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📝 Dutch sailing barge
6 days ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB2 (
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Decided to add a motor, as auxiliary power, have no experience of such things but have bought a speed controller as well. Its only for when the wind totally disappears and there's also one on the "real boat".
The plan is to have an additional/detachable keel, which will be bolted through the brass tube. Still thinking about the linkage for the rudder but will get it fitted before any planking is added. However, there is a slot in the underside of the rudder, so this can be extended while sailing, which should increase its control.
The plan is to have an additional/detachable keel, which will be bolted through the brass tube. Still thinking about the linkage for the rudder but will get it fitted before any planking is added. However, there is a slot in the underside of the rudder, so this can be extended while sailing, which should increase its control.
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📝 Dutch sailing barge
9 days ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB2 ( Master Seaman)
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After some distractions - have now made a start actually making the barge. The next stage is some "fine tweaking" of the frames, so there is a nice smooth line along the chine and gunwale. Its not until you get the basic frames in place, do actually realise how tight the bow is curved. Have tried some "thin" wood/planks as a test and things to seem achievable.
However, some decisions are needed about the rudder, this will need a removable piece to be used while sailing, which is quite easy to achieve but its the lower rudder bearing (pintle) that needs some thinking about. There is length of brass, 1/2 inch wide, that will form the bottom of the keel. This will add some weight low down and keep the wooden keel straight, as well as protected. It will form part of the lower rudder bearing.
However, some decisions are needed about the rudder, this will need a removable piece to be used while sailing, which is quite easy to achieve but its the lower rudder bearing (pintle) that needs some thinking about. There is length of brass, 1/2 inch wide, that will form the bottom of the keel. This will add some weight low down and keep the wooden keel straight, as well as protected. It will form part of the lower rudder bearing.
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💬 Re: Hansjolle
1 month ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB2 ( Master Seaman)
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This photo shows how the servos are fitted. The long armed servo controls the jib and with 2:1 ratio, there is just enough movement, so the jib can move from one side to another.
The servo controlling the mainsail is top left and uses a 3:1 ratio on the sheet and this creates enough travel to allow the mainsail to move out while sailing downwind.
The third servo controls the rudder. I use a FlySky FS-i6 transmitter.
The servo controlling the mainsail is top left and uses a 3:1 ratio on the sheet and this creates enough travel to allow the mainsail to move out while sailing downwind.
The third servo controls the rudder. I use a FlySky FS-i6 transmitter.
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💬 Re: Hansjolle
1 month ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB2 ( Master Seaman)
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Hi Alessandro - I tried the paste/return, but no change. There must be away of making the text/web address into a direct link. It does seem to work if you cut and paste, not ideal I appreciate.
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💬 Re: Hansjolle
1 month ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB2 ( Master Seaman)
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Hi Alessandro
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Sorry the link doesn’t work, could someone please explain how to create a direct link from a post as I couldn’t work this out? I notice some contributors manage to embed a video into their post.
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Sorry the link doesn’t work, could someone please explain how to create a direct link from a post as I couldn’t work this out? I notice some contributors manage to embed a video into their post.
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📝 Hansjolle
1 month ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB2 ( Master Seaman)
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The Hansa dinghy was introduced in 1947 by Henry Rasmussen, founder of the renowned boatyard Abeking & Rasmussen (A&R). During the post war years there there was an Allied ban on larger new boats. The Hansa is really a keel boat with a fixed keel and has a draught of 50 cm. The ballast keel is 150 kg and the beam is 1.65 meters, which gives good stability, but still has the character of a dinghy. The boat is 5.85 m long, and was designed to be a small, safe cruising boat for inland and coastal waters.
This model is made from an Aeronaut kit. It has three servos, rudder, mainsail and jib. This means the model needs to be sailed "properly", changing the jib as you tack and trimming each sail to ensure the boat sails well. Its quite enjoyable to sail.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AENF9UBeGWY
This model is made from an Aeronaut kit. It has three servos, rudder, mainsail and jib. This means the model needs to be sailed "properly", changing the jib as you tack and trimming each sail to ensure the boat sails well. Its quite enjoyable to sail.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AENF9UBeGWY
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📝 Hansjolle
2 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB2 ( Master Seaman)
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The Hansa dinghy was introduced in 1947 by Henry Rasmussen and a kit is available from German manufacturers Aeronaut, the hull is 940mm long.
Have made some reasonable progress so far and would be interested in hearing from anyone else who has built one of these kits, especially concerning the ballast.
