Hi Heners2332,

With some careful cutting snd grinding with a dremmel tool you should be able to cut the shaft out of the boat.
Even some gentle taping with a small hammer on the prop tube will loosen it without much damage to the hull.

There is never a prop tube that's fitted that cannot be removed and that will NOT kill the hull.
I have bought 3 or 4 second hand boats and alway been able to get the shaffts out.

With the amount of glassing in I have done on a wooden hull I have always been able to remove a shaft tube. Acetone will loosen the fibreglass resin and not damage the wooden hull.

It would only damage a fibreglass hull and that's a wooden hull, so you should be able to remove it.
Even slowly chipping away at the glue on the shaft with a sharp chisel ??

Somebody at the boat club should be able to come up with a way of removing the shaft and it should be easy enough to remount the motor by the way it looks in the pictures. simple packing and adjustments should suffice.

Sadly I live too far away to be able to help you, I'm in Dartford area a long was from Matlock Derbyshire.

This is a reduced model down to 28" from the 34" Crash Tender.
I then built it out of balsa wood and covere the bottom balsa skin with 1/16th ply.
I will get around to finishing it one day. Only part painted up to now.
The propellor on it in the picture is not the one that it will be run on it will have
a 25mm 3 bladed brass one on it. But I do also have a 20mm as a back up incase thats too big.

If they are advertized as waterproof then thay should be.
They must have been tested when they were desgined and made.

I'm not that clever, as I keep getting the daily questions wrong.
And dropping down the % list.
I can't remember the last time I hit 100%.
I'm a brit.
And I do live in Britain.
To be honest I have never had a passport and never been out of Britain.
I have been to the Isle of Ely.
And the Isle of Sheppy but never the Isle of Wight.
PS,🤣🤣
You will get me wrong with a question very soon I know it.
Probably before the weekend if your lucky, I won't get to the 100%.
It would be a miricle if I did.

What size prop are you using on her? and is that water coming up the prop tube inside the boat ? is that whatnthe sponge is for?
Have you got a picture of her underside?

That's quite good, Where do you have the battery at the present in her though?

The reason I asked was she just didn't seem to get up on plane very well??
Have you tried her with a lighter weight battery, maybe a LiPo batery??
I and a biggest fan of the Crash Tender and have been since a boy, it was my first boat, the Aerokits 34" kit when I was 9yrs old.
I think they look great when they are running around up on the plane.
YES I am a speed freak I also love the MTB's running like it.
Have you any other video of her running please.
Happy boating Regards Tom, (BOATSHED).

I am curious was she at full throttle on that bit of video? and what size battery are you running her on?

Hi Nickthestream,
I sat and watched that film, I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was great.
The funny thing about it is I have bought the television paper for the two weeks for
over Christmas and it is being shown I think it is some time next week.
Well it's at least over the two weeks in the paper.
There's another one I want to see on channel 34, Great! TV, 5:30 pm Pearl Harbour. three and a half hours long.
Not sure if the wife will put up with that one though.
A couple of cans on Foster's and some snacks and I'll be well away.
I have already told her I want to watch the Ten Commandments on Boxing Day, that ones four and a half hours long.
I'm not realy religious but I just want to see the whole thing all in one go.
Anyway thanks for the film it was great to see.
It's a bummer my DVD recorder died, I had 3 MTB films on there.
PT 109. They Were Expendable and I think the other one was called Dog Boats.
I wish I had put them on DVD's.

I was tossing up between A & D, but went for D. Didin't trust D with whats going on in the world at the moment ( with Russia??), plus I normally plumb for the longest answer.
Which is what I done in the end.Lucky I did and it was the correct answer.

Nickthesteam,
I have never seen that film, I will watch that over the weekend.
I'll use the HDMI lead from the computer to the 50" telly that's if I
cannot find it on film+ to watch.
Cheers.👍👍🌪️

Hi Garth,
That's great, Love the Christmas decorations.
is that the naughty elf in the boat.
Hope he'smnot taking with out consent.
Out of curiosity, what model boat is that??

Wow I am doing well, It wont be long before I drop down again.
No one is at 100%, that is unusual. 🤔
OH!!! didn't take long to drop a place on the listing and yep someone has 100% now.

Hi roycv,
Yes the Crash Tender that I have, I bought it off of the internet and it does have a bit of warping on it and a couple of bits missing.
It doesn't have the drive bands for the motor either.
I am pretty sure deep in my shed, If I'm not mistaken that I also have the Trpple Screw Launch that Victory produced as well, in the added picture.
I also have 3 maybe 4, I 'm not sure Nikko small R/C boats that I started to collect.

I forgot to list the 34" F1 tunnel hull with a K&B converted outboard to Brushless.
I am thinking of putting that on Ebay as I am thinning out a lot of my boats as I have so many.
A couple of those cheapy NQD R/C ready to run boats as well .
I had about 30 model boats in the shed in all not counting the little ones in the boxes and I'm down to about 23 I think now.

