors. Will need Rx & Batt to sail £300

9 years ago by ColinJ

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billings sea star

For those who have or built the sea star can anybody help find the large scale plans. I have tried and advertised in both model boats and marine modelling and no replies. please please can anyone help. Hobnob.

9 years ago by tduggan

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Thames River Workboat from Jim Pottinger plans

Afternoon, ( morning here in Ca. )... No caulking, painted the plank sides black; Got the plans from .. She has sailed, has an MFA 500 motor. I wish I could post more than 4 photo's ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7uLQBrU8Fg

10 years ago by Tim B

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Billings Vanadis schooner

I am Interested to know If anyone has built the Billings Vanadis schooner, I have just bought one from , I have cast the lead for the keel ballast and have two Hitec drum winch servos ready to Install I am now waiting for the geared motor & shaft before I can go any further cheers Bob

10 years ago by Northumbrian

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Billing St Canute

HI Alan. Still a bit of a novice especially at the building, built a model slipway envoy about 3 years ago but thats it,I have already got the kit for it got it from today, the motor is mfa 540, mtroniks esc, and universal joint,when you photo marked 2 do you mean the second one of the pictures

11 years ago by ColinJ

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Billings Boat conversion

Hi I believe you can buy the Coast Guard version on line (Cornwall Model Boats etc). The basic structure is identical but you will need to modify to the Waveney layout and colour scheme. My friend has one he built so I know it can be done. Pictures of both models attached. Also pic of smaller version of Coast Guard (non sailing)

12 years ago by Dave M

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48'' Crash Tender

Mark, A good motor, but really for aircraft,i.e. does not have watercooling...look at watercooled brushless with the same company, the ESC is the same as mine, I use a large standard rudder purchased from and a 50mm two blade prop NOT an X speed. I had a three blade 60mm brass prop on originally, that worked fine until I lost it in the lake, so you have a bit of a choice

12 years ago by Rookysailor

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Model shop location

To be honest, the number of model boat orientated bits is limited, a few shops "sell bits" but nothinh substantial. the majority now perfer to seel via mail order. "SHG" is a good one to look at, they have a decent web/shop site and based in Staffordshire. "Model boat bits", is another based in Telford. "Marks model boats" [MMB], is based in South Wales . Of course there are many many other online stores, Cornwall Model Boats, Westbourne model centre, Model Dockyard,Model Slipway, Howes models. if you are just after some drive motors or servo's then try Maplins, they sell MFA motors, MFA geared motors and normal size servo motors at competative prices. The above is not ALL the stores about, but just some of the ones I can remember and use frequently myself for various bits and bobs.

12 years ago by Gregg

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Scale brass fittings

HI Gregg Good spot. 😀 Have bought these (RB) from Cornwall Model Boats website. Excellent for scale model sailing ships. Using mine on my Cariad, which is 1:16 scale but they look OK on 1:12 scale models. The real benefit is that they work and are strong enough for practical usage. 😀

12 years ago by Dave M

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RANZOW BUILD

Bought this kit from ,great fun to build and fairly easy ..At the moment I am in the process of motorising all the move-able parts,Crane rotate and lift lower,Thruster and lighting..My mate from work is a spark and shows me how "to do it " electrically or Im lost.The relay is home made and powers the Bow Thrusters if anyone wants to make one of their own I have a few better pictures to show the wiring in detail . Most will know of this site but if not you can get some excellent items for your ship builds with a good quick service my home made relays switches etc come from here http://www.technobotsonline.com/

13 years ago by BASHER

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34'' Fireboat

Chris, Thanks for that supplier info. I will be checking with tomorrow as they too say they have them in stock. Need to buy a prop shaft too in case my existing one, which is 5/32" dia with an unknown thread will not fit the coupling (M4). I didn't really want to remove the existing prop tube from the hull at this time. I have had such a variety of opinions on how to best drive the Fireboat - one shop near to me said only twin props would achieve real performance as this model wooden boat is quite heavy in comparison. However, it stays with single prop! along with other recommendations from Dave and others on this Forum. Peteg

