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    White Star BB''570''
    Started on an easy build. A White Start from Billing Boats. As usually the build instruction is very basic, all is more ore less shown on the main drawing. I have skipped the original 3mm shaft and added a 4mm from Robbe incl. a 3 blade
    graupner
    racing prop as used in my Classic. I'll be using a 1100KV Brushless motor with a 2S LiPo. The basic of the hull is now done.
    6 months ago by Tica
    Forum
    graupner
    Neptun
    Scale 1:87 HO
    graupner
    Neptun older kit but not of any specific ship, just a generic coastal freighter with or w/o cranes. Inside is a
    graupner
    350 motor geared 3:1; speed control; using one 7.2v 2400 NiMH Found a post of some else’s work. https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/Modellers/Mark_Wilkes/neptun.htm
    4 months ago by Ron
    Forum
    Max Current for Jumbo 550
    Help Please. Does anyone know the max allowable current draw for a
    graupner
    Jumbo 550 motor vintage 1976.
    5 months ago by Will-I-Am
    Response
    Paddle Tug Iona - the hull
    Thanks Chris... yeah independent paddle control is very useful for navigating into 'dock'. Your "Loch Ranza" looks pretty good too. These
    graupner
    kits are hard to come by. I like paddle steamers as a project, and picked up a part built 'city of Bath' from my local club. Hull & decks complete otherwise I have to build powertrain / superstructure. Planned in for later in the year.
    5 months ago by Harvey Kitten
    Media
    ''juliette''
    my first
    graupner
    carina named "juliette" under attack by crabs 😁
    6 months ago by Smaragd
    Directory
    (Yacht)
    graupner
    Carina
    my 2nd
    graupner
    Carina, with a modern appearance (9/10)
    6 months ago by Smaragd
    Directory
    (Yacht) ''juliette''
    original
    graupner
    carina named "juliette" the 1st one I built. wanted to be a classic model. (9/10)
    6 months ago by Smaragd
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    E s c
    Hi I am using a Blue Rain esc rated at 60 amp 480 amp stall current .Has all the features of the viper plus a finned heat sink and cooling fan . Powers 2 black and decker 600 drill motors with
    graupner
    series 162 props motors approx Β£3.50 and esc Β£6.43 All on E BAY Or motors can be had from Potts in Derby .The motors draw 30 amps at full speed and I use a 5000 3 cell lipo The expensive bit Hobbyking supplied .The boat is a Jules Verne Cheers Ian T
    6 months ago by TOWN3810
    Forum
    graupner
    Collie
    Wanted anything to help me complete a
    graupner
    Collie. Plans, drawings, part kits please ? Thank you .
    7 months ago by wmbc40
    Response
    Cooling coil
    I have one on a 540 brushed motor which is a reasonably tight fit on the motor. Also I have a
    graupner
    on to fit
    graupner
    400 speed motor and that again is a quite tight fit. There is no gap between the motor and the coil. it is acting as a heat sink so therefore surely it should touch to disperse the heat with the water flowing through it. if it isn't in contact with it then doesn't it make it pointless putting it on there. Also wont it make it rattle about when the motor is running and the boat hopping about on the water ??
    7 months ago by BOATSHED
    Forum
    Outboard Motors
    Sorry about the typographical error, guys. The model is indeed 50cm long. Does anyone have experience of the
    graupner
    outboards? Some seem to have brushless motors so should have some oomph.
    7 months ago by BigChris
    Forum
    graupner
    Neptun Freighter
    Received this partially built kit, having been started over 20 years ago. Got it with no stairs, iifeboats, or deck equipment. Used H.O. Package of stairs, railings, and ladders to make what is seeing here. A friend is carving a couple lifeboats and I will make davits.