I also sold off the one fifth R/C two stroke car, but still have the R/C Traxxas Stampede car.

One day I will get around to putting the electric motors in the boats I hope some soon, but I need to get that Classic 1960 Rover back on the road next year.

That's unless the NHS drag me in and start to carve me up doing what I need to get sorted out first. If they do then It will be maybe putting the motors in the boats before the doing Rover.

Hi Zooma,
The Kit wasn't the Sea Commander it was the RAF Crash Tender.
I bought that back in 1991 I think it was, It was released by Aerokits on the 40th anniversary of the Crash Tender kit they produced.
I saw an advert in the Model Boats Magazine and sent for it straight away.
I never built it and I only sold it back early this year it was the 34.5" kit.
I kept it for 34 years unmade.
I had my first one in 1959 for my 9th birthday.
I also sold on Ebay the other 48" kit that was produced by the VWM boat company.
They both went to different people and then I sold the 48" one that I had that was already made it had previously had a IC glow engine in it.

Here is a list of some of my classic model power boats,

Sea Hornet
Aerokits Sea Quuen
Aerokits Sea Commander
Precedent Huntsman
Prcedent Huntman Fibreglass Hulls x2 No superstructure.
Precedent PT 109 wooden Hull. No superstructure.
Norstar Waverider.
1970's Stratos/Hydrofirbe Pipedream 50" with an outdrive
(was meant to have a Zenoah sold that off) will now have a brushless.
28" R.A.F. CRASH TENDER. Built from Balsa wood from reduced 34" plans.
50" Chineese Fibreglass PT 109. ( removed the 26cc IC engine, going brushless)
Proboat Miss Geico 28". RTG.
Graupner ARTG Rhode Island F1 Tunnel Hull.

I have also recently purchased off of Ebay a 2 channel MacGregor R/C. and when it arrived
I was a bit shocked with it.
It turned out to have been never used.
The box was well tatty but the R/C was in perfect condition.
I plan to use it in my Aerokits Sea Queen when I get her up and running.
I might put in one of the Taycol motors fist to see how it goes before I try a brushless in her.

50" White fibreglass batboat unbilt. (FOR SALE £75) Collection only Dartford area.


Sold off in the last 2 years
R.A.F. CRASH TENDERs.
Aeronaut Classic Speed Boat. half built.
( I feel this kit is poor quility for the money)
2nd Sea Hornet would have been more sense.
Navicraft Outrage 26cc two stroke.
MFA Spearfish fibreglass unbuilt kit.
50" Batboat. Painted black & white.
3ft 1970's unbuilt Stratos/Hydrofibre Intreceptor fibreglass kit.


The photo's are just some of them.


48" Crash Tender, in need of restoration.
1970's unbuilt Aerokits 34" kit.
Vintage Model Boats Kits 48" unbilt kit.

I have removed all of my Glow and Two stroke engines and sold them off on Ebay.
I am now going electric brushesd and brushless in all of my model boats now.

Well I went for answer D as I asumed it would be the most obvious in this day and age in modern submarines also, while maintaining minimal acoustic signature and avoiding the need for frequent snorkelling.
And I got it wrong!!??.

I have since Googled the question, which I wouldn't normally do. and Google says that this is the correct answer. And why. Google A.I. also says answer D is correct. So why did we get it wrong?????????
Our answers should be corrected.

This is Google's Answer,

The correct option is D. Nuclear propulsion using pressurised water reactors.
Explanation
Nuclear propulsion provides virtually unlimited submerged endurance, limited only by crew provisions, because the reactor does not require access to atmospheric oxygen for power generation.
Submarines with nuclear propulsion can operate for months without surfacing or snorkeling, which is a critical aspect of maintaining stealth by avoiding visual or radar detection at the surface.
While air-independent propulsion (AIP) systems (Option C) also enhance submerged endurance for non-nuclear submarines, they typically only extend it to a few weeks, not the practically unlimited duration of nuclear power.

On todays question,
I had gone for answer C, as I would do this even on my wooden model boaats,
As I think this makes sense just to be safe.

That was a good guess, but then reading the answers that made the most sense.

Edw, mine was a lucky guess I think.

Is this a correct translation into English please??
I tried to get a translation off of Google??
Any chance of pictures from different angles please??


The swamp boat had to be done. Drives very stably thanks to a 15mm large rear fin.

