Brushless that should be wicked. I would love to see some pictures as you build this, and some video when you run it. It should be so awesome.

My Sea Queen is still sitting on the shelf under the workbench in the Boat Shed. She's been there for about 6 year's. The Sea Commander is on another shelf at the end of the shed. They cannot see each other' if they could I think they might have some harsh word sto asy about me. A bit like my wife, "There are so many boat's in here and none of them seem to be getting anything done on them. Oh No he's only gone and bought another one". Just as well the one's in the shed can't see the other four in the house. And the Lady wife is not too happy about that either. 🚤😁😁 I think she thinks that I call boot fair's Boat Fair's because I have bought five from them. and I even got HER to pay £20 for one for me. 😇

Have you got any pictures of inside her now and maybe any of before you changed her. Can you show a couple of pictures of the bottom oh the hull please? I would like some idea's and insipration on another build that I might try. I have started to convert one of those cheap R/C twin motor boats I'm not sure if it's an NQD one. I am leaving in the 380 motor's for now but putting in better R/C instead of the wierd stuff the Chinese have put in. I have repainted it and the motor's will be worked from one speed controller and a seperate rudder fitted to the stern so the motors aren't used for turning the boat. It is still in the part way of the build. I haven't chnged the small prop shaft's. I'm just doing it for a bit of fun. I do have another one I might do a better job on and put in a brushless motor.

How do you open these Media Files, I have been trying to open them.

Hi DWBrinkman,
Yes that was what I meant, it's just over here in the UK all my friend's call them whether Petrol (gas as your side of the pond refer to it) or Nitro then they are quickly banning it in most area's. We do still had a few that I know of, but there are probably more, that still allow them. But the ones I do know of are a minimum of 50 miles from where I live.
So I have sold off virtually all of my I/C engines and I'm slowly changing to Brushless Motors.

Are you allowed to use I/C powered model boats on your lakes? Over here in the UK many area's are slowly getting to ban them on their ponds.

Hi madwelshman,
I have just seen you post. That is something I remember from school back in 1964. We used to do drawings like that in Technical Drawing Classes. Not that I can remember how to do it these days. I was 14 back then, 71 now. My problem was I couldn't be bothered to learn too much I just wanted to leave school. I was ok at there subjects, or maybe just liked doing them, they were metalwork, woodwork and the above class T.D. Not that great with maths, well just enough to get by with and those three classes were no good for a job without maths. So I left school at 14ys 11months to go to work in a butchers shop. Stayed there for 7 years then went into dry cleaning and the last 17 years of my working life was driving London Transport red busses I retired back in 2015. Oh boy does that picture bring back a memory or two.

I look forward to seeing how both of them progress. Also a bit of video on the water. But maybe not a camera on the boats as you cannot actually see how they are performing and how they plane. Both of those hulls lift of the water so well. The Vosper style hull seems to look like they are stuck to the water even though they have lifted off of the water. I just love them. My PT 109 Elco copy, that is also the same style as the Vosper and that rides the water so well and I love the way that turns on the water. They are such good fun.

I have three at the moment that I could choose from, there is a 31" Huntsman hull but has no superstructure, thisis how I bought it from Anglia Model Shop, sadly now shut down. Then I have a Stratos Interceptor that I got back in the 1919's. Also a 31" MFA Spearfish. All three have not been started. Then I also have a Aerokit's Sea Commander and an Aerokit's Sea Queen, this one I'm tempted to put my old Taycol Supermarine Double Special. So I have quite a choice. I am sure it would be far too big for my Aerokit's Sea Hornet. Such a brain teaser. I even have a Norstar Sea Rider. Decisions, Decisions.

Hi Wooders, It seems a long time since I sent you the Huntsman instructions. I am surprised that you are building is it an RTTL . It's looking good. How long is she?

She's looking good, I finally bit the bullit and ordered the Z Drive and a second prop, the 33m one slightly larger than the one it says is on it in the spec list and also a syringe of thier gear grease. I paid him with a bank balance and it was posted the next day (yesterday). I am now eagerly awaiting its arival. I cannot wait to see yours perform on the water. I still have to decide which boat to put it onto.

I'm not sure about those clip's they don't go all the way around the bellows. Will they be secure enough to stop any water getting in? Small cable ties would secure the full diameter of th bellows.

