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BRIGANTINO GOLETTA (SCHOONER BRIG) "FRANCESCA".
Greetings to all naval modelers.
In this section of the site (I hope I got it right this time) I want to include a 1:50 scale model that I invented many years ago.
It is not taken from kits or existing projects.
It was born as a toy to entertain my son but little by little I added slightly more accurate modeling elements.
I designed the hull but without using software, I drew it with pencil and paper. However, if you are not capable of designing a hull, the software is of little use.
It's not beautiful (let's even say a little ugly), I know this, because it wasn't born with a homogeneous project but is the result of ideas that came along little by little.
I'm fond of it and "every cockroach is beautiful for its mother" ahahahahahah.
However, it was very useful for me to do nautical tests and learn the rudiments of electronics on board RC models.
The motor is a 24 volt brushed motor but is normally powered by 6 volts. However, there is the possibility of bringing it up to 12, 18 and 24 volts. Up to 12 volts has been tested, above no.
It has no protruding fins or keels and can navigate in about 10cm of water.
Her name is FRANCESCA but I gave her to my son.
I will not include all the assembly phases but only some summary photos, so as not to bore you with an already finished model.
Of course, if anyone asks I will be available for any details.
I will only post four or five more messages related to the most interesting sailings, with very short descriptions of the places.
Length on deck: 80 cm
length on the waterline when empty: 78 cm
length on the waterline at full load: 80 cm
overall length: 112 cm
maximum width: 21.2 cm
full load draft
with three steel bars
on the eyelashes: 12.5 cm
empty draft
with three steel bars on the eyelashes: 8.5 cm
tree height: 41.5 cm
height from keel to deck: 17.5 cm
total height: 59 cm
weight without batteries: 5.42 kg
weight with three batteries
lead acid VRLA AGM, 6V 4Ah: 6.27 kg
motto: LEPANTO 1571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP_JzRoamPk
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๐ฌ Re: Made some progress!
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Great, Roy has cleared your doubts.
I have to admit that I am a bit over the top with security and testing.
Based on Roy's experience you can skip testing.
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๐ฌ Re: Made some progress!
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Hi Duncan, let me explain.
Putting electronic components in a closed box is a great idea to preserve them in case water gets into the hold.
However, electronic components need air exchange to dissipate heat.
For this reason, I recommend you do a test in the bathtub.
Leave the motor running continuously (from half an hour to an hour) until the battery is almost flat.
Every now and then, test the temperature (with a thermometer it is better but with your hand it is also fine).
If the temperature is not excessive then the insulation system you made with the plastic boxes is also fine from that point of view.
It's simply a precaution.
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๐ New restoration project, 48" raf crash tender mk2.
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Great job Doug.
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๐ For THose Interested In Unusual Ships
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Thanks Pat for your kindness, but you don't have to apologize at all.
I had thought about unusual ships and initially I wanted to show you the ones I had found (link at the end), maybe you'll find it funny, even if off topic.
I have to tell you that I have always liked warships (from the aesthetic point of view of lines and shapes).
Compared to today's ones that have shapes and geometries conditioned by the low radar signature, I prefer those from the 70s and 80s.
For me a familiar term of comparison are the current FREMM frigates and the destroyer ORIZZONTE designed with France. Yet I liked those from the eighties better.
Today they would not be effective with those imposing and jagged superstructures but, perhaps, that was precisely their charm.
My favorite was the cruiser VITTORIO VENETO launched in 1969; I always thought it was beautiful.
I wish I had time to make the naval model.
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Thank you Pat for your kindness, but you don't have to apologize.
I had thought about unusual ships and initially I wanted to show you the ones I had found (link at the end), maybe you will find it funny, even if off topic.
I must tell you that I have always liked warships (from the aesthetic point of view of lines and shapes).
Compared to today's ones, which have shapes and geometries conditioned by the low radar signature, I prefer those of the 70s and 80s.
For me, a familiar comparison is the current FREMM frigates and the destroyer ORIZZONTE designed with France. Yet I liked those of the eighties better.
Today they would not be effective with those imposing and jagged superstructures but, perhaps, that was precisely their charm.
My favorite was the cruiser VITTORIO VENETO launched in 1969; I have always considered it beautiful.
I wish I had time to be a naval model.
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Which text is better?
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vittorio_Veneto_(C_550) |
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๐ For THose Interested In Unusual Ships
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Thanks veruy much Doug.
Tried it now (you will see the message below)
They look the same to me though.
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๐ New restoration project, 48" raf crash tender mk2.
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Thanks for the reply ColinH.
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๐ Weight calculation
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Good evening naval modelers.
An interesting discussion was born that I enjoyed.
If I'm not mistaken, Toradog and ChrisF's positions are contrasting, although each has contributed valid arguments and this has made the exchange of ideas very pleasant.
In naval modeling, calculation errors or lack of calculation do not lead to tragedies and disasters, therefore calculations are not essential.
In naval modeling you can successfully build your own model even with limited or zero knowledge, doing tests and experiments.
However, there are those who also enjoy doing calculations, trying to see if their predictions were correct, if their project was valid and functional even before the test in the water.
I am one of these.
Those who have read some topics on the subject will already know it, they already know what my opinion is on the matter.
This does not mean that I blame those who rely only on tests and do not try to do any calculations.
I repeat: for me (very personal taste) even doing the calculations is part of the game and I enjoy it.
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๐ For THose Interested In Unusual Ships
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Hi pat, when I translated the title of your topic Google wrote "inusuale" "insolito" which is synonymous with "uncommon", "strange", "unfamiliar".
But then reading the contents of your messages and the replies to your messages I thought it was the term "dismesso" decommisioned, deregistered, to be scrapped.
