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    (Pleasure Craft) Tarpon
    Tarpon, Built from Model Boat Plans, Plywood Keel with Obechie planks 6 x 3 mm, upperworks/cabin balsa frame and .8mm plywood sides. All decks are planked, approx 6mm x 3mm a white wood, with .5mm Mahogony "Cauking".. Open planks and wood were varnished , paint is Wilko Enamel spray Gloss with spray undercoat. Happy sailing. Muddy.... (Motor: 777) (ESC: Electronize) (8/10)
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    Pilot Boat from Model Boat Plans by Vic Smeed. Very nice small launch, although it originally stated a single screw, i fitted twin screws. Ply keel and bulkheads, plank on frame Obechi 6x3mm . Ply upperworks, Plough's along , enjoyable sailer. (Motor: 380) (ESC: Howes special) (5/10)
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    Miami 24 a scale-up version of the Miami 32 from Model boat Plans by GG. Keel and deck were increased to 1/2" balsa, but retained the 1/8th sides and base skins, average performance, but looked good in the black and yellow livery. (Motor: 777) (ESC: Electronize) (5/10)
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    1 month ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    OK Ian, Steam Yacht in this weather, you deserve a medal .. lol...
    Yes i think its all in hand, we are fortunate that water is 30 seconds away from car boot on a tarmac road, it gets better, but i dont want to rub it in .. lol..
    But what some glorious weather, it will all disappear soon when the lockdown finishes, ok, ok i,m ducking..!
    Thanks for reminding me, Trollys in the pipelins so to speak..

    Keep smiling and stay safe .. Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ“ Lorraine 2
    1 month ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Cabin/Upperworks, The outline of the cabin is to the drawing, but not in the construction, decided that the need for a lighter cabin would be advantagous to a person of my old age, silver surfer and all that. Did find a pic of the finished model with a stated weight of 45 lbs:, there's no dought about it, this model is built like a/the perverbial brick loo..
    The sides were marked out by measurment, and placed for the first impressions, and dry fit. Next was to mark out the cabin formers to make up a basic inner framework, i,m very tempted to use Balsa wood, but will stay with ply and Obechi for a while, when the going gets tough, i change to Balsa ! ! Just to give some idea of the size of this creation, there is a pic of the Speranza and Lorraine 2 side by side, i did take the oppertunity of trimming the planks on Speranza whilst i was waiting for some glue to dry.
    Stay Safe.. Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lorraine 2
    1 month ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Just started the Upperworks, and can "Sus" out the final appearance..
    Hopefully the effort will be worth it..
    Stay Safe .. Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lorraine 2
    1 month ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Thank you, that is one person i would have liked to meet..
    Stay safe .. Muddy..
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    ๐Ÿ“ Lorraine 2
    1 month ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Lower deck planking, after all the pins were fitted, it was noticed that the planks had twisted urghh ! !.. They needed to be trimmed up, but with brass pins embeded the small plane dunna like this sort'a thing, Removed the pins and set about the planing up of the planks untill it was somewhere near respectable. At this stage it was time for another rub down with sandpaper and a new coat of dope/thinners applied. The "caulking" was removed with a 1" carpenters wood chiesel being run along , gently, the plank surface. This is when you hope enough glue was applied to hold the caulking in situ..
    Stay Safe Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Thank you Bill..
    Stay Safe.. Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Thanks Martin, yes things are begining to look something like ! I hope..
    Stay safe Muddy..
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Thanks Ian.. Think there was a pic of the shed temp at 10 degs C.. now that is ideal to potter about in lol.. but once the 20 c mark is reached, its time for a slurp and a siesta..
    I,m looking forward to tackling the lowered deck planking tomorrow, ( Ohh yeah )
    keep safe and smiling.. Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ“ Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    The one thing that i forgot to mention is the fact that 5mm x 2mm Lime planks do not like to be pinned down with .7mm x 100 brass pins, the timber splits every time, usually with the bradawl, and it is a fine one. Answer, was simple to pin drill each pin hole, I wont dwell on this to long as i can feel the steam rising as i speak, it was a very laborous task. Then started to have a clean up of all surfaces hull sides , bottom skins and foredeck, ready for a thinned coat of dope. 25% thinners to 75% dope.. All surfaces were covered except the stepped deck, hoping to seal the timber whilst the model is being manipulated around on the bench. Also placed with a cyno type glue a small vertical veneer on the upright seperating the two decks, ready for a quick rub down and another coat of dope/thinners..
