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WWII Italian MAS 562
Skinned the frames added deck and splash rail also started on cabin and superstructure, added rudder and installed twin brushed
graupner
600 motors via
graupner
style direct couplings.
Motor mounting system through a bulkhead gives extra support to motors which mount on to end of the shafts.
currently adding a rudder servo mount, as rudder is a close copy of the real boat's and still functional.
6 years ago by CB90
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Hope you are not becoming too bored with my boot sale stories but I seem to have hit a rich vein at the moment and can't resist. Here's the
graupner
Elke HF 408 picked up on Sunday for ยฃ14. Pretty good nick with lots of bits and does not appear to have been sailed or fitted with RC. Again, any help or advice really welcome. Retro fitting a propshaft could be a problem.
6 years ago by AllenA
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Is westbournemodel@ co serious?
I am asking everyone on the air if westbourne are taking joke of me: I ordered and payed 4 people
graupner
marine crew fot my tugboat, they confirmed receiving bill and soon they should send to me (more than three months ago) many mails witout ONE answer! I am astonished!
8 years ago by saintsalvio
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WANTED
graupner
Manhattan 74 *Please Read*
HI all first post on here,
I am desperately trying to find an unbuilt
graupner
Manhattan 74. Does anyone have one lying around they would be willing to sell to me? Or does anyone know anyone who has one or point me towards one?
I love the design and have always wanted one since a child, only when I can afford one they stop making them!!
Thanks, Reece
10 years ago by Jeanneau
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White Star BB''570''
Started on an easy build. A White Start from Billing Boats.
As usually the build instruction is very basic, all is more ore less shown on the main drawing.
I have skipped the original 3mm shaft and added a 4mm from Robbe incl. a 3 blade
graupner
racing prop as used in my Classic.
I'll be using a 1100KV Brushless motor with a 2S LiPo.
The basic of the hull is now done.
5 years ago by Tica
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Scale 1:87 HO
graupner
Neptun older kit but not of any specific ship, just a generic coastal freighter with or w/o cranes.
Inside is a
graupner
350 motor geared 3:1; speed control; using one 7.2v 2400 NiMH
Found a post of some elseโs work.
https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/Modellers/Mark_Wilkes/neptun.htm
5 years ago by Ronald
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Max Current for Jumbo 550
Help Please.
Does anyone know the max allowable current draw for a
graupner
Jumbo 550 motor vintage 1976.
5 years ago by Will-I-Am
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Paddle Tug Iona - the hull
Thanks Chris... yeah independent paddle control is very useful for navigating into 'dock'. Your "Loch Ranza" looks pretty good too. These
graupner
kits are hard to come by. I like paddle steamers as a project, and picked up a part built 'city of Bath' from my local club. Hull & decks complete otherwise I have to build powertrain / superstructure. Planned in for later in the year.
5 years ago by Harvey Kitten
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''juliette''
my first
graupner
carina named "juliette" under attack by crabs ๐
5 years ago by Smaragd
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my 2nd
graupner
Carina, with a modern appearance (9/10)
5 years ago by Smaragd
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(Yacht) ''juliette''
original
graupner
carina named "juliette" the 1st one I built. wanted to be a classic model. (9/10)
5 years ago by Smaragd
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E s c
Hi I am using a Blue Rain esc rated at 60 amp 480 amp stall current .Has all the features of the viper plus a finned heat sink and cooling fan . Powers 2 black and decker 600 drill motors with
graupner
series 162 props motors approx ยฃ3.50 and esc ยฃ6.43 All on E BAY Or motors can be had from Potts in Derby .The motors draw 30 amps at full speed and I use a 5000 3 cell lipo The expensive bit Hobbyking supplied .The boat is a Jules Verne Cheers Ian T
5 years ago by TOWN3810
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Wanted anything to help me complete a
graupner
Collie. Plans, drawings, part kits please ? Thank you .
5 years ago by wmbc40
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Cooling coil
I have one on a 540 brushed motor which is a reasonably tight fit on the motor. Also I have a
graupner
on to fit
graupner
400 speed motor and that again is a quite tight fit. There is no gap between the motor and the coil. it is acting as a heat sink so therefore surely it should touch to disperse the heat with the water flowing through it. if it isn't in contact with it then doesn't it make it pointless putting it on there. Also wont it make it rattle about when the motor is running and the boat hopping about on the water ??
5 years ago by BOATSHED
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Outboard Motors
Sorry about the typographical error, guys. The model is indeed 50cm long. Does anyone have experience of the
graupner
outboards? Some seem to have brushless motors so should have some oomph.
