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Wherry hull in GRP by Westquay Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 9 days ago
Hi Dave, as Arron is the name on the facebook chat heading I assumed, reasonably, that he is the one to talk to. It's perfectly possible to see faults in a product without actually having it in one's hand. I can see that the light reflections down the side show the sides to be not fairly curved. Years in the car design/prototyping game have ensured that (I, too, am a tool/patternmaker of many years experience, from 1/500th city models to full size Bugatti design models). I have a good eye and both are telling me that hull in the picture I was sent isn't top drawer. The top edge of the hull is very woolly, not smoothly trimmed, but the main objection is that it's not clinker and that is a major problem for a wherry, considering only Albion was carvel. With a clinker model we could have a selection of different craft. With carvel, every model would be Albion, a little tedious at the pondside, I'm sure you would agree. Perhaps you could produce a pattern by gluing planks on to the basic GRP structure? Then re-mould. To counter the balance of such a big sail in a blow you will also need a fin keel, but that's down to the builder really, though your experiments with waterline would be useful for buyers of the hull as to weights required, etc. I don't wish to pee on your bonfire, but with a history of so many very good (and obviously so) GRP hulls on the market, we have come to expect a bang-on quality from the word go. Of course, any company new or old, who are prepared to listen to criticism and act on it are more than welcomed. Perhaps some different photos of the hull would satisfy us as to its shape and moulding quality? If it were a lot better than that one photo shows, I would be prepared to buy one still and then glue suitable planks to it to get my clinker model if that proves possible. I can't really say fairer than that. Cheers, Martin

Wherry hull in GRP by Westquay Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 10 days ago
Arron, the first thing to do is make the pattern a clinker construction. Your website showed that you were using CAD to develop plank shapes. I have no idea if that's possible, but if you can do CAD and it is possible why is the model carvel? Secondly the sides show a great deal of wobbliness to the shape. What car designers would describe as "flabbiness". There is no strength to the form. It goes in and out. Maybe the layup is not thick enough in that area. The side view isn't bad, if a little indistinct. Maybe in the trimming, but then a well laid up hull will trim much better. There should be a sheer line moulded in to which the deck level can be trimmed. I'm sure anyone wanting a model of Albion will be delighted to find a GRP hull at last, but for a wider audience you would have been better off taking a little longer and making a clinker version. Wherries were so varied in length/tonnage that a clinker model could cover as many as 3 popular scales at the extremes. BTW, I didn't say 3D was all you did, only that as a young guy it was very likely 3d printed since you will have learned the necessary CAD. I wish my son could do the same as he has 3 printers already, but can only use free files. If I could do CAD, I would be dangerous Cheers, Martin

Painting by Falmouth1729 Sub-Lieutenant   Posted: 10 days ago
Hi, do you guys use airbrush or aerosol cans for painting? Thinking in terms of a “plastic” grp hull etc. Thank you in advance.

GRP hulls by the million... by Westquay Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 11 days ago
Hi Doug, 36" even at 1/350 scale. Ye Gods, they really were big devils, eh? I always thought Hood was a very attractive ship. My loft was going to be my slot track home, then I went to stand up...DoH! not even crouch room, never mind head room, so storage it is. My Sea Urchin, Veron Veronica yacht, vintage Marblehead and Dorada are all up there. There is so much insulation up there that you can't see where the joists are when poking about. But I'm lucky to have a 6x6 foot brick shed with a Fort Knox type door, so models can also go up in the rafters of that too. Vanity on the side bench, currently. That's also where the bandsaw lives, the table saw and where silver soldering happens. Just out of interest, I've noticed there's a lot of photo-etch detail for 1/350 scale. Do you use that? I'd be interested to see your Hood when it's done. Cheers, Martin

GRP hulls by the million... by RNinMunich Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 11 days ago
Evenin' Martin, Seem to remember we had this discussion about a year ago, when I mentioned that my warships are all around 4 to 5 feet! 😉 A new challenge is to motorise 1/350 versions of Hood, Ark Royal and Prince of Wales. They come out at about 28" to 36". Big enuff I reckon. I envy you your loft 😉 All the best, Doug 😎 PS: thanks for the tip about old credits cards for filler 👍 I just used an otherwise now useless Air Berlin Top Bonus 😭 to apply filler to the Danish Fish Cutter I am renovating and converting from static to RC. Works great 😊 I plan to use the Taycol Target I modified last year to go both forward and astern under RC.

