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RoMarin/Krick Dusseldorf Fire Boat.
I have been looking forward to starting this build for some time. It looks like this will be an interesting model to build but mainly I look forward to setting up the 16 channels required to give full function to all of the special features.
The Dusseldorf is one of three identical boats built for use in the Ruhr area of Germany. The boats are equipped for disaster situations, (they must have known I was going to build it)๐. They can be used for ship fires, oil leaks or as a port facility at risk of explosion.
The
fire monitors
, radar, boat crane, lighting and anchor winch will all be working if I can sort out the controls. The
fire monitors
are of particular interest because if I get things right, they will swivel, lift and lower and shoot water. We will see.
As stated in the instructions, I read most of them to see how things looked. I got bored at page six so forgot that bit. The next stage was to check the contents against the bill of materials. There must be 1000 pieces. I checked the large pieces and gave the rest a miss also. Not a good start I hear you cry. You will get used to it.
I proceeded to remove the stand parts and lightly sanded off the connection remains. I assembled it using super glue but I will strengthen the inner corners with Epoxy later. I stuck some draft excluder tape to all of the edges which contact the hull for safety.
Next stage was to trim off the excess material at deck level of the Hull. With 1.5mm thick ABS this is quite a job especially considering that the boat measures around 2.8 Metres all around. I used a Stanley knife to remove the bulk of the material followed by different sized files to trim to size. This process takes a lot of care so that not too much material is removed. The hull has a rather crude sort of line to work to but I think I will put more reliance on my eye and a two foot steel rule. I still have a little filing of the edges to do before I will be completely happy as this edge will be visible on the completed model.
According to the instructions my next stage is to fit the rudders, motors and prop shafts. A job for next week.
5 years ago by MouldBuilder
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Water system for
fire monitors
and ECS
I have laid out all the various components on a building board, not necessarily in the correct orientation/position. The only thing I do know is that water needs to come out of the 4 pipes pointing into the tin.
I have a caravan pump serving as a water scoop (to simulate the water pickup as the boat moves forward) any water going through the system into the tin is piped back into the container under the bench where the pump is.
First thoughts are similar to others in that when the
fire monitors
are operated the water is drawn back through the exhaust pipes and sucks air. To try and solve this I have put some small solenoid valves in the circuit. But first test show that they restrict the flow too much so a larger valve? Or I think the easiest solution would be to put another entry opening in the hull somewhere near the pump just below the water line on the side mid-ship so the pump can be connected directly and be primed when the boat is at a standstill (anybody see problems with this?) I think the only issue I can see is that when the boats in motion it may force water through the pump โ then the monitor result โ drip, drip. I think a properly designed inlet, that when in motion the tendency is to draw the air out of the system and not force water in until the boat is at a standstill when the water should just flow in. I have designed another outlet (not shown) for the exit of the cooling water and hopefully the smoke which has the water coming out of the centre 6mm pipe and the smoke exits through the surrounding space between the 6mm pipe and the 8mm surrounding hole.
(Ignore the black pump, top right, it was a first attempt at a water supply, itโs a car washer pump, but not powerful enough)
4 years ago by mturpin013
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HMT Resolve by Caldercraft
I am currently working on a project that will use 16 channels. 3
fire monitors
rotating, lifting, lowering and shooting water, a raise and lower anchor, a twist, lift and lower crane and all the usual. I am using an eight channel Tx with a further 8 channels using s-bus. We will see.๐
5 years ago by MouldBuilder
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Hi Graham.
Your
fire monitors
are excellent work as they are the first 'working' ones I've seen that actually look like they should. I think that the 'plinth' that it will sit on will present it's own problems with articulation and plumbing but you've cracked the hardest bit ๐
It was a pleasure meeting you at our club exhibition in St.Albans at the weekend and discussing our FireBoats, I know that you travelled a long way to see the show.
I have put a report about the show on the club website with a video that I produced that has some shots of my Fireboat on the water and the Thames Police Launch on display.
Keep up the great work.
Rob.
