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Norfolk Wherry Fans by Westquay Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 26 days ago
I have often admired Thames Barges in Maldon and on the East coast rivers, but find their complexity off-putting, fine , majestic things though they are. But for me the simplicity of a Norfolk/Suffolk wherry is very attractive and there are few books so much worth curling up with on a rainy November day as Black Sailed Traders by Roy Clark. OK, I can think of several, but you know what I mean. I am a very fussy sod and if I don't like how it looks, I can't get near it. To my eye, most foreign stuff is so much uglier than British, be they trains, cars, bikes, aircraft or boats. But then where would we be without Canadian woodies? Or the very occasional Italian car Martin

Norfolk Wherry Fans by Nerys Sub-Lieutenant   Posted: 26 days ago
Each to their own, Westquay. I've nothing against wherries, ideally suited for the waters they worked. I'm a Thames Barge lover myself but can appreciate any traditional working craft.

Norfolk Wherry Fans by Nerys Sub-Lieutenant   Posted: 27 days ago
There seems to be some misconceptions about Dutch Barges. Most of what we now refer to as Dutch barges were originally developed as fishing boats suited to the area in which they were working. There were many different types and far from just being used on the canals fished all waters of the Netherlands and were quite capable of taking on the sharp nasty seas of places like Hollandsche Diep and the Ooste Schelde. I can assure you, even the Ijselmeer can get choppy under the right conditions. In fact Dutch Schuyts brought cargoes of eels to London from about the 1600s and a berth was still kept for them until the early 20th century, They were typical of what we would now call a Dutch barge. There were quite small ones like the Schouw and the Grundel that were inshore and lake fishers, then they varied in size through the Botters, Hoogars and Lemeraaks to the Tjalk and the Klipper which were cargo carriers. The Klippers were roughly the same size as Thames Barges and sometimes bigger and were rigged as Gaff Ketches, similar to our West Country Ketches. They were mainly fairly heavily built well in keeping with traditional wooden working boats. In latter days, steel replaced wood but they still followed the traditional designs. Luckily, so many Dutch Barges are still being built as yachts, decorated and fitted out very traditionally and there is considerable interest in the many events held for them every year.

Build manual/ instructions by kmbcsecretary Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 2 months ago
It needs a complete refit Martin , fittings are missing the rigging is in a right mess with broken mast ect. I'm not a big fan of these boats but doing it as a favour for a club member. I have found plans online for a Thames barge which at a push I could possibly use.

Build manual/ instructions by kmbcsecretary Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 2 months ago
Hi all I have been asked to renovate a Thames sailing barge, after some research I have discovered that it is this one https://www.modeljetdrives.com/thames-barge.html Does anyone know where or have the build manual/ instructions that they could copy and email for me Thanks Ron

Thames sailing barge Capricorn by tomarack Commander   Posted: 3 months ago
Hi, in last wekend I participated in the open championship Footy in South Moravia, near Znojmo .. in Vyrovice , Vyrovice dam. The technique betrayed me, footy ruder servo burned during race. Then I participated in open regata with my barge Capricorn. It was my first race. my model also had the first opportunity to sail on "big water". It turned out that I need to adjust the sails to add and manage a large jib servo. Technique was against me once more..maybe battery collapsed after first round in second race. At home I found..battery Ok , but something collapsed .. Weather nice and hot, but the wind was very weak, so the models of the racing sailboats were the first .. My photos..> http://tomarack.rajce.idnes.cz/Mistrovstvi_footy_Vyrovice_20... I placed on board Capricorn deck cam, but after about 20 minutes the battery was discharged, i did not expected it... and I didn't expect the battery discharge will be so quick... Deck cam >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6izcQCeYN0&feature=youtu.be greetings Tom

Wherry hull in GRP by kmbcsecretary Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 3 months ago
I'm with you there Martin I've never been a fan of the Thames barges but I was researching something else and stumbled across the wherry and i thought that's a craft I need to build besides the beauty of it the layout of the mast being so far forward it just defines all logic of what we understand when it comes to sail powered craft , it should have it's nose permanently submerged with a tail wind. If you like I could scan and email the articles from the magazine's just send me a pm if you want them Ron

Wherry hull in GRP by Westquay Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 3 months ago
Cheers, KMB. I couldn't find one either. Odd, because I once bought a pair of built boats (Albions) and then sold them when I moved as I had no space. And they were both GRP hulls. Wish I had them now! Although I still find a carvel Wherry somehow wrong. I have Wherries and Waterways, but for sheer atmosphere Black Sailed Traders, by Roy Clark, is the one for me and it also has good drawings of Gleaner in it. I can't personally see why the Thames Barge is so much more popular. The Wherry sailed better with fewer sails and crew and I reckon it was a much more attractive shape AND they had a lot of real races for them, too. Looks like I might have to make a hull and offer its use to a GRP moulder as a pattern in exchange for the first decent moulding. Then I can race a wooden one against a GRP one. In 1/16th scale it'll be 40" long, which is a nice size with a beam of 10 1/2". And it's the same scale as my Vanity cutter and my Crash Tender. Martin

Streamline Models by Nerys Sub-Lieutenant   Posted: 3 months ago
Thanks for that Doug, There are several hulls for Thames Barges available, but to me, a novice, the complexity of fittings required is rather daunting and the Speedline kit does contain everything. The disadvantage is the smaller size whereas the Fleetscale hull is more in keeping with the size most common amongst model barge builders. Cheers, Nerys.

Streamline Models by Nerys Sub-Lieutenant   Posted: 3 months ago
I have been considering building 'Annie', but the company that I have seen advertising this Thames Barge Kit is called Speedline Models. Presumably we are talking about the same model. Best regards, Nerys.

Speedline Thames Barge kit. by deepdiver Commander   Posted: 4 months ago
Hi Going on their advert it looks like an old H.F.M kit brought up to date, I had the H.F.M one back in 1990 that cost me all of £70.00, if I remember right I had to increase the under water size of the rudder. As for sailing I don't remember much as after a few times out, I found that sail boats just was not my thing. Sorry that I can not be any more help Fred

Speedline Thames Barge kit. by Nerys Sub-Lieutenant   Posted: 4 months ago
Having had an interest and connections with Thames Sailing Barges going back to the days when they still carried cargo under sail, I am contemplating building a model. I am a relative newcomer to modelling, so am considering the Speedline kit. What I really want to know is how this model sails. I'm not expecting speed, I just want to know if the performance is acceptable and she handles reasonably well. Hope someone can advise me. Nerys

Thames Barge & Norfolk Wherry Open Regatta. by Gascoigne Captain   Posted: 5 months ago
Hope your Dad can bring his wherry along for the event. We had a good chat together at the broads museum. Will be very interested to see him at the event with the new wherry.

Thames Barge & Norfolk Wherry Open Regatta. by CB90 Admiral   Posted: 5 months ago
Hi, I have just phoned my Dad about this event as he lives in Norwich. and has completed his model Norfolk Wherry about a year ago. His Large Wherry Model is on the outside wall of the 'The Museum of The Broads' boat shed.

Thames Barge & Norfolk Wherry Open Regatta. by Baggie Fleet Admiral!   Posted: 5 months ago
Will be on holiday - I am sorry to miss this. I would encourage anyone to go to this event though - it is a great boating pond and very friendly people.