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    Fairey Huntsman 31 Sport
    The Huntsman 31 is usually built as the more common and practical aft cabin version but the rarer Sport version, mainly used for racing, has a full length cockpit which compliments the sleek lines of the hull. It is this version that I've just started to build as a winter project. Chris
    Fairey Spearfish
    My intention was to only build the wooden hulled Faireys but this came along and it was manners not too! The kit is semi-scale so what I'm going to do is build the superstructure in timber as per the first two Spearfish that were built before they became all GRP construction. Timber superstructure and GRP hull is a nice contrasting combination. Still in the box at the moment and will be for a while as other projects are underway. Chris
    HydroPro Affinity Yacht
    This is a 650mm long yacht and was brought out as a cheaper alternative to the DragonForce 65. It has a wider beam than the DF but the sails etc. are very similar. It is a great yacht to sail and is ideal for learning to sail as it was for me.
    Fairey Swordsman 33
    This is the third of my scratch builds in progress and again at a scale of 1:12. There are drawings available at this scale but I wanted to produce the rear cockpit version where the roof sits just under the coamings rather than the one with the roof level with the deck or the fully open cockpit version. I also wanted to incorporate changes to make it easier to build it the way I wanted to. The build of this boat is behind the other two and will continue to be so because I'm going to plank the deck and rear cockpit roof.
    Fairey Huntsman 28
    This is the second of my scratch builds in progress and like them all is being built to a scale of 1:12. I've produced my own design because I wanted the whole of the superstructure to be removeable in one to allow easy access.
    Fairey River Cruiser
    This is the first of the scratch builds I'm undertaking and is at 1:12, so 23" long. The River Cruiser was a Fairey prototype based on the Huntress 23 hull but with a greater freeboard. Only one was built and didn't survive. My build is based on a black and white photograph and reference to the Huntress hull.
    Fairey Huntress
    This is a 1:12 model, so 23" long. It's one of the 2 prototypes designed and built by Dave Milbourn and as such the build quality and attention to detail is superb.
    Fairey Huntsman 31
    It's a Precedent Huntsman 31, scale 1:8 and 47" long. My first purchase about 3 years ago when I first took an interest in the hobby. Well built, but heavy with the lead acid battery. Since taken that out along with the old RC gear, which is going to be replaced with modern kit, brushless motor and LiPo batteries for lighter weight and better performance.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: mini update
    3 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi - I think he is talking about the pickup for the water cooling rather than the prop shaft?

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    πŸ’¬ Re: K & O Outboard motors
    4 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    As said, very nice looking motors.

    Future plans is for a model with an outboard.

    What do those scale to?

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    πŸ’¬ Re: Fairey Huntsman 31 Sport
    4 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Build progressing. Slowly at moment (well that's my usual speed!) as I'm doing some work and decorating in the bedrooms and landing at the same time.

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    πŸ“ Boat Stand
    4 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    I build decent stands but that stand is interesting. Thanks for posting.

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    πŸ’¬ Re: Fairey Huntsman 31 Sport
    4 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Thanks Martin. I'll post some photos up as the build progresses.

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    πŸ’¬ Re: Fairey Spearfish
    4 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Thanks Peter. I'm a late starter to the hobby, about 3 years ago, so I've only ever used brushless (well apart from my Club 500 which was already built). The hull will probably be the only part that I use.

    Just realised that this build and the Huntsman 31 Sport will be very similar as the mould for the Spearfish GRP hull was taken from the wooden Huntsman one.

    Nerys - yes you still see Atalantas for sale. Building a model of one will probably be a future project - I've already got the original Fairey drawing.

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    πŸ“ Fairey Huntsman 31 Sport
    4 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    The Huntsman 31 is usually built as the more common and practical aft cabin version but the rarer Sport version, mainly used for racing, has a full length cockpit which compliments the sleek lines of the hull.

    It is this version that I've just started to build as a winter project.