5 years ago by robbob
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Midships
When the boat was fitted with a diesel there was no deck between the forward cabin and the engine room. This was to allow room for the engine cylinder head. So the first task was to construct a planked deck to fill the space. The opportunity was also taken to add the cabin door detail, complete with dummy hinges and door knobs.
The davit was constructed from plasticard and painted gunmetal grey. Basic height and reach dimensions for this were taken from the plan. Details were added based on photos found on this site.
The scramble nets were made using black woven cord. This was laid out on a piece of scrap plywood using panel pins to space the cord into the desired net structure. The cord crossover joints were then glued with superglue. This didn't work well. The joints were not strong, some having to be re-glued. The dried glue caused a white stain on the cord. This was disguised with permanent black marker pen. A bigger issue was that the cord had absorbed the glue which wicked along the length from the joints making the net inflexible in parts. It would not roll up neatly and looked a mess. Fortunately I had enough cord left to make replacement nets. This time, each of the 100 crossover joints was sewn with black cotton thread. This took some time but the joints are now strong and the completed net is fully flexible.
This post brings us up to present day with the refit. There is still more to do including the
fire monitors
and spotlight. Just to show it does sail, I've included a photo of it out on the lake yesterday. It is only running at approx. 1/4 throttle which doesn't show how it planes. I haven't yet mastered driving it at full speed while simultaneously taking photos!
5 years ago by Graham93
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New In The Shop
To all water cannon enthusiasts:-
The shop is now selling working
fire monitors
. These can be attached to a pipe at the base. The design is based around the crash tender, but any boat or tug of the same scale would be able to use these.
Currently 1:16, if there's any interest for 1:12 I'll look to add this scale too.
Separately... any parts not available which people would be interested in?
Stephen
5 years ago by fireboat
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(Working Vessel) Fairmount Glacier
A Billings kit, the Fairmount Glacier (or Alpine - comes with 5 naming options) is a sturdy boat... 2 props in Kort nozzles, extras I've fitted...37 lights, bow thruster, working
fire monitors
, radar, & horn. Runs on 2 x 12v 7AH batteries, so runs for a while! Colour scheme makes it visible on the lake too! (Motor: 2 x M500 Mtronix) (ESC: JP Marine) (9/10)
5 years ago by Harvey Kitten
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46Firefloat Mk2 paint
Have started renovating old kit build of the 93/94 firefloat with no fittings. Can someone please help with paint colours, the Red and Black on hull are they both Matt. On the deck is the Dark Grey Matt non slip and are the roofs with the
fire monitors
the same. The rest of the roofs are they dark grey Matt or gloss. The side are they Matt or gloss light grey.
Also has anyone got the main dimensions on the lift davit and the tow hook.
Any other info on this build would be appreciated as am copying from two old black and white photos. The model am building is 35โ long and I think 16:1 scale.
6 years ago by Elsrickle
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46Firefloat Mk2 paint
Interesting, valuable photos and drawings. More like that would be welcomed by many of us.
As it would have been illegal not to have a stern light on vessels like these, for both normal passage and also when towing, perhaps that photo without one was during build before it was fitted? No draft marks either. The photo of 93 secured at Vospers (therefore probably before acceptance) shows the stern light while the early type
fire monitors
also show the date of the photo was early on.
I also note one drawing shows the breach hose connectors aft of the cockpit that indicate it to be of later than original build. Similarly the cockpit roof cleats have been re-positioned athwartships rather than the original two being fore-and-aft.
Considering their short operational life, it's surprising how many detail changes were made when all the available documentary evidence is studied! You'd think that after 60+ years all the answers would be known for sure by now!
6 years ago by astromorg
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what motor
OK. So it's 4" smaller than the Sea Scout I am currently renovating and upgrading from a 50ies Taycol motor to brushless! So keep the 'stuf' lightweight.
When I asked the same question for the Sea Scout a few months ago I got the following advice from Canabus, who seems to have considerable experience in this field ๐
"All from Hobbyking.
Motor propdrive V2 2830- 1000kv 370watts 3.175mm shaft(9190000328-0)3S or 4S lipo battery.