    7 months ago by Ron
    Response
    aeronaut classic
    I have the following setup in my Classic:
    graupner
    BL Compact 260Z 1380KV with a
    graupner
    ESC 18A FWD and REV. The shaft is replaced with a Robbe 4mm (no 1442) as the one provided is a flimsy part that will not withstand the motor set-up. Prop is a 33mm
    graupner
    racing item. it is running on LiPo 2S but if one need a rocket it can run on 3S. Great fun to build and performs great on the water
    7 months ago by Tica
    Forum
    Proximity (Hall effect) sensor wiring
    Absolutely Steve πŸ‘ Alternative is to make a holder for the magnet to prevent it getting knocked off by weeds etc. Also agree that any Failsafe' circuits must have an independent power supply. Place to put the switch, or latching relay, is definitely in place of the little slide switch usually supplied on the ESC. Just checked on some of my ESCs,
    graupner
    and mTroniks, the red lead to the switch is NOT connected to the red lead supplying the RX and servos via the built in BEC. Guess the switch just triggers an FET switch inside the ESC. So the normal 500mA limit of reed switches will be enough. if a latching relay is used make sure the pull-in current is less than 500mA. Have fun All, cheers, Doug 😎 Eric; which sub is your mate building? I have a Type 1A U-Boat dynamic diver, speed and planes only, and a kit for an Akula 2 which will be a static diver, with tank etc.
    7 months ago by RNinMunich
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    (Pleasure Craft)
    graupner
    'Commodore'
    Purchased the kit in 1978, while working on Norfolk island (South Pacific) and built it in 1979. ABS hull, ply deck and balsa and ply cabin. Was a nice model, shouldn't have sold it. Would have been great with modern gear. (Motor:
    graupner
    monoperm) (ESC: 1978 Futaba 18v propo F+R) (5/10)
    8 months ago by jbkiwi
    Forum
    Tarpon hardware help
    Need help in selecting and matching motor, battery, ESC, prop etc. for my 1958 Tarpon scratch built from MM 494 plan. I am years out of date with the hobby and a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing! I have purchased a
    graupner
    Speed 600 8.4 Volt (4.8-9.6V) and an Mtroniks Speed M600 12 Volt. I also purchased the Mtroniks TIO Marine 30 Amp ESC . Please advise if I am on the right track and which motor to use. Also need help on prop and battery selection. Thank you, Gordon
    9 months ago by Gordon-B
    Forum
    Tarpon hardware help
    Looking for more help please. I have settled for the
    graupner
    Speed 600 8.4 Volt (4.8-9.6V) with the Mtroniks TIO Marine 30 Amp ESC driving a 3 blade brass 35mm prop. I need advise on what size of NiMh pack to use and will it be under propped with the 35mm 3 blade?
    8 months ago by Gordon-B
    Directory
    (Tug Boat) Loch Ranza
    I bought an unfinished
    graupner
    paddle steamer kit which was in a bit of a state and spent many happy hours making her look loved. The hull and paddle wheels were in an acceptable condition but the deck and superstructure left lots to be desired. The previous owner had purchased the motor which was 50.1 geared and pushes the boat along well all other bits including 'smoke' brass portholes and new superstructure added by myself. She was a delight to finish and looks an absolute dream on the water. (Motor: MFA 919D series) (8/10)
    8 months ago by ChrisG
    Forum
    A return to the hobby!
    Colin, thanks for the input; I’m using a
    graupner
    45mm 2-bladed nylon, which was a recommendation from a local hobby shop.
    8 months ago by J Barry
    Response
    Bluebird
    Hi Biscuit, I have just watched your video's, nice to see more on the water. I see you have also posted pictures of the
    graupner
    Rhode island F1 tunnel hull. I also have one of these and as yet have not got around to giving it a run. I do not live near any ponds locally where I can be sure I'm allowed to run my models. 16 miles for an electric isn't far I also have IC powered and the nearest for those is almost 40 miles. I get very disheartened with the hobby but still cannot get it out of my vein's. I curious to know where you have fitted wedges under you Rhode island. What's the chance of posting a few pictures of the under side of her to give me some idea as to how you have done this. it would be nice to see so that I could also give it a go so as to make her a little better on her maiden run. Many thanks in advance and kind regards.
