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    ๐Ÿ“ Henamel Humbrol colors are back on the market.
    5 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    The ingredient that caused the ban was an anti-skinning agent and is called Methyl Ethyl Ketoxime or 'MEKO'. The amount in tinlets would be very small but obviously once it's identified as a problem action has to be taken.

    Chris

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    ๐Ÿ“ Henamel Humbrol colors are back on the market.
    6 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    That matches what I remember Roy.

    I seem to remember an article in Model Boats Magazine a few issues back where the "new" paint was reviewed and found to be favourable.

    I haven't used any for donkeys' years since building Airfix kits when I was young but will probably use some when I get to the detailing stage on my builds.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Faun 17
    6 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    Before removing the motor mount from the base I've glued the securing nuts in place with epoxy. The keel and frames have also been glued together in readiness for planking, my timber order having arrived. The notches for the stringers have been filled with timber as I've decided on planking longitudinally and they are not required.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    7 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    Back on this build now. The work on the keel getting it ready to be fitted to the frames is a job in itself. Today has been spent gluing timber strips in place for locating the frames and providing more gluing area. Also been fitting the pieces of stringer between the frame positions to support the planking along the keel.

    An order of timber and ply has arrived from SLEC in readiness for planking. Before then I've got to fix the frames to the building board and sand them to fit with the keel. Bit more involved as I'm using angled frames at the bow and stern.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ On my bench...
    7 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    Spot on there Doug.

    Some folks do have nice big and meticulously laid out workshops which provides satisfaction and interest in its own right but it doesn't mean they produce better models.

    I like to be tidy but I'm often working in a bit of a mess due to space considerations. I'm using the small bedroom as a workshop which also doubles up as general household storage and other interests, but whilst space is tight and I have to keep moving things and searching for things I like it as it's nice and cosy and warm at this time of year! There's some things I can't do or want to do in the house but I can live with that.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Faun 17
    11 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    Drilled and filed the hole out for the P bracket. Had to move the motor a touch sideways to ensure the prop was central to the keel and the P bracket vertical. Disassembly and reassembly was carried out a few times to achieve this but happy in the end. Prop shaft tube was then roughed up and then glued in place using 20 minute epoxy.

    About to order the timber for boarding now. Will probably use 3mm balsa which will be a first for me.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Faun 17
    12 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    Today I ran a drill through the keel to open it up for the prop shaft tube and finished it off with a round file to get the angle right. I then cut off two of the legs on the shaft support to form a P bracket and assembled everything so that the position of the motor mount could be determined and the length of the tube and prop shaft marked. The motor mount was bolted down, tube and prop shaft cut to length and everything reassembled again ready for gluing in position.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Faun 17
    13 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    Couldn't do anymore on my two boat builds in the run up to Christmas/after New Year so returned to my 1:10 Tamiya Unimog build which I hadn't touched for a long time. That is now a working rolling chassis which I road tested around the house. Body needs painting now so have put to one side again and returned to the boats.

    The Raboesch prop shaft and prop having been received I've spent a couple of hours today sorting out and finding the parts required (spent ages trying to find the motor!) for the installation.

    This build would have been fine with a brushed motor (as would the Fisherman) but I'm a big fan of brushless and have used them in all my builds. My experience with Overlander motors and HobbyWing ESCs has been good and I'm very happy with the slow speed performance in my River Cruiser with it moving away very slowly and smoothly.

    The motor is the smallest I've ever used being an Overlander 2822/27 and the prop is a brass 20mm diameter.

    Tomorrow I plan to work out the length of prop tube and shaft required and cut them to length.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ Half Hull
    26 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    I'm of the same opinion that it should be left as is. The beauty is in the simplicity and any additions would be at odds with this.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ Prop shaft lubricant
    28 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    Waterproof/marine grease would probably be the best bet from the likes of Cornwall Model Boats. Don't fill the stuffing/prop shaft tube though as that can cause significant drag which can lead to the motor overheating. Just apply to the bearing itself.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    28 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    The longer 4mm drill arrived and so the hole was drilled for the prop shaft. A base was then made for the motor mount and then I was able to assemble the prop shaft so that I could mark how much to reduce the tube and shaft by and cut them to length.

    A splint was made for the coupling from strips of mahogany and tape to form a straight connecter and another piece of ply was added to the motor mount base to line the motor and prop shaft up and ensure that it turned freely. The propshaft tube was then glued in place with 20 minute epoxy.

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Faun 17
    28 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    I finished gluing the frames in place and so it is now almost ready for the keel. I say almost, as I need to order the prop shaft and glue that in whilst I still have good access. Need to order the balsa sheet as well which I will cut down for the planking.

