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    Geoff L.
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    Just turned 79, Have been sailing Model Boats since about 1980, Founded Woodbridge Model Boat Club in 1982.
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    HAKITS MORSTON
    The finished result of my building blog, an HAKITS Morston, a fishing boat design and this model based on a Sea Angling boat sailing out of Whitby. Yet to be sailed. Geoff
    Small Scratch Built Yacht
    Again a 1980's picture at Woodbridge, this time a scratch built small yacht from a free plan. Fixed sails, rudder only
    Solarcraft Dolphin
    Picture here of a Solarcraft Dolphin I was sailing on the pond at Woodbridge during the 1980's
    Aeronaut DIVA
    A recently completed project during lockdown. A super kit to build from Aeronaut, with accurate laser cutting mahogany double sided ply for upper hull and superstructure. ample space for RC gear. Have yet to put in on the water due to current UK situation. Fitted MFA RE385 5 pole motor.
    Mantua Mincio
    My first model boat build for about 30 years. Mincio is all wood construction with balsa planked on frames and clad with mahogany planking. a simple boat to build and sail. Very small motor 280, which drives small two bladed prop. Kit comes with motor, shaft and prop and rudder and all deck fittings. I use a small pond so the size is ideal and looks good on the water, not swift but goes well. small rubber band drive between motor and prop shaft. I change the band on each sailing as I have experienced transmission failure mid pond on one occasion!
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Durch Auxiliary
    3 hours ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Hello Nerys, try Howes as below, they have a series of winches, in vaying turns at Β£9.99

    Geoff

    https://howesmodels.co.uk/product/2-turn-standard-size-drum-...
    https://howesmodels.co.uk/product/2-turn-standard-size-drum-winch/
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Durch Auxiliary
    15 hours ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Thank you Nerys for your compliments. Yes I will be adding ballast to the keel, but am not certain as to how much. The plan shows a waterline so think I will ballast it temporarily inside and then transfer the weight to the foot of the fin. There will be a certain amount of weight within the hull, mainly the battery, a 6v Nimh which will be placed at the very bottom of the hull. There is a full size sail winch as well, a bit of an overkill for a boat of this size, but cheap at 9.99 and runs just the right amount of sheeting out.
    Best wishes, Geoff.
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    πŸ“ Durch Auxiliary
    2 days ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Hello Again,
    A little while since I let you catch up with progress on the Dutch Auxiliary Yacht, and I have been involved in adding the mahogany planking to the sides and a solid mahogany transom. The latter task was a bit tricky but was able to use clamps and rubber bands to help the glue bond.
    The planking was 5mm x 0.8 mm over the existing .8mm ply side. This went quite well and was only the second bit of planking I had done, so was reasonably pleased with the result.
    At this point I must say how much encouragement and how many constructive ideas I have received from Nerys. Her encouragement has been in the form of making my Dutch yacht have a Dutch look to it and has advised that I make leeboards for the boat which I have done, (not operational) and through experience she has advised that I deepen the rudder so that is more effective, so a second deeper rudder has been made.
    All this has made me search for images of Dutch boats on the Net and I am amazed at how many different designs and variations there are to look at and follow. Leeboard shapes and design are legion, so I have opted for what seems to be a suitable design for my boat. I am hopeful that with this wide variety available I will be able to evade criticism of things, β€˜not being right’. The leeboards will have brightly painted head and foot, which seems to be the thing.
    Work has gone on well beyond what I am showing here and so my next blog will follow relatively soon, I hope. The final picture shows paper mock-up of the sails with other bits just taped in place and it is beginning to look like the picture on the packet! (Had there been one).
    Some of the delay has been as a result of the Woodbridge Model Boat Club reconvening and so have been sailing instead of building, which has been good.
    Thanks for your continued interest.

    Geoff
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Hull shaping, cloth and resin, oh and a stand….
    10 days ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    I find Rustins Outdoor Clear Varnish very good, dries in 30 minutes, can be thinned with water if required and brush wash up with water.

    Geoff
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    πŸ’¬ Re: DUTCH AUXILIARY
    23 days ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Thank you for this comment Nerys, I have been wondering whether to bother with the leeboards but your lovely gentle persuasion has made me come to the conclusion that they must be added. Have already looked out some nice hardwood for them. "Were you ever a used car salesperson?!!!!!
    Best wishes
    Geoff.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Prepping and Painting the Hull.
    24 days ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Martin, Thanks for this, Nice finish for this wooden hull.

