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    📝 Moonbeam - J class rig
    6 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    The original Moonbeam rig is quite large and the boat is unbalanced at times. A new rig was made using B rig sails designed for a Nottingham 48 J Class. The boat sails much better and looks like a "proper yacht"



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    📝 Bella
    6 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    This is a well known kit and does produce a very good model, that sails well. The keel/fin has been "thickened" with an additional layer of plywood each side, to increase the stiffness and so an aerofoil section can be formed. The jib works directly off the servo arm, while the mainsheet has a 2:1 system to create enough travel, so the mainsail can go all the way out. The sails are made from some Dacron, rather than the light weight cloth supplied with the kit.



    📝 Nuts & Bolts
    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    Check they are stainless or brass, the zinc coated ones rust. Consider PEEK (plastic) quite often strong enough. A set of taps are very useful.

    📝 Another project boat
    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi Neil

    Is your yacht project a Star boat from Birkenhead?



    https://www.birkenheadstaryachts.co.uk/
    💬 Re: First Sail
    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi Roy

    I do think your gaff version looks great, a touch of a Norfolk Broads boat about it. Perhaps I'll look at how I could make another rig for my Bella. Would be interested to see how you fitted the extra servo in for the second sail/jib.

    Had another sail today in slightly less wind, so it was a better test. The servo for the sails was OK - occasionally there was a need to luff up so the sails were pulled in but once in the servo seemed to hold them tight. I made a 2:1 system for the main, this does mean this is let out slightly further than the jib but in gusty winds this does help balance the boat, as it releases some of the power and helps stop the boat turning up into the wind.

    I'll leave the trim as it is - did think about moving the batteries but it would mean removing the cockpit each time the batteries need replacing. Another couple of sails may show some other issues and it would be good to sail it alongside some other boats.

    📝 Second Sail
    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    The second sail was in slightly lighter winds, so it was a better test of how well the boat sailed




    💬 Re: First Sail
    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    Thanks Roy
    Like your idea for the side benches. I did keep the left wood from the deck, not certain why but it seemed to good to throw away. I’ve only sailed the boat once but did feel it was a little bow down, so may look at adding a touch of weight in the stern. Don’t think there’s enough space for the batteries.

    The servo is “one I had” but if it proves “weak” I’ll look at replacing it with a HiTec HS 625, which I think has a higher torque but is the same size as the one I’ve used.

    I’ll let you know how I get on.

    If you’re ever passing Fleetwood - it’s not far off the M6 - please drop in, it’s an excellent purpose built pond.

    💬 Re: Cockpit
    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    thanks for the compliment - However the tabernacle is false and its all glued together - but this is not glued to the boat - so once the sheets are unattached and the shrouds released, the mast just lifts off, so its easy to transport.

    📝 First Sail
    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    It was a touch windy really and in the gusts the boat did get knocked over - on a lighter wind day I'll try and make a video.

    📝 Cockpit
    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    The deck has been varnished and cockpit is made but this does need a few more coats.

    📝 Building Bella
    8 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    This is a well known kit and there are plenty of examples to be found via a search of the internet. This kit was acquired via a friend from a person who had bought it but it was never started. The original purchaser had also obtained two servos and had kindly printed off the English version of the instructions. The pictures show the progress so far, more can be found @



    https://building-katie.blogspot.com/2023/02/
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    💬 Re: Moonbeam with J class sails
    8 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi Derek I did wonder about approaching Dave Metcalf about the purchase of just a hull moulding. I do think the shape is great and it would be interesting to make another with a different deck layout. Id perhaps change the rudder design and make one out of thin ply, rather than the plastic version. With the original rig it’s not possible to add a back stay, so added an extra set of shrouds. However with the Bermuda J rig there is space for a back stay and the whole thing feels much more robust.

    💬 Re: Moonbeam with J class sails
    8 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi Derek, thanks for reading about the building of the Moonbeam. I haven’t been on the MB forum for some time. There is another description on there, the quality of the build was excellent and very helpful.