Just tell her for evry item she buys for herself you want the same amount in Model Boat things.

That's a great site, the stock on that shop is far better then here in the UK. Our only problem buying from the USA is the cost of the shipping. SADLY.☹️ I forgot to say, the word frocks, I just hate, it is alomost as hard to type it as to say or hear it. I spent 25 years working in Dry Cleaning as a Shop manager and a Hoffman Presser and just banned that word as I hated it. Dress I feel is a nicer word. Even most of the female's I worked with didnt like it.

I would put some silicone grease in the bellows and then put small cable ties ower the bellows when fitted onto the brass tubes in the transom. I love the look of this. I am realy waiting to see her perform on the water. I am seriously tempted to get one of those outdrives.

This is my other Z drive project, on a Stratos Hydrofibre Pipedream.

I am a bit confused here ChrisF ? are you also building a boat with the Z drive as I assumed this was Newby7's build blog??
Anyway.
The bellows should be ok even though as you say the rods move lateraly, but you could spin the servo 180 degrees and reduce the lateral movement there would be enough room in the bellows for that.
I saw the B-M site and the z drive looks like the anti cavitation plate is a bit short to fix a pickup tube, but I myself would fit a piece of carbon fibre plate on to hold that and fit to the top ofit and shape it sa as not to look just like a bad add on.
I have a couple of hulls, one Fibreglass Huntsman hull with just the deck already fitted. That came from Anglia Model Centre a few years back but with no superstructure. I will design my own when I make it up. Also an MFA Spearfish still in the box, I think it would look quite neat on that or even the old Areokits Sea Commander that I have got for a refurb.
I even have an unbuilt Stratos Hydrofibre Interceptor that I bought back in the 80's which all I done to that was to start to fit some holes on the decking for some stantions and then put it back in the box. so I do have a few options.
I am going to thin out ny boats, I'm selling off 2 RAF Crash Tenders a 46" Vintage model boat company remake and a Genuine Aerokits 34" that I bought back in 1994 when they advertised in the Model Boats mag. It was advertised as 50 kits for the 50th anniversary of the boat.
Still unmade.
I sold the Graupner Z drive as it was so heavy and decided that I didn't like the look of it☹️.

Hi Scratchbuilder,
I hope that I havn't said anything wrong to offend or spoil the way this site works.
I just thought my comments were in somewhat of a constructive nature. I have been a modeler for 63 years now and I don't think I will ever give it up. I still feel that even now I have a lot to learn.
My modeling skills are just basic realy, as everyhting I do has to be by hand as I have no heavy work machines, just 1 basic pilar drill and a couple of bench grinders with grind wheels and wire brush and a polishing wheel. That's my full power side of my modeling machines.
My wife is not amused when I bring another boat or car home, lost count up to now 17 or 18ish. Only about 4 runners now as I have pulled all IC motors out now and about to sell the last 3 IC's hopefully on Ebay.
Also just put two RAF Crash Tenders on Ebay, and one of them is an original Aerokits model I bought in 1994 still in unmade kit form.
Going brushless and still going to fit one or two with brushed one will be a Taycol Double Supermarine .
Sorry to go on.
Once again I hope I have not have been in anyway a problem on here.
TOM aka BOATSHED.

Hi Newby7,
I see you have a different motor on the Z drive. It looks like a 500 series motor. I thought you was going brushless on it as that was what was on the original picture?
Are you using the rubber bellows on the transom to prevernt water entering the boat?
I have been looking at thet z drive and I am realy tempted. I am eager to see how your boat performs with it.

When will you be loading your video to scare us. I am eager to see it.

Happy Birthday Nerys.
Hope you have had a great day. Best Wishes.

I find this now most upsetting. I have been on this site now for 13 years or there abouts. We are all on here to seek out help and information to aid us all in our model boating. When we register we don't put on here that we have any dissabilities in anyway.
Whether it be Learning, Phisical or Mental. 🙉🙈🙊
I am no moderator but shouldn't all the sniping just cease and all of us be the adults that we are. It would be a shame to loose both Maverick and cormorant for pointless remarks. None of us are too old to learn, I myself have learn't a lot from being on here.
I hope I haven't offended anyone with my remarks, we all do this type of hobbyis such a way that we feel we like the most. I am a self confessed speed freak and find I like this the most. I started off with an RAF Crash Tender in 1959 and joined this site when it was the Fireboat Site for this reason but has evolved to accomodate all types of boating. But I had been enjoying all types of speedboat models as I grew older. I have never been in to Battleships, Submarines, Tug boats or Sailing Boats, but I wouldn't tell anyone to change from there perticular style of boating.
Sorry once again if I have offended anybody.
But lets all just be friendly and stay on here and enjoy our Hobby.

Hi Maverick,
Please don't get disheartend with your replies. I have been model boating since I was 9 years old. I am now 71 and find it all too confusing with brushless motors.
With standard electric motors, ie, 380 and all the 500/540 series motors I have found just using a 7.5v Tamiya style pack worked fine or even adding in a 12v sealed lead acid battery but these were also good but heavy. The standard size motors have been used in many battery operated screwdrivers and drills. But for many years now they are using brushless motors.
I get totally lost with the eletric sides of modeling. No matter how much I read and listen to people I still don't under stand it all. The only thing I can understand is if I put one in and find it is running the wrong was round, is to just swap an two of the wires around and it will run the way you want it too. Even that I cannot see how that works. To me these brushless motors are just a miniture size 3 Phase motor. That side of the wiring I found this out back in the 1980's when I worked in a dry cleaners and we had to replace a motor in a machine and was told this by the motor supplier.
We are all here to help each other and not all of your replies will make sense, I still find this and I am not a newbie to Boat Modeling. It is only over the last couple of years that I have turned to Brushless and this is because so many area's are now banning IC engines.
For 55 years I used both Diesel and Glow IC engines, electrics I just do not understand. I read what others have suggested to people asking questions like you have and I still get baffled. You just need to make notes and try to filter them out and get somewhere from your notes.
You have only been on here a few months and I have been on here several years and I am still not understanding everyones answers. PLEASE stay on here and give it a CHANCE you will get there.

Where did you get the seats from, or have you 3D printed them. they are great. Keep the pictures coming. I am now getting a bit broody? I think I am now going to soon have to start doing a bit of boat modeling again. Just so many other things having to be done both indoors and sorting the advisories ot on the motorhome to get ready for a bit of a trip out in her. But will still need to be a lot carefull with this COVID crap.

I have always had my cooling pickup just behind the propellor, just just far enough as to be able to comfortably remove the propellor. Also as testing different props for better performance some props are longer in lenght on the shaft fitting, I have always given just that extra bit of room for that. I have never had the water cooling block up with any weed. But as it was first discussed regarding putting a net to stop contamination in the cooling system, one way to overcome the problem would be to add an in line filter. If it was of a visible plastic one he could see if he was getting any weed or the likes. But I have never thought about that side of the cooling as never overheated so no worries.

That is a realy lovely looking Huntsman. I have one in my shed waiting to be refurbed. It did run but had a small leak on the bottom of the transom on one corner. I think it was from a small knock on the side of the pond, bad manouvering on my part. I am going to run some epoxy down to the rear corner to seal it then she is going 2.4gh and brushless. More speed.😁 I am a spead freak, that's how I end up damaging prop shafts and the rear of the Huntsman.🙈 I have been to specsavers but that still doesn't stop me doing damage.

These are inline filters you could use, the first picture all plastic on Ebay 7 of these for £7.50 ish. The aluminium one is a fuel filter for an IC model engine, this one you can undo it and wash it out and reuse. Much neater than fitting a piece of net under the boat plus that would interfier with the speed.

You could always add a inline filter inside the boat. You can but a small inline filetr for a car to fit.

It souldn't be that hard to set up a brushless motor to the ESC. Also if it runs the wrong way for your propellor all you need to do is just swap two wires over from the ESC to the motor and it will then run the correct way for you. It is just like a three phase motor in miniture. And I am not any good with electrics. My problem is getting advice on the KV on the motor worked out and which batteries to use. Mostly though it comes with the instructions, but I ask my local model shop if in doubt.

The varnish I use is the same as I have used in the past on a boat I own up on the Norfolk Broads. I have used this and lightly sand between coats then a good polish up at the end you can get a great glass type finish. Used it on model boats in the past. I cannot wait to get back up there and get her sorted out. Due to Covid I have not been near her for 2 years.