    Geoff
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    πŸ“ DUTCH AUXILIARY
    26 days ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Slowly making progress
    It seems as I have not posted an update for nearly three weeks, so my apologies for being a bit lax. Nevertheless, I have not been slacking, it just seems that the tasks I have completed since last blog have been time consuming, and have not produced much of photographic interest.

    The deck has been planked with 5mm wide planks and these have been sourced from slats from a discarded wooden blind, the finished stripped from its surfaces by belt sander, then fine sanded and cut into 5mm strips on the Proxxon circular saw.

    The planks were butted edge to edge and stuck to the frames with Evo Stik waterproof glue, planking over the apertures for the forward hatch and mast box, leaving me to rediscover them later. Planking was taken as far as the rear of the cabin and then the rear section completed, by using the slats at full width, but scored at 5mm intervals to simulate planks.

    As this wood is quite white I have just varnished it with Sikkens outdoor varnish, which is clear and water based and brushes are cleaned in water. Don’t like spirit cleaners these days.

    A mahogany cover has been made for the forward hatch and has to be detachable for access to the Rx.

    Following this work the floor boards were made for rear well and were built in three sections, two at the fore, either side of the engine, and one into the rest of the well to the transom. The boards, as used for the deck, were laid on .8mm ply to make life easy and to keep the shape.
    The seating and back rests were glued to the formers and again using the wood from the slats but this time, stained as antique pine to match the boarding at the rear of the cabin. This will be varnished as above.

    Finally the β€˜engine cover’ has been built and finished with the stain to match. The top of the propshaft, with a rotating collet, is not fully covered and may present some health and safety issues, but people will just have to be careful!!

    That just about brings me up to date now but would like to leave this gem with you.

    From, β€˜Build Yourself a Model Boat’, published in 1950. ---'In these days of motor cars and wireless sets, most men can solder.’ We still have the motor car and wireless sets, but can most men still solder?

    Geoff.
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    26 days ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Doug, Sir, Fleet Admiral, With the greatest respect this old codger is some ten years older than yourself, but I know what you mean!!!!!!!

    Regards
    Geoff.
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    26 days ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Hello To Martin, and others who serve us on this site.
    Thank you for all you do, but I don't think many of us realise who much time you put in to dealing with what needs to be done. But I don't feel that you should spend too much time doing research for people, if they have a computer to send a question, then, in my view, they have the means to find the answer for themselves. Surely this is part of our hobby searching for information or data, and of course some questions I have seen are just, asking a question for the sake of it. We see them in all hobbies. Please make time for yourselves, we want you to do that.

    Regards,

    Geoff.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Aeronaut Diva Kit
    27 days ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Love it Robert, nice build and finish, looking good.
    Glad you are getting on with the kit, it is a joy to build isn't it?

    Regards

    Geoff.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Aft Well Deck
    30 days ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Super job Martin, Inspirational.

    Regards

    Geoff
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    πŸ’¬ Re: The Main Deck.
    1 month ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Good job here Martin, some thoughts and inspiration for me on my next build. Looks like your friend could finish up with a super model.
    Regards Geoff.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Aeronaut Diva Kit
    1 month ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    So far so good, Robert, You will find it should it all progress as per plan as they say.

    Best Regards

    Geoff
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Aeronaut Diva Cabin Cruiser kit
    1 month ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Robert, Thanks for enquiry, for this kit I used Gorilla wood glue and this is what I always use now. It is relatively thick, but is good to use. Otherwise in places where you may feel something a bit thinner is more suitable then evo stik waterproof is a good alternative. For the speed controller I used a car model from Arrow models this works very well but would recommend an Mtronics Viper Marine 10, currently discounted by Howes models from Β£27.99 to Β£20.99. I am using a 7.2v Mn 2000 which I never manage to exhaust in a sailing session. If you purchase an MFA motor and it comes with a fixing, this will not be needed ads the appropriate bulkhead is already drilled for the motor to be fitted directly to and and is in line with the propshaft. The motor, shaft and esc can all be obtained from Howes and a battery as well. I always use Overlander batteries and these are available from Howes too. Obviously choose a shaft at the same length as the kit item.
    The prop in the kit is minute so try to get a prop of similar dimensions with a 4mm boss.

    Best regards

    Geoff.

