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    2 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    We had a couple of ducklings in the garden last year which was a surprise as we live on an estate quite away from any water!

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    3 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Hi Wolle, I think those are sparrows rather than finches. Anyway, here is one of my feathered friends enjoying the sun in the garden. He's having a rest after bringing up two broods during which time he trained me to feed him!

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    17 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Wolle - have a lovely day, sounds like a great trip.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ Dating ?????
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Yes, I don't think it's a problem mentioning what area we used to work in if retired but that's about it. Nothing more personal should be included.

    Number of children etc. is irrelevant.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ Aerokits pt boat bulkhead plans wanted
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Glad you got sorted then and it's always good if folks post about their builds, even if just when completed.

    ๐Ÿ“ Aerokits pt boat bulkhead plans wanted
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    I assume he has via Mahem as someone with a different name asked for exactly the same which would be too much of a coincidence.

    Maybe he will update us on here, if that is the case, but after only 2 posts over 14 years, both asking for plans, I'm not holding my breath! ๐Ÿค”

    ๐Ÿ“ Aerokits pt boat bulkhead plans wanted
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    I think someone is sending him some now.

    ๐Ÿ“ 34" Fairy Huntsman air scoops
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Hi Olly.

    If I send you the details for one of mine can you produce the CAD file at some point please. No rush as I have a way to go with my builds.

    I've done all my scratch build drawings in Visio which can't produce the files for 3D printing. I've started to learn TurboCAD but haven't got very far!

    Once I've got one CAD file I hope I can alter it for my other builds. They are all at a scale of 1:12 but the air inlets do vary in shape and size from model to model.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ The Swedish galleon VASA
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Reason I said what I did is that I thought a line had been written under it and thought that you'd want all the comments not about Vasa to be removed.

    I had a similar, but milder, exchange with someone on a car forum who misconstrued my innocent remark. After a short while I got the moderator to remove both our comments as I didn't want to be reminded about it and being at odds with the thread.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ The Swedish galleon VASA
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    It would be good if all the posts not about the Vasa could be deleted to leave the thread clean and just about the Vasa for future readers.

    You can do this yourselves or I'm sure Fireboat would be happy to do it. Including mine.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ Aerokits sea commander plan
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Yes, I know you did Will, just letting him know that the kit drawings don't usually have the bulkheads.

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    ๐Ÿ“ Double planking, a typically modeling technique or a technique also used in real wooden ships, commo
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    If anyone's wondering why Alessandro's post is before mine I changed the link to the video and could only do this by reposting. ๐Ÿ˜€

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ Aerokits sea commander plan
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Andrew. Do you already have the model or are you looking to build one?

    Reason I ask, is because the kit drawings don't usually have the frame/bulkhead templates.

    Will - I wondered whether you or Harry would have a copy. ๐Ÿ‘

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ Double planking, a typically modeling technique or a technique also used in real wooden ships, commo
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Not traditional diagonal planking as such but one of the things I like about the early Fairey Marine Boats was the construction of the hulls.

    These were formed with multiple layers of 2.5mm thick veneer that were formed around a wooden buck and then cured under heat and pressure in an autoclave.

    Small boats such as dinghies would have three layers whereas the bigger boats such as Huntsman and Swordsman could have up to nine layers. This makes for a very strong yet light hull. Unfortunately the process was very labour intensive and Fairey then moved into fibre-glass hulls.

    Not a technique than can be used in models!

    Chris



    ๐Ÿ“ 34" Fairy Huntsman air scoops
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    This is something I'm going to have to address with my builds at some point.

    I might try making some out of timber but I need a number of sets at different sizes so 3D printing is probably favourite.

    Good to see someone with a Modav model as most are Precedent.

    Photo would be good.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ Just to say Thank you!
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    I visit a number of forums and this has become my favourite model boat forum.

    Thanks to the members it remains pretty active, unlike others which seem quiet, partly due to the reduction in the size of the hobby overall.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ Taplin-Baker Hydrojet, RKH products
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    That's an interesting acquisition.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ Propeller Rotation (common propellers)
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    And they don't actually screw their way through the water, but let's not go there! ๐Ÿ˜€

    ๐Ÿ“ Propeller Rotation (common propellers)
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Very useful Lew. Thanks.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ Sea rover cabin cruiser
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Hi Lew

    Unloaded refers to the rpm of the motor that it is designed to achieve when it is running in fresh air. The manufacturer for instance may state 10k. rpm on 12 volts.

    Loaded refers to when the motor is actually being used in a boat etc. The resistance of the water and to a lesser extent losses due to the coupling and bearings mean that less than 10k. rpm will be achieved. 80% is usually used, so that may drop to 8k. rpm.

    Obviously using a too big a diameter prop, or one that is very coarse will reduce this further. Hence why I'm thinking that a 40mm prop should be Ok. Better to have a motor spinning freely near its max. design speed than one labouring at a lower rpm and producing heat.

    As Boatshed says, trying different props is the way to choose the best one for this boat, but unlike for a race boat, a number of sizes, within reason should work.

    I still want to be convinced by the battery being used and until sufficient rpm is achieved you are never going to get decent performance. The basics of the battery and particularly the motor have got to be sorted.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ Sea rover cabin cruiser
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    I see what you mean. I seem to remember reading somewhere that confusion arises because some prop manufacturers describe props using one convention but others state the opposite!

    From the Prop Shop web-site: "Please note that propeller rotation is based on theย British and American standard (viewing the boat from the stern) whichย is the opposite to that in Germany."

    As Graupner are German then that probably explains it?