    So, that is as far as I can go for now so have returned to the Fisherman.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Swordman
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    So, how did it go! ๐Ÿ˜€

    ๐Ÿ“ She said yes.
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    She may have noticed a few clues! ๐Ÿ˜†

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    ๐Ÿ“ Merry Christmas!
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    Merry Christmas to you as well and to the other forumites.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Paused for thought
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    I guess the way to go is to do it in balsa and sand to shape, using some P38 filler if required. Shouldn't add too much weight.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Faun 17
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    Most of the frames now glued to the deck so the shape of the hull is becoming apparent. Before starting assembly I did drill and cut out the keel in readiness for taking the prop shaft. This is a Radoesch of the same type that I'm using in the Fisherman, both of which need cutting to length.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Faun 17
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    Thanks Flaxybuck, I'm enjoying it as well. I used the shaped building board method on my Huntress and River Cruiser as well as they were built in the same way. It's a good way to build smaller boats and camber could be applied to the deck later if desired. I'm not going to do that though as the bow area is only small.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Faun 17
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    Assembly of hull underway.

    ๐Ÿ“ Fairey Faun 17
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    So.....! ๐Ÿ˜Š

    As per my previous form I've started another build! This is the baby of the fleet at 16.5" at my usual 1;12 scale. There is information about the boat, the Fairey Faun, further down the thread. Whilst I did the drawings after those for the Fisherman I did intend to build it first as a practice for my first plank on frame build, with it being smaller and simpler. Being small will bring challenges of fitting things in.

    As with waiting for the drill for the Fisherman there's going to be times waiting for materials and glue to dry etc. so it makes sense to start another, well to me!

    With my other Fairey builds still requiring further painting and detailing to complete them this will add up to seven on the go! ๐Ÿ˜

    I printed out the drawings for the hull and have now cut them out roughly on the scroll saw so that I can drill holes for cables etc. which will be followed up with more cutting and then sanding to the lines.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kathryn - a Thames Bawley - 13
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    It is regrettable but unfortunately a fact of life as you get older. I sold my big 47" Huntsman because it was getting unmanageable and decided that I wouldn't build any bigger than around 35".

    It's not the all out weight that's the problem as I don't have a problem with that so much it's the substantial weight plus an awkward shape and the increased chance of damaging the model.

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    Been doing a bit more on and off over the last few days on the keel. Whilst the drop keel itself will pass through the 9mm hull keel the sleeve won't as that's virtually 9mm as well so the decision was made to cut a section out of the hull keel. This was achieved by gluing a doubler to one side, cutting out the section with a razor saw and then gluing another doubler on. Once the sleeve is glued in position the void will be filled with P38 body filler.

    I then started fitting some other doublers and drilling out for the prop shaft and for the bearing adjacent to the prop. Also made and fitted the base for the motor mount so that I can cut the prop shaft tube and shaft to length. Having to wait for a longer drill to arrive for finishing off the hole for the shaft though.

    So.....!

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ My harbour, re Yorkshireman
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    That's really weird. Out of interest I went into Boat Harbour via Main Menu and searched on Yorkshireman and it came up so it appears to be on the site just not visible when you go via My Harbour.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ My harbour, re Yorkshireman
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    I've just had a look at your Harbour via your profile and the model is in there from 6 years ago.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ“ Precedent Huntsman twin motors
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    Hi - if no-one on here can help I can point you in the direction of a build on another forum though it's the GRP hull version. Is yours GRP or timber?

    I can also give you my thoughts on motor size. Do you prefer brushed or brushless?

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    Progress has been sporadic as I've had to do other things, as usual!

    But I transferred my drawing to the mahogany hull keel using carbon paper again. I didn't know if the lines would show up Ok on the darker timber and had bought a white Sharpie - needn't have worried though as can see them fine.

    I was going to use my bandsaw for the 9mm mahogany but after trying my scroll saw it cut fine and square (after previous setting up before I started this project). Changed the blade a couple of times to ensure stayed sharp and took it easy. Once cut out I sanded it with a range of PermaGrit tools.

    The top pieces of the bow and stern were then cut out as I bought two smaller planks to do the job rather than one big one and these were then jointed and glued to the main part of the hull keel.

    Couple of days ago I cut a building board from an old shelf and once the hull keel is finished I can start assembling that and the frames on the baseboard. This is a first for me, using extended frames as well as the other firsts I listed before! ๐Ÿ˜€

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    Hi Mike - I use Microsoft Visio which is a diagram and vector graphics package. It's not really the best program for the job but I used to use it at work for building construction drawings as our IT department in their wisdom wouldn't let me have CAD. It wasn't good for that either but being an architectural draftsman I made it work and when I got interested in model boats I started using it for that as well.

    Since retiring I did buy TurboCAD so that I could produce 3D print files but I'm effectively learning from scratch even for 2D so it's gone on the backburner and I've gone back to Visio. I've got an A3 printer but I can export drawings I've done as PDFs etc.

    This is a side view of Faun, one of my next builds, which I produced from my build drawings.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    On and off over the last few days I've sanded the frames to the lines and cut out the notches for the stringers.

    Next job will be to cut the keel out from 9mm mahogany and fix the frames to a baseboard.

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Jetty for model boats
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    Something you have to consider Mike is if you have to cater for different types and scales of boats as the requirements and designs could be very different.

    Having a jetty is great though and something I've thought about - having all my Faireys moored up would be wonderful!

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Fairey Fleet
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    I've been lucky enough to get the other Huntress that Dave built so they have been reunited again.



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