5 years ago by BigChris
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graupner
Neptun Freighter
Received this partially built kit, having been started over 20 years ago. Got it with no stairs, iifeboats, or deck equipment.
Used H.O. Package of stairs, railings, and ladders to make what is seeing here. A friend is carving a couple lifeboats and I will make davits.
5 years ago by Ronald
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aeronaut classic
I have the following setup in my Classic:
graupner
BL Compact 260Z 1380KV with a
graupner
ESC 18A FWD and REV. The shaft is replaced with a Robbe 4mm (no 1442) as the one provided is a flimsy part that will not withstand the motor set-up. Prop is a 33mm
graupner
racing item. it is running on LiPo 2S but if one need a rocket it can run on 3S. Great fun to build and performs great on the water
5 years ago by Tica
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Proximity (Hall effect) sensor wiring
Absolutely Steve ๐
Alternative is to make a holder for the magnet to prevent it getting knocked off by weeds etc.
Also agree that any Failsafe' circuits must have an independent power supply.
Place to put the switch, or latching relay, is definitely in place of the little slide switch usually supplied on the ESC.
Just checked on some of my ESCs,
graupner
and mTroniks, the red lead to the switch is NOT connected to the red lead supplying the RX and servos via the built in BEC. Guess the switch just triggers an FET switch inside the ESC. So the normal 500mA limit of reed switches will be enough. if a latching relay is used make sure the pull-in current is less than 500mA. Have fun All, cheers, Doug ๐
Eric; which sub is your mate building?
I have a Type 1A U-Boat dynamic diver, speed and planes only, and a kit for an Akula 2 which will be a static diver, with tank etc.
5 years ago by RNinMunich
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Tarpon hardware help
Need help in selecting and matching motor, battery, ESC, prop etc. for my 1958 Tarpon scratch built from MM 494 plan.
I am years out of date with the hobby and a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing!
I have purchased a
graupner
Speed 600 8.4 Volt (4.8-9.6V) and an Mtroniks Speed M600 12 Volt. I also purchased the Mtroniks TIO Marine 30 Amp ESC .
Please advise if I am on the right track and which motor to use.
Also need help on prop and battery selection. Thank you, Gordon
6 years ago by Gordon-B
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Tarpon hardware help
Looking for more help please. I have settled for the
graupner
Speed 600 8.4 Volt (4.8-9.6V) with the Mtroniks TIO Marine 30 Amp ESC driving a 3 blade brass 35mm prop. I need advise on what size of NiMh pack to use and will it be under propped with the 35mm 3 blade?
6 years ago by Gordon-B
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(Tug Boat) Loch Ranza
I bought an unfinished
graupner
paddle steamer kit which was in a bit of a state and spent many happy hours making her look loved. The hull and paddle wheels were in an acceptable condition but the deck and superstructure left lots to be desired. The previous owner had purchased the motor which was 50.1 geared and pushes the boat along well all other bits including 'smoke' brass portholes and new superstructure added by myself.
She was a delight to finish and looks an absolute dream on the water. (Motor: MFA 919D series) (8/10)
6 years ago by ChrisG
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A return to the hobby!
Colin, thanks for the input; Iโm using a
graupner
45mm 2-bladed nylon, which was a recommendation from a local hobby shop.
6 years ago by J Barry
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Bluebird
Hi Biscuit, I have just watched your video's, nice to see more on the water. I see you have also posted pictures of the
graupner
Rhode island F1 tunnel hull. I also have one of these and as yet have not got around to giving it a run. I do not live near any ponds locally where I can be sure I'm allowed to run my models. 16 miles for an electric isn't far I also have IC powered and the nearest for those is almost 40 miles. I get very disheartened with the hobby but still cannot get it out of my vein's. I curious to know where you have fitted wedges under you Rhode island. What's the chance of posting a few pictures of the under side of her to give me some idea as to how you have done this. it would be nice to see so that I could also give it a go so as to make her a little better on her maiden run. Many thanks in advance and kind regards.
6 years ago by BOATSHED
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(Racing Boat)
graupner
Rhode Island
Lovely outboard boat, had to add some wedges to stop it hooking in the turns, but looks lovely (Motor:
graupner
2000 Kv) (ESC:
graupner
90 amp) (10/10)
6 years ago by Biscuit
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HMS BRAVE BORDERER
Hi Lyle.