Hi Zooma,
I didn't realise that you was running your motor clock wise.
I have always run anti clock wise as be fore I have always run IC engines.
So when I fitted electric as I had the props from previous use I had run my motors the same way, anticlock wise.
So you may have a good reaction with your wedge that you have fitted. 🚤🚤🚤🚤
Good luck, I look forward to your results.
I hope you have got it right and I am wrong with the way I ran my motors.
Regards BOATSHED. >> (Thomas) Happy boating.🚤🚤👍👍

Hi Zoom,
I have not been on your page for a few days.
I have just seen that you have fitted the wedge on the sratboard side of the boat.
Ifnthe post side is diving then surely it would be fitted on that side of the boat. I have coppied and pasted the paragraph from my pevious post for you again that I was tols to fit it. I would be curious first to see how she reacts to how you have fiitted it when you run it if you go out this weekend.
The paragraph is below.
Happy boating this weekend and I look forard to your new video in hope for you🚤🚤🚤.
Good luck.🚤🚤
PS, I am NOT picking fault or judging you, just suggesting.👍


He said to me a good Idea would be when he saw it was to remove all the forward part of the rudder, it was a bit deeper than the prop. and to also add a small wooded wedge glued on the under side of the port side of the hull,
This acted as a type of fitted trim tab so to speak.
It was only about 2.5" long, 3/4" wide and 1/2" deep at the end part of the wedge.
Similar to a door stop? if you get my meaning.

Hi Zomma,

I have been following your Aerokits Sea Commander, Strange Handling?

I must admit I have been a bit wary of making any remarks as to offending anyone.
A couple of years back on here I put what I thought was a remark and would help some one and another person took umbrage and said that I was being offensive.
So for this reason I have been as I say wary of remarking on yours or anyone elses problem.

Due being accused of being offensive I actually came off of this site for just over a year because it upset me.
I never try to offend anyone on here,

I do also have a Sea Commander but have never got to finish to get her on the water.
I bought her off of a boot fair half done.
She is at the painting and the power and fitting the running gear stage, but on the shelf in the shed. (or BOAT SHED) as the lady wife refers to it and still un finnished.

Way back in my fun days with my brother and several mates when we all used to go boating together on a Sunday morning, with our IC powered model boats I also had a similar problem with an Precedent Huntsman and could not work it out.

Another modeler came up to me and asked me if he could have a look at my boat when it came out of the pond as he was curious to see because of the way she turned at speed and dived on a starboard turn.

He said to me a good Idea would be when he saw it was to remove all the forward part of the rudder, it was a bit deeper than the prop. and to also add a small wooded wedge glued on the under side of the port side of the hull,
This acted as a type of fitted trim tab so to speak.
It was only about 2.5" long, 3/4" wide and 1/2" deep at the end part of the wedge.
Similar to a door stop? if you get my meaning.

So during the next week before going to our next Boating Sunday Morning I had made this wedge and stuck it on, and to my amazement it cured my diving (submarining) on the starboard turns.

From then on I have always removed all of the forward part of the rudder right to the rudder post on all of my boats wether they are speed boats or other type.
I was told on a speed boat the forward part of the rudder if it ws too large it could act like a brake.
Also if I have any problem of subing/ diving on a turn then I add a small wedge on the opposite side on the underside of the hull. It usually cures it.

This is just what happening to my Precedent Huntsman.
All of my boats are with no power units as I removed all of my IC engines and sold them off on Ebay.
I am going to fit Brushless now as everywhere down here where I live have banned IC on the ponds due to polussion and noise.


I am NOT telling you to do this as was just advice I was given on the pond side to me by a fellow boater.
Every one has different idea's.
I have a bage of different size propellors that I tkae when I do go out with a boat and swap around util I find the one that I decide is the best for that boat with it's power unit. Wether it be 2 or 3 bladded.
But I do usually use maily 3 bladed.

I do NOT want to as I said, offend you or upset any of the other people that are on here giving you advice.


Good luck on getting her sorted ou soon
I hope to see a video of her running and turning nicely at speed soon.
And by the way I am a speed freak and want ALL of my boats to run FAST .
I hope to get my AreoKits Sea Queen finnised one day and up on plane at speed as well.
Best wishes
BOATSHED. Thomas🚤🚤🚤

Still more questions on sailing, ???.
I am really lucky at the moment getting these correct.
And I am not using Mr Google for help.
At the moment we are away in the motor home, so I wouldn’t know how to connect to two different devices at the same time.
It’s hard enough working it on one device for me let alone trying to do it on two devices together.🙄🙄

Another luckily guess, as I know nothing about sailing ships.
I am doing well again.🙏

I remember this one.
We had this one a while back.

Hi Junpugly,
Have you thought of trying a small mix of bot RAL 5009 and RAL 5015.
Just to see if that would lighten it up a bit to your liking.
Adding white may be just too much of a hit to the colour.
Just a suggestion, or experiment??
That's what I would try. But I am a bit odd at times to say the least. 🤗.
I do love the model though, wish I could have a model of her.
She is an amazing boat, so sad about what happened to her.
I did follow the rebuild of her.
I would love to be there when she is back out on the water for her next run.
Not sure thought when that is or which Loch it's going to be on.
Ullswater possibly ??

Where did you get the plans for that, just out of curiosity?