ESC 30A car(HK-30A)( XT60 connectors required), program card (HKPROG-CARD)can be used on the larger ones in the series.
Lipo battery Turnigy 1000mah 3S 30C (T1000.3s.20) 89grams 75 x 33 x 19mm or a Turnigy 1500mah 3S 25C (T1500.3S.25) 113 grams 80 x 34 x 25 mm both have XT60 connectors.
Prop about a 2 blade 30mm 1.4 pitch"
I actually opted for a 3 blade prop and a 3S 3000mAh I already had, but bought the ESC and motor recommended and am now fitting them cos it made sense, was not expensive and came pretty quick - make sure it comes from the UK or EU warehouse to avoid possible import tax from Hong Kong or USA !!!
This would be more than adequate to give your boat some Oomph! it needs more than my cabin Cruiser!
For the RC buy a complete set already matched and 'bound' so you have the minimum of fiddling about as a rookie๐
I can thoroughly recommend the Turnigy HT6, AKA TGY-I6 , ~US$45 also from Hobby King. in a couple of hours one evening I could programme two models into it and get it to do what I wanted instead of what the factory thought we would want for plane or chopper!
Instructions are quite clear, logical and lead you through step by step. it comes with a 68 page manual! But much you can skip if you don't intend to go flying with your boat!
Attached is a pic from my manual with German branding (REELY)! But it's the same beast as the TGY-I6, second pic!!
The whole package should cost around a 100quid and you're RTR!
The RC set has 6 channels so you have lots of scope later for special functions;
fire monitors
, lights, horn, motor noise etc etc ๐
By the way; the motor comes with 3.5mm bullet connectors, and of course I only had 4mm 'other halves' but you can also get connectors, loose or fitted to cables and adapters at Hobby King.
(You can solder them on with your 4lb hatchet!!!)
Hope this helps,
Cheers Doug ๐
PS don't forget a suitable coupling to match the 3.17mm motor shaft to your prop shaft (whatever that is, 4mm?)
7 years ago by RNinMunich
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Conrad REELY, Flysky iA6, FS iS6, Turnigy HT6 !!
Most of the companies you have mentioned tend to rebadge third party suppliers hardware, and put their own firmware on it. Flysky and Turnigy normally won't work together, but, if you install Turnigy with Turnigy, or Flysky with Flysky, it will work. I have successfully "updated" Turnigy receivers with Flysky firmware updates to enable me to use them with my Flysky Transmitter. My next job is to hack my Flysky GT3-B to increase to 8 channels and ppm transmission, so I can install an 8 channel receiver on my 46" fire tender (sound, directional working
fire monitors
, etc). Hopefully doing it sometime next week. Progress reports as(or if) I make any ๐จ Best wishes, Dave W ๐
7 years ago by rolfman2000
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Hi Allenrod.
Perhaps if I ever do a refit on this model I might consider working
fire monitors
but as it was never part of my original plan it would be very difficult to incorporate now.
Besides, I have had my brother doing a little bit more brass turning for me as you will soon see in some forthcoming posts.๐
Rob.
7 years ago by robbob
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Hi Rob,
They look great your attention to detail is amazing, with this in mind I wonder if you had considered working
fire monitors
?, from one of your last posts I seem to remember your brother is good with a lathe, keep up the good work it is so interesting, I hope one day to have a go at this build when SWMBO decides to release a bit of cash !!!!
Thanks for a great blog with great ideas, Allen R
7 years ago by allenrod
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The
fire monitors
are supplied in three pieces that need to be assembled, there is the pedestal, the main body & handles and the discharge nozzle (my descriptions, they may have a proper technical term!) ๐ค
Before assembly all the parts were filed smooth, and cleaned with my โsuede shoe brushโ to remove flash and blemishes and to give a key for subsequent paint.
I felt that just glueing the main body and discharge nozzle together would not be sufficiently strong so I bored out the centre of each and inserted a 4mm threaded stud to pull them together, some threadlock on the stud and then some filler at the join produced a good result. The hole at the end of the discharge nozzle also looks more authentic.