    PS. Decant some of the glue into a small pot, rather than struggle to get it out of the bottle each time and apply with a small brush. Store the brush in a jar of water so that it is always ready to use after a quick wipe to get rid of the water. See my Morston Blog on for a full description of the method I use.

    https://howesmodels.co.uk/product/mtroniks-microviper-marine...
    https://howesmodels.co.uk/product/mtroniks-microviper-marine-10-boat-esc-electric-speed-controller/
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Aeronaut Diva Cabin Cruiser kit
    1 month ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Hello Robert, I built an Aeronaut Diva last spring as my second boat in Lockdown. It was a joy to build and a pleasure to sail. I would suggest that you upgrade the kit propshaft by using a 4mm shaft instead of the one supplied in the kit which is flimsy and if used with a decent motor vibrates a lot at middle speed. If you fit an MFA 385 she will plane quite easily. If you want a more sedate model then a standard 400 will do. I found the windows a bit tricky and for best effect use a good canopy glue. (I found out too late!) See mine in my harbour.
    Best wishes and follow the instruction book and you should finish with a nice model.

    Geoff Lambert
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Dutch Auxilliary
    1 month ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Thanks for these suggestions Nerys. I might like to try her on the water first, nevertheless thank you for your continued interest. Would the leeboards need to be operational or just to enhance the look of the thing.

    Best wishes

    Geoff.
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    1 month ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    The more I proceed with this project of scratch building the more I realise that I have to make my own way through the build without a nicely illustrated Handbook.

    But it does give the chance to switch from one part of the build to another. The cabin has now been built, top planked and varnished and two doors made. I think I may only have room for one door in the cockpit due to having to enclose the 'engine'.

    As far as the hull is concerned I have added the two top side sections, sanded and shaped all smooth. The bow blocks have been added, and similarly carved to shape. The whole hull has been given a coat of eze kote.
    In the meanwhile I have been making one or two of the fittings for future use.
    As I go through this hull building, I wish I could have had some sort of jig on which to build the skeleton of the hull, but it has curvature on the deck and so a flat jig would have taken some time to construct. But some distortions have crept in due to having to build the hull 'in mid air'. I will do my best to disguise these as I go along.

    The cockpit panelling at the front has been added also. I have included a mock up pic to give a little idea of what the craft will look like.

    The build goes on.

    Geoff
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Back on the Hull
    1 month ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Can highly recommend the HA kits Nerys.

    Geoff
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    1 month ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Martin, I am glad to see the legend of the Digifleet servo on your rudder. I bought a Digifleet set in 1982 for sailing yachts at Woodbridge. Two or three other members bought similar sets at the same time. Almost to a day the batteries failed in each set after ten years.
    Glad to see the progress you are making and it all looks good, wood is a wonderful medium isn't it.!

    Best regards
    Geoff.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Dutch Auxilliary
    2 months ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Have had many years of experience in fitting wing spars into wing ribs slots on model aircraft!
    Geoff
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    2 months ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Thanks for this Ron, I have not yet decided how the cabin with mate with the deck, but the decking will pass around the sides of the cabin. I have decided to do this as, from the plan the cabin looks a bit tall for this type of craft, and so it will reduce the apparent height of this part of the boat. I intend to make two cabin doors that will be stuck to the rear of the cabin and will extend into the footwell. However must not give to much of the story away just yet! Best regards
    Geoff.
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    2 months ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    A Step Further.
    Having decided to build the cabin as a detachable unit rather than build to the hull, it gave me a chance for a bit of light relief from the hull building.

    So setting about the cabin I drew the outline of the base and built the cabin much as I had done with many model aircraft, over the plan, This worked well and the unit comprised four sides and three roof cross bars. The pic shows this built to this stage. Portholes had been cut into front and two sides. These will be copper washers stuck onto a an acetate β€˜window’ and then this stuck over the drilled holes in the sides. To complete the cabin it will be roofed with .8mm ply and then this planked with mahogany veneer.
    Back to the hull, the bottom planking has now been sanded smooth and the .8mm ply sides added, as far forward as former 1. The triangular void at the bow will be filled with balsa block.
    Sub frames for the deck bow section have been filled with 3mm ply to receive screws for bowsprit fixings and ply apertures to support the deck planks around the forward hatch and the mast box. (Please excuse wide angle lens distortion on last pic.) More soon

    Geoff
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    πŸ’¬ Re: HULL (Part 1) (Above the Base deck.)
    2 months ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Thanks Martin, absolute sense, thank you.
    Geoff.
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    2 months ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Steady on Martin, I have found with Ha Kits that it is best to fit all that you want to fit before you add the side skins, That is Rudder and servo, prop shaft and battery placement etc. These kits go together well and don't overlook, in your blog, that novice members may be wanting a straightforward build to follow on what the manufacturers acknowledge is a beginners kit and upwards. Otherwise they lend themselves to personalisation in a good way.
    Best regards,

