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BRIGANTINO GOLETTA (SCHOONER BRIG) "FRANCESCA".
Greetings to all naval modelers.
In this section of the site (I hope I got it right this time) I want to include a 1:50 scale model that I invented many years ago.
It is not taken from kits or existing projects.
It was born as a toy to entertain my son but little by little I added slightly more accurate modeling elements.
I designed the hull but without using software, I drew it with pencil and paper. However, if you are not capable of designing a hull, the software is of little use.
It's not beautiful (let's even say a little ugly), I know this, because it wasn't born with a homogeneous project but is the result of ideas that came along little by little.
I'm fond of it and "every cockroach is beautiful for its mother" ahahahahahah.
However, it was very useful for me to do nautical tests and learn the rudiments of electronics on board RC models.
The motor is a 24 volt brushed motor but is normally powered by 6 volts. However, there is the possibility of bringing it up to 12, 18 and 24 volts. Up to 12 volts has been tested, above no.
It has no protruding fins or keels and can navigate in about 10cm of water.
Her name is FRANCESCA but I gave her to my son.
I will not include all the assembly phases but only some summary photos, so as not to bore you with an already finished model.
Of course, if anyone asks I will be available for any details.
I will only post four or five more messages related to the most interesting sailings, with very short descriptions of the places.
Length on deck: 80 cm
length on the waterline when empty: 78 cm
length on the waterline at full load: 80 cm
overall length: 112 cm
maximum width: 21.2 cm
full load draft
with three steel bars
on the eyelashes: 12.5 cm
empty draft
with three steel bars on the eyelashes: 8.5 cm
tree height: 41.5 cm
height from keel to deck: 17.5 cm
total height: 59 cm
weight without batteries: 5.42 kg
weight with three batteries
lead acid VRLA AGM, 6V 4Ah: 6.27 kg
motto: LEPANTO 1571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP_JzRoamPk
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๐ Question of the Day?
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Hi Ross, I completely agree with you.
Without offense or criticism, because everyone is free to think as they wish, I think this is a very interesting topic and absolutely consistent with this site and with naval modeling.
I like knowing the name and function of each element that makes up a hull, the rigging and the sails.
I know them very well because it's a fun topic for me, and now, thanks in part to this site, I'm even learning the English terms.
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๐ฌ Re: Business end
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Follow your aesthetic taste, Jumpugly, you do very well.
I'm not a big fan of super-fast boats, but I have to say that your construction is fascinating and intriguing me precisely because of the way you describe it.
The construction phases are very interesting.
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๐ฌ Re: Business end
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Hi Jumpugly, it has to please and satisfy you, so it's fine.
I can't quite see the extent and effect of the change; the difference must be very small, or the photo doesn't quite capture the reality.
Is it a slightly lighter shade than the previous one?
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๐ Antique compass for a ship from the second half of the 18th century.
2 days ago by
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Hi Ross, no, I didn't actually mean to challenge you, but now you've reminded me that your model is 1:24 scale.
Actually, to verify this, I had to reread a post of yours from about two years ago in which you described the Bluenose model, its length, and its scale.
Yes, I'm convinced that with your skills, if you wanted, you could make a compass that would be a small masterpiece.
There's just one problem: you have a very specific reference naval model, so you should look for photos and drawings of its compass. I have no idea what the Bluenose's compass looked like.
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๐ Antique compass for a ship from the second half of the 18th century.
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Thanks, Chris, I agree. Wood and brass are great aesthetic elements.
If it were 1:24 scale, it would have been a beautiful, meticulously crafted piece.
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๐ Antique compass for a ship from the second half of the 18th century.
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Hi Phil, I'll give it a try, I hope I succeed and don't disappoint you.
With the lifeboats, I was blinded by both the hull and the details, but it was worth it.
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๐ Question of the Day?
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I wish you a speedy recovery, EdW. When you're well, you can answer today's questions.
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๐ Question of the Day?
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The topic has already been covered but the question was different.
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๐ Antique compass for a ship from the second half of the 18th century.
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Hi Ross, I don't think I fully understood the question, sorry.
If you mean I'll create a "build blog" section just for this element, the answer is definitely no.
