Probably because - "The root cause of lee helm is when the centre of pressure exerted by the wind on the sails falls too far forward of the centre of resistance of the hull—the natural point at which the hull tries to pivot. This tends to push the bow of the boat away from the wind. This can be due to a poor design, for example with the mast too far forward." Good ol' Wiki! 😉 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_helm Nice build 👍 Be interesting to see how a schooner rigged model would behave. Cheers, Doug PS love the Rescue Barge 👍
this was how she was first built. as a lobster smack with wet wells to bring the catch back alive. she is 40ins single mast single jib massive amount of sail area. short heavy pond keel.aux motor fitted and auto bilge pump fitted. hates a breeze above 5 knots. when the main is out about half, she suddenly becomes lee helmed. will rectify this in the near future. had a complete electrical at the pond, rescued by our rescue barge. difficult to keep on course, no wonder they went to schooner rig
The full size yacht club and the model boat section at Fishers Green, near Waltham Abbey has a welcome all comers Open Day. The Sailing Barge society will be coming with their models, come and have a sail. (No i/c, sorry) 2 lovely lakes, sail out of the boot, tables, tea, BBQ and proper toilets on the day..Free.
"This is certainly NOThe the model of a Thames or Coastal barge hull" I had come to that conclusion. Researching typical twin masted vessels with that sort of beam (thereby ruling out most schooners) it could be a Brixham Trawler or some kind of ketch. One suggestion was a Moray Firth Scaffie but I need to go to one of the local museums to see if there is a model or a drawing. Interesting clue - the rudder post is carried above the deck. I guess half the fun is trying to see what I can make of it and then get it on the water.
This is certainly NOThe the model of a Thames or Coastal barge hull The proportions are all wrong and it has a keel-a Thames/Coastal does not. Also the rudder is wrong for a Barge which .has the rudder hung from a stern post.
Hi Going on their advert it looks like an old H.F.M kit brought up to date, I had the H.F.M one back in 1990 that cost me all of £70.00, if I remember right I had to increase the under water size of the rudder. As for sailing I don't remember much as after a few times out, I found that sail boats just was not my thing. Sorry that I can not be any more help Fred
Having had an interest and connections with Thames Sailing Barges going back to the days when they still carried cargo under sail, I am contemplating building a model. I am a relative newcomer to modelling, so am considering the Speedline kit. What I really want to know is how this model sails. I'm not expecting speed, I just want to know if the performance is acceptable and she handles reasonably well. Hope someone can advise me. Nerys
Evenin' Colin, a nice 'roly-poly' hull you've got there 👍 I could imagine it as an Admiral's Barge or Pinnace 😉 Re frame fixing etc. I'll send you some pics of typical Dean's instructions for preparing glass fibre and plastic hulls. My experience of the 6V Decaperm in my Sea Scout was that it was decidedly sedate so it might suit a barge or pinnace style!? Cheers, Doug 😎
That looks better than the picture.If there were hauser guides in the gunwale then the shorter ones would be proper.Since the Brooklin did'nt have them then the longer ones are right.That makes it easier to lash onto a barge.
[Score: 5/10] 43" ps marion - Comments: still under construction. The original boat is still running at Mannum on the River Murray South Australia. The Marion was first commissioned in 1896 and the hull flowed i 1897 used as a barge then in 1900 was converted to a towing vessel having a Marshal & son 2 cylinder semi-portable steam engine and paddles plus a super structure added , in 1908 she was converted to a passenger and cargo then in to a passenger boat alone she spent money years on th Murray running between Renmark, Morgan, and Goolwa at the Murray mouth in 1989 she made her last commercial voyage under Captain Bill Drage from Renmark to Mannum were she was restored and runs lunch, and dinner cruses and over knight cruses. their will be a steam rally in November 2018 at mannum. for more information visit psmarion.com
Hi, I have just phoned my Dad about this event as he lives in Norwich. and has completed his model Norfolk Wherry about a year ago. His Large Wherry Model is on the outside wall of the 'The Museum of The Broads' boat shed.