Hi, I made the bridge to my drawing. I think it's right. I would think that Noram Ough had his basic dimensions correct. If not I might as well start over! In the pic I am attaching, there is a platform with what looks like a very large searchlight, but it is not clear enough to be sure, Seems a bit unlikely. I am giving her a 36 foot launch. I assume it would have been grey, though I am tempted to paint it black, with varnished wood cabin and mahogany foredeck. I am beginning to feel a bit stupid asking so many questions. I hope you don't feel 'oh no not him again!😡 Never had anyone to consult before. Most of the time here it's me helping others in our little club. You got around a lot of ships all over the world I think. What were you doing, or shouldn't I ask? Regards Norm
Hi Doug, I am beginning to think I will have to make her a generic of Illustrious! I originally intended my model to be as she was in 1942/3. She had so many modifications I am getting lost. My only drawing is one by Norman Ough, from the Great Britain Trust. It has proved to be rather inaccurate. Usually I get drawings from Greenwich, but for some reason they were unable to this time. Maybe just as well as from all the pics I have seen she was probably never as designed. I made the Hull from those drawings, and have had to make alterations to agree with photos! The turrets I had already realized I must alter. Not too great a problem. Just remake the actual turrets but barrels okay. According to my drawing there were two multiple Pom poms abaft the funnel, one one deck below the base of the funnel and the other at flight deck level and two forward of the island, one at flight deck level. I have all the Pom Pom units eight barrelled. Your pic taken from port side forward I was taken in the Pacific I think, as she has the damage to the bridge from kamikaze hit. I'll take a pic tomorrow showing my model as she is now see what you think. Best till then Norm
Hi Doug, Surprise surprise, got another problem. Attached [ic showing two small empty platforms. I don't think they would have had 40mm guns - too small - and I doubt more gun controls or range finders. Any ideas?
Hi Doug, No wonder you're a fleet admiral! Sounds as if you have had quite a time, and I'd guess just about retiring, which I've been for some sixteen years now after most of my adult life running tour coaches, twenty years overland to India and Nepal. Resurrected model ship building when I came to Canada. There is a guy in Hamilton with an American carrier which is about seven feet long. He has a special box and trailer for it. Installs the ballast after launching. It sails well, though does not like wind, and is not much to look at. He had it on our lake about three years ago for our annual Canada day regatta. My longest ship is HMS Ceres, five feet. Sails well and is remarkably stable for such a narrow really oversize destroyer. Back to sorting out pom pom control systems about half an inch high, and fguring out how to fit the windscreen to Fairey Fulmars. Best Norm
Hi Doug, Surprise. I did flight deck estimated colour from photo off net as being dark grey. I have all the other decks similar. Hope is ok, I originally thought to build her for RC, but my plan was for 1/8" to the foot, and no way could (a) build in my workshop space, as even built in two halves they have to be put together at some stage during build, and (b) launching a seven foot model would be a big problem on our lake. My Nelson is 1/16" and sails very well. Another reason was, as my wife pointed out, I have enough ships to sail, and storage is a bit of a problem. We have one upstairs room, known here as a loft, which rather resembles a museum when all ships are in port so to speak. She reckons we shall have to move soon, get a bigger house! What took you to Munich? Norm
Hi Doug, Your Ark Royal, what is the deck colouring on her boat decks? Of course the Brits invented all those mods. They have had the most actual action! Are the arrester wires on your model? If so, what is the spacing between them? As you will see in my pic, taken today, the flight deck is armoured. My problem is the decks of all the small gun platforms etc. Also the deck surrounding the funnel? That might well have been armour. I assume you are in the UK? I am in Ontario. Norm
Thanks. Trouble with a carrier there are so many small deck sections on all the various outboard platforms, I assume wherever feet would go there would be corticene. Carriers are capital ships, which have timber decks as a rule. But maybe the bridge had planked floors, but everywhere else corticene. Boat decks also. You know, model ship builders have to be nuts!
I have a number of drawings sets, came from Greenwich, which I am unlikely ever to use again. They are HMS Valhalla (V & W destroyer), HMS Ceres, HMS Erebus, HMS Nelson and SS Great Britain and SS San Demetrio (tanker). The drawings are in Canada so postage could be a problem. Anyone interested?
Thanks for the portside pic. Answered my upcoming query - did Illustrious' Bofors have a shield. I have Norman Ough's book, with excellent detailed drawing of the gun, but no way can I get all that detail made at 192 scale.
In fact I manage okay, but my wife occasionally complains it is difficult to get to the dryer. Have another query. Attached pic taken from Wikipedia. What is the structure below the curve down end of the flight deck? It was taken in 1940 so probably original build.
Hi Bill, Thanks. The flightdeck pic is a beaut. Trouble is she underwent so many alterations, mainly of course to the island. I have so many very poor photos taken off the net, and I don't think two are the same! I am afraid my model is going to be a hybrid over ten years. I am putting up a couple of pics showing my space problem. One problem I have is that the damp emitted by the washing machine and dryer tends to rust things.
Hi, Thanks. What scale are you building to? I had originally intended to build to 1-96, but my workshop facility would not be able to cope, and my wife also pointed out I have enough sailing models already! So waterline to 192. Norm
Not being an electronics guy as you obviously are, I have relied on experimentation. I also don't have the equipment to measure current draw etc. The two motors in Erebus probably draw quite a bit of current, but that draw should not have changed? Worked before, surely should again with a better control unit? If I fitted two units, presumably I would be able to run engines, one forward and the other astern, and turn on sixpence. Nice for docking,
Thanks for all the tips. The model is to scale, including the props but the motors are more than capable of turning them. All in all I have to agree the problem may well be overheating, so have ordered a Viper Marine 15 from Model Dockyard. Will let you know if this solves the problem. The puzzling thing is that previously the ship sailed with no problems! I hate electronics!
I am not an electric sort of bloke. What surprises me with the problem is that everything worked well for a long time. She has basically the same set up as my other ships, basically simple. Battery, speed control, two motors turning two shafts, with shafts lubricated. The battery fully charged, the radio and receiver set up okay, motors run with no problem when fed current directly, and no problems with prop shafts. Maybe my best bet is to simply obtain another control same as original. I get the impression the Duratrax is meant for cars?
The speed control is a Duratrax Sprint, which has a heat sink built on. The props are three blade, one inch diameter, made to scale as is the rudder. I originally fitted a blue speed control, forgotten the make but very common. It had a problem, after maybe ten hours sailing, so fitted the Duratrax, new. The control gets very slightly warm to touch when run in dry dock so to speak.
Erebus is of course long finished and sailing. However, a strange electrical fault has occurred. She will be sailing beautifully, and then just stop. Wait a minute or two, and she goes again, only to do the same again! The problem cannot be with the radio or receiver, as steering works when engines dead. Anyone have any ideas?
My model is well advanced, but the problem is not so much drawings as main detail of the port side of the island. As the ship underwent fairly extensive modifications during her career, my model is really a bit of a hybrid, in that she will be mostly accurate, but over a period of some six years. I am also rather stuck with the detail beneath the round down of the flight deck aft. Photographs off the net tend to be rather blurry. She currently has six Swordfish and will have six Fairey Fulmars.