    8 months ago by BOATSHED
    Directory
    (Racing Boat)
    graupner
    Rhode Island
    Lovely outboard boat, had to add some wedges to stop it hooking in the turns, but looks lovely (Motor:
    graupner
    2000 Kv) (ESC:
    graupner
    90 amp) (10/10)
    8 months ago by Biscuit
    Response
    HMS BRAVE BORDERER
    Hi Lyle. Note your comments on planing strikes or the hard chine hull. I have a 52" Veron FPB. Powered by two
    graupner
    900 motors. When she gets up on the plane loads of wash coming over the rear deck. Am I right in thinking that if I fit a strake to each side of the hull at the bottom of the vertical skin and flush with the bottom of it it will assist in planing and keep wash away from the rear deck. if I fit them I intend to flare them towards the bow. Regards Kevin
    8 months ago by kevinsharpe
    Forum
    Pretend deck planking
    Don't know if it is still available, but I downloaded the construction manual for the
    graupner
    Valvdiva, which has a joggled king plank and curved planking which is started on the outer edge of the deck. I haven't tried it yet, but it appears to be a good "how to." Greatest concern for me is bending the planks to the curve of the deck, as they are wider than their thickness.
    8 months ago by Peejay
    Forum
    Is there a way to...?
    I am running a
    graupner
    360 with 3:1 gear box powered by 2400 NiMH 7.2 volt battery in this freighter. Is there a way to put a governor in the system so that when my grandson controls the model he can run it fast? I am not electronically apt so I am asking you who know such things.
    9 months ago by Ron
    Response
    electrical connectors
    Hi, don't bother with the pics, just change the
    graupner
    connectors for bullets. Preferably the gold type. Cheers, Doug 😎
    9 months ago by RNinMunich
    Response
    electrical connectors
    Hi Doug thanks again for your help , yes
    graupner
    connectors and yes the one that works well are bullet connectors I will post pictures tomorrow asap.
    9 months ago by teejay
    Response
    electrical connectors
    Hi TJ, 1: "grouper connectors"!? Do you mean
    graupner
    ? Pics please. 2: What the heck are 'Halford connectors'? Bullet connectors perhaps? 3: Why two types of connectors at all? 4: Fuse; I actually recommended a fuse between the drive battery and the ESCs to protect both the ESCs and the motors. The switch is normally for the RX only, unless you can find a high current switch which isn't too big to put between the drive battery and the ESCs. Fuse for the RX supply is not normally necessary, especially if a BEC supply is used. With a separate RX battery maximum a 2A fuse. The RX takes only a few milliamps BUT each decent size servo will take up to 500mA. So 2A will do for up to 4 servos. Which motors by the way? Odd that they have different connectors😲 Cheers, Doug 😎
    9 months ago by RNinMunich
    Response
    Pinkie Pie
    Looks like a
    graupner
    'Commodore'. I built one in the 70s and looks identical (see pic)
    9 months ago by jbkiwi
    Forum
    PS Waverley
    Hi Martin, My stanchions were pre-drilled, from
    graupner
    ca 30 Years ago. Never 'eard of Modelling Timbers. Timber stanchions!!!😲 I "only" had to drill the holes in the decks (thought that was what you meant), there were enough of them. Much worse though was fitting all the two part portholes 😑 Since fibre glassing the the hull I have to do that all over again😭 Frankly I think anyone who gets so many stanchions made as castings without pre-drilled rail holes need his bumps feeling. I thoroughly agree ref mini drills, too easy to snap fine drill bits. πŸ‘ For precision / repetitive drilling I use my Proxxon mini milling machine as a drill press. if I need more than one of something I knock up a simple jig (usually from hardwood taken from demolished old furniture) to hold the work piece in the machine vice attached to the milling machine cross bed. I took the irritating collet fixing off the mill and fitted a real 3 jaw chuck πŸ˜‰ Happy 'Vincenting', All the best, Doug 😎
    9 months ago by RNinMunich
    Forum
    Veron Vosper F.P.B. 52''
    Hi John. interested to know what kind of offers you have had. Boaty, yes Veron did an RTTL Rescue Target Towing Launch, they featured in the black and white film ' The sea shall not have them'. This though is their fast patrol boat. I believe it's called a 'Trinity class patrol boat and some were supplied to the Trinidad and Tobago navy. You will sometimes see the model bares the name Coureland Bay'. I have seen photos on this website of her. They were built by Vosper Thornycroft in Portsmouth. if I was building her I would put two meaty brushless motors n her which should bring a sprite lay planing performance. I have fitted two
    graupner
    900s in mine, which give her an excellent turn of speed. These are brushed motors but are not available any more. The hull space is vast so easily accommodates batteries with space for sound system working radar etc. Regards Kevin
    9 months ago by kevinsharpe
    Forum
    Old outboard motor...