13 years ago by PeteG

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34'' Fireboat

Pete are showing the 3301 speed 600 in stock. not at the special offer price that howes had them though. (not a big fan of the 700 series meself) you can buy online db

13 years ago by dbninja

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34''AEROKITS FIREBOAT

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14 years ago by wavedancer

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Model as bought and tested

HI Mark Thanks for the comments. I am assuming you intend to sail this with twin electric motors. This is as bought and is totally wrong for a Arun class lifeboat. The hull and fiberglass top are the correct shape but this model has been built without any attempt to match the scale or even the top cockpit. All the railings and fittings are 1:24 and should be 1:12. Where the man is sitting on the top should be an open cockpit cut out to the boat deck. I made my own propshafts but you will need two about 18" long. I have yet to decide on prop size but 60 to 65 mm four blade is about scale. I am sourcing mine from Reade Plastics but PropShop and others can also supply. My plans are by Metcalfe Mouldings and are for a 52" hull. I also bought a copy of RNLI Motor Lifeboats - uprated for 2007 by Nicholas Leach (ISBN 13:-978-1-84306-341-4) A£14.99 from Amazon. This gives you details of all RNLI boats including the Arun and will provide the correct number for your chosen model. if you have the same top casting as mine then you are limited in choice with the cabin casting. Not a problem if you intend to make your own top. The first two 52-01 and 02 were prototypes and had different tops and hull in the case of 01. The next 5 54-03 to 07 had a rounded transom - hence the extra 2 foot. My moulded top was modelled on 52-08 to 52-11 (I believe but am not 100% sure) . The new tops Started from 52-11 up to 52-46. I have collected photos of many different Arun's and suggest you base your model on a particular boat for which you have some photos. The Lifeboat Enthusiasts Socy attend several shows during the year and usually have a good pile of photos on offer for a small donation. if you are a complete novice to model making then you will need some help and guidance re suitable glues, fitting etc. if there is a model boat club in your part of Cornwall I suggest you make contact as this will provide you with lots of useful advice and guidance in building your model. At this size it is relatively easy to work on and provided you take your time you should be able to produce a model worthy of your effort. if you have never built any models of any kind before you will definitely need lots of help. in the 1994 January/February edition of Radio Control Boat Modeller (Publisher Argus) there was an article on building an Arun and another article in the Mar/Apr 1991 edition. if you would like to discuss further please send me a private em message. Dave

14 years ago by Dave M

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Restoration Help!

Ive had 2 paint strippers recommended to me and used both with some success. firstly, you can pop to your local shop and buy some "fairy power spray", its an oven cleaner, but perfectly safe on wood or plastic, will lift paint in minutes, and simply wash off with a hose pipe. Secondly there is a "marine paint stripper", called "safe stripper", made by a company called Langley. If you check the boat build blogs, go to my "DGzRS lifeboat blog and you can see pics of the strippers in action before you try, you can also get the web site Addy for the marine stuff if you want some too. As for replacement fittings, there are plenty of model boat stores which have on-line shops, Cornwall model boat supplies, and westbourne models are 2 examples, let alone eBay, SHG have an on-line catalogue of loads of stuff available to order. With reference to you splitting up the servos etc, be careful you don't put them too far away as they only come with short cables and the less connectors you have "near water" the better so to speak, plus id sooner keep all these items close to each other, as you then only need to ensure this section of the hull is fully water tight [ish] and not all of it 100%. incidentally, talking of radio gear, there is a new kit on the market, 2.4 ghz set [which means you don't need any crystals or channel requisites] from a company called "planet" SHG are selling these sets [trans & receiver] for a mere A£30 !, set is also 5 channel too, a bargain if ever there was. Servos are ten a penny on eBay and if prepared to wait for delivery from Hong Kong, less that a fiver each! maybe 4 for 12 quid [ish] in fact.

15 years ago by Gregg