GRP hulls by the million... by Westquay Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 11 days ago
I find most miniaturisation fascinating, but boats don't go on scale water and the bobbing about makes my lip curl. Also you're da man for lecktrickery which doesn't appeal to me one bit. I like the larger scales for detail. 30-40 inch hulls is OK for me. I can stack those in the shed or the loft. M

GRP hulls by the million... by RNinMunich Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 11 days ago
Alles klar😉Each to his own. Some of us just like the 'Plastic Magic' challenge of making things work at smaller scales. Anyway I don't have the room for 1/24 or larger. Nix für Ungut 😉 Doug 😎

GRP hulls by the million... by Westquay Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 12 days ago
Doug, I'm only looking at the RAF boats. As you know I don't do military (offensive military), so I wouldn't be looking at the HMS type of thing and even if I was, I'm not a fan of tiddler versions of capital ships. Too corkish on the water for my liking. So 1/24th is a minimum scale for working models for me. Of course 35th or even 72nd is fine for the big stuff, if that's what he does, but I was only looking for hard chinery. Cheers, Martin

GRP hulls by the million... by RNinMunich Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 12 days ago
What's static about 1/72 or 1/35??? Or even 1/128 or smaller? H class destroyer & Type IIA U-Boat 1/72, PTB 1/35, Belfast & Graf Spee 1/128. 1/350 HMS Hood and Prince of Wales on the stocks. Motor, ESC, servo and RX fit packages already prepared. Cheers, Doug😎 'Nichts ist unmöglich' 😁

GRP hulls by the million... by Westquay Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 12 days ago
Well, OK, maybe not a million, but more than you can shake a stick at and rather nice to boot, provided you want 1/24th for action or 1/72nd and 1/35th for statics. I really don't know when this geezer sleeps. mtbhulls.com Nice quality work. Shame, I am a 1/16th scale man. Martin

At last, as step nearer to completion for the Crash tender... by Westquay Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 17 days ago
Hi all, well having been disappointed by the non arrival of the wherry GRP hull as an early birthday present, my dear bride has agreed to let me send off to SLEC for a set of Crash Tender fittings. I was going to get them in white metal from Ivan at ipengineering, who had them and all the Rowell kits, but he darts from one thing to another and next thing I know is he's flogged it all to SLEC, so I have a set of 1/16th fittings coming to replace the long stolen set of Ripmax Mersey Marine fittings I got with the Crash Tender when I was 11. I had a new brother arriving at the time and would be chucked out of my boxroom, so Dad went nuts and got me the whole kit and caboodle from a new exciting R/C and boat shop in Collier Row, Romford for my 11th Christmas. Alas, the REP single channel R/C set has also been stolen, but the boat and its Taycol Supermarine are here still and now might even finally get finished. As a 12 year old I used the model in an unfinished state on Essex oyster beds for years after, using up lantern batteries like they were growing on trees by the River Roach. Going left, centre,right,centre, but I was having a whale of a time. I shall put an old set of early propo. in it, 27 meg, of course, so stay off green frequency if you don't mind. I was thinking it should be finished as a 60s model, but I can't resist the lure of detailing it now we have all the info thanks to this website, so rather than finding space for 2 of them I'll detail this one after all. The wherry will have to wait. Oh and that brother? He's due here in an hour having come over for a tour of the old country from his life in Australia with his 22 year old son! And he's going back with some old model boat plans from Gary Griswold and The Rudder, which I have amassed, so the tradition continues. I will work on the nephew! Cheers, Martin

Scimitar-class patrol vessel by CB90 Commander   Posted: 17 days ago
Two vessel in it class (1) HMS Scimitar (2) HMS Sabre Launched: December 1992 Displacement: 24,000 kg Builder: Portsmouth Armament: 2 × General purpose machine guns (stern-mounted) Complement: 7 (1 officer, 6 ratings) Gibraltar Squadron's two Scimitar-class boats are the smallest commissioned vessels in the Royal Navy. This build was to produce a fun semi scale racing boat, I have always liked the Archer class boats cabin design. So after finding a suitable hull, an old 'Models by Design' GRP moulding I was away with the rest of the build. Striped out all old fittings and remnants removed excess glue. Added strakes to the hull to add lift for planning and control. Produced a semi scale deck and cabin from light ply. Thanks for your interest Roy

Wherry hull in GRP by Westquay Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 27 days ago
Cheers, KMB. I couldn't find one either. Odd, because I once bought a pair of built boats (Albions) and then sold them when I moved as I had no space. And they were both GRP hulls. Wish I had them now! Although I still find a carvel Wherry somehow wrong. I have Wherries and Waterways, but for sheer atmosphere Black Sailed Traders, by Roy Clark, is the one for me and it also has good drawings of Gleaner in it. I can't personally see why the Thames Barge is so much more popular. The Wherry sailed better with fewer sails and crew and I reckon it was a much more attractive shape AND they had a lot of real races for them, too. Looks like I might have to make a hull and offer its use to a GRP moulder as a pattern in exchange for the first decent moulding. Then I can race a wooden one against a GRP one. In 1/16th scale it'll be 40" long, which is a nice size with a beam of 10 1/2". And it's the same scale as my Vanity cutter and my Crash Tender. Martin

Wherry hull in GRP by Westquay Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 28 days ago
Hi all, to save time, I'd like to find a GRP hull for a wherry model. Preferably around 1/16th scale to go with my Vanity model, but around 36-40 inches. Are there such things? Cheers, Martin

KD "Perkasa" by Flack Admiral   Posted: 2 months ago
For Sale: 1/32 scale GRP Hull Vosper Thorneycroft KD "Perkasa" new in box and complete. Length - 37 inches (935mm) Beam - 91/4 inches (235mm) £75 plus postage