    Oh I know what to do with 'em, Doug, just not sure I could DO it! I think if you need a quick outboard and won't pay
    graupner
    prices, you're stuck with a HobbyKing who do 2, both very similar, but about 65-70 quid a pop. I've just realised my little vintage outboard will go on my little fibreglass clinker dinghy, making it a wee fishing boat. I will have to put 2 servos in the dolly (dressed as an old salt). One will turn it on and off and one will steer once I've put a tiller on it. No ESC needed. Old o/bs either run or not, so he can turn the little brass switch on and steer it. Painted harbour launch grey, with a couple of lobster pots and a dog, it'll be a sweet little model. Martin
    9 months ago by Westquay
    Forum
    Old outboard motor...
    Hi Doug, I do have a Hobbyking CNC ally one and now have a brushless inrunner for it. I got it when they were very cheap a while back. Wouldn't pay what they now want for them and
    graupner
    are always way overpriced. I could be tempted with 7 quid for a Hobbies one though, just to see how it goes together. The K&O are gorgeous but collector money and the Alterscale are dummies, albeit nice dummies and also bloody expensive. I sliced the little vintage jobby I bought down the joint line with a fine saw blade in the minidrill today and all is well. it just needs new wires and some grease when I can find some good styrene/nylon grease. The motor is a two magnet Kako, many examples of which I have in store. Even has a nice little built in switch. I reckon 3 volts is probably all the transmission can take. The gears are not, as I assumed bevels, but 2 spur gears! I now have to find a way of making the prop shaft stay on the motor shaft! I'm loving this restoration stuff. Painted the red on my Star yacht today with my best chisel headed sable and got a special 1/4 litre of the emerald green mixed in HMG enamel (the very best there is). Tried to win a lovely Starlet off ebay, but some sod beat me to it last minute. I hope it leaks Martin
    9 months ago by Westquay
    Forum
    VOSPER 46'' Crash Tender
    Actually 4 pole , "
    graupner
    HPD 2920-4000 High-end brushless motor Particularly suitable for: MiniMono, MiniHydro, MiniCats, MiniHydroplanes, aircraft with wingspan up to 1 m, off-road and on-road 1:12 Features ?Special CNC-machined housing for maximum heat dissipation ?High-efficiency 4-pole 12-slot brushless motor ?High-performance rotor with Kevlar reinforcement ?High-purity copper coils for optimised conductivity ?Extremely strong sintered neodymium magnets ?Intense torque at low weight Specification Operating voltage range : 4,2-16,8 V No-load speed: 29600 U/min All-up weight, approx. : 90 g Free shaft length: 10 mm Recommended controller: Navy V75 G7257 Output : 650 W Number of poles: 4 Permissible motor direction : R und L Nominal voltage: 7,4 V Case length: 30 mm Shaft diameter: 4 mm Case diameter: 29 mm Revolutions/Volt: 4000 " Taken from one Google, first response at Cornwall Models Boats!πŸ˜‰ Note. 650W, Nominal voltage 7.4V. No wonder it's a bit quick on 11.1V 😲 Cheers, Doug 😎
    9 months ago by RNinMunich
    Forum
    VOSPER 46'' Crash Tender
    I have a hawk BL60 and when setting up left it at 2 poles as I couldn’t find the number of poles on the
    graupner
    HPD 2920 4000 And it works ok have fitted to of these in my crash Tender and both worked fine although I find it a bit fast with the 11 volt lipos
    9 months ago by Elsrickle
    Forum
    HELP needed re:
    graupner
    Neptun
    Hi Ron No, the yellow cranes in the second pic are on the original version, as the guy bought it. He then decided to convert it to a container feeder ship as shown in the first pic. They don't need on board cranes. Cheers, Doug
    9 months ago by RNinMunich
    Forum
    HELP needed re:
    graupner
    Neptun
    Your container idea shows two yellow cranes. I have no life boats, railings, forecastle deck hardware, anchors, masts, just what you see here.