    Stay Safe Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ“ Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Continueing on with the Fore Deck planking, nearly ready for sanding.
    Attempts to gain access to the bow and front end of the hull, were not adequate with just the Opening in the fore deck, and was proving difficult trying to access from the motor bay, not enough room between the mounting and the deck former. Started to remove the bulkhead by pin drilling acrosss the width of the beam, then with a small drum sander clean up the raged edges and finally some sandpaper when more accessible.
    Stay Safe Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ“ Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Didnt like the idea of a painted deck, so out came the planks, and some kind person did some shopping for me, so now armed with a fistfull of .7mm x 10mm Brass Pins, flat headed and some new planks 5mm x 3mm Lime, with some .25mm Mahogony for the caulking, anger management here we come.
    Keep Safe Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Hello Ygagnon, Thank you for the kindly comment. When you can read things like this, it tends to spure one on. I must say all these comments and " how to do what to whome" timber wise, may not always be the correct way, but its the way that i did/do things with the reouces that i have, and personal choices in tools and adhesives etc: and things have had to slow down because of material shortages.
    Some progress is being made but slowly now. Thanks again, Stay Safe.. Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Joe, I understand that the timber planking is Lime, i was also told it was good for hull planking as it is a very flexible wood ! as a scale plank.
    Muddy ..
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    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Thank you Skydive130, but as i mentioned to joe a little earlier, things are getting spartan here, down to last bits of wood and pins, but hoping to rectify that soon, thanks again Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ“ Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    With some .8mm ply for the foredeck, this was cut out roughly to shape, then placed and tacked, as to mark the Hatch from inside, the hatchway marked and cut out. Time to clean up the Bow, or Bumper Bar, Araldited and pinned a piece of Mahogony down the Stem, this was yesterday, so this morning it was all fixed and solid, ready for shaping, using a Stanley type Knife and a Small Carpenters Plane. Some P38 added along the way to hide the mistakes. On completion of the Bumper Bar, the for deck was ready for glueing and pinning, had to plan this out carefully as the pin situation was getting close to NON Existant, But with one pin left over, a spare if you like we wait for tomorrow and start up the Palm Sander..
    Stay safe Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Thank's Joe, but i,m a big beleiver in " a picture paints a thousand words .." or something like that.. But things are slowing up now, lack of materials, i,m running out of the "making bits".. Wood and Brass Pins, but hope to rectify this shortly, even down to my last pin this afternoon, things are getting serious... lol ..
    Keep smiling and keep safe
    Regards Muddy ..

    p.s. i aint forgot to find out about what wood i,m going to use ! lol ..
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Martin.. Thats cracked it.. Thank you..
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Hello Martin, evidently the copy and paste did work plus re-entering the pics.

    Now the burning question is, can this "other Lorraine 2" be deleted ? otherwise confusion will be prominent, especially from my end lol..
    Regards Muddy..
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    ๐Ÿ“ Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    The Pointy Bit, or Bow, but first the forward hold/battery bay, i could see a problem arrising with this Hold area, as to being able to access it, decided to cut a hatchway into the deck, bigger than shown on the plan, making access easier for batty removal etc: . Cut some new beams and made them knotchable' hoping to keep the deck strength. The side deck,s were fitted with skins, and the rear planking on the transom looked a bit ucky, this was covered with some 1.5mm ply. Made a start on shaping the bow blocks, should have stuck to the original idea of using Obechi, it would have been a lot easier. Inbetween the puffing and panting with a full size chippy's saw, started to mark out the upperworks, this is a complete revamp from the drawing, as the drawing is a very elaborate thing regarding the cabin's..
    Can only presume it was because of the stae of play when the radio gear / motors were a bit more dated ! ! ! .. Plus the fact i,m now thinking of trying to lighten up the the upperworks, i aint as strong as I once was, and three Weetabix dunna ackle for me anymore ! lol..
    Stay Safe Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Thanks Martin, Ohh Deary me, Dont know what happened there..?
    Perhaps it was finger blight on my side.
    I will try to copy and paste this, but after that i,m stumped.

    Thank you again Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ“ Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Continuing on with the forward battery tray/load compartment, and then a dry fit with the motor's, the possibility of anchoring down a battery pack with eleastic bands or cable ties ment that some sort of anchorage had to be supplyed, for the battery retaining straps/bands/cable ties.
