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Norfolk Wherry Fans by Westquay Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 27 days ago
I have often admired Thames Barges in Maldon and on the East coast rivers, but find their complexity off-putting, fine , majestic things though they are. But for me the simplicity of a Norfolk/Suffolk wherry is very attractive and there are few books so much worth curling up with on a rainy November day as Black Sailed Traders by Roy Clark. OK, I can think of several, but you know what I mean. I am a very fussy sod and if I don't like how it looks, I can't get near it. To my eye, most foreign stuff is so much uglier than British, be they trains, cars, bikes, aircraft or boats. But then where would we be without Canadian woodies? Or the very occasional Italian car Martin

Norfolk Wherry Fans by Nerys Sub-Lieutenant   Posted: 27 days ago
Each to their own, Westquay. I've nothing against wherries, ideally suited for the waters they worked. I'm a Thames Barge lover myself but can appreciate any traditional working craft.

Norfolk Wherry Fans by Nerys Sub-Lieutenant   Posted: 27 days ago
There seems to be some misconceptions about Dutch Barges. Most of what we now refer to as Dutch barges were originally developed as fishing boats suited to the area in which they were working. There were many different types and far from just being used on the canals fished all waters of the Netherlands and were quite capable of taking on the sharp nasty seas of places like Hollandsche Diep and the Ooste Schelde. I can assure you, even the Ijselmeer can get choppy under the right conditions. In fact Dutch Schuyts brought cargoes of eels to London from about the 1600s and a berth was still kept for them until the early 20th century, They were typical of what we would now call a Dutch barge. There were quite small ones like the Schouw and the Grundel that were inshore and lake fishers, then they varied in size through the Botters, Hoogars and Lemeraaks to the Tjalk and the Klipper which were cargo carriers. The Klippers were roughly the same size as Thames Barges and sometimes bigger and were rigged as Gaff Ketches, similar to our West Country Ketches. They were mainly fairly heavily built well in keeping with traditional wooden working boats. In latter days, steel replaced wood but they still followed the traditional designs. Luckily, so many Dutch Barges are still being built as yachts, decorated and fitted out very traditionally and there is considerable interest in the many events held for them every year.

Norfolk Wherry Fans by Westquay Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 29 days ago
If it's a Dutch barge, finish it as one. I reckon the large handkerchief idea would do, Or piece of shirting fabric. You can glue the edges to look like seams. Glue a piece of thin rigging cord in as a bolt rope. Martin

Norfolk Wherry Fans by onetenor Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 29 days ago
Thanks for the heads up.I agree re the Wherry sails being heavy and their being "prettier" And yes they were enclosed. The Dutchies were much lighter with lighter sailcloth as they were on canals and didn't have to contend with the rigours of the sea.Also their journeys were short between pick up and drop off points. Much like a lot of our canal boats. Often carrying domestic supplies so their cargo needed to be "Get attable" frequently hence the tarpaulins instead of Hatch covers. With my barge being just ten inches and made of balsa a heavy cloth would capsize her. Their is little draught just side/draught/lee boards instead of a keel to keep them from being pushed side ways by the wind. I suppose I could just finish it as static but where's the fun in that? LOL Regards John O/T👍

Norfolk Wherry Fans by Westquay Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 1 month ago
Onetenor, wherries never had open holds. They were always covered with interlocking hard hatch covers which were piled up at one end when the cargo was loaded. The sails were huge, heavy, highly dressed things, so you really don't want anything too light. They were a heavy canvas dressed in fish oil and soot or were tarred, like the hulls. And really the boats were nothing like Dutch barges. They were much prettier! Martin

Norfolk Wherry Fans by onetenor Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 1 month ago
Still a bit on the heavy side. Fine silk "might" do but I might end up making loads of suits with Esaki tissue. There used to be a type of processed tissue with a slight gloss on it and a clothlike feel to it.Anyone know what it's called or where I can get it.The Barge is ten and a half inches long, not 8,with an open well deck. I could fit mini RC and a motor etc but it would be exposed. I could I expect cover it with a tarp as though it was carrying cargo. Some of you might suggest it's too small to bother with but it's like the peanut scale in the aircraft world. OR👍👍 A novelty TOY. Cheers all.