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    πŸ“ Fairey Spearfish
    4 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    My intention was to only build the wooden hulled Faireys but this came along and it was manners not too!

    The kit is semi-scale so what I'm going to do is build the superstructure in timber as per the first two Spearfish that were built before they became all GRP construction. Timber superstructure and GRP hull is a nice contrasting combination.

    Still in the box at the moment and will be for a while as other projects are underway.

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    πŸ’¬ Re: race 500
    6 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi - I bought one off another club member a few weeks ago to practise my power boat skills and do some informal i.e. fun racing at the club. They go and handle really well and are great fun.

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    πŸ’¬ Re: Fairey Huntress
    7 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Ha, ha, no idea, that was one of Dave's photographs.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Fairey Huntsman 31
    7 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Yes, you could say that Doug! πŸ˜€
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    πŸ“ HydroPro Affinity Yacht
    7 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    This is a 650mm long yacht and was brought out as a cheaper alternative to the DragonForce 65. It has a wider beam than the DF but the sails etc. are very similar. It is a great yacht to sail and is ideal for learning to sail as it was for me.

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    πŸ“ Fairey Swordsman 33
    7 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    This is the third of my scratch builds in progress and again at a scale of 1:12.

    There are drawings available at this scale but I wanted to produce the rear cockpit version where the roof sits just under the coamings rather than the one with the roof level with the deck or the fully open cockpit version. I also wanted to incorporate changes to make it easier to build it the way I wanted to.

    The build of this boat is behind the other two and will continue to be so because I'm going to plank the deck and rear cockpit roof.

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    πŸ“ Fairey Huntsman 28
    7 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    This is the second of my scratch builds in progress and like them all is being built to a scale of 1:12.

    I've produced my own design because I wanted the whole of the superstructure to be removeable in one to allow easy access.
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    πŸ“ Fairey River Cruiser
    7 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    This is the first of the scratch builds I'm undertaking and is at 1:12, so 23" long.

    The River Cruiser was a Fairey prototype based on the Huntress 23 hull but with a greater freeboard. Only one was built and didn't survive. My build is based on a black and white photograph and reference to the Huntress hull.
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    πŸ“ Fairey Huntress
    7 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    This is a 1:12 model, so 23" long. It's one of the 2 prototypes designed and built by Dave Milbourn and as such the build quality and attention to detail is superb.

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    πŸ“ Fairey Huntsman 31
    7 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    It's a Precedent Huntsman 31, scale 1:8 and 47" long.

    My first purchase about 3 years ago when I first took an interest in the hobby. Well built, but heavy with the lead acid battery. Since taken that out along with the old RC gear, which is going to be replaced with modern kit, brushless motor and LiPo batteries for lighter weight and better performance.

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    πŸ“ 48inch Fairey Huntsman
    9 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Little Charlie - I wouldn't bother going down the IC route again, there aren't many places where you are allowed to use them now.

    I bought one of the big Huntsman 31 (though all timber) a little while ago and it is fitted with a brushed Torpedo 850 motor which with a 7.2v lead acid battery (very heavy) has mediocre performance.

    I plan on changing to a LiPo battery and a brushless motor and would be looking at something like an Overlander Thumper 5045/10 720 kV. This has plenty of torque to get a heavy boat moving and as you can use 3 to 8s batteries it should give you all the performance that you want.

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    πŸ’¬ Re: Old Swordsman or Huntsman ?
    11 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    You appear to have two separate threads running on this?

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    πŸ“ Swordsman or Huntsman?
    11 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    As DodgyGeezer says the model in question is an Aerokits Swordsman with an aft cabin under the deck - others versions had an aft cabin with a higher roof just under the side coamings (I'm building one) or a full length open cockpit, which is the one that many models are based on.

    The Huntsman 31 was available in two versions, the more common version with the aft cabin and the rarer open cockpit version the Sport.

    The Huntsman 28 and as stated the Huntress are open cockpit only.