The pedestal was also bored out at both ends, the lower end for a 3mm stud and for a 2mm threaded stud at the upper end.
The arms need to be carefully bent to the correct angle, you only really get one attempt at this as the white metal will not stand repeated bending and will probably fracture quite easily.
I also added a small 'lever arm' feature to the bottom of the pedestal that appears in some photographs of the real item, this was finished with a hand turned brass knob.
The finished parts were sprayed with one coat of grey etch primer, a coat of white primer and finally two coats of Halfords โToolbox Redโ acrylic gloss.
I assembled the two pieces when the paint had hardened and put a dab of red paint on the top fixing nut. The handle ends will also be detailed with some black paint or perhaps some black heat shrink.
7 years ago by robbob
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White metal deck fittings.
In between coats of black paint thereโs time to prepare more of the white metal deck fittings.
They all require a bit of a clean up to remove casting lines and flash, and this is easy to do with an assortment of small files, blades and a small suede shoe brush with brass wire โbristlesโ.
After a quick clean up with panel wipe I fixed them all to a piece of card with small strips of double sided foam tape to stop them getting blown around by the pressure of the spay can and gave them a couple of light coats of etch primer.
To assemble the anchor I used some 2mm brass rod with some brass ends made from some larger diameter brass rod, drilled and filed to a pleasing profile, a bit of plasticard was added to neaten the pivot point and the assembly was also given a coat of etch primer.
The cooling water outlet tube and flange and the dummy exhaust ports (adapted portholes) were primed also.
Theyโll get a coat of black gloss before they are fixed to the stern.
Iโll tackle the
fire monitors
nextโฆ
7 years ago by robbob
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Graupner Tito NerI For Sale
HI everybody, unfortunately I'm having to sell my Tito Neri.The boat has lots of working parts, fully working Shottell drives, bow thruster, working radar and
fire monitors
. Built to a very high standard, a real show stopper. Fully radio controlled but no transmitter. Kit cost over ยฃ1000. Buyer must collect. I would like ยฃ600 .Oxfordshire.
10 years ago by terryaki
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(Tug Boat) Shell Pioneer
This is my first working RC build but here goes. A bit vauqe about the fiqures because we are still on the slipway. it is scratch built from the Phil Thomas drawing "Shell Pioneer" Twin prop with Kort nozzle steering, bow thruster, working
fire monitors
and lights. Throtle & steering control via Action Electronics P40E mixer. 2x 2S25C4000mA lipoly's. 6 Ch radio (4 used). draws around 4.5A hope to get 30min run time minimum. Third ESC for bow thruster. (Motor: 2x MFA940051LN) (ESC: 3xViper 15A) (5/10)
8 years ago by marlina2
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RAF Crash Tender
It looks great - I am just starting to build one. Do you have any recommendations on the
fire monitors
? I am going to use Robbe and make them rotate.
Do you find the twin motors too much ?
8 years ago by mbrownhill
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46'' RAF CRASH TENDER
If you have no radio gear consider the taranis 16 channels free mixing and excellent range.
Right now you will have no use for that many control functions BUT sooner or later you will want more, ( turning on and off sounds, lights,
fire monitors
, radar scanners etc.) You could steer the fire monitor so it would be possible to sail up to small boys then SQUIRT them !!!!!!
8 years ago by Haverlock
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Fairplay
Modified HegI Fairplay V tug built by My late Father. Mods include bigger 65mm Prop in a brass kort nozzle, working
fire monitors
, lights, radar, engine sound and grappling hooks to rescue nitro boats. Built 1980-81.
8 years ago by Aquaflite
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PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) SWIFT Boat Vietnam Era
UPaul, That's a nice boat - and a nice build.... Don't be shy of asking a decent figure for it, it may be a model but even these can reach high build cost figures.