    📝 Servos Required for Aeronaut's Yacht Bella
    8 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi, if you search on the internet for HiTec servos, there is a 2 page PDF that can be downloaded and shows all the different servos. The 325 and 425 are more robust - and expensive - versions of the 311 but physically the same size.

    📝 Servos Required for Aeronaut's Yacht Bella
    8 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    Part of the kit is a mounting board for two servos. The holes in this are cut and the HiTec HS-311 fits perfectly. One for the rudder and the other for the sails. I think it will only just give enough movement for the sails, the kit comes with an arm. Will looking at using a 2:1 system for the main sheet so there is more travel.

    💬 Re: Moonbeam with J class sails
    8 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi Derek
    Yes, the sails are for a Nottingham 48. They are a B “middle set" and I got them from PJ Sails in Poole. The mast and booms are dowel.

    📝 Moonbeam with J class sails
    8 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    Although the Moonbeam was a classic looking yacht, it was certainly over canvas. Therefore I decided to re-rig it with a Nottingham J class second set of sails. It seems well balanced and still looks like a classic yacht. The video is from its first sail.

    💬 Re: Moonbeam - sailing yacht
    8 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    Although the Moonbeam was a classic looking yacht, it was certainly over canvas. Therefore I decided to re-rig it with a Nottingham J class second set of sails. It seems well balanced and still looks like a classic yacht. The video is from its first sail.



    💬 Re: Sideways Step or Two.
    8 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    some impressive drilling - certainly difficult and I'm sure using the mill ensured correct spacing. Well done.

    📝 Aeronaut's Yacht Bella
    8 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi Greg - you can download the instructions for both Bella and Bellissima- which is the larger model. There's plenty of forums/blogs based in Germany that record builders progress - most have a "translate" button.

    I'd recently acquired via a friend from a person who had bought a Bella kit but it was never started. I've made start and you can have a look if its any help.



    https://aero-naut.de/24159-2/
    https://building-katie.blogspot.com/
    💬 Re: Aeronaut Bella sail boat
    9 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    Looks like you made an excellent job of building it, well done. There is a great pleasure in building a boat and then actually seeing it sailing, it’s a pity more people don’t explore this more.

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    📝 Model Boats Magazine - Eventide
    9 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    It’s interesting to see the magazine actually have some content about sailing boats and don’t normally buy it for this reason. However I tried to buy a copy yesterday but couldn’t find one for sale, obviously missed my chance.

    📝 Building My First Sail Boat or Yacht
    9 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    Try a :

    Aeronaut Bella Sailing Yacht kit


    https://www.modelboats.co.uk/news/article/bella/25218
    https://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/aeronaut-bellissima-3012-00.html
    📝 Building My First Sail Boat or Yacht
    9 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    Agree with Ron, go for an Emma. Lots of info and help available online.

    Also look at the RCgroups forum for lots builders experiences.

    💬 Re: Emma
    9 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    There were a few small "tweaks" I made during construction & after finishing the boat.

    How the rudder was constructed and changing the jib "set up" to a balanced boom, which helped keep the jib in shape, were two of the more obvious.

    💬 Re: Emma
    9 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    Good luck. Look forward to seeing her on the water. Perhaps one day all the Emma’s will get together for a regatta.

    📝 Emma
    10 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    This is the most straight forward of the Bearospace designs. It sails very well and was a pleasure to build. There's lots of help to be found on the designer's Youtube channel. The bulk of the materials came from B&Q, they sell a 3.2mm thick plywood, which when measured is more like 3mm. The construction was completed using West Epoxy with some filler, to create fillets on the inside.



    http://www.bearospaceindustries.com/boats2.html
    💬 Re: Final tests
    10 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    Good luck with the first sail. Well done on getting the rig to “collapse” makes for an easier transport.

    💬 Re: Gluing the deck and hull together
    10 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    This is looking very very impressive
    Like other viewers, I’m looking forward to seeing it on the water.

    💬 Re: "J Class Yacht "
    10 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB ( Warrant Officer)
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    A proper yacht, if only all sailing boats were so elegant.



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