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    πŸ’¬ Hull finishing touches
    12 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Stuart - as you can see from the article in Model Boats, Colin has fitted a contrasting timber to the perimeter of the hull and up the centre of the bow and then infilled with planking.

    Another method is to veneer the deck and just varnish it or drawn lines on it with Biro or pencil before varnishing.

    SLEC do laser etched ply but the planks are straight.

    Really it depends on how accurate you want the result to be and how much time you want to spend on it.

    With my Huntsman 28 build I'm just using birch ply and varnishing it whilst with my larger Swordsman 33 (but same scale) I'm going the whole hog and planking it.

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    πŸ’¬ Basic hull construction completed
    12 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Stuart - I have a Huntress which is the same length as your Huntsman which was built by Dave M. it will be a little lighter as it doesn't have an aft cabin. it is fitted with a Turnigy D2836/11 750kV so the one recommended to you is a good choice.

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    πŸ’¬ Basic hull construction completed
    12 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    I guess you will only be able to tell properly is when it's primered. I suppose you could always fill it and resand - that will be my fallback position!

    Is the motor size in the instructions? Had a look at a build article and it's not in there. if you haven't got it it's well worth getting because as well as the build of that very kit Dave Milbourn has written an article on finishing nd painting which I'm reffering to. it's the Model Boats Winter Special Edition 2018.

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    πŸ’¬ Basic hull construction completed
    12 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Stuart - I'm scratch building a Swordsman, albeit larger than your Huntsman as I'm building at 1:12, so 33" long. I haven't worked on it for a few weeks but am at a similar stage with the hull in that I'm just about to sand the concave into the bow to form the flare. This is a stressful part and I might delay it and start on the superstructure!

    From the photos it's difficult to tell if you have overdone it or not due to the different materials breaking up the lines. it looks OK head on and from the side but when looking down towards the keel it does look a little excessve.

    I'm going to be building a Huntsman 31 as well soon but again at 1:12 so will be from plans, either existing or my own. I've got three Fairey builds on the go at the moment and another on the drawing board, well PC.

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    πŸ’¬ Friday's Child Fairey Huntsman 31
    12 months ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    I would have thought the motor size would be given in the build instructions or on the plans given Dave Milbourn's (the kit designer) attention to detail.

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    πŸ’¬ Cooling coil
    1 year ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    An outrunner is better for this type of boat as it is more torquey. if cooling is needed (and it may not) just use a proper water cooled motor mount. Chris

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    πŸ“ Fairey River Cruiser
    1 year ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Only just seen this thread, don't know how I missed it? Some lovely boats.

    Here's my Fairey River Cruiser which is in the process of being built along with a couple of other Faireys. Chris

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    πŸ’¬ Cooling coil
    1 year ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Yes, that is what was thinking. Normally with brushless motors it is the motor mount that is water cooled which draws the heat out of the motor. it may not need cooling anyway.

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    πŸ“ Sea Queen Frames
    1 year ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    "I wish I had never said anything or about Biro pretend deck planking Cheers Ian T"

    You weren't to know he was selling such crap! Are you sure it's the same guy you got yours from? I can't believe he was supplying first class drawings years ago and is now supplying rubbish. Why bother drawing (well trying to) around the frames etc. when you already have good drawings?

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    πŸ“ Sea Queen Frames
    1 year ago by ChrisF ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Yes, copyright is a real hornet's nest.

    I remember reading an article in Building magazine many years ago on the subject of copyright where one large housebuilder tried to take another to court because it had copied one of its designs. But because the defendant had slightly altered the design it got away with it.

    So for example if I put my Swordsman drawings on Ebay, which were based on the kit drawings, I shouldn't have any problem as I have made a number of alterations. I won't be of course as I've only drawn enough for me to build my model, they are not full working drawings and I'm not interested in doing that.

    Where that guy on Ebay is at fault is that he is blatantly copying the original kit drawings with Aerokits on them rather than redrawing them - not that he has the wherewithal!

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