In 2012 I completed my 46" fire boat after some 14 months work and expenditure of near GBP 2,000! Built using a glass hull the rest is scratch built using copies of Vosper drawings, the vessel is complete with wheelhouse instrumentation & furniture, First-Aid room with bunks, blankets & pillows - & F/Aid Cabinet, steps leading up to deck, on-deck equipment includes working rescue ladder, hoist Derek, boat hook, working
fire monitors
, stowed life rings, working Nav lights, folding mast, scale Hard Suction Hoses and threaded inlet, Tow hook, Rescue Nets, etc. & Many more small parts, Twin electric propulsion with brass scale exhaust outlets..... and on......
Jim
Trying to upload photos but 'drop-down' box covers Submit Changes button!
8 years ago by Aeronut1
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Engine Mount Issues
Removal of the engine block looks tricky if one thinks about chiseling it out but on my 34" that I originally built in 1963 and fitted an ED Sea Otter 3.46 diesel I found that a hot air gun set to V hot and waved around the block got it free within five minutes- without anymore bashing.
I've restored the boat and changed to electric propulsion using Johnson 980 motor... Boat comes 2/3rds out of water to amidships now. Actually I've restored two 34" fireboats and since scratch built the 46" FB but using a fibreglass hull, the 46" job has fitted out wheelhouse, ditto first aid room, working lights and monitors and is powered by two Johnson 980 motors.
Jim
9 years ago by Aeronut1
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robbe dusseldorf fire boat Wanted
I thank you for your reply but rather pointless not having the monitors working it is a fire boat.
There is a fitting kit for the monitors that is used with two servo's.
cheers
9 years ago by dragon
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RAF FIRE LAUNCH
HI I am re-building a 34 Inch RAF FIRE Boat, Can any body please help with Information with the foam monitors please. chris
9 years ago by chriso
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Fire boat window frames.
HI Paul the www vintage model boat co do full firings kit and all the windows set put in the details of the fire boat and that do all the aero kit boats the firings are of white metal the
fire monitors
the mast crane cleets tow Huck search light and !!!!???? Every thing els good luck malc
9 years ago by malctank
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Vosper 1/16th scale crash tener
I think that mine is probably planing at too great an angle, so I will try moving the battery pack further forward.
As to the bits and pieces, the
fire monitors
come from aquacraft in the US where they are used on an RTR fireboat; the mast and foglight are from the shop on this website; other bits including the LED lighting are from various ebay suppliers. I just did an ebay search on what I was looking for.
Congratulations on yopur rapid build. 50 years from start to finish may be a record!
9 years ago by JeremyBB
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Vosper 1/16th scale crash tener
Maiden voyage today on the lake at Black Park. Runs well but I will have to add a universal coupling to the drive train to make it quieter. Main problem is that she took on a lot of water - leaks in the hull or up the rudder or drive shafts? I will have to sort this out.
fire monitors
work OK but the klaxon is inaudible once out on the lake - it might work better with a bigger speaker if I can find the space to put it. Video on U-tube at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG375Ywk4Qs
9 years ago by JeremyBB
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Vosper 1/16th scale fireboat
Almost there now. Just the rescue davit, the decals and the crew to complete.
Hoses in the cockpit made from 8mm flexible tube wound with string and painted black. I opted for a grain of wheat bulb for the masthead light as, whilst not a bright as the LED's elsewhere, it does give all round Illumination. Fitting was also easier as the very thin wires are ducted through a hole drilled in the mast (this is the plastic item sold in the Model Boats shop).
I am still looking for a 1/16th scale crew and any ideas would be gratefully received. Since first submitting this update, I've looked at the 1/16th scale figures from adriansfigures.com (ex George Turner) and they look massive in relation to the boat. However, looking at an Image of crew testing the
fire monitors
on the real thing in Southampton, they are massive in relation to the boat! Has anyone put figures on their models of this boat and, if so, were they to scale or downscaled a bit possibly to make the proportions look more realistic. if anyone has any relevant photos, that would be most helpful.
Sea trials planned for early March, if the weather warms up a bit.