    Then thoughts turned to the bow and the bow blocks, the original thought for the timber was Obechi, but thinking again, its a big boat and according some blurb/info i have she weigh's in at 45 lb ( urghhh, instant hernia jobber ).. And 45lb hitting a bank or pond side will make a dent and about 90% of it will be to the vessell. Found a bit of Pine, and not wanting any knots in it, cut it up to be knot free, there was an awfull lotta knots on the shed floor after this escapade. The bow blocks were built up and fitted, willy nilly order and plenty of glue soaked joints.
    Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    OK Doug thank you, just talking out aloud here.
    And whatever is at hand, but like you say Nicad is not a nice thing in these modern days.
    Thanks for the info .. Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Thanks Martin..
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    ๐Ÿ“ Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Bringing the Palm Sander into action, cleaning up the edges at the Chine and Deck's level's.
    Trying to think ahead, about Motor fuel, and what type of fuel cells will be used, I,m hoping the collection of Nimh and Ni-cads will do the job, as the motor drain is supposed to be low, but if its going to be heavy current drain then it could be Gel Cells/Sealed lead Acid Type, which are heavy, with this in mind , was looking about the hull interior, and found a cavity in front of the drive motors, thinking about the Tarpon, there was a very nice radio self fitted in her, so i worked along these lines, and started to manufacture a battery/fuel shelf, which will be removable, after the fixings have been attented to from under the front hatch cover, The drawing does not know about this little side step yet, so better keep it quiet ! The idea is for this battery tray to slide in over the top of the motors and side on on Bulkheads 2 and 3 , i think..
    As with everything in building a model boat, its all work in progress.. lol..
    Stay Safe Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ“ Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Both side skins now fitted and trimmed, I,m very glad i used the vertical grained plywood ( 1.5mm ). Just using clips to stop the " Barrelling " between formers.
    Keep safe Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Thank you, Muddy
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Many Thanks.. Muddy
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    ๐Ÿ“ Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Once all the furniture ( motors and shafts etc๐Ÿ˜Š have been located and positioned, now make a start on the side skins. I tend to use vertically grained plywood about 1.5mm or 1/16", you can form around a milk bottle without breaking into a half nelson and a double arm lock. Temporarily dry fit the skin marking out around the edges, then recut to approx size. But i wish i could practice what i preeched, not realy mu fault, gotta blame someone, the phone rang and with one of these walkabout phones tucked under ear between my collar bone i continued on, bad mistake. Glue applied and pins applyed with the help of some clamps, when it was tacked down and glue ousing out from joints realised there were parts of the skin that had not been trimmed off prior to fittment, Ohh dear I murmered, not realy, i canna print the comment, but now there is going to be a load of awkward trimming and cutting..
    Keep smiling and stay safe.. Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    OK Joe, I used Titebond 3 ? the brown one, if i,m useing brown timber, but found i liked the standard Titebond and its grabbing time, appears to do a better job, for me that is ! Keep mucky with glue and make sawdust.. Muddy ..
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    ๐Ÿ“ Lorraine 2
    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Now the motors are sorted, we hope, return to the prop end or screws, making shaft supports.
    Simply by holding a piece of 5mm ply up close to the shaft whilst resting the ply against the bottom of the hull, mark off the triangular shape. Cut out this shape and try it against the shaft tube for a good fit. If its OK, and making it a good fit, scallop out the surface that sits against the shaft, several ways of doing this, one which i generally use it to use a half round file and run it up the tube edge, you don't want a deep groove just a curved shape to help the glue to sit. My favourite way is to set the saw blade to about 1/16" deep cut, then run the shaft edge along the saw fence, moving the fence sideways about the blades width either side of centre. Then a quick sand with the paper held at an angle to the saw cuts this will give a bit of roundness to match the profile of the shaft. It makes the support ply a nice snug fit, the other thing is to shape the shaft support ply at the prop end, the theory here is to make the whole skeg into a good " Air-flow" or should i say water-flow. All the motor and shaft work to date has been dry fitted and not yet glued in situ. The next job will be cleaning up the bottom skins at the chine, and then fitting the side skins, It would prove to be a bit of a nightmare trying to fit shafts and motor alignment with the side skins in place.
    Muddy ..
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