Just dedicate a dedicated topic on the forum.
My idea is this:
A ship model has many phases and many interesting parts.
I'll list a few just as an example:
Hull construction.
Mast construction.
Sails.
Rigging.
Propulsion.
Propeller shaft.
Waterproofing.
Painting.
Lifeboats.
Sail control system.
Lateral stability.
Buoyancy.
Other deck elements.
Some people (after seeing the finished model) might be interested in just one of these topics and be curious to understand how it was made.
For example, in a few months, or a year, or even tomorrow, someone might be interested in knowing how the lifeboats were made (which are a separate project for the hull as well).
Well, it will be very complicated and difficult to search for this single topic in the topic dedicated to building the model because it is now so vast. The slowness of the search will discourage you.
If, however, the topic of lifeboats is discussed in the forum as a separate topic, it will be very easy (even after a long time) to do a text search.
I say this because I myself searched for some old messages in the gunboat schooner topic and had a lot of trouble and time finding them.
In fact, I also recommend that you, who are building a very complex model, divide the subtopics (perhaps linking them to the main topic to maintain an overview).
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๐ Antique compass for a ship from the second half of the 18th century.
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Yes, Chugalone, I intend to make the compass from scratch using the photos I attached to build one as similar as possible.
I'll use wood and brass.
I don't think I could make such a piece with a 3D printer; I think it's objectively difficult to make a piece less than 2 cm tall with all that detail.
Consider that a 1.80 m tall man is 3 cm tall in scale, so the compass (which will be at stomach height) will need to be about 1.20 m, more or less.
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๐ Antique compass for a ship from the second half of the 18th century.
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Good evening everyone.
After putting it off for a long time, out of laziness, I've decided to make one of the last pieces to complete the model.
It's the compass.
With a larger scale, I could have made a beautiful, valuable piece, but at 1:60 it will probably be a bit sloppy, certainly not accurate.
I still have to make it myself because the finished piece is available, but it's a bit out of scale and I don't like it, so I hope to do better.
I'm attaching the photos I think I'll draw inspiration from.
I used one of those photos to transfer it into my drawing program. This way, I can get an idea of โโthe dimensions and proportions.
From the first drawing traced on the photo, I created another that better fits the wooden pieces I already have (cylinders and spheres).
From this, I then created the 1:60 scale model.
Now I'll have to start cutting, gluing, sanding, painting, etc.
I've decided to create a separate topic because I realized I made a mistake by describing the entire ship model in a single thread.
Now, with 548 posts, it's practically impossible to search for old posts, much less go over the entire construction process from the beginning. It's a very long and tedious job, even with very powerful computers.
At the end of this post, I'll link to the construction the compass refers to, and in that topic, I'll link to this one.
I should have done this from the beginning.
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๐ Mary Ann 472
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Hi Ron, as I was telling you, that type of anchor is called an admiralty anchor.
In the model preceding the one I'm finishing now, I used a much simpler solution. I used a Hall-type anchor (see photo) partially protruding from the hawsehole.
A small aside regarding translations, which we discussed privately: in Italian, it's called "occhio di cubia" (a hawsehole); well, no normal translator like Google Translate finds the correct nautical term. Google translates it as "hawse eye," which is incorrect.
This time, I know why we're using the word "occhio" (eye). In ancient times (Roman, Greek, Egyptian, and Phoenician ships), fake eyes were painted around those holes.
I couldn't do the same for the current model because it wouldn't have been consistent with the historical period.
I saw that the admiralty anchor was perfect and was actually used for those types of ships.
I could have built it myself, but since I'd already wasted a lot of time and the Amati one was very well made, I decided to buy them ready-made.
I then studied the system for placing it on board, as you can see from the photos.
Initially, I was perplexed by your choice because I thought it was an anchor used mainly on large military vessels.
Although it fell into disuse and was replaced by other, more modern types, it was very widespread and used in its time (and for a long period of time) in many fields.
I can confirm that the stock (in Italian "ceppo") was removable and secured with a cotter pin. However, I advise against placing the anchor vertically resting on the gunwale (especially without tying it down) because in reality, with the rolling and pitching movements, it would certainly fall.