9 years ago by JeremyBB
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Vosper 1/16th scale crash tender
Getting there slowly! Painting the white waterline is the next challenge.
fire monitors
rotate slowly thanks to the Turnigy servo speed reduction module. Power switch for the water pump still to be finalised. I am concerned that the feed pipes to the monitors may kink on rotation, but time will tell. Klaxon sound ready to be installed. Running lights to be fitted - these will be be controlled by an on/off switch before sailing, not by the RC.
9 years ago by JeremyBB
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Edward M.Cotter Fire-boat
The model boat club I'm in go to Port Coldurg for Canal days in Aug. and this fire-boat comes over from Buffalo New York almost every year so I'v decided to scratch build her Here's The start on the hull My biggest problem will be finding 5 Monitors
10 years ago by GARTH
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Working Monitors
HI Alan and Shaun
I thought about some working monitors but gave up after trying to make some.
I guess they would have to be made of plastic as the white metal ones are non starters. they are too complex and brittle.
I wonder if Vintage Model Boat Company are planning on making some as there is definitely a market out there for both restorers of the Fireboat and also the new builds from VMBC.
I feel that the basis for working monitors should be around a car windscreen washer motor with flexible tubing leading to brass tubes inside the monitors themselves. A 12 volt supply could be provided by a small battery independent of the main power supply and on/off by a servo controlled switch. ๐
Regards
Boaty
10 years ago by boaty
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Vosper 1/16th scale crash tender
Servos for the rotating
fire monitors
and cabin roofs now in place. I plan to use a Turnigy servo speed regulator to slow down the rotation of the
fire monitors
.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...Regulator.html
No idea how to wire it up so I hope it comes with instructions. The servos will be controlled by one channel with a Y connection splitting the signal between the two. I hope that the speed regulator can be inserted before the split.
The
fire monitors
are from Aquacraft. Obviously not to the prototypical design but reasonably to scale.
Next pteps are:
1. Smooth the decks and superstructure with sanding sealer to prepare for adding the hatches etc prior to painting.
2. Add the hatches and raised sections on the rear cabin which would then be sanding sealed.
3. Cover the exterior of the hull with fibreglass cloth and Z-poxy resin prior to adding the rubbing strakes.
4. Test for level when floating to determine the position of the battery and need for any balance weights. I have already put in a battery tray just behind where the prop shaft enters the hull but this may be too far back.
Questions:
1. The instructions with the kit show the black colour on the hull going right down the sides to the lower rubbing strake. Most models I have seen on the web show the black coming only down the water line. Which is right? The single colour on the sides would be easier to do.
2 My thoughts are now turning to installing a sound system to mimic a fire klaxon or hooter. Would the prototype have been equipped with this?
Many thanks for the advice already received on this build ๐ .
10 years ago by JeremyBB
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Vosper 1/16th scale crash tender
Decks now skinned. Next step is to install the servos to operate the rotating
fire monitors
. After that, the cabin roofs.
I am undecided about how to glaze the cabin windows. As the cabin sides are thick, the windows would look recessed if glazed from behind. An alternative would be to put glazing directly behind the window frames and rely on painting to hide the edges of the acrylic sheet. Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated.
10 years ago by JeremyBB
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Vosper 1/16th scale crash tender
I like building wooden boats which have a nice turn of speed and the Lesro 34.5" Vosper crash tender fits the bill. I am using their recommended hardware with a brushless motor driving a single 40mm screw. However, I also plan to install working
fire monitors
mounted on servos so they can rotate. The servos are from Aquacraft in the US which, whilst not to exactly the right design, are at least roughly to scale. I also plan to include a working searchlight and running lights. Build still in its early stages and should keep me busy during the dark winter months. Any thought or advice would always be welcomed ๐ .
10 years ago by JeremyBB
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Info for Vosper Crash Tenders and Air ea Resue
Some Information for all those "Fire Boat" guys.
For the superstructure colour which can be described as RAF Barley grey (don't quote me on that, could be something else) I have used a variety of paints In the past. The best I came up with Involved using Dulux house hold paint and mixing It to match the colour but the nearest match In the modelling world would be Tamiya XF-19 Sky Grey, the second nearest Is Humbrol 64.