The kit contains a plastic keel, which I have replaced with one made from 3mm stainless steel, to add some weight low down. The hull shape allows for lead shot and resin to be added, as on the real boat. The kit also does suggest an added "clamp on" weight to the end of the keel, which I'm planning to do. I'll drill a small hole in the lower area of the keel and use a two piece weight that can be clamped around the keel, with a pin going through the hole, to ensure the weight can not drop off. This is most likely to be made from brass.
Its the relative weight of the keel and lead shot that needs to be considered. Current thinking, is to add the weight to the keel, do a float test, with batteries and RC equipment etc on board, and then add lead shot to bring the boat down to its water line and correct trim.
I have found a couple of "build blogs" on German sites, but they seem to follow the instructions and just add lead shot in the bottom of the hull.
Any other suggestions or experiences? - thanks
Have made some reasonable progress so far and would be interested in hearing from anyone else who has built one of these kits, especially concerning the ballast.
The kit contains a plastic keel, which I have replaced with one made from 3mm stainless steel, to add some weight low down. The hull shape allows for lead shot and resin to be added, as on the real boat. The kit also does suggest an added "clamp on" weight to the end of the keel, which I'm planning to do. I'll drill a small hole in the lower area of the keel and use a two piece weight that can be clamped around the keel, with a pin going through the hole, to ensure the weight can not drop off. This is most likely to be made from brass.
Its the relative weight of the keel and lead shot that needs to be considered. Current thinking, is to add the weight to the keel, do a float test, with batteries and RC equipment etc on board, and then add lead shot to bring the boat down to its water line and correct trim.
I have found a couple of "build blogs" on German sites, but they seem to follow the instructions and just add lead shot in the bottom of the hull.
Any other suggestions or experiences? - thanks
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📝 Dutch sailing barge
2 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB2 ( Master Seaman)
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Some progress :
Obtained a copy of the "Dutch Yacht" plans, having scanned these, it was possible to "double" the size, so the planned model should be 37 inches long and 12 inches beam. The article in the 1975 issue of model boat is quite short but interesting, as is a book "The Dutch Barge" - more historical but does provide some information.
Just need to start - what could go wrong ?
Obtained a copy of the "Dutch Yacht" plans, having scanned these, it was possible to "double" the size, so the planned model should be 37 inches long and 12 inches beam. The article in the 1975 issue of model boat is quite short but interesting, as is a book "The Dutch Barge" - more historical but does provide some information.
Just need to start - what could go wrong ?
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3 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB2 ( Master Seaman)
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Looks great and seems to sail without the need of an additional false keel.
I’d be interested in what ballast you added.
I’d be interested in what ballast you added.
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📝 Dutch sailing barge
3 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB2 ( Master Seaman)
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I’d had a look at the Thames barge kit, Veronica, by Sarik.
Have ordered the drawings MM1203, £15 with postage, so worth a look. A model of twice the suggested size, should be ok. I’ll have to learn how to scale up!
There’s even some copies of the June75 magazine on eBay !
I’d had a look at the Thames barge kit, Veronica, by Sarik.
Have ordered the drawings MM1203, £15 with postage, so worth a look. A model of twice the suggested size, should be ok. I’ll have to learn how to scale up!
There’s even some copies of the June75 magazine on eBay !
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📝 Dutch sailing barge
3 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB2 ( Master Seaman)
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Thanks Hermank - that's very helpful
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📝 Dutch sailing barge
3 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB2 ( Master Seaman)
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The plans do look interesting, they are the first I’ve come across. The other conversation we had at the club was … how to steam the planks for the bow. The curve is quite extreme.
I’d not thought of Facebook but unfortunately I’m not a user. However, my better half is, so that might be worth a look as well.
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I’d not thought of Facebook but unfortunately I’m not a user. However, my better half is, so that might be worth a look as well.
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📝 Dutch sailing barge
3 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB2 ( Master Seaman)
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I’d not seen that, interesting to look at instructions. Might be a touch small etc to make it into sailing model.
I’m sure any sailing model will need a false detachable keel, to get it to perform on the water.
We did have a discussion today at the club about how the Lee boards could be made to move up and down.
I’d not seen that, interesting to look at instructions. Might be a touch small etc to make it into sailing model.
I’m sure any sailing model will need a false detachable keel, to get it to perform on the water.
We did have a discussion today at the club about how the Lee boards could be made to move up and down.
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📝 Dutch sailing barge
3 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB2 ( Master Seaman)
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Anyone know of or had any experience of making a sailing model of a Dutch barge? Spent three weeks cycling in the Netherlands last year but have failed to find suitable drawings or kits.
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3 months ago by 🇬🇧 AndyB2 ( Master Seaman)
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Sorry but I’ve not been on the forum for a while. But this a very impressive model, really quite exceptional and it sails ! Fantastic
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