It wouldn't be realistic to place an anchor resting like that, even at anchor.
An inboard anchor is fine for that type of vessel, but it would be better to place it on the deck and secure it with some ropes.
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๐ Mary Ann 472
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Hi Ron, sorry for writing so late, but lately I've been a bit lazy with translating posts, and the more time passes, the more messages pile up within the same topic, so I always put it off.
The topic of the anchor was very interesting to me, and I really appreciated your detailed research and, above all, your research into sources.
I don't think I need to add much because you're making a kit (if I'm not mistaken), so just follow the instructions.
I can tell you that I studied that type of anchor some time ago because it was the best one to put on my model, and at first I had some doubts.
I'll finish completing some translations and tell you mine.
I'll tell you in advance that, in my case, for that type of anchor (as you surely know, it's called an admiralty anchor), I had to study the correct way to keep it on board, the correct systems for lowering it, raising it, and securing it. They weren't at all obvious.
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๐ Dutch sailing barge
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Hi Andy, I wasn't sure I remembered correctly, so I decided to reread the previous messages.
I remembered you tried to stabilize the boat without using the protruding fin.
Is this an alternative (a plan B) or have you already noticed that it doesn't have enough capacity to right itself? Is that why you have to use the ballast under the fin?
In any case, you did a great job, but I'm very interested and fascinated by the aspects related to stability and the general physics of ships.
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๐ฌ Re: Construction report "Pilot Cutter Britannia" 1 : 24
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Good resumption of work Wolle.
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๐ Question of the Day?
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Luckily for us, this time the three wrong options chosen by the AI โโwere truly inconsistent.
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๐ Question of the Day?
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A tip: If you're unfamiliar with these regulations, just use your father's common sense to get the answer right.
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๐ฌ Re: Finally, back to work...
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Hi Jumpugly, good luck with your new work.
With the weight so much higher than expected, I'm curious to see how you'll resolve it, but I'm sure you'll find the right solution.
You've reminded me that I need to get back to work, too.
A bit of indolence and laziness have crept in; I need to overcome this post-holiday inertia.
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๐ Question of the Day?
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Yes Nick, you said it right, hahahaha.
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๐ Question of the Day?
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EdW you took the words right out of my mouth (I don't know if that's the right expression), you read my mind and it's the same reasoning I did.
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๐ Dragonflite Sails
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Ross gave excellent advice, a truly practical guide. It's clear he's faced these problems firsthand.
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๐ Question of the Day?
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Phil, I've come to realize that these sorts of lapses in the counting system happen from time to time.
I've also had this happen in the past, where I've responded, but the box would be marked as "no reply."
Today you answered correctly (judging by the colored lines), but yesterday you didn't respond.
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๐ Question of the Day?
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Thanks so much for the explanations (I also received them via PM), much appreciated.
I never would have figured it out on my own.
Scooby-Doo reminds me of a cartoon I watched as a kid.
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๐ Question of the Day?
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Hi Doogle, sorry, but what do you mean by Scooby Doo?
I don't understand what you mean.
Have a good day too.
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๐ Question of the Day?
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Excellent, Ross, this makes today's question more useful and informative for everyone. Thanks.
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๐ HAPPY NEW YEAR
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The hand pump is awesome, Mike!
Is it cold in Rothenburg?
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๐ฌ Re: New Moth MKII semi scale yacht
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Great! The next project will be 1:1 scale, awesome Jbkiwi!
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๐ Question of the Day?
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Great idea, Ross, well done.
If you overlay it with an arrow (you can use any free photo editor like Paint), it's even better.
Someone might say you clearly suggested the answer, and perhaps it would have been better to do it tomorrow, but now a lot of time has passed and almost everyone has responded, so it doesn't matter.
From now on, please don't make mistakes!
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Great tools Dave.
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๐ Question of the Day?
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Today's question, after finding the correct terms in Italian, seemed simple enough.
Yet, there was one term among the four I couldn't find, or rather, I couldn't find any relevance to the naval field.
Eventually, I found it and understood what it was.
Of course, it wasn't the right answer because I had already identified the correct one, but I wanted to be sure.
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