    9 months ago by Ron
    Forum
    HELP needed re:
    graupner
    Neptun
    Tag Tica, More like 1/96 or 1/100 according to the build reports I've seen here in Germany. Re lack of cranes; you could always build her as a Container Feeder ship! πŸ˜‰ For example; Before https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZPUlHLJhEbY/UZvN8IKXRlI/AAAAAAAAA3U/GPYgm4i1Kl8/s720/IMG_0961.JPG to After https://www.rc-modellbau-schiffe.de/wbb2/index.php?thread/28885-ostseefeeder-1-100-umbau-
    graupner
    -neptun/ Cheers, Doug 😎
    9 months ago by RNinMunich
    Forum
    HELP needed re:
    graupner
    Neptun
    I have a nearly completed Neptun, but is also missing the cranes. I have just done the hatches with tie downs. As I recall the scale is approx 1:87 (H0) but please check if that is correct.
    9 months ago by Tica
    Forum
    Taycol Supemarine Resurrection
    IN THE BEGINNING there was what looked like a pile of rust😲 which got soaked in WD40 for 24 hours! After washing off with warm water and washing-up liquid, and drying in the sun for a few hours, the bearings (and copper wire brushes) were oiled, missing connecting links bridged, and 6V (with current limit 3A set) was cautiously applied. Lo and behold she rattled and protested BUT RAN! Oh! That nostalgic smell of ozone, and enough sparks to read a book byπŸ€” Next connections were changed, to separate field and armature coils (brush gear), and connected to a standard brushed motor ESC (
    graupner
    Navy 30A) via my prototype converter board, and a Robbe Servo Tester to simulate TX and RX. lo and behold chapter 2; she ran forwards and backwards😊 and no sparks! Now dismantled (last 3 pics) to start clean up and replacement of corroded parts. Sorry Col, I broked your motor😁😁 Armature was cleaned up and commutator polished; surprisingly lots of 'meat' on it so motor has not been run much. Next stop; lathe to make some new frame spacers. After that new bearing bushes cos the old Paxolin end plates have worn so that there's about 1/32" slop! Will probably have to turn the drive shaft down from original 1/4" (6.35mm) to 5mm to remove last traces of rust and pitting. Cheers All, Doug 😎
    10 months ago by RNinMunich
    Response
    Calculating scale speed
    Hi Colin, must admit I'm using some skills I didn't know I had, or had forgotten through disuse! it's been interesting though and I think I'm on the 'back straight' now. I'll write it up in the blog later. For the ESC any decent 20A brushed ESC will do nicely. I've been doing the testing with a years old
    graupner
    Navy V30R and a Robbe Servo Tester, see pic. Good idea with the SATNAV, 7mph seems to be Spot On πŸ‘ Cheers, Doug 😎
    10 months ago by RNinMunich
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    (Working Vessel) Elke HF 408
    This is a restoration project - my first radio control boat 'Elke', is a small fishing boat with plastic hull, a
    graupner
    kit, purchased in Germany when I was serving in the Army there in 1974. I am restoring it for my grandson. it used to be a good runner with a 6v battery, small electric motor, two servos, one wired so it could move boat in reverse as well as forward. A good little sailor, light in weight and a good pond model. Had to be careful of wave height. Anyway, it has been in the garage for 40 years now so much to do. The inside is a bit of a mess and everything has a layer of dust. I will fit a speed controller and NiMH battery. But nothing too difficult so hope to have it finished for Christmas. (Motor: 6v) (5/10)
    10 months ago by Neil-S
    Forum
    bulkheads
    I have hopefully posted photos of stern/bow shape of bulkheads + side view of the hull. there are 20 frames in the hull. how can I install x2
    graupner
    schottel [2335] at the bow. I will have to leave out the keel under hull. thankyou Green. the plans are 1/50th scale.