You may require a semI gloss varnish to get an closer match. There were only two Vosper crash tenders ever built were numbered 93 and 94, and these numbers were painted white. One final note which I have noticed with other RAF vessels In model form, the roundel on the bow of a crash tender should not have the yellow outer ring, the yellow ring signifies an air sea rescue boat In the RAF air sea rescue service not a marine craft section boat to which the crash tenders belong to.
Hope this helps.
The two boats In the class 93 & 94 of the 46ft Crash & Rescue tenders were constructed by Vosper Ltd of Portsmouth In1952 for the R.A.F.
The hulls were of double skin mahogany on birch plywood framing. Powers was from two Rover Metorite engines of 375 hp each, This was a 8 cylinders V type engine of 18 litres Drive was to 2 X 3 blade props (both rotating the same way) Giving a top speed of 28 knots
Fire fighting was from two 3.5'
fire monitors
that could spray water of foam. The power for the pumps was from a Ford V8 engine to give 5-600 g.p.m. This pump was also be used as a salvage pump.
For rescue work she was fitted with a spring tow hook, line throwing equipment and rockets, stretchers and a portable davit.
The two craft were taken Into service In 1952-53 at Calshot. They spent many year as experimental craft for It Is alleged that they were designed to complement the SARO princess flying boats that spent many years at Calshot. The craft were reported to have startling acceleration and could stop In there own length once the automatic 7 sec time delay came Into effect on the reverse gear. They had a turning circle of three boat lengths at 28,5 knots.
Both boats were sold from service In 1958. The two boats In the class 93 & 94 of the 46ft Crash & Rescue tenders were constructed by Vosper Ltd of Portsmouth In1952 for the R.A.F.
The hulls were of double skin mahogany on birch plywood framing. Powers was from two Rover Metorite engines of 375 hp each, This was a 8 cylinders V type engine of 18 litres Drive was to 2 X 3 blade props (both rotating the same way) Giving a top speed of 28 knots
Fire fighting was from two 3.5'
fire monitors
that could spray water of foam. The power for the pumps was from a Ford V8 engine to give 5-600 g.p.m. This pump was also be used as a salvage pump.
For rescue work she was fitted with a spring tow hook, line throwing equipment and rockets, stretchers and a portable davit.
Both boats were sold from service In 1958.
10 years ago by MAXTON
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aerokits
Restoring my 46 inch fire boat bought from ebay currently stripping it back as paint was letting it down was running a graupner 600 turbo motor but changing and adding sound module and working
fire monitors
.
10 years ago by watsy106
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(Fire Boat) Fireboat
Rebuild of an e-bay wreck, working lights &
fire monitors
. Scale speed and very seaworthy. (Motor: Graupner Speed 600) (ESC: Mtroniks) (8/10)
10 years ago by chrislang
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fireboat update
Some modellers licence has been used and the
fire monitors
are now finished, painted and fitted, they are working monitors, well the will be if I fit a pump.
Mostly made out of aluminium and brass, the oval bit in the middle of the body is made out of three pieces of plasticard as I don't have the skills to make this bit on the lathe.
Thread lock was used to fix the brass tubes, seems to have worked alright.
10 years ago by AlanP
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dusseldorf fireboat
built this one after the first one was stolen which has turned out for the better. Has working
fire monitors
,anchor,bow thruster,sounds,searchlight,lightsand a bloke on the back having a wee, which in turn acts as a bilge pump to tell me there is water in the boat
10 years ago by tduggan
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46 Inch Crash Tender - scramble nets
Looks great and very realistic.
A few weeks ago I obtained a 34 inch Aerokits Crash Tender.
It needs a bit of work and I have just made the cabin roof panels.
Indication is that it may have originally had a Taycol Standard for propulsion judging by the motor mount.
I am looking out for ideas ref fittings including
fire monitors
etc and power unit is anticipated to be a Speed 600 when completed.
Thanks for the details ref making scrambling nets.
