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Hello Colin, Very sorry to hear about your sad loss, condolences to all family..
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📝 Sealing Balsa & Ply
10 months ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Sorry.. There is a PS to my last Post..
After applying the tissue and dope, you will have to apply another 3 coats of the 50/50 Dope/Thinners concoction, and of course rubbing down between coats, just to give the new applied coat a "key".. Once completed , a paint of your choice can be applied, I tend to use Acrilic paint from Halfords, starting with a couple of coats of Grey primer, rubbing down between all coats, then apply colours of your coice, if more than one coat is required, dont forget to rub it down for next coat to have a key..
ATB Muddy..
After applying the tissue and dope, you will have to apply another 3 coats of the 50/50 Dope/Thinners concoction, and of course rubbing down between coats, just to give the new applied coat a "key".. Once completed , a paint of your choice can be applied, I tend to use Acrilic paint from Halfords, starting with a couple of coats of Grey primer, rubbing down between all coats, then apply colours of your coice, if more than one coat is required, dont forget to rub it down for next coat to have a key..
ATB Muddy..
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📝 Sealing Balsa & Ply
10 months ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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HEllo... Sealing Balsa wood or Ply..
Balsa I have always given the wood about 6 coats of Cellulose Dope but thinned 50/50 with Cellulose Thinners available from most car Paint supplies/Motor Factors, The Thinners is not cheap. That is for sealing Balsa, but to help strengthen the Balsa Use about 3 coats of 50/50 dope /thinners, then apply some Medium grade Tissue Paper as was/is used by aero modelers.
Place the Tissue on the pre-treated wood and paint over and into the tissue , just like hanging wallpaper, Dont have any "Cut" joints, tear the paper to size, the teared joints will be near to invisable apon completion of the dopeing process..
Good luck, and dont forget a mask, the thinners and Dope can be very strong in the odure range. Do it outside or in a drafty place..
ATB Muddy..
Balsa I have always given the wood about 6 coats of Cellulose Dope but thinned 50/50 with Cellulose Thinners available from most car Paint supplies/Motor Factors, The Thinners is not cheap. That is for sealing Balsa, but to help strengthen the Balsa Use about 3 coats of 50/50 dope /thinners, then apply some Medium grade Tissue Paper as was/is used by aero modelers.
Place the Tissue on the pre-treated wood and paint over and into the tissue , just like hanging wallpaper, Dont have any "Cut" joints, tear the paper to size, the teared joints will be near to invisable apon completion of the dopeing process..
Good luck, and dont forget a mask, the thinners and Dope can be very strong in the odure range. Do it outside or in a drafty place..
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📝 Plank Race
1 year ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Hello Roger... It's great to see some local news.. lol
Straight runners, without a body shell..
But what a laugh..
This is a great place for news and knowledge/information..
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Straight runners, without a body shell..
But what a laugh..
This is a great place for news and knowledge/information..
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📝 Very sad news Martin555
2 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Very sad news indeed.
Our thoughts are with the family at this sad time.
Always a helping comment and encouragement ..
Will be missed.
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Our thoughts are with the family at this sad time.
Always a helping comment and encouragement ..
Will be missed.
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📝 Lipo battery meter/checker
2 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Been using this type of unit for a few years now, no complaints. Very Good.
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💬 Re: PT-109 first scratch build
2 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Nice one.. What size is it ?
Length and Beam ?
Tnx Muddy..
Length and Beam ?
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💬 Re: Long Range Air Sea Rescue
2 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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.. Brilliant.. Congratulations to ALL involved.. Regards Muddy.
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📝 My Susan
3 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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My Susan, a Model Boats Plan No: MM925. of an Inshore trawler.
Originally shown built in balsa, this one is built in 6mm ply for keel and bulkheads with Lime planking 6mm x 3mm. Upper works mainly 1.5mm ply and veneer. Deck fittings as in Winch and A frame built from Plasticard. The drive unit is a MFA Gear boxed unit approx. 2.5 : 1. Electroniz speed control unit and a standard Futaba servo for steering. Using 2.4 Ghz: Radio, Futaba.
It looks the part of a Trawler but also useful as a rescue boat, has some Tug Boat tendencies, slow and manoeuvrable, easily transported and does not take up to much space. Either in workshop or floor well of a car.
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Originally shown built in balsa, this one is built in 6mm ply for keel and bulkheads with Lime planking 6mm x 3mm. Upper works mainly 1.5mm ply and veneer. Deck fittings as in Winch and A frame built from Plasticard. The drive unit is a MFA Gear boxed unit approx. 2.5 : 1. Electroniz speed control unit and a standard Futaba servo for steering. Using 2.4 Ghz: Radio, Futaba.