Note your comments on planing strikes or the hard chine hull. I have a 52" Veron FPB. Powered by two
graupner
900 motors. When she gets up on the plane loads of wash coming over the rear deck. Am I right in thinking that if I fit a strake to each side of the hull at the bottom of the vertical skin and flush with the bottom of it it will assist in planing and keep wash away from the rear deck. if I fit them I intend to flare them towards the bow.
Regards
Kevin
6 years ago by kevinsharpe
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Pretend deck planking
Don't know if it is still available, but I downloaded the construction manual for the
graupner
Valvdiva, which has a joggled king plank and curved planking which is started on the outer edge of the deck. I haven't tried it yet, but it appears to be a good "how to." Greatest concern for me is bending the planks to the curve of the deck, as they are wider than their thickness.
6 years ago by Peejay
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Is there a way to...?
I am running a
graupner
360 with 3:1 gear box powered by 2400 NiMH 7.2 volt battery in this freighter.
Is there a way to put a governor in the system so that when my grandson controls the model he can run it fast?
I am not electronically apt so I am asking you who know such things.
6 years ago by Ronald
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electrical connectors
Hi, don't bother with the pics, just change the
graupner
connectors for bullets. Preferably the gold type.
Cheers, Doug ๐
6 years ago by RNinMunich
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electrical connectors
Hi Doug thanks again for your help , yes
graupner
connectors and yes the one that works well are bullet connectors I will post pictures tomorrow asap.
6 years ago by teejay
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electrical connectors
Hi TJ,
1: "grouper connectors"!? Do you mean
graupner
? Pics please.
2: What the heck are 'Halford connectors'? Bullet connectors perhaps?
3: Why two types of connectors at all?
4: Fuse; I actually recommended a fuse between the drive battery and the ESCs to protect both the ESCs and the motors.
The switch is normally for the RX only, unless you can find a high current switch which isn't too big to put between the drive battery and the ESCs.
Fuse for the RX supply is not normally necessary, especially if a BEC supply is used.
With a separate RX battery maximum a 2A fuse. The RX takes only a few milliamps BUT each decent size servo will take up to 500mA. So 2A will do for up to 4 servos.
Which motors by the way? Odd that they have different connectors๐ฒ
Cheers, Doug ๐
6 years ago by RNinMunich
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Pinkie Pie
Looks like a
graupner
'Commodore'. I built one in the 70s and looks identical (see pic)
6 years ago by jbkiwi
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PS Waverley
Hi Martin, My stanchions were pre-drilled, from
graupner
ca 30 Years ago.
Never 'eard of Modelling Timbers. Timber stanchions!!!๐ฒ
I "only" had to drill the holes in the decks (thought that was what you meant), there were enough of them. Much worse though was fitting all the two part portholes ๐ก Since fibre glassing the the hull I have to do that all over again๐ญ
Frankly I think anyone who gets so many stanchions made as castings without pre-drilled rail holes need his bumps feeling.
I thoroughly agree ref mini drills, too easy to snap fine drill bits. ๐
For precision / repetitive drilling I use my Proxxon mini milling machine as a drill press. if I need more than one of something I knock up a simple jig (usually from hardwood taken from demolished old furniture) to hold the work piece in the machine vice attached to the milling machine cross bed.
I took the irritating collet fixing off the mill and fitted a real 3 jaw chuck ๐
Happy 'Vincenting', All the best, Doug ๐
6 years ago by RNinMunich
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Veron Vosper F.P.B. 52''
Hi John. interested to know what kind of offers you have had. Boaty, yes Veron did an RTTL Rescue Target Towing Launch, they featured in the black and white film ' The sea shall not have them'. This though is their fast patrol boat. I believe it's called a 'Trinity class patrol boat and some were supplied to the Trinidad and Tobago navy. You will sometimes see the model bares the name Coureland Bay'. I have seen photos on this website of her. They were built by Vosper Thornycroft in Portsmouth. if I was building her I would put two meaty brushless motors n her which should bring a sprite lay planing performance. I have fitted two
graupner
900s in mine, which give her an excellent turn of speed. These are brushed motors but are not available any more. The hull space is vast so easily accommodates batteries with space for sound system working radar etc.
Regards
Kevin
6 years ago by kevinsharpe
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Old outboard motor...
Oh I know what to do with 'em, Doug, just not sure I could DO it!
I think if you need a quick outboard and won't pay
graupner
prices, you're stuck with a HobbyKing who do 2, both very similar, but about 65-70 quid a pop.
