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    MTB from a Model Boats plan
    Here are a couple of pics of my MTB which I built from a freebie plan which was in Model Boats - the plans were by Glyn Guest. We had it on the lake last Sunday for a run around - she has a 540 motor fitted; an Mtroniks 15 amp speed controller; and can run for a good while on 7.2 300 mAh batteries
    Virgin Atlantic Challenger
    Hi there, this is the only pic I have of Virgin Atlantic Challenger on the water, which I built from 'free' plans in a model boats magazine - built all of lite ply - powered by 7.4 NiCad batteries - and there is a Race 5
    (Naval Ship) HMS PENELOPE
    This model was made by me from Glyn Guest plans - I made this a good few year ago. Of all the scale models I have built I like this one. When you take a scale model to the lake you have to be so careful not to damage anything - with this one you just put the model in the back of the car and throw it in the water - well not literally (you have to drive down to the lake first)๐Ÿค“๐Ÿค“ - many hours of enjoyment. (Motor: MFA) (5/10)
    (Working Vessel) MV DUBURG
    scratch built model from Jim Pottinger plans - I made this several years ago - plank on frame and the hull is double planked. 1:96 scale/ (Motor: MFA 550) (5/10)
    (Other) RTTL 2751
    model was originally built by myself using a mixture of Vic Smeed plans and photographs/plans from a gent called Christian - my model is double-planked. Outer planking is scale sized; props both drive the same way as in the original boats. (ESC: ACTion) (8/10)
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 40" Seaplane Tender, new build N
    5 days ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    would it not be worth using a system called the closed loop system? this gives you a better / more precise control over your rudders. I take it that the rubber tube between the two rudders is just a temporary thing - just to get the size etc., ? but, here's a photograph (if you don't mind) of a system I use on the majority of my twin ruddered models - especially on MTBs and high speed models.

    John

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 40" Seaplane Tender, new build
    5 days ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    hi there
    looking at the photographs of your rudders. I was just wondering, would it not be worth using a system called the closed loop system? this gives you a better / more precise control over your rudders. I take it that the rubber tube between the two rudders is just a temporary thing - just to get the size etc., ? but, here's a photograph (if you don't mind) of a system I use on the majority of my twin ruddered models - especially on MTBs and high speed models.

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    ๐Ÿ“ Electronics 43x esc
    14 days ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    hi there, just an update. Electronize is around (in a fashion) although they don't advertise - Dave Mainprize, the owner of Electronize, is still running the Company. Although they aren't producing the 30 amp speed controller, I am lead to believe they are still doing the 43X which is a 15 amp one. How you go about purchasing I am unsure - however - if you do a web search you can come up with his telephone number/address.

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    ๐Ÿ“ Electronics 43x esc
    14 days ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi will this help you

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: HMS EXETER
    2 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi there
    senile moment for me :-) as there is already a short build of HMS Exeter on here if you do a search - you will come across the build by me and there are some closeup pics on there.

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    ๐Ÿ“ Joining ply hull sides
    2 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi there,
    Somewhere - in the UK - you can purchase 8 ft x 4ft sheets of 2 mm birch plywood. I know because I bought some for a model shop in Whitburn, Tyne and Wear a while ago - they cut if from an 8ft x 4ft for me - but the problem in now the shop in Whitburn has now closed down. I have been doing a bit of web search and I have come across this link but it seems it will only sell to the industry. If you contact them they may be able to let you know who they supply too.
    https://www.specialisedpanels.co.uk/birch-plywood.html
    Or they may even sell it to you - good luck.


    When I was joining plywoods on real boats we used to feather them (taper them) but you wont be able to do that with 2mm thick ply. So, as suggested above, may be the best option.


    John
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    ๐Ÿ“ Fairmile c class maiden voyage
    2 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    hi there Chewi
    having read through your postings and watching your video - I am not sure if you have the ACTion P94 set up correctly. You should be able to spin that model round on the spot as the P94 contains a rudder motor mixer built into it. However, be warned, the P94 doesnt like certain 2.4 transmitter sets. Basically, you have to set your transmitter back to zero manufacture settings with no mixing at all on your transmitter to get it working - and - its all done in the ESC - I have built several triple screw vessels myself - the RAF63and the MTBs and basically what I used to do there is use the old Electronize speed controllers from the 90s which dont have the pre-programmed chips in them so that I could switch the signal on and off to the speed controller, thus allowing me to control the centre prop by switching the signal off and on. So, when I wanted speed I ran on all 3 props but when I wanted to manouvre I switched the centre prop off and allowed the 2 outboard motors to spin the vessel with the rudders, using mixers.

    In this particular model - I would ditch the gelcel battery and go for a Ni-MH battery and the 9.6 volt 500 mAh - 3 of these batteries one for each motor should give you ample run time.