What did you mean?
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๐ New restoration project, 48" raf crash tender mk2.
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Hi Colin, good evening to you.
A curiosity: did you choose brushless to have a new experience to try them or because you prefer them to brushed?
In that case why do you think they are better for a naval model?
I'm curious to know your opinion.
I can't help you in the choice because I have very little experience (only theory) of brushless I could lead you into error.
I'm sorry but I'm sure you will receive a lot of useful information in this forum, as is already happening.
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๐ New restoration project, 48" raf crash tender mk2.
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Do you already have in mind which electrical setup to put on board (motor, esc, batteries) and which propeller or are you still thinking about it?
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๐ New restoration project, 48" raf crash tender mk2.
20 hours ago by
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Hi Colin, I can't wait to see the master at work.
As I said, I admire and envy those who restore and revive models.
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๐ฌ Re: Made some progress!
2 days ago by
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Very important progress Duncan.
Great work, take into account the proper heat dissipation of the electrical components.
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๐ I'm still here, I think?
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Great return, we welcome this return with great pleasure.
It is truly fortunate that your nephew has given you new stimuli.
We look forward to seeing your work and reading your messages.
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๐ Has anyone built the HA-Kits Flying Christine II Ambulance? boat
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Hello ColinH.
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๐ Helping A Fellow Shipmate
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Awesome!
You should put more pictures though.
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๐ฌ Re: Current State of Projects
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Thanks for the help Doug, but I'm having problems with the Word license on my cell phone, I'll have to try this tonight on my PC.
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๐ฌ Re: Current State of Projects
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Hi Pat I can't open the document.
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๐ฌ Re: Some additional details; a few more to go
4 days ago by
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Great additions. Very realistic.
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๐ Has anyone built the HA-Kits Flying Christine II Ambulance? boat
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Thank you very much for the clarification Duncan and especially for the photo. I just couldn't understand. Now it's clear to me.
I prefer to put the engine as far aft as possible because in this way the propeller shaft is shorter (and this has many advantages). However, I realize that, if it is not possible to position the engine low, then it is better to lengthen the propeller shaft in order to reduce the inclination. Very good.
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๐ Has anyone built the HA-Kits Flying Christine II Ambulance? boat
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Why put the engine in the bow though? Who knows?
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๐ Animal and nature photos to enjoy.
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What a natural wonder! Absolutely amazing!
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๐ Has anyone built the HA-Kits Flying Christine II Ambulance? boat
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Thanks for the reply Roy.
Yes I can imagine that, indeed, 122 grams placed in the bow can affect more than in the stern or amidships and prevent planing. Right.
I lack experience in this field.
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๐ฌ Re: Construction report "Pilot Cutter Britannia" 1 : 24
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Get well soon Wolle.
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๐ Has anyone built the HA-Kits Flying Christine II Ambulance? boat
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Hi Roy, I'll start by saying that I'm not an expert in speedboats or even planing.
I love displacement boats.
So I'm asking you this question just out of curiosity, to learn from you.
I looked at the Graupner brand (to have an example reference) and I found that the difference between a Speed โโ600 [195 grams] and a Speed โโ400 [73 grams] is 122 grams.
Do you think that 122 grams on a weight of 1.63 kg can negatively affect planing?
This is very interesting to me
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๐ Question of the Day?
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Good morning ship modelers. I think Nick and Doug are right, this time we got there by logic. I don't want to speak before time, I'd wait until the end of the day to comment.
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๐ Brushed or Brushless Motors
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Hi Pat, about permanent magnet brushed motors I suggest you read the link at the end of the text.
In the meantime I'll write you some differences, if I'm wrong the other users of the site will correct me.
Brushed motors. Advantages:
They are on average cheaper than brushless ones.
They have two power cables and not three like brushless ones.
By varying the voltage (between a minimum limit and a maximum limit) the power and the number of revolutions vary. To activate them, just power them (you can make a direct connection to batteries or bench power supplies, useful for tests).
This is not possible for brushless.
In fact, the ESC of a brushed is simply a radio-controlled voltage variator while the ESC of the brushless is more complex (it supplies voltages in sequence to the phases), it is a real electronic controller without which the motor could not work.
For reverse (for permanent magnet ones) just invert the power cables. In relation to costs, the brushed esc is on average cheaper than the brushless.
Advantages of brushless.
Usually the brushless is quieter because it does not have brushes.
Sooner or later the brushes will have to be replaced in brushed motors because they wear out. Remember that the brushes scrape on the rotor creating sparks and therefore disturbances in the circuit. This inconvenience can be eliminated (or at least greatly reduced) with three capacitors.
The capacitors are used to eliminate the disturbances that the motor creates in the circuit and not vice versa.
Generally I find brushed motors more advantageous for ships (I think it's the opposite for airplanes) and less affected by noise. I'm sure I've forgotten something, but as it comes to mind I'll tell you.
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๐ Has anyone built the HA-Kits Flying Christine II Ambulance? boat
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Hi Duncan, I refrain from recommending engines because I always prefer to take oversized ones (in terms of power).
I would opt for an equivalent of the Speed โโ600 but I know I will attract a lot of criticism (moreover justified).
However, this could be useful for your choice:
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๐ Modello RC scala 1/60, di piroscafo armato a goletta, liberamente ispirato alle cannoniere classe US
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Thank you very much Duncan!
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๐ Modello RC scala 1/60, di piroscafo armato a goletta, liberamente ispirato alle cannoniere classe US
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Thank you so much, Stevedownunder.
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๐ฌ Re: some progress with the taxiboat
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Beautiful motorboat.
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