    Geoff.
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    2 months ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Thanks Ron for your response. The motor will be controlled from channel 2 on the receiver. (Mode2)
    This is the right hand stick with channel 1 controlling the rudder. with the stick at neutral position, right and left will control the rudder and up stick will control motor forward, proportionally, and down stick reverse, proportionally. I am used to flying model aircraft so am familiar with controlling two functions from the one stick. The left stick will control the sail winch, from full out to full in.
    I have sailed full size dinghys, and model racing yachts so am familiar with rudder tricks.
    I hope I have not offended your idea of realism, but am not concerned with what happens in real life, I am finding this an interesting model to build and looking forward to sailing this when the times comes as a little boat of fascination.
    Best wishes Geoff.
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    2 months ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Thanks for the thought Martin, and an O ring would probably be more durable, but might induce more stress on the motor and shaft bearings. I have never had a band shed on my Mincio although they tend to be not very durable, but I bought a 400 pack last year when I finished the Mincio and so still have a few left! Best wishes

    Geoff.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Dutch Auxiliary
    2 months ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Thanks for your interest Ron. The original model was planned to have a diesel, clockwork or electric motor and is indeed titled, Dutch Auxiliary, so I am building as suggested. Also it engages my planning and thinking in producing a model yacht with auxiliary power. As another consideration, my local pond at Woodbridge is surrounded by trees on all sides at varying distances and this gives very fickle winds so an additional escape will be useful.
    Hopes this explains,
    Best wishes Geoff.
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    2 months ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Moving On
    With all the bulkheads firmly attached to the keel the upper and lower stringers were attached.

    This is a flat bottomed hull and I have decided to plank this directly onto the frames. I have acquired some old slats from a wooden blind which have given me the material to create planks for the bottom of the hull. They have a finish on them which has been removed by belt sander on the side to be glued, and they have been affixed to the frames to form a very solid hull bottom. I have a feeling that this model is going to be something of an apprentices exam piece as I am using a few different techniques in the hull construction. The sides will be .8mm ply with mahogany veneer thickness planking and the bow section is balsa blocks. The deck will be planked with the same material as the hull bottom.

    With bottom successfully planked the next building step would be to add the ply sides, but before I do this want to make sure that the gear will fit into the hull satisfactorily.
    For the motor I have chosen a small 280 motor with a short shaft which is sold as replacement for the power units in the Crocodile Heads. From Banggood these were minimal cost and a suitable prop was bought from the same source, as was the 10 amp ESC.

    I wanted to mount the motor as neatly in the boat as possible and have opted for it to be in the well area and be covered with a mahogany casing. I have opted for a rubber band drive which works well in my Mantua Mincio, and allows the motor to be mounted below the shaft. Using an 8mm pulley on the motor and 12mm on the shaft, giving a 1.5 reduction.

    I considered various winching arrangements such as a standard servo with an extended arm which would give only a short travel for the main boom. A standard arm winch would not have sufficient room within the hull to move. Finally I have purchased a two turn standard servo size winch from Howes models for Β£9.99 which will give me adequate control over the main boom. It will be mounted at deck level with the winch drum inside the cabin. This allows the battery, a 1600 5 cell Mnih to sit under the winch in the bottom of the hull. This can stay in place and be charged as required.
    The Rx will be mounted on the first bulkhead by Velcro and will be accessed by a hatch in the deck, The ESC will be between bulkheads 2 and 3.

    A mini servo will be fixed to the transom for the rudder control. See all pics.
    I have loosely rigged this all up and it works quite satisfactorily.
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    2 months ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Glad to hear this Martin and glad your friend has chosen an HAKits for you to build, as you know I am a great advocate of these kits.
    I am sure you will find this all very much to your liking and will give you a good basis for you to rediscover your woodworking skills.
    |Best wishes
    Geoff.
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    πŸ“ A problem of weight
    2 months ago by mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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    Those that are following my blog on building the Dutch Auxiliary will know that I am working from a rather sketchy plan from 1952. When it comes to the amount of keel weight required the plan gives no indication as to what it should be. lbs/kg Perhaps someone could give me a sensible starting point for the hull which is 16 inches by 7 max beam (410x 189mm) All answers on a postcard or here on the site. Many thanks Geoff.
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