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    ๐Ÿ“ how did your sailing day go?
    2 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    hi ya
    pretty windy today (after rain at first) so there wasnt much sailing for us lot - but the yachties were loving it. I took my oil rig supply vessel down The Seaforth Conqueror and had 10 mins down the lake. Hope you all had some good sailing today.
    Lets see some more pics of your sailing :-)
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    ๐Ÿ“ how did your sailing day go?
    2 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    hi ya Doug,
    Well here are a couple of pics of John Neilson's torpedo destroyer boat - it's based loosely on a couple of photographs that he had seen - so its not of a particular vessel.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: HMS EXETER
    2 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    hi there

    give me a couple of days and I will put a couple of pictures on from the build

    :-)

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    2 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    here's a short clip of my RTTL tearing up the lake :-) she has 2 MTroniks 600s driving 30 ml brass props both rotating in the same direction as in the real boats and she has 2 x 4300 mAmp ni-cad batteries in. Lasts for about 15 mins full chat :-)

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    ๐Ÿ“ how did your sailing day go?
    2 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi there Doug
    the model is loosely based on a TBD and its built by John Nielson basically built for straight running so its a stand off scale. Note the handle on the back end for holding it when its on the water. Having said all of that, if you like, when I go back to the lake I will ask John if I may take some more pics. its steam driven as well Doug.

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    ๐Ÿ“ how did your sailing day go?
    2 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Open day to day at South Shields model club, And the SUN came out just for us - a few more pics to follow when I find where they are on the computer :-)


    Anyone interested that's Don Walkinshaw's Bluebird with a home made jet engine.

    Pisces II owned by Bob Kirtley and this held the World Speed record for steam powered hydro plane at 122 mph (tethered)


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    ๐Ÿ“ NAAMA Tug Plan
    2 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    hi ya there, been quiet because I had sent for the magazine not knowing if the plans were there - but - the plans are here and what I have done is scanned them on my A4 scanner and there are a good few bits of the plan scanned. Send me your email in a personal message and I will try to email all to you. Not guaranteeing they will turn out okay - but hey I have printed a few off and they seem okay on A4 - You could print them all off and piece them all together to get your plan.

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    ๐Ÿ“ Rivets
    2 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    hi there
    how about this one - old as the hills this - an old alarm clock cog mounted in an old file handle - it makes the perfect tool for simulating rivets in thin plasticard. I know I often go round at the old flea markets etc and look for pieces for old clocks - I look in the boxes for old bits of letterbox flaps etc., cos sometimes the flaps are made from brass. Its marvellous the stuff you can find/reuse in modelling.

    Keep on modelling - as they say

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    ๐Ÿ“ NAAMA Tug Plan
    2 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    HI try hear
    http://magazineexchange.co.uk/cw/marine-modelling-magazine-j...
    and also on ebay
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MARINE-MODELLING-JANUARY-2013-FOX...

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Canadian coast guard vessel
    2 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    hi ya Jim

    thank you very much - but - I have now managed to source a set of plans - I am now sourcing more details :-)

    John
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    ๐Ÿ“ Warship revolving turrets and elevation of guns
    3 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi, I must confess I have thought of using BB system myself to fire plastic pellets, as my son is into airsoft and he has one or two airsoft innards e.g. gear boxes and compression cylinders which are available to me for a slight price (I bet). Problem is though these firing mechanisms from airsoft guns can fire a pellet between 300 and 350 fps (feet per second) which can be lethal if you hit someone at the side of the lake. My son just informed me it can be a criminal office if the internals of an airsoft gun have been used in a model. Be very cautious and look into it. I am sure there are places who do mock battles and use similar systems to this. You would need to source these people and find out the rules and regulations from them before proceeding.

    Just re-read your posting and realise you are going to use tank internals - I am not sure what the system is there, but even with that, its wise to check it out first before firing in a public place.

    john

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    ๐Ÿ“ Warship revolving turrets and elevation of guns
    3 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    hi there

    here is a possible idea for you - this is the system I used for the guns on HMS Exeter which is of a scale of 1:96 - I used a miniature servo for elevation; also a servo which is able to drive 180 degrees for the main rotation of the gun.

    The servo is mounted underneath and where you locate the arm on the servo, I made a tube which goes all the way through the barbet into the base of the gun, this is the connection which rotates the gun.

    The cable from the miniature servo which elevates the barrels run inside the tube and comes out through a small hole at the base of it.


    I also use an electronic servo slower and stretcher from Forge Electronics to slow the movement of the guns down to a scale speed. The only problem I had, was, I found when elevating the barrels up and down - they tended to be slightly jerky in movement and it took me a while to work out how to dampen this - and all things equal - the simplest solution came to rest - make a rubber wedge which fits between the side of the barrel mounting and the side of the casing, causing a little bit of resistance.

    Hope this is of some help.
    http://www.forge-electronics.co.uk/index.php/boats/servo-con...