I've just realised my little vintage outboard will go on my little fibreglass clinker dinghy, making it a wee fishing boat. I will have to put 2 servos in the dolly (dressed as an old salt). One will turn it on and off and one will steer once I've put a tiller on it. No ESC needed. Old o/bs either run or not, so he can turn the little brass switch on and steer it. Painted harbour launch grey, with a couple of lobster pots and a dog, it'll be a sweet little model.
Martin
6 years ago by Westquay
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Old outboard motor...
Hi Doug, I do have a Hobbyking CNC ally one and now have a brushless inrunner for it. I got it when they were very cheap a while back. Wouldn't pay what they now want for them and
graupner
are always way overpriced.
I could be tempted with 7 quid for a Hobbies one though, just to see how it goes together.
The K&O are gorgeous but collector money and the Alterscale are dummies, albeit nice dummies and also bloody expensive.
I sliced the little vintage jobby I bought down the joint line with a fine saw blade in the minidrill today and all is well. it just needs new wires and some grease when I can find some good styrene/nylon grease. The motor is a two magnet Kako, many examples of which I have in store. Even has a nice little built in switch. I reckon 3 volts is probably all the transmission can take. The gears are not, as I assumed bevels, but 2 spur gears! I now have to find a way of making the prop shaft stay on the motor shaft!
I'm loving this restoration stuff. Painted the red on my Star yacht today with my best chisel headed sable and got a special 1/4 litre of the emerald green mixed in HMG enamel (the very best there is).
Tried to win a lovely Starlet off ebay, but some sod beat me to it last minute. I hope it leaks
Martin
6 years ago by Westquay
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VOSPER 46'' Crash Tender
Actually 4 pole ,
"
graupner
HPD 2920-4000
High-end brushless motor
Particularly suitable for: MiniMono, MiniHydro, MiniCats, MiniHydroplanes, aircraft with wingspan up to 1 m, off-road and on-road 1:12
Features
?Special CNC-machined housing for maximum heat dissipation
?High-efficiency 4-pole 12-slot brushless motor
?High-performance rotor with Kevlar reinforcement
?High-purity copper coils for optimised conductivity
?Extremely strong sintered neodymium magnets
?Intense torque at low weight
Specification
Operating voltage range : 4,2-16,8 V
No-load speed: 29600 U/min
All-up weight, approx. : 90 g
Free shaft length: 10 mm
Recommended controller: Navy V75 G7257
Output : 650 W
Number of poles: 4
Permissible motor direction : R und L
Nominal voltage: 7,4 V
Case length: 30 mm
Shaft diameter: 4 mm
Case diameter: 29 mm
Revolutions/Volt: 4000 "
Taken from one Google, first response at Cornwall Models Boats!๐
Note. 650W, Nominal voltage 7.4V. No wonder it's a bit quick on 11.1V ๐ฒ
Cheers, Doug ๐
6 years ago by RNinMunich
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VOSPER 46'' Crash Tender
I have a hawk BL60 and when setting up left it at 2 poles as I couldnโt find the number of poles on the
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HPD 2920 4000
And it works ok have fitted to of these in my crash Tender and both worked fine although I find it a bit fast with the 11 volt lipos
6 years ago by Elsrickle
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HELP needed re:
graupner
Neptun
Hi Ron
No, the yellow cranes in the second pic are on the original version, as the guy bought it. He then decided to convert it to a container feeder ship as shown in the first pic. They don't need on board cranes.
Cheers, Doug
6 years ago by RNinMunich
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HELP needed re:
graupner
Neptun
Your container idea shows two yellow cranes. I have no life boats, railings, forecastle deck hardware, anchors, masts, just what you see here.
6 years ago by Ronald
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HELP needed re:
graupner
Neptun
Tag Tica,
More like 1/96 or 1/100 according to the build reports I've seen here in Germany. Re lack of cranes; you could always build her as a Container Feeder ship! ๐ For example; Before
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZPUlHLJhEbY/UZvN8IKXRlI/AAAAAAAAA3U/GPYgm4i1Kl8/s720/IMG_0961.JPG
to After
https://www.rc-modellbau-schiffe.de/wbb2/index.php?thread/28885-ostseefeeder-1-100-umbau-
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-neptun/
Cheers, Doug ๐
6 years ago by RNinMunich
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HELP needed re:
graupner
Neptun
I have a nearly completed Neptun, but is also missing the cranes.
I have just done the hatches with tie downs.
As I recall the scale is approx 1:87 (H0) but please check if that is correct.
6 years ago by Tica
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Taycol Supemarine Resurrection
IN THE BEGINNING there was what looked like a pile of rust๐ฒ
which got soaked in WD40 for 24 hours!