Boaty
10 years ago by boaty
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RAF Crash Tender
This is a Kitshack 46 inch Crash Tender. Nearly finished with a bit more detail yet to finish powered by 2 1400 kv brushless motors running on car speed controllers at 7.2 volt. Goes like stink! Has working rotatable
fire monitors
which are scratch built
10 years ago by raj002
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monitor drawings
Can anyone help me with some drawings / measurements so I can make some
fire monitors
for a 34 Inch boat. Anything will help!!
Thanks In advance
Roger
10 years ago by shavings
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RAF Fireboat monitors
Will try that cheers shipmate. ;-), Progress report - Have found items they are sold separately in their ship fittings order 2, at first I could only find full set of fittings, was just looking on wrong page on site. Again Thank you Rooky Sailor, much appreciated Sir :-)
10 years ago by Peter47
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RAF Fireboat monitors
Can anybody tell me were I can purchase working
fire monitors
for KitShacks 34" RAF Fireboat, believe scale Is 1/16th. Also looking for small crane for amidships Finding her a very agile and stable boat.
10 years ago by Peter47
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RAF Fireboat monitors
Yes , you have the correct company,but they sold me the monitors and the breech
seperately, ask them and I'm sure they will let you have the parts you need and you can always scratchbuild the rest.
10 years ago by Rookysailor
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RAF Fireboat monitors
Again thanks for the response I think I've located the right page - http://www.vintagemodelboats.com/page7.html - these look good, but also think they are non-working, see it comes as a full fitting sets, vents anchors, tow hooks etc wish I'd seen them earlier as already fitted most of fittings bought from other suppliers.
Have to sneak it passed the chancellor, okay missus :-)
Peter
10 years ago by Peter47
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RAF Fireboat monitors
Just finishing my 34" Fireboat,got the foam monitors and the breech from Vintage models, they are direct copies of the Yeoman whitemetal fittings that were available for the 1/16 Aerokits Firefloat, they make up very nice and are a reasonable cost.
10 years ago by Rookysailor
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RAF Fireboat monitors
Thank you ship mate, those photo are just what I needed, usual go by scratch built route, but have seen larger scale monitors advertised was just being lazy, as you say crane look an easy job, having utilises Plasticard on a few models, mainly my rendition of HMS Princess Beatrix LSI, Landing craft LCA and LSM and their launching davits, found it very versatile.
Will check out blog you mentioned, cheers,
Peter
10 years ago by Peter47
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RAF Fireboat monitors
A google search will find you working monitors, but they are unlike the
fire monitors
on the fire boat, so if you want to be authentic you will have to make your own, have a read of pmdevlin's blog.
The crane I am afraid you will have to make yourself.
Shouldn't be to hard to do with plasticard.
A couple of photo's taken at Blackpool show last year to help.
Alan
10 years ago by AlanP
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Fireboat Tribute to HS93 Peter Henshaw
HI all,
well If you have been following my 4 foot Fireboat build blog (if not, why not! ๐ ) you will know I have been a bit busy!
Jan 2013 one of the original members, and a moderator of this forum sadly died, a great loss to the modelling world, known as "HS93", Peter was a very talented man and a good friend. I managed to help his wife clear all his engineering machines, tools, and models, but one of the models was very special to me, It was the one that brought us together some 7 years ago when I was looking for help rebuilding my 3 foot aerokits Fireboat for my Dad.. It was also special to Peter, and his wife, It was a 3 foot Fireboat, built new, not Aerokits, I think the hull was Deans marine, but not sure.
The boat Is a work of art, It has opening hand made brass front windows, working hand made davit crane, the monitors were going to work, the wheelhouse doors open, the rescue ladder folds as It should, the searchlight works, The towhook works, I could go on and on, and If you read my blog, you can now see where my stolen Ideas came from! ๐ฏ
Typical of Peter, he never quite finished It, he hated painting models as the superb detail he put Into things tended to get lost when painted, you just cant put a price on something like this, so as a tribute and thankyou for all the time he spent messing around with my models, I decided to finish It as a static display, and give back to his wife as a suprise. Here are some photos for you to enjoy ๐
10 years ago by pmdevlin