Norfolk Wherry Fans by onetenor Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 1 month ago
They put me in mind of Dutch Sailing barges. One of which I have an 8 inch working model of👍. At least supposedly but I can't find a suitable sail cloth that's not too heavy. Any ideas fellas?👍

Main Cabin almost Completed! by captaindoug1 Petty Officer   Posted: 2 months ago
looking good, my Brooklin that I built 25 years ago has pulled a 250 pound barge using a 4 blade brass prop. Keep up the build

Charging NiMhs, one for Doug?... by Westquay Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 2 months ago
Haverlock, seen that video too! All appear to say the same and that's what I've done several times, without effect. Interestingly the friendly Kiwi in the very next video says how tens of thousands have been used and they "jist work". Hmmm. I wouldn't touch one of those fancy programmable things with a barge pole. Least of all for a boat. I want 2 reliable functions (what used to be called 4 channels), as said above, I no longer plan on doing any aircraft, so if I were buying now I would have got a cheapie from Steve Webb, if he weren't out of stock! If I were in the market for a bust yer gut programme -necessary set I would go mad and buy a Jeti Duplex becuase if THAT didn't work it would go straight on my wall as a work of art, being the finest piece of engineering I've seen since the Coventry Climax FWM V8, which I will already have pressed into use as a coffee table. Czechs are SO clever. Cheers, Martin

Build manual/ instructions by commodore Sub-Lieutenant   Posted: 2 months ago
Ron, you can get all thevents information you'll need from the Association of Model Barge Owners website. Incidentally, for a sailing model, the best scale is 1/24th i.e. 1/2 Inch to one foot which gives a hull length of about 42 inches.

Build manual/ instructions by kmbcsecretary Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 2 months ago
It needs a complete refit Martin , fittings are missing the rigging is in a right mess with broken mast ect. I'm not a big fan of these boats but doing it as a favour for a club member. I have found plans online for a Thames barge which at a push I could possibly use.

Build manual/ instructions by Westquay Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 2 months ago
Does it need so much that we couldn't talk our way through it for you? I don't know a huge amount about sailing barges, but I know the basics and I have books about them as I am supposed to be making a 1/43rd scale model as a pattern for a kit for a model railway company's scenic accessories line. Martin

Build manual/ instructions by kmbcsecretary Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 2 months ago
Hi all I have been asked to renovate a Thames sailing barge, after some research I have discovered that it is this one style='background-color:yellow;'>barge.html Does anyone know where or have the build manual/ instructions that they could copy and email for me Thanks Ron

Fittings & Detail Parts by pittsfieldpete Lieutenant   Posted: 2 months ago
Greetings, everyone: I’m looking for an online sources that offer fittings & detail parts, especially for modern tugboats. I have Hobby Engine’s 1:36 scale Richardson tugboat which is already pretty well detailed, but I’d like to replace its two deckhouse life rings with better looking ones & add a few others in appropriate locations. I’m also looking for a life raft drum & a few other detail parts here & there. Most of all I’d like to find navigation lights for the mast. The housings can be most any material but the lenses must be clear. I’m going to remove all of the “dummy” navigation lights on the mast & replace them with LED-lighted ones. The boat came with working port & starboard sidelights so they won’t need to be replaced. I’ve got a dredging barge designed (in my head) to use as a companion for tug. I’ve got all of the basic materials stockpiled for the barge itself plus a nice lattice boom crane for the dredge. I found a beautiful metal clamshell bucket that’s a work of art to use with the crane, too. Although I could scratchbuild things bitts & bollards I’d consider buying some as a time saver. I’ll need portholes for the deckhouse, ventilators, etc. as well. I live in western Massachusetts which is a beautiful area but there aren’t any hobby shops nearby that stock ship fittings of any sort. I used to buy fittings from A.J. Fischer & Bliss Marine but they both went out of business a long time ago. I’ve found several online shops that sell ship kits & fittings but they’re mostly for small scale sailing vessels. I’d appreciate any suggestions. Thanks, Pete