    10 months ago by green72west
    Forum
    Paddle tug Glasgow.
    Hi Dave,
    graupner
    didn't go defunct! They teamed up with JR in Korea to save the best bits of the company. Happy huntingπŸ‘ Cheers, Doug 😎
    10 months ago by RNinMunich
    Forum
    Paddle tug Glasgow.
    Hi Doug. I've actually done that, which is why I asked on here. There are no pics of the paddles in diagram form that I can use to compare mine to. Someone must have an old set maybe from years ago. I even thought of writing to
    graupner
    themselves, as it's a classic kit, but they went broke a few years ago. So now I don't know if the new owners will have the records. Anyway, I'll give it a go. Thanks again Doug. Cheers, Dave 😊
    10 months ago by rolfman2000
    Forum
    Paddle tug Glasgow.
    Hi Dave, Just Google
    graupner
    paddle tug Glasgow and you'll get hundreds of hits to look at! Here an example with many pics and tips. Also shows the boat on port side. https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2219390-
    graupner
    -Glasgow Some close up pics of what you think is wrong would help us to track them down. Cheers, Doug 😎
    10 months ago by RNinMunich
    Forum
    keel/hull info
    thanks for answer "bulkheads!!!" doug. I am not getting VSP units!! THE Β£200 each has something to do with decision. I am getting when "ready"
    graupner
    schottel drive unit 11 [2335] x 2. What i would like to know, [i have 1000 questions] do i need to have 2 rudders???. thanks, green.πŸ€”πŸ€”
    11 months ago by green72west
    Forum
    Vic Smeed air/Sea Rescue launch
    Help required, I have just started to look again at this boat which I partly built the hull and upper works for many years ago from a model boats extra publication. Has anyone built this model as I have a number of questions re finishing the balsa hull, modern control and running gear for this model. It currently has a
    graupner
    Jumbo 540 motor installed but nothing done to the balsa hull or upper works or control
    11 months ago by Will-I-Am
    Forum
    graupner
    Neptun Container Ship
    I was given this kit partially built. No plans were provided. A finished boat is also shown as found on web. Anyone built this model?
    11 months ago by Ron
    Response
    Fitting
    "But, Mousie, thou art no thy-lane, In proving foresight may be vain; The best-laid schemes o' mice an' men Gang aft agley, An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain, For promis'd joy!" Poor little homeless mouse 😭 squeak squeak! Your pump sounds like one intended for a small fountain. Look for one which is specced as 'Self priming'. Car windscreen washer pumps from the scrap yard do the job, most need 12V though.
    graupner
    & Co do some small 6V jobs. Next time plasti-card for the superstructure!? Cheers, Doug 😎 Oh, and for the rest of us Sassenachs amongst us, the modern English version- "But Mouse, you are not alone, In proving foresight may be vain: The best laid schemes of mice and men Go often askew, And leave us nothing but grief and pain, For promised joy!"
    11 months ago by RNinMunich
    Forum
    graupner
    Jumbo 540 motors
    Sorry but when you said 6v I assumed it was a SLA so your NiMh, must be a 5 cell as they come in multiples of 1.2v. So I agree the simplest solution is a Rx battery pack and disconnect the BEC supply. (May need to remove +ve wire from ESC(s) plug?)
    11 months ago by CB90


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