After washing off with warm water and washing-up liquid, and drying in the sun for a few hours, the bearings (and copper wire brushes) were oiled, missing connecting links bridged, and 6V (with current limit 3A set) was cautiously applied. Lo and behold she rattled and protested BUT RAN! Oh! That nostalgic smell of ozone, and enough sparks to read a book by๐ค
Next connections were changed, to separate field and armature coils (brush gear), and connected to a standard brushed motor ESC (
graupner
Navy 30A) via my prototype converter board, and a Robbe Servo Tester to simulate TX and RX. lo and behold chapter 2; she ran forwards and backwards๐ and no sparks!
Now dismantled (last 3 pics) to start clean up and replacement of corroded parts. Sorry Col, I broked your motor๐๐
Armature was cleaned up and commutator polished; surprisingly lots of 'meat' on it so motor has not been run much.
Next stop; lathe to make some new frame spacers.
After that new bearing bushes cos the old Paxolin end plates have worn so that there's about 1/32" slop!
Will probably have to turn the drive shaft down from original 1/4" (6.35mm) to 5mm to remove last traces of rust and pitting.
Cheers All, Doug ๐
6 years ago by RNinMunich
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Calculating scale speed
Hi Colin, must admit I'm using some skills I didn't know I had, or had forgotten through disuse! it's been interesting though and I think I'm on the 'back straight' now. I'll write it up in the blog later.
For the ESC any decent 20A brushed ESC will do nicely. I've been doing the testing with a years old
graupner
Navy V30R and a Robbe Servo Tester, see pic.
Good idea with the SATNAV, 7mph seems to be Spot On ๐
Cheers, Doug ๐
6 years ago by RNinMunich
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(Working Vessel) Elke HF 408
This is a restoration project - my first radio control boat 'Elke', is a small fishing boat with plastic hull, a
graupner
kit, purchased in Germany when I was serving in the Army there in 1974. I am restoring it for my grandson. it used to be a good runner with a 6v battery, small electric motor, two servos, one wired so it could move boat in reverse as well as forward. A good little sailor, light in weight and a good pond model. Had to be careful of wave height. Anyway, it has been in the garage for 40 years now so much to do. The inside is a bit of a mess and everything has a layer of dust. I will fit a speed controller and NiMH battery. But nothing too difficult so hope to have it finished for Christmas. (Motor: 6v) (5/10)
6 years ago by Neil-S
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bulkheads
I have hopefully posted photos of stern/bow shape of bulkheads
+ side view of the hull. there are 20 frames in the hull. how can I
install x2
graupner
schottel [2335] at the bow. I will have to leave
out the keel under hull. thankyou Green. the plans are 1/50th
scale.
6 years ago by green72west
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Paddle tug Glasgow.
Hi Dave,
graupner
didn't go defunct!
They teamed up with JR in Korea to save the best bits of the company.
Happy hunting๐
Cheers, Doug ๐
6 years ago by RNinMunich
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Paddle tug Glasgow.
Hi Doug. I've actually done that, which is why I asked on here. There are no pics of the paddles in diagram form that I can use to compare mine to. Someone must have an old set maybe from years ago. I even thought of writing to
graupner
themselves, as it's a classic kit, but they went broke a few years ago. So now I don't know if the new owners will have the records. Anyway, I'll give it a go. Thanks again Doug.
Cheers, Dave ๐
6 years ago by rolfman2000
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Paddle tug Glasgow.
Hi Dave,
Just Google
graupner
paddle tug Glasgow and you'll get hundreds of hits to look at!
Here an example with many pics and tips. Also shows the boat on port side.
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2219390-
graupner
-Glasgow
Some close up pics of what you think is wrong would help us to track them down. Cheers, Doug ๐
6 years ago by RNinMunich
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keel/hull info
thanks for answer "bulkheads!!!" doug. I am not getting VSP units!! THE ยฃ200 each has something to do with decision. I am
getting when "ready"
graupner
schottel drive unit 11 [2335] x 2.
What i would like to know, [i have 1000 questions] do i need to
have 2 rudders???.
thanks, green.๐ค๐ค
6 years ago by green72west
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Vic Smeed air/Sea Rescue launch
Help required, I have just started to look again at this boat which I partly built the hull and upper works for many years ago from a model boats extra publication. Has anyone built this model as I have a number of questions re finishing the balsa hull, modern control and running gear for this model. It currently has a
graupner
Jumbo 540 motor installed but nothing done to the balsa hull or upper works or control
6 years ago by Will-I-Am