    John
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    ๐Ÿ“ Rivets
    3 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    hi there

    these little rivets were suggested to myself, when I was building a model of a tug - for the rivets around the funnel. But, I never actually used the rivets so they are still here in the box ready for me to try. I cannot therefore comment on what they are like to use. However, its more food for thought/another method for you to try if your dressmakers' pins idea doesn't work or turn out to your liking.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Czech-Master-Button-headed-Rivets...

    John
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Canadian coast guard vessel
    3 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    hi there really like your model - it looks superb on the water - we need a bit of ice now. I fancy a go at one of these - so, please where did you obtain the plans from?

    :-)

    John
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    ๐Ÿ“ how did your sailing day go?
    3 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    hows about a new thread - about - our day down at the lake with a few pictures?

    unless this type of thread has already been done .

    it just lets us all see our sailing facilities etc.

    John
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    ๐Ÿ“ What could this Hull be for?
    3 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    hi there
    How's about a police launch or a pilot boat?

    if you google some photographs of the Southampton police boat - I believe the hull may be similar to this.

    I tend to think it isnt a lifeboat as lifeboats generally have a tunnel hull where the props are - to give them some protection - as has been mentioned apart from the new lifeboats which are waterjet.

    I think its definitely some form of workboat .

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    ๐Ÿ“ Motor, speed controller
    3 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    โ€ฆโ€ฆ..โ€ฆ and some more pics - (it wouldn't allow me to modify my last posting :-) )

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    3 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi there, As promised here are some pics of Terry's rescue craft and you know the old saying - when you don't know - keep ya clagger shut - well, it hasn't got 500 motors in it - it only has 380s which are geared. There are two servos which are the 180 degree type movement; and were purchased from Ebay and these operate the 2 arms and the arms are hidden underneath the two cable drums either side. See what you think. Bit thought for ya project :-)

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    ๐Ÿ“ Motor, speed controller
    3 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi there,
    this is a rescue boat which was being used by one of our members on Sunday - sorry about the quality of the picture - as I had to blow it up from another photo. I thought it may give you an idea as I am sure it uses a 500 motor as a drive and its got two smaller 400 motors, I believe, driving smaller props either side of the model rather than the bow thrusters. It also has two arms on the front to capture the stricken model. Its about 18 inches to 2 foot long and if he brings it down this Sunday, I will try and get more detailed photographs of it if you wish. I may have all the details wrong, as I haven't had much time to look at the model - it belongs to Terry from the Club, anyway. :-)+

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    ๐Ÿ“ Look for a simple balsa build
    3 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    hi there
    this is a build from Dodgy Geezers website - I did this a few year ago - its the fireboat obviously - I have yet to sail this. Its been bath tested but not tested on the lake.

    While we are on discussing about inaccuracy in plans I think it must be borne in mind that its part of the modeller's skill to learn. To take a plan as a basic thing and work from that at adjusting the measurements & etc all the time.

    There are very few plans that I have worked from where I can take direct measurements and transfer it to the material I am working on and knowing that they are going to be right. Even, to the plans we can get from the National Museums.

    I know this isn't a good help to the beginner, but, like everything else in life - we must learn from mistakes and we do all make mistakes no matter how good we are.

    If you notice there is a mistake on the bow and I am sure Dodgy will notice it straight away - as I made a mistake on the bow of the model.

    That's life :-) John
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    ๐Ÿ“ boston
    3 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Well, what a lovely day it is today and here is a pic or two of my Boston which I built several years ago - I had to rebuild her recently that was due to the plasticard I used for the bulwarks had perished and when I picked the model up the plasticard bulwarks cracked and fell apart, so I have rebuilt with wood. Plastic was from the 1980s when I built the model.
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    ๐Ÿ“ Look for a simple balsa build
    3 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi there, Glynn Guest is a gent who does a lot of plans and articles in Model Boats Magazine - and - if you have a look at this month's issue (May 2019) you will see he has done a little RIB model - using an inexpensive waterjet unit. If you have a look at Sarik plans you will see there are a few of his designs that crop up and they are fairly simple.

    Another good idea is to look on EBAY for model boat mags for sale (make sure they have the plans included).

    The two models I have mentioned HMS Penelope and MTB are both designed by Glynn.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-MODEL-BOAT-PLAN-HMS-VULCAN-WW2-...
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-MODEL-BOAT-PLAN-VIVACE-MM-2104-PATROL-LAUNCH-FOR-NDQ-WATER-JET-ORIGINAL/153340585748?hash=item23b3cfa714:g:pM8AAOSwz71ZPpm9

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    ๐Ÿ“ Look for a simple balsa build
    3 months ago by JOHN ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi there, have you thought about a Glyn Guest build as he does a lot of free plans in Model Boats magazine and if you cant get them from model boats mag - Sarik hobbies sell the plans - and have a good list to choose from. If you have a look at my harbour - you will see an MTB made from balsa wood which I made from his plan.plus warships aswell
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