    Chris

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    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Rotation a droite is to the right, so as you say clockwise.

    CCW would be counter-clockwise.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ Kits for Fairey Marine Models.
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Yes, I was wondering if I should add all the plans as well as I have many of them including kit drawings. But apart from myself, and you previously Bob, I haven't heard of anyone building a Fairey from scratch for a long, long time. Most builds are from the current SLEC kits or refurbs of 1:11 and 1:8 scale Precedent kit builds.

    For interest, a chap on another forum wanted to build a 60" Huntsman 31 with an IC engine (he has access to a lake) and so I've modified my drawings by adding some additional frames and stringers etc. I think these would be of benefit even if building smaller, particularly for producing the distinctive flared bow. If I build another one I will use these drawings.

    Photos show relative sizes of the Huntsman 31 and Swordsman 33. The former is like a racehorse compared to the Swordsman 33.

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    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    What battery are you using to give you 16.8v as that is pretty high and I reckon you should get on the plane with 11.1v/12v or even less as jbkiwi says.

    I think you should be alright with a 40mm prop and I think your problem is a lack of revs. 7000rpm is too low and how are you measuring? If unloaded then definitely too low. You don't want to go too big with the prop as you will probably have overheating problems.

    To plane you want around 9000 - 10000rpm loaded, so around 12000rpm unloaded.

    Can't find the rpm for your Traxxas motor but I did find one on 24v that only revved to 10000rpm so I'm thinking the 16.8v doesn't rev very high either being as it is a high torque motor for off-road vehicles. Nice motor but I don't think it's suitable for your use.

    I can't advise on a motor as I use brushless.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ Kits for Fairey Marine Models.
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    As requested here is a list of all the kits that have been produced for Fairey Marine boats. Only SLEC and Sarik Hobbies currently produce models. I think I've listed them all.

    Chris

    Huntsman 28

    Kit produced by Veron for a 42โ€, scale 1:8 model. No longer available but may come up for sale rarely.

    Swordsman 33

    Kit produced by Aerokits for a 33 ยผโ€, scale 1:12 model. This is for the aft cabin version where the roof is around deck level. No longer available but do sometimes come up.

    SLEC now produce a kit at 25โ€ where the aft cabin roof is slightly higher but still within the coamings.

    Huntsman 31

    The first Huntsman 31 kit was produced by Modav (Model Avionics) in the 1970s and was for a 34โ€ long model at the rather odd scale of 1:11. The business then morphed into Precedent Kits (Balsacraft) and they continued with the all wood kits but also added fibreglass hulled ones in both 34โ€/scale 1:11 and 47 ยฝ โ€/scale 1:8. Iโ€™ve never actually seen a big fibreglass hulled one.

    The rights to manufacture the kits were then bought by Anglian Model Products but not many were sold and the company has ceased trading.

    Unbuilt kits and built models come up on EBay quite often and are usually the Precedent kits as more of those were sold, though I donโ€™t think the kit design changed much, if at all through itโ€™s various incarnations.

    SLEC now produce kits at 23 ยฝ " and 47โ€ with the latter being a development of the Precedent kit and incorporating some changes to the construction and laser printed planked deck etc.

    Huntress 23

    Sarik Hobbies do a plan and laser cut wood kit for a 23โ€, scale 1:12 model.

    SLEC do a kit for a 34โ€, scale 1:8 model.

    Miscellaneous

    There was also a range of kits for a number of Fairey models but they are too small for practical use and therefore were not popular.

    ๐Ÿ“ Convention for displaying a model Boat
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Thanks. There was a kit of the Huntsman 28 by Veron many years ago and drawings, but you rarely see the kits nowadays. Infact you rarely see Huntsman 28 models at all as they became overshadowed by the Huntsman 31 kits, originally by Modav/Precedent and now by SLEC in the UK.

    The Veron kit and the drawings was too big for me at 42", scale 1:8, and I'm on a mission to scratch build all my Faireys at a scale of 1:12 as I'd already got a Huntress at that scale built by Dave Milbourn. Five underway and two more planned!

    As well as being too big for what I wanted I also wanted the superstructure to lift off as one to gain access to the motor and RC installation etc. So, I did my own drawings as per my other builds. The superstructure was fiddly as I wanted to keep the coamings thin, but I managed it.

    I'll post a list of all the Fairey kits on a separate thread.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ Convention for displaying a model Boat
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    I've got the book of the 1969 Round Britain Powerboat Race as it featured a number of Faireys. And the story of Peter Twiss's world record - it was amazing it ever happened given the problems.

    On YouTube there is a video of the race called Ride the white horses 1969 which is worth a watch along with a number of others featuring Faireys.

    One of my first Fairey builds was a Huntress 28 and whilst the stained deck looks quite nice I didn't plank it like my later builds so I think I'm going to finish it as a race boat - got to have one in the fleet! The decks on those were usually painted.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ New Zealand Trip
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Thanks for the info. and photos. I did do a quick Google but it wasn't clear to me whether the train had run since 2021.

    Pity about the hydrofoil being left to rot.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Aucklands' classic wooden boat festival ,1,2,3 March
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Some wonderful workmanship in those boats and canoes etc. Good to see.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ New Zealand Trip
    3 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Thanks JB, hopefully there's a cheque in the post from the tourist board! ๐Ÿ˜€

    Thanks for the information on the boat.

    It's a pity that the Kingston Flyer doesn't run anymore, especially where the track used to be from Queenstown towards Southland. But I suppose fire is an issue nowadays.

    Chris



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