It looks the part of a Trawler but also useful as a rescue boat, has some Tug Boat tendencies, slow and manoeuvrable, easily transported and does not take up to much space. Either in workshop or floor well of a car.
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📝 My Susan Upperworks and fiddly bits
3 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Having now being pleased with the fishing boats performance, time has come to try and make it look like a working boat, this is not a scale boat just a standoff scale, so as when one looks at it , one knows what type of vessel it is, hopefully.
It will need some sort of winch and a net hoisting frame.
Started with a hoisting frame and made up a jig for some sort of angles for realistic appearance.
Some hatchways and a winch motor bed/frame.. Most of these items were made from Plasticard and Packets of round and rectangular section. It makes for a quick end resault if a Cyno type glue is used. Not sure about the Companion ways/Hatch ways.. Not forgetting the engine exhaust pipe ..lol..
The Bollards were made from 6mm hardwood/Spruce doweling ..
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It will need some sort of winch and a net hoisting frame.
Started with a hoisting frame and made up a jig for some sort of angles for realistic appearance.
Some hatchways and a winch motor bed/frame.. Most of these items were made from Plasticard and Packets of round and rectangular section. It makes for a quick end resault if a Cyno type glue is used. Not sure about the Companion ways/Hatch ways.. Not forgetting the engine exhaust pipe ..lol..
The Bollards were made from 6mm hardwood/Spruce doweling ..
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📝 My Susan Paint and float tests
3 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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The last of the masking-up and hull painting.. The power plant or drive motor, was originally going to be a 385 size type of motor, one of the expensive ones from Howes, ( lol ) at £3-£5 each, i really like these little motors as they have such a voltage range 3-18 volts I Believe, thinking about the hull shape Bilge style and its bulk, i changed my mind and opted for a 380 size motor with a gearbox, hoping to keep the voltage down but have plenty of torque at the prop. Next was a float test, and not permitted in the bathroom after a "mishap" with a previous boat. Found an old hull, which i think was a Waterwitch, and would fit the bill perfectly in size for a float test, some funny looks from a pal who came to call, and noted that the water shud be on the outside, but this bulky hull was acting as a good water tank..
First sea trials with a 35mm 3 blade prop were a joke, in actual fact it performed like the real thing, about half throttle was applied and there was some turbulence at the transom and the boat just sat there for a second or two, then started to make way, very slowly, full throttle was applied and i just sat back and laughed, an immediate return to pond side harbour and a prop change, the biggest i had in the box, the difference was most appealing..
First sea trials with a 35mm 3 blade prop were a joke, in actual fact it performed like the real thing, about half throttle was applied and there was some turbulence at the transom and the boat just sat there for a second or two, then started to make way, very slowly, full throttle was applied and i just sat back and laughed, an immediate return to pond side harbour and a prop change, the biggest i had in the box, the difference was most appealing..
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📝 My Susan Painting
3 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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After most of the Build was finished, time for some paint.
As this is a wood build, most items received about 6 coats of 50/50 cellulose dope and thinners, lightly sanding between each coat. The first job was to paint he insides of the Bulwarks and associated deck bits, decided to do this in Humbrol enamel, as it would be easier to touch up after other operations..
I found a Satin spray which is ideal for this job, it can always be glossed up, or dulled down with a matt version. Tend to use cling film on fiddly jobs like this as it has a type of adhesion, maybe just static, but once placed , stays put, if the surface is dust free.
Next job was the hull painting.
Lots of masking up, and trying to find some paint, came across some spray paint from Wilko, not a great choice in colours, but all the basic's were there and cheaper than any other at the time. The Wilko spay paint went well, a bit thicker than others but this is what i wanted for this boat's hull. Rubdowns and resprays were aplenty. The upperworks was painted by hand with Humbrol Enamel, some NOS, more old than new, it took some time to mix up.. lol.
As this is a wood build, most items received about 6 coats of 50/50 cellulose dope and thinners, lightly sanding between each coat. The first job was to paint he insides of the Bulwarks and associated deck bits, decided to do this in Humbrol enamel, as it would be easier to touch up after other operations..
I found a Satin spray which is ideal for this job, it can always be glossed up, or dulled down with a matt version. Tend to use cling film on fiddly jobs like this as it has a type of adhesion, maybe just static, but once placed , stays put, if the surface is dust free.
Next job was the hull painting.
Lots of masking up, and trying to find some paint, came across some spray paint from Wilko, not a great choice in colours, but all the basic's were there and cheaper than any other at the time. The Wilko spay paint went well, a bit thicker than others but this is what i wanted for this boat's hull. Rubdowns and resprays were aplenty. The upperworks was painted by hand with Humbrol Enamel, some NOS, more old than new, it took some time to mix up.. lol.
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📝 My Susan
3 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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After a HORRIBLE couple of years and not finding the time to indulge into the website or the workshop, I finaly managed to finish the Fishing Trawler My Susan, in finish I mean she hit the water for sea trials. There will be many I hope bits and bob's to make and fit, transforming her into a lookalike working boat, without going over the top.. If there are any double-ups of pics I apoligise.
As I mentioned in the past most of these build pics were rescued from a crashed pc. So I,m trying to pick up the tail of build in pics from this blog, which does not look correct to me, must have suffered a major touch of finger blight and posted these/this build onto the Gwen Eagle blog, so this could get exciting trying to follow either of the blogs, again i apoligise for this "foo-parr".. Think this where i left off..
Dont forget the boat stand, an ideal time whilst in unpainted and " rough " state of the build.
As I mentioned in the past most of these build pics were rescued from a crashed pc. So I,m trying to pick up the tail of build in pics from this blog, which does not look correct to me, must have suffered a major touch of finger blight and posted these/this build onto the Gwen Eagle blog, so this could get exciting trying to follow either of the blogs, again i apoligise for this "foo-parr".. Think this where i left off..
Dont forget the boat stand, an ideal time whilst in unpainted and " rough " state of the build.
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💬 Re: Lorraine 2
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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OK Martin555, yes absolutely, even after one has taken the trouble to align the propshafts/couplings/motor, when the side skins/planks are fitted there is always a little discrepancy on the true alignment, so i just pop the small mirror down the side of the motor and all is revealed even from the keel up.. Mind i did borrow one once from the shipyard manager without her permission, and had to hide away for a while.. lol.. Keep smiling keep safe.. Muddy ..
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💬 Re: Lorraine 2
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Newby7, Thank you Rick, steady down, cos there are modifications to the windows..
My other secret trick is to view the the state of play in a mirror, looking from a different aspect can sometimes show up to many faults or ugly's.. so i don't participate with this method very often..
Stay well and Safe .. Muddy ..
My other secret trick is to view the the state of play in a mirror, looking from a different aspect can sometimes show up to many faults or ugly's.. so i don't participate with this method very often..
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💬 Re: Lorraine 2
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Thank you.. stay safe .. Muddy ..
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💬 Re: Lorraine 2
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Many Thanks..
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💬 Re: Lorraine 2
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Hello Pete, The plywood used, I,m not sure, but i think your correct, Birch Ply.
Its the bog standard stuff that one purchases from a Model emporium, when new its an off shade of white in colour.
Hope this helps.. Muddy..
Its the bog standard stuff that one purchases from a Model emporium, when new its an off shade of white in colour.
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💬 Re: Lorraine 2
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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JB ... Many Thanks.. Have already made pencil marks on the wheelhouse, so maybe a modification is imminent.. ! lol..
Stay Safe.. Muddy..
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📝 Lorraine 2
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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After a long lay-off, mainly due to lack of materials, the stores were empty. Compromises were made and alternative materials used, maybe not a good idea, but trying to keep the production line of a sawdust factory has its demands. Continuing on with the cabin and superstructure, again materials choice or should i say alternative choice had to be employed, using 1.5mm and .8mm plywood, 1.5mm for the sides and the .8mm for the roof/cabin tops.. It was and still is a build as you go, not a good idea, but at the time a brilliant one, thinking about speed of build etc: hmmm ! ..
Basic frame work applied as and when to support the roofs and the sides, in 1/4 x 1/8" and 3/8 x 1/4" Obechie strip.. Adding the rear and front "windscreens", with the oval shaped apertures, I don't like em' .. So they may be hacked about to make it look more presentable, it all depends on "how close to water" we get .. lol ..
Stay safe .. Muddy..
Basic frame work applied as and when to support the roofs and the sides, in 1/4 x 1/8" and 3/8 x 1/4" Obechie strip.. Adding the rear and front "windscreens", with the oval shaped apertures, I don't like em' .. So they may be hacked about to make it look more presentable, it all depends on "how close to water" we get .. lol ..
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💬 Re: Lorraine 2
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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OK Ian, Steam Yacht in this weather, you deserve a medal .. lol...
Yes i think its all in hand, we are fortunate that water is 30 seconds away from car boot on a tarmac road, it gets better, but i dont want to rub it in .. lol..
But what some glorious weather, it will all disappear soon when the lockdown finishes, ok, ok i,m ducking..!
Thanks for reminding me, Trollys in the pipelins so to speak..
Keep smiling and stay safe .. Muddy ..
Yes i think its all in hand, we are fortunate that water is 30 seconds away from car boot on a tarmac road, it gets better, but i dont want to rub it in .. lol..
But what some glorious weather, it will all disappear soon when the lockdown finishes, ok, ok i,m ducking..!
Thanks for reminding me, Trollys in the pipelins so to speak..
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📝 Lorraine 2
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Cabin/Upperworks, The outline of the cabin is to the drawing, but not in the construction, decided that the need for a lighter cabin would be advantagous to a person of my old age, silver surfer and all that. Did find a pic of the finished model with a stated weight of 45 lbs:, there's no dought about it, this model is built like a/the perverbial brick loo..
The sides were marked out by measurment, and placed for the first impressions, and dry fit. Next was to mark out the cabin formers to make up a basic inner framework, i,m very tempted to use Balsa wood, but will stay with ply and Obechi for a while, when the going gets tough, i change to Balsa ! ! Just to give some idea of the size of this creation, there is a pic of the Speranza and Lorraine 2 side by side, i did take the oppertunity of trimming the planks on Speranza whilst i was waiting for some glue to dry.
Stay Safe.. Muddy ..
The sides were marked out by measurment, and placed for the first impressions, and dry fit. Next was to mark out the cabin formers to make up a basic inner framework, i,m very tempted to use Balsa wood, but will stay with ply and Obechi for a while, when the going gets tough, i change to Balsa ! ! Just to give some idea of the size of this creation, there is a pic of the Speranza and Lorraine 2 side by side, i did take the oppertunity of trimming the planks on Speranza whilst i was waiting for some glue to dry.
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💬 Re: Lorraine 2
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Just started the Upperworks, and can "Sus" out the final appearance..
Hopefully the effort will be worth it..
Stay Safe .. Muddy ..
Hopefully the effort will be worth it..
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Thank you, that is one person i would have liked to meet..
Stay safe .. Muddy..
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📝 Lorraine 2
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Lower deck planking, after all the pins were fitted, it was noticed that the planks had twisted urghh ! !.. They needed to be trimmed up, but with brass pins embeded the small plane dunna like this sort'a thing, Removed the pins and set about the planing up of the planks untill it was somewhere near respectable. At this stage it was time for another rub down with sandpaper and a new coat of dope/thinners applied. The "caulking" was removed with a 1" carpenters wood chiesel being run along , gently, the plank surface. This is when you hope enough glue was applied to hold the caulking in situ..
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Thank you Bill..
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Thanks Martin, yes things are begining to look something like ! I hope..
Stay safe Muddy..
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4 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Thanks Ian.. Think there was a pic of the shed temp at 10 degs C.. now that is ideal to potter about in lol.. but once the 20 c mark is reached, its time for a slurp and a siesta..
I,m looking forward to tackling the lowered deck planking tomorrow, ( Ohh yeah )
keep safe and smiling.. Muddy ..
I,m looking forward to tackling the lowered deck planking tomorrow, ( Ohh yeah )
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📝 Lorraine 2
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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The one thing that i forgot to mention is the fact that 5mm x 2mm Lime planks do not like to be pinned down with .7mm x 100 brass pins, the timber splits every time, usually with the bradawl, and it is a fine one. Answer, was simple to pin drill each pin hole, I wont dwell on this to long as i can feel the steam rising as i speak, it was a very laborous task. Then started to have a clean up of all surfaces hull sides , bottom skins and foredeck, ready for a thinned coat of dope. 25% thinners to 75% dope.. All surfaces were covered except the stepped deck, hoping to seal the timber whilst the model is being manipulated around on the bench. Also placed with a cyno type glue a small vertical veneer on the upright seperating the two decks, ready for a quick rub down and another coat of dope/thinners..
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📝 Lorraine 2
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 muddy ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Continueing on with the Fore Deck planking, nearly ready for sanding.
Attempts to gain access to the bow and front end of the hull, were not adequate with just the Opening in the fore deck, and was proving difficult trying to access from the motor bay, not enough room between the mounting and the deck former. Started to remove the bulkhead by pin drilling acrosss the width of the beam, then with a small drum sander clean up the raged edges and finally some sandpaper when more accessible.
Stay Safe Muddy ..
Attempts to gain access to the bow and front end of the hull, were not adequate with just the Opening in the fore deck, and was proving difficult trying to access from the motor bay, not enough room between the mounting and the deck former. Started to remove the bulkhead by pin drilling acrosss the width of the beam, then with a small drum sander clean up the raged